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15:55:33 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
15:55:33 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see WAI_WCAG()11:00AM already started
15:55:34 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
15:55:34 <trackbot> Date: 28 January 2014
15:55:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:55:42 <Joshue> zakim, [IPcaller] is Joshue
15:55:42 <Zakim> +Joshue; got it
15:55:51 <AWK> Zakim, who is on the phone?
15:55:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see dshkolnik, Joshue
15:55:59 <Joshue> Chair: Joshue/AWK
15:56:07 <AWK> Zakim, dshkolnik is AWK
15:56:07 <Zakim> +AWK; got it
15:56:23 <AWK> Chair: Joshue
15:58:14 <AWK> Regrets: Kathleen, Kathy, Michel Fitos, Alan, Vivienne, Kerstin
16:01:00 <AWK> Zakim, who is on the phone?
16:01:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see AWK, Joshue
16:01:53 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
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16:02:54 <Zakim> +Marc_Johlic
16:03:13 <Zakim> +Sailesh
16:03:32 <Joshue> zakim, agenda?
16:03:32 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
16:03:33 <Zakim> 4. Review updated technique https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/ARIA_tech_Jan21_2014/ [from AWK]
16:03:33 <Zakim> 6. Update on choosing a scribe.  Updated list to be maintained. http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Scribe_List [from Joshue]
16:03:33 <Zakim> 7. Short, easy survey: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20140128/ [from Joshue]
16:03:33 <Zakim> 8. CSUN F2F update [from Joshue]
16:03:34 <Zakim> 9. Techniques planning for next update [from Joshue]
16:03:36 <Zakim> 10. Call for reviewers: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/default/longdesc1/longdesc.html [from Joshue]
16:03:41 <Joshue> zakim, drop item 4
16:03:42 <Zakim> agendum 4, Review updated technique https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/ARIA_tech_Jan21_2014/, dropped
16:03:46 <Joshue> zakim, agenda?
16:03:46 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
16:03:48 <Zakim> 6. Update on choosing a scribe.  Updated list to be maintained. http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Scribe_List [from Joshue]
16:03:48 <Zakim> 7. Short, easy survey: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20140128/ [from Joshue]
16:03:48 <Zakim> 8. CSUN F2F update [from Joshue]
16:03:48 <Zakim> 9. Techniques planning for next update [from Joshue]
16:03:48 <Zakim> 10. Call for reviewers: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/default/longdesc1/longdesc.html [from Joshue]
16:04:51 <Zakim> +??P38
16:05:20 <MichaelC> zakim, mute me
16:05:20 <Zakim> Michael_Cooper should now be muted
16:06:08 <Joshue> zakim, take up item 6
16:06:08 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Update on choosing a scribe.  Updated list to be maintained. http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Scribe_List" taken up [from Joshue]
16:06:33 <marcjohlic> scribe:  marcjohlic
16:06:48 <Joshue> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Scribe_List
16:06:48 <Loretta> Loretta has joined #WAI-WCAG
16:07:07 <marcjohlic> TOPIC:  Update on choosing a scribe.  Updated list to be maintained. http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Scribe_List
16:07:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:07:33 <Loretta> zakim, IPcaller is Loretta
16:07:34 <Zakim> +Loretta; got it
16:07:50 <AWK> Updated Marc's scribe count on scribe page
16:08:22 <marcjohlic> JC:  Need to distribute the load more evenly
16:08:52 <marcjohlic> JC:  Shared responsibility of being part of the Working Group
16:09:31 <marcjohlic> AWK:  List shows the current scribe count from July 1, 2013
16:09:40 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea
16:10:06 <marcjohlic> JC:  Will start taking this a bit more seriously in the group
16:11:39 <Joshue> zakim, next item
16:11:39 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Short, easy survey: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20140128/" taken up [from Joshue]
16:11:53 <AWK> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20140128/results
16:12:11 <marcjohlic> TOPIC:  Public Comment: Promote 2.4.7 from AA to A
16:14:44 <AWK> q+
16:15:21 <Joshue> ack AWK
16:15:33 <AWK> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Post_WCAG_2
16:15:51 <Joshue> zakim, mute me
16:15:51 <Zakim> Joshue should now be muted
16:16:31 <marcjohlic> q+
16:16:46 <Joshue> ack me
16:17:02 <Joshue> ack Sa
16:20:49 <Joshue> ack marc
16:22:57 <Zakim> +James_Nurthen
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16:23:28 <jamesn> rrsagent, make minutes
16:23:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/28-wai-wcag-minutes.html jamesn
16:23:59 <Joshue> agenda + Post WCAG 2 wiki
16:24:13 <AWK> Proposed resolution: The WCAG WG agrees that since WCAG 2.0 is a stable document, comments requesting changes to the normative WCAG 2.0 document can be handled by the chairs independently to notify the commenters that we will record their comments for future consideration.
16:25:03 <Joshue> zakim, queue?
16:25:03 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
16:25:26 <Joshue> +q
16:26:22 <AWK> http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/wcag2faq.html#done
16:26:40 <Joshue> ack me
16:28:07 <Joshue>  RESOLUTION: The WCAG WG agrees that since WCAG 2.0 is a stable document, comments requesting changes to the normative WCAG 2.0 document can be handled by the chairs independently to notify the commenters that we will record their comments for future consideration.
16:29:06 <Joshue> zakim, agenda?
16:29:06 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
16:29:08 <Zakim> 7. Short, easy survey: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20140128/ [from Joshue]
16:29:08 <Zakim> 8. CSUN F2F update [from Joshue]
16:29:08 <Zakim> 9. Techniques planning for next update [from Joshue]
16:29:08 <Zakim> 10. Call for reviewers: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/default/longdesc1/longdesc.html [from Joshue]
16:29:09 <Zakim> 11. Post WCAG 2 wiki [from Joshue]
16:29:17 <Joshue> zakim, take up item 11?
16:29:17 <Zakim> '11\?' does not match any agenda item, Joshue
16:29:27 <Joshue> zakim, take up item 11
16:29:27 <Zakim> agendum 11. "Post WCAG 2 wiki" taken up [from Joshue]
16:30:14 <Joshue> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Post_WCAG_2
16:32:16 <AWK> TOPIC: Public Comment: Promote 2.4.7 from AA to A
16:32:28 <AWK> RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended
16:32:44 <Joshue> zakim, take up item 8
16:32:44 <Zakim> agendum 8. "CSUN F2F update" taken up [from Joshue]
16:33:02 <marcjohlic> TOPIC:  CSUN F2F
16:33:25 <Joshue> zakim, queue?
16:33:25 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
16:33:26 <marcjohlic> AWK:  Still evolving - waiting for word on a room to use (sponsorships)
16:33:56 <jamesn> q+
16:34:12 <Joshue> ack james
16:34:28 <marcjohlic> AWK:  It looks like Tuesday might be the day.  Will send an email with updates to help folks plan travel
16:35:37 <Joshue> zakim, take up item 9
16:35:37 <Zakim> agendum 9. "Techniques planning for next update" taken up [from Joshue]
16:38:30 <marcjohlic> AWK:  Any update from ARIA/HTML5 techs group?
16:38:52 <marcjohlic> LG:  Still going through HTML5 list of techniques to identify owners
16:39:05 <marcjohlic> JN:  We are few in numbers and very resource constrained
16:39:52 <marcjohlic> LG:  Suggest that techniques that are not specifically ARIA or HTML5 techniques might go straight to WCAG WG rather than TF
16:40:15 <Joshue> +q
16:40:20 <marcjohlic> JN:  Some CSS techniques that could come from somewhere else, however resources writing them might just be folks in the TF anyway
16:40:26 <Joshue> ack me
16:40:53 <marcjohlic> JC:  Will see if we can possibly reach out to some folks at CSUN to get them into TF to help out
16:41:24 <marcjohlic> JC:  Seems work has been skewed toward ARIA - will we see techniques for HTML5?
16:41:56 <marcjohlic> JN:  Yes, expecting to work more on the first pass of HTML5 techniques now
16:42:30 <Joshue> zakim, agenda?
16:42:30 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
16:42:31 <Zakim> 7. Short, easy survey: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20140128/ [from Joshue]
16:42:31 <Zakim> 8. CSUN F2F update [from Joshue]
16:42:31 <Zakim> 9. Techniques planning for next update [from Joshue]
16:42:31 <Zakim> 10. Call for reviewers: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/default/longdesc1/longdesc.html [from Joshue]
16:42:32 <Zakim> 11. Post WCAG 2 wiki [from Joshue]
16:43:21 <marcjohlic> AWK:  Might be helpful to have volunteers to review the technique grouping we have to see if there are specific gaps
16:43:35 <Joshue> +1 to AWK
16:44:18 <AWK> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-GENERAL/
16:44:24 <marcjohlic> DM:  I could take a look and add comments if I see something missing
16:44:32 <Joshue> zakim, take up item 10
16:44:32 <Zakim> agendum 10. "Call for reviewers: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/default/longdesc1/longdesc.html" taken up [from Joshue]
16:44:53 <Zakim> -Sailesh
16:45:20 <marcjohlic> JC:  We'd like to call for reviewers for the HTML5 Image Description Extension (longdesc)
16:46:35 <marcjohlic> AWK:  Would like other eyes to review our changes to H45 and see if it's in sync with what this new one says
16:47:09 <AWK> zakim, who is on the phone?
16:47:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see AWK, Joshue, David_MacDonald, Marc_Johlic, Michael_Cooper (muted), Loretta, Katie_Haritos-Shea (muted), James_Nurthen
16:48:30 <MichaelC> ack me
16:49:44 <MichaelC> zakim, mute me
16:49:44 <Zakim> Michael_Cooper should now be muted
16:50:11 <MichaelC> ack me
16:50:15 <Joshue> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/default/longdesc1/longdesc.html
16:50:41 <marcjohlic> KATIE:  Would be happy to take a look at the document
16:52:21 <MichaelC> zakim, mute me
16:52:21 <Zakim> Michael_Cooper should now be muted
16:52:45 <Joshue> zakim, queue?
16:52:45 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
16:53:12 <Joshue> zakim, agenda?
16:53:12 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda:
16:53:13 <Zakim> 7. Short, easy survey: https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20140128/ [from Joshue]
16:53:13 <Zakim> 8. CSUN F2F update [from Joshue]
16:53:13 <Zakim> 9. Techniques planning for next update [from Joshue]
16:53:13 <Zakim> 10. Call for reviewers: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/default/longdesc1/longdesc.html [from Joshue]
16:53:14 <Zakim> 11. Post WCAG 2 wiki [from Joshue]
16:53:34 <AWK> q+
16:53:41 <Joshue> ack awk
16:54:09 <Joshue> TOPIC: Comments on the current techniques and understanding drafts
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16:55:40 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
16:55:59 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
16:56:04 <Zakim> -AWK
16:56:06 <Zakim> -Joshue
16:56:06 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
16:56:11 <Zakim> -Loretta
16:56:17 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
16:57:04 <Zakim> -Marc_Johlic
16:57:06 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()11:00AM has ended
16:57:06 <Zakim> Attendees were Joshue, AWK, David_MacDonald, Marc_Johlic, Sailesh, Michael_Cooper, Loretta, Katie_Haritos-Shea, James_Nurthen
16:58:08 <marcjohlic> rrsagent, make log world
16:58:16 <marcjohlic> rrsagent, make minutes
16:58:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/28-wai-wcag-minutes.html marcjohlic