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22:52:10 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
22:52:10 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
22:52:11 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
22:52:11 <trackbot> Date: 27 January 2014
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22:52:49 <MarkS> Meeting: Canvas Accessibility Sub-Group Teleconference
22:53:09 <MarkS> agenda?
22:53:14 <MarkS> zakim, clear agenda
22:53:14 <Zakim> agenda cleared
22:58:57 <MarkS> agenda+ Review, verify and close remaining bugs for L1 (see below)
22:58:57 <MarkS> agenda+ 23982 Focus Ring out of canvas https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23982
22:58:59 <MarkS> agenda+ 23983 Scrolling the focus into view https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23983
22:59:00 <MarkS> agenda+ 24340 Change reference to the phrases "focus ring" and "focus region" to "focus outline" https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24340
22:59:02 <MarkS> agenda+ Code Example
22:59:03 <MarkS> agenda+ Testing
22:59:03 <MarkS> agenda+ Next Meeting
22:59:24 <Zakim> WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM has now started
22:59:31 <Zakim> +MarkS
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23:02:04 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
23:02:10 <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft has me
23:02:10 <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
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23:02:57 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
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23:04:38 <Zakim> +Rich_Schwerdtfeger
23:05:19 <Zakim> +cabanier
23:06:03 <MarkS> scribe: MarkS
23:06:08 <MarkS> zakim, next item
23:06:08 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, MarkS
23:06:14 <MarkS> q?
23:06:18 <MarkS> ack pa
23:06:25 <MarkS> zakim, next item
23:06:25 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Code Example" taken up [from MarkS]
23:06:34 <MarkS> zakim, take up item 1
23:06:34 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Review, verify and close remaining bugs for L1 (see below)" taken up [from MarkS]
23:06:48 <MarkS> zakim, take up item 2
23:06:48 <Zakim> agendum 2. "23982 Focus Ring out of canvas https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23982" taken up [from MarkS]
23:08:29 <MarkS> JMunro: Seemed pretty straightforward.  I made the changes
23:09:06 <JatinderMann> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/drafts/2dcontext/html5_canvas_CR/#dom-context-2d-drawfocusifneeded
23:10:42 <MarkS> RS: not every platform may support an AAPI.  We can say "if".  Do you think we need that?
23:10:51 <MarkS> JMunro: how about if supported?
23:11:04 <JatinderMann> Revision: "The full location of the corresponding fallback element is passed to the accessibility API is supported."
23:11:13 <JatinderMann> Sorry, revision: "The full location of the corresponding fallback element is passed to the accessibility API if supported."
23:11:47 <MarkS> RS: does the clipping region include the bounds of the canvas element?
23:12:07 <MarkS> RC: is that a problem?
23:12:30 <MarkS> ...by default the clipping region is infinite
23:12:56 <MarkS> RS: somewhere we should say that its clipped to the canvas element
23:13:51 <MarkS> RC: It's implied.  shouldn't be necessary
23:14:07 <MarkS> ...this should answer Apple's question
23:14:26 <MarkS> zakim, take up item 3
23:14:26 <Zakim> agendum 3. "23983 Scrolling the focus into view https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23983" taken up [from MarkS]
23:15:09 <MarkS> RS: looks good to me
23:15:18 <MarkS> zakim, take up item 4
23:15:18 <Zakim> agendum 4. "24340 Change reference to the phrases "focus ring" and "focus region" to "focus outline" https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24340" taken up [from MarkS]
23:16:26 <MarkS> MS: looks like there are no more references to rings or regions
23:16:43 <MarkS> RS: is there a reason we have current path and event loop underlined?
23:17:12 <MarkS> JMunro: its underlined throughout the entire section. I copy/pasted it from another reference
23:17:47 <richardschwerdtfeger> The context always has a current default path. There is only one current path, it is not part of the drawing state. The current path is a path, as described above.
23:18:29 <MarkS> MS: they all have a span element
23:18:36 <MarkS> JMunro: that is a holdover from when Path object was still in there
23:18:42 <MarkS> ...I can take all of those out.
23:19:10 <MarkS> zakim, take up item 5
23:19:10 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Code Example" taken up [from MarkS]
23:20:55 <MarkS> MS: there is a code example at the bottom of this spec.  should we add an example of using drawFocusIfNeeded?
23:21:13 <MarkS> JMann: The old example wasn't working in any browser.
23:21:46 <MarkS> ...could benefit from a simpler example.
23:24:06 <MarkS> MS: Jay, if you send me the old example, I can slim it down and update it.
23:24:49 <MarkS> zakim, take up item 6
23:24:49 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Testing" taken up [from MarkS]
23:26:03 <MarkS> MS: I will list all of the testable statements this week and get started on writing tests.  will update you if I need any help.
23:26:09 <MarkS> zakim, agenda?
23:26:09 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda:
23:26:10 <Zakim> 5. Code Example [from MarkS]
23:26:10 <Zakim> 6. Testing [from MarkS]
23:26:10 <Zakim> 7. Next Meeting [from MarkS]
23:26:10 <Zakim> 2. 23982 Focus Ring out of canvas https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23982 [from MarkS]
23:26:10 <Zakim> 3. 23983 Scrolling the focus into view https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23983 [from MarkS]
23:26:10 <Zakim> 1. Review, verify and close remaining bugs for L1 (see below) [from MarkS]
23:26:25 <MarkS> zakim, close item 1
23:26:25 <Zakim> agendum 1, Review, verify and close remaining bugs for L1 (see below), closed
23:26:27 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
23:26:27 <Zakim> 5. Code Example [from MarkS]
23:26:35 <MarkS> zakim, close item 2
23:26:35 <Zakim> agendum 2, 23982 Focus Ring out of canvas https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23982, closed
23:26:37 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
23:26:37 <Zakim> 5. Code Example [from MarkS]
23:26:38 <MarkS> zakim, close item 3
23:26:39 <Zakim> agendum 3, 23983 Scrolling the focus into view https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23983, closed
23:26:39 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
23:26:39 <Zakim> 5. Code Example [from MarkS]
23:26:42 <MarkS> zakim, close item 4
23:26:42 <Zakim> agendum 4, 24340 Change reference to the phrases "focus ring" and "focus region" to "focus outline" https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24340, closed
23:26:44 <MarkS> zakim, close item 5
23:26:45 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
23:26:45 <Zakim> 5. Code Example [from MarkS]
23:26:45 <Zakim> agendum 5, Code Example, closed
23:26:45 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
23:26:45 <Zakim> 6. Testing [from MarkS]
23:26:52 <MarkS> zakim, close item 6
23:26:52 <Zakim> agendum 6, Testing, closed
23:26:53 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
23:26:53 <Zakim> 7. Next Meeting [from MarkS]
23:27:01 <MarkS> RS: how are we doing with implementations?
23:27:37 <MarkS> RC: Mozilla expressed some concerns that hit regions should be used for this.  Don't like updating AAPI with regions.  Seem like they can be convinced though.
23:28:29 <MarkS> ...another concern was if there would be a conflict when we do add hit regions.
23:28:32 <MarkS> JM: we should also ping other implementers to let them know the spec has been updated
23:28:43 <MarkS> RC: I will try to do that this week
23:29:23 <MarkS> ...Step 4 says that "Inform the user that the focus is at the location given by the path."  I think that is still a little unclear
23:29:33 <MarkS> ...there is no focus at that point.
23:29:50 <MarkS> ...maybe focus should go away there.
23:30:06 <MarkS> JMann:" inform the user of the location given by the path"
23:30:17 <JatinderMann> 4.Inform the user of the location given by the path.
23:30:28 <MarkS> JMunro: yeah sure, that makes sense
23:31:07 <MarkS> JMann: just want to add an action item to share this with everyone that should be reviewing it.
23:31:29 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
23:31:30 <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
23:31:31 <MarkS> zakim, agenda?
23:31:31 <Zakim> -cabanier
23:31:31 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
23:31:31 <Zakim> 7. Next Meeting [from MarkS]
23:31:34 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
23:31:41 <MarkS> zakim, close item 7
23:31:41 <Zakim> agendum 7, Next Meeting, closed
23:31:42 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
23:31:48 <Zakim> -MarkS
23:31:49 <Zakim> WAI_HTML AT()6:00PM has ended
23:31:49 <Zakim> Attendees were MarkS, jaymunro, [Microsoft], Rich_Schwerdtfeger, cabanier
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