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14:39:24 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
14:39:24 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 21 minutes
14:39:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs Working Group Teleconference
14:39:25 <trackbot> Date: 30 January 2014
14:48:27 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2014Jan/0026.html
14:48:37 <fjh> fjh has changed the topic to: dap 3279 agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2014Jan/0026.html
14:49:04 <fjh> Regrets+ Dominique_Hazael-Massieux,
14:49:09 <fjh> Chair: Frederick_Hirsch
14:49:13 <fjh> Present+ Frederick_Hirsch
14:49:21 <fjh> ScribeNick: fjh
14:49:36 <fjh> Topic: Welcome, agenda review, scribe selection, announcements
14:49:59 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
14:49:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/30-dap-minutes.html fjh
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14:59:04 <fjh> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:59:04 <Zakim> +fjh; got it
14:59:24 <mats> Zakim, ??P3 is mats
14:59:24 <Zakim> +mats; got it
14:59:25 <fjh> zakim, ??P3 is mats
14:59:26 <Zakim> I already had ??P3 as mats, fjh
14:59:45 <fjh> Present+ Mats_Wichmann
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15:03:05 <LisaDeLuca_IBM> having trouble getting into the call
15:04:02 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2014Jan/0049.html
15:04:04 <LisaDeLuca_IBM> 3279
15:04:24 <LisaDeLuca_IBM> +1.617.761.6200
15:04:27 <fjh> fjh has changed the topic to: dap 3279 agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2014Jan/0049.html
15:06:07 <anssik> Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
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15:06:53 <anssik> zakim, ??P18 is me
15:06:53 <Zakim> +anssik; got it
15:06:56 <Zakim> +Lisa_DeLuca
15:07:38 <fjh> Present+ Lisa_DeLuca
15:07:56 <fjh> Welcome to DAP, Akira, Mikio Mitsubishi
15:07:57 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2014Jan/0037.html
15:08:11 <fjh> Topic: Minutes approval
15:08:19 <fjh> Approve minutes from 16 January 2014
15:08:20 <fjh> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2014Jan/att-0032/minutes-2014-01-16.html
15:08:26 <fjh> RESOLUTION: Minutes from  16 January 2014 are approved
15:08:36 <fjh> Topic: Network Service Discovery
15:09:04 <fjh> Overview at PING call today, agenda & call info: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2014JanMar/0009.html
15:09:04 <fjh> Review request Web Security IG:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-security/2014Jan/0012.html
15:09:04 <fjh> Review request Web App Security WG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webappsec/2014Jan/0172.html
15:09:05 <fjh> fjh: I have not heard any response to the review requests apart from PING
15:09:20 <fjh> fjh: PING call is today, if you wish to join see the link above for info
15:09:44 <fjh> fjh: need to defer this item, Rich not on call
15:10:06 <fjh> Topic: Vibration
15:10:32 <fjh> fjh: thanks Anssi for updating spec
15:10:46 <fjh> fjh: suggest we publish 4 Feb, with 3 week last call, ending 25 Feb
15:10:55 <fjh> fjh: see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2014Jan/0054.html
15:11:39 <fjh> RESOLUTION: Publish LC of Vibration on 4 Feb with end 25 Feb (3 weeks)
15:12:16 <fjh> action: anssik to prepare LC draft of Vibration with publication date 4 Feb, LC end 25 Feb, updated status, link,validity and pub rules check
15:12:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-678 - Prepare lc draft of vibration with publication date 4 feb, lc end 25 feb, updated status, link,validity and pub rules check [on Anssi Kostiainen - due 2014-02-06].
15:12:38 <fjh> action: fjh to arrange publication of Vibration LC and check process
15:12:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-679 - Arrange publication of vibration lc and check process [on Frederick Hirsch - due 2014-02-06].
15:13:04 <fjh> fjh: also, Contributing to Vibration, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2014Jan/0047.html (Michael van Ouwerkerk)
15:13:17 <fjh> Topic:  Network Information API
15:13:24 <fjh> Draft Mozilla article (Francesco)
15:13:25 <fjh> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps/Developing/gather_and_modify_data/Optimizing_for_high_and_low_network_speeds
15:13:37 <fjh> fjh: please join discussion on list
15:13:48 <fjh> Topic: Testing
15:14:00 <fjh> fjh: please share any new status on list
15:14:11 <fjh> anssik: one new volunteer for vibration
15:14:25 <fjh> … need some others to join
15:14:37 <fjh> Topic: Permissions
15:14:46 <fjh> Web API Permission review (Dom) http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2014Jan/0031.html
15:15:35 <fjh> fjh: choices seem to be asking user, implicit consent through action as we discussed in past
15:15:46 <fjh> … sys apps could have explicit permissions model, not sure of status
15:15:49 <fjh> … or doing nothing
15:15:59 <fjh> … take a look if interested, slides give a good summary
15:16:10 <fjh> Topic: Action review
15:16:26 <fjh> ACTION-523?
15:16:26 <trackbot> ACTION-523 -- Anssi Kostiainen to Work on test cases for battery, vibration, and HTML Media Capture -- due 2012-08-31 -- OPEN
15:16:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/523
15:16:45 <fjh> ACTION-666?
15:16:45 <trackbot> ACTION-666 -- Giridhar Mandyam to Check with internal implementers whether vibration api is consistent with chip capabilities -- due 2013-10-17 -- OPEN
15:16:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/666
15:17:00 <fjh> fjh: would be good to catch this before LC or during
15:17:10 <fjh> gmandyam: yes, will check
15:17:20 <fjh> close ACTION-673
15:17:20 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-673.
15:17:35 <fjh> ACTION-674?
15:17:35 <trackbot> ACTION-674 -- Frederick Hirsch to Open cfc for lc publication of vibration once ACTION-673 completed -- due 2014-01-16 -- OPEN
15:17:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/actions/674
15:17:46 <fjh> fjh: do not think we need a CfC for this update
15:18:24 <fjh> fjh: would prefer not to have a delay for an update we've agreed on the list
15:18:40 <fjh> fjh: will send notice about publications and ask for objection
15:19:04 <fjh> close ACTION-677
15:19:04 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-677.
15:19:10 <fjh> Topic: Issue review
15:19:14 <fjh> ISSUE-149?
15:19:14 <trackbot> ISSUE-149 -- handling of long vibration list - truncate or no vibration at all -- open
15:19:14 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2009/dap/track/issues/149
15:19:27 <fjh> fjh: note has now been added so this can be closed
15:19:31 <fjh> close ISSUE-149
15:19:31 <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-149.
15:19:54 <fjh> fjh: no other issues to discuss today
15:21:03 <fjh> Topic: Adjourn
15:21:06 <Zakim> -Lisa_DeLuca
15:21:08 <Zakim> -mats
15:21:08 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:21:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/30-dap-minutes.html fjh
15:21:10 <Zakim> -gmandyam
15:21:13 <Zakim> -fjh
15:26:25 <fjh> s/having trouble getting into the call//
15:26:33 <fjh> s/3279//
15:26:41 <fjh> s/ +1.617.761.6200//
15:28:03 <fjh> s/suggest we publish 4 Feb, with 3 week last call, ending 25 Feb/suggest we publish 4 Feb, with 3 week last call, ending 25 Feb (NOTE - post call decided to have 1 week CfC and publish 11 Feb with 3 week last call ending 4 March)/
15:28:26 <fjh> s/(3 weeks)/(3 weeks) - NOTE - updated to 11 Feb end 4 March/
15:29:04 <fjh> s/ask for objection/ask for objection (Note: after checking with Dom decided to have 1 week CfC)
15:29:19 <fjh> Topic: Update
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15:29:49 <fjh> fjh: after call decided to delay Vibration publication for 1 week to enable CfC, publish 11 Feb, 3 week LC end 4 March
15:29:54 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:29:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/30-dap-minutes.html fjh
15:30:41 <fjh> s/Topic: Update/Topic: Post-Call Update
15:30:45 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:30:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/30-dap-minutes.html fjh
15:30:57 <fjh> s/3279//
15:31:05 <fjh> rrsagent, generate minutes
15:31:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/30-dap-minutes.html fjh
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