13:16:27 RRSAgent has joined #eo 13:16:27 logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/01/31-eo-irc 13:16:29 RRSAgent, make logs world 13:16:31 Zakim, this will be 3694 13:16:31 ok, trackbot; I see WAI_EOWG()8:30AM scheduled to start in 14 minutes 13:16:32 Meeting: Education and Outreach Working Group Teleconference 13:16:32 Date: 31 January 2014 13:18:50 Chair: Shawn 13:18:54 Scribe: Sharron 13:21:00 Regrets: Vicki, Suzette (Howard and Andrew maybe) 13:24:42 Regrets+ Wayne 13:26:57 Regrets+ Helle 13:27:17 Jan has joined #eo 13:27:49 WAI_EOWG()8:30AM has now started 13:27:56 +Sharron 13:28:03 Andrew has joined #eo 13:28:27 +Shawn 13:28:47 +Jan 13:30:32 paulschantz has joined #eo 13:30:36 AnnaBelle has joined #eo 13:31:04 +PaulSchantz 13:31:06 +AnnaBelle 13:31:49 Topic: wiki update 13:32:57 Shawn: Did anyone notice that W3C systems changed the wiki. In my case, my preferences changed. It dropped me from the watch list. If you have pages on watch, you might want to look at that. Any questions about how that works? 13:33:18 ...I would encourage everyone to put pages that interest you on the watch list. 13:33:26 +Andrew 13:33:37 ...also, the visual design was a bit different. 13:34:01 Blockquote CSS is missing which is very unfortunateā€¦ 13:34:11 AnnaBelle: I noticed the change and mostly since it was unexpected, I was a bit disoriented. But now I am thinking it may actually be a bit easier to read. 13:34:30 Shawn: We may tweek the CSS 13:34:36 Paul: The text editor changed 13:34:59 Shawn: Yes, I am going to look at how to make it work a bit better for us. 13:35:10 ...let me know if anyone wants to help with that 13:35:25 Topic: EasyChecks Illustrations 13:35:32 https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Easy_Checks_-_Illustrations 13:36:00 Illustration inventory https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Easy_Checks_-_Illustrations#Illustration_inventory 13:36:14 AnnaBelle: A few things have happened in the last week. I went through all the illustrations, the text holders, and the places where we needed palce holders 13:36:35 my9pv has joined #EO 13:36:49 s/palce /place 13:36:58 ...I out all of those into the wiki. Then we had a call on Wed trying to figure out what to do next and who will do them. 13:37:33 ...Shawn will do the code, Andrew will do the captions, I will do the images other than the IE WAT images, which Vicki will do. 13:37:40 https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Easy_Checks_-_Illustrations#Strategy 13:37:41 ...we did another change to the strategies 13:38:05 +Anthony 13:38:28 ...We decided to use null alt text since all of the images are explained in the text and some will have captions if needed. Denis noted that change and agreed with it. 13:38:48 Sharron: Only want to add that AB is awesoem for leading on this 13:39:06 s/awesoem /awesome 13:39:11 Shawn: I am glad that Vicki has responded so well. She may be able to do more. 13:40:16 AnnaBelle: She is very responsive to feedback and we are working well together. Next check in with more will be MOnday or Tuesday of next week. I think they are in good shape. There is a bit of work, but it seems do-able 13:41:08 Sharron: Does tha mean that we should go ahead and plan for the usability testing at CSUN? 13:41:21 Shawn: Yes we have a place to do that in the wiki 13:41:25 Put thoughts on UT at https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/Easy_Checks#Usability_Testing 13:42:15 Shawn: And we have a couple of comments and suggested wording tweek from Eric. Andrew, you have a related action, can you get to that? 13:42:53 ...Paul, I see you added the Mac stuff here. Let's talk about that next week. 13:43:10 Paul: Yes, I was disappointed that there is so much to do 13:43:34 Shawn: Since we just got this and haven't had time to review, we will discuss next week. 13:43:44 Topic: CSUN attendence 13:43:55 Jan: Sunday OK, and Tuesday afternoon 13:44:29 Anthony: Monday, Tuesday for sure. Am trying for Sunda but not sure yet 13:44:49 Shawn: We are all very excited to meet you 13:45:10 Paul: I can't be there on Sunday either, but Monday and Tuesday are OK 13:45:30 Shawn: Shadi, Eric and I have discussed and will post a draft agenda soon 13:45:39 Topic: WCAG-EM Review 13:45:41 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-eo/2014JanMar/0022.html 13:45:54 s/post a draft agenda soon/post a draft agenda soon for EOWG discussion/ 13:47:05 Shawn: WCAG-EM WG have done some changes, we did another round of comments and they ahve changed again. As of now, they are thinking this is the final draft. After the next round of comments, they will publish as a WG Note 13:47:24 ...so this may be our last chance to comment 13:48:09 ...we do not expect many changes to this. Anthony I thought this is something that you would be good at with your background. Can you review and comment on this? 13:48:25 Anthony: Yes, I would do that 13:48:37 comments to go in https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/WCAG-EM_review 13:49:17 Shawn: Can you do this be Feb 12? 13:49:29 Anthony: Yes that is good, I can do that. 13:49:45 Shawn: Please add to your list of to do items in the wiki 13:50:02 Sharron: I am going to look at it again. 13:50:23 Shawn: ..and I will ask Helle and Sylvie 13:51:33 WCAG-EM Overview: http://www.w3.org/WAI/eval/conformance 13:51:50 s/and I will ask Helle and Sylvie/Helle and Sylvie would be good/ 13:52:09 Sharron: Are they communicating well enough the fact that it is a methodology, not a how-to. On first reading you often wish for more detail. 13:52:45 Shawn: Will update wiki page and put a place for that 13:52:49 -Andrew 13:53:27 Skype just died - I'll try and call back in asap 13:53:30 Shawn: Let's have a goal for all comments by Feb 12 so we have time to review and submit as EO 13:53:39 Topic: Other doc review 13:54:41 Shawn: The WCAG Techniques and Understanding documents...Wayne and Sylvie volunteered, I will look at that too. 13:55:13 ...next was Media Requirements, Andrew and Paul? 13:55:21 Paul: Will do today 13:55:58 Topic: UAAG Review: 13:56:00 I'll take a fresh look at that 13:56:01 https://www.w3.org/WAI/EO/wiki/UAAG_review 13:56:12 zakim, who is on the phone? 13:56:12 On the phone I see Sharron, Shawn, Jan, PaulSchantz, AnnaBelle, Anthony 13:56:50 Shawn: Thanks to Sylvie for her comments and Sharron and Andrew for their response. 13:57:32 Shawn: Did anyone else want to comment before we send those in? 13:57:44 ...if not, I will submit today. 13:59:26 +Andrew 13:59:58 Shawn: That's all on today's agenda, let's chack in with a work plan for next week. There are several documents to review, Paul and Andrew will be doing that. AnnaBelle and Vicki will be working on the illustrations. Next week or the week after we will ahve the tutorials schedule...so I propose that we close early today so people can use this time so the group participants can catch up on actions 13:59:58 and get the slate cleared for next month when we have lots to do with review tutorials 14:00:55 ...Eric has been working on the visual design for the overall tutorials. We want also to get the Images Tutorial out (several other groups want that as well) 14:01:10 ...anything else for today? 14:01:33 AnnaBelle: Just thanks to all who are helping with the illustrations 14:01:53 Shawn: It's great to have your leadership on this AB! 14:02:39 ...we will be looking at what is the next focus for the group as we wrap up EasyChecks. WAI-ACT Project includes an implementation plan, Vicki had started some work on that 14:03:06 Sharron: Timing will be good to look at various projects at CSUN 14:04:21 Shawn: Yes, when we talk as a group about the agenda, it would be useful to know who will be there at what times. Does anyone have concerns about putting who will be there on which day on the agenda? 14:06:09 ...generally F2F meetings are open to active participants, we can also use the time as an outreach effort as well. So think about whether we want to encourage participation from new members. 14:06:42 -Jan 14:06:43 -PaulSchantz 14:06:43 -AnnaBelle 14:06:45 ...so please use the time today to work on action items, thanks all. 14:06:47 -Anthony 14:06:47 Jan has left #eo 14:06:48 -Andrew 14:06:48 -Shawn 14:06:55 trackbot, end meeting 14:06:55 Zakim, list attendees 14:06:55 As of this point the attendees have been Sharron, Shawn, Jan, PaulSchantz, AnnaBelle, Andrew, Anthony 14:07:02 -Sharron 14:07:03 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 14:07:03 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/31-eo-minutes.html trackbot 14:07:03 WAI_EOWG()8:30AM has ended 14:07:03 Attendees were Sharron, Shawn, Jan, PaulSchantz, AnnaBelle, Andrew, Anthony 14:07:04 my9pv has left #eo 14:07:04 RRSAgent, bye 14:07:04 I see no action items