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17:54:21 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see TAG_Weekly()1:00PM already started
17:54:22 <trackbot> Meeting: Technical Architecture Group Teleconference
17:54:22 <trackbot> Date: 16 January 2014
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17:55:33 <Zakim> +plinss
17:55:48 <plinss> zakim, who is on the phone?
17:55:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see dka, plinss
17:58:39 <Zakim> +??P3
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18:01:54 <Domenic__> I don't seem to have gotten the conference code
18:01:56 <annevk> Zakim, passcode?
18:01:56 <Zakim> the conference code is 0824 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), annevk
18:02:07 <Domenic__> nice trick thanks
18:02:28 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
18:02:38 <annevk> Zakim, [IP is me
18:02:38 <Zakim> +annevk; got it
18:03:13 <annevk> scribe: annevk
18:03:15 <Zakim> + +1.650.253.aaaa
18:03:17 <annevk> RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:03:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/16-tagmem-minutes.html annevk
18:03:19 <Zakim> + +1.408.355.aabb
18:03:24 <slightlyoff_> that's me
18:03:37 <annevk> RRSAgent, make logs public?
18:03:44 <annevk> RRSAgent, make logs public
18:04:15 <plinss> zakim, aabb is slightlyoff_
18:04:15 <Zakim> +slightlyoff_; got it
18:04:25 <plinss> zakim, aaaa is Domenic__
18:04:25 <Zakim> +Domenic__; got it
18:04:53 <wycats_> regrets, but I'll be back as of next week
18:05:07 <wycats_> sorry for missing so many of these after I said I'd be back... injury :(
18:05:10 <Domenic__> that seems backward? i am 408-355... not sure how all this works though
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18:06:51 <slightlyoff> congrats!
18:07:00 <annevk> Topic: Minutes
18:07:11 <annevk> PL: Any comments on the F2F minutes?
18:07:19 <annevk> PL: Anyone had a chance to review them yet?
18:07:29 <slightlyoff> I haven't reviewed them...
18:07:37 <slightlyoff> happy to approve
18:07:41 <annevk> PL: Does anyone want more time or should we just approve them as is?
18:07:52 <twirl> Approve, I think
18:08:06 <annevk> AK: Happy to approve them, had a quick look
18:08:14 <annevk> RESOLUTION: London F2F minutes approved
18:08:19 <annevk> Topic: Status
18:08:35 <annevk> AR: I have done little since I landed the weekend.
18:08:45 <annevk> AR: I plan to have my actions done by next week, as planned
18:09:15 <annevk> AK: I did some more work on URLs and revived the IDNA discussion
18:09:35 <annevk> DD: Seems to be an interesting discussion
18:09:50 <twirl> https://github.com/w3ctag/spec-reviews/blob/f362beea9bfd9b9ef657e0260b0ef38e3c4b7bcc/2013/08/Push%20API.md
18:09:57 <annevk> SK: I have a Push API review ^^
18:10:19 <annevk> SK: I think we should approve the review and resolve this issue
18:10:50 <annevk> AK: I kinda forgot how we wrapped this up during the F2F
18:10:59 <annevk> AR: I was meant to follow up
18:11:14 <annevk> AR: I'd like to see a new draft before we have a new discussion
18:11:46 <annevk> AR: And I'd like to have a collective opinion on the northbound protocol (site server to push server)
18:12:10 <annevk> PL: I recall we asked them to set up an overall architecture document with regards to the protocols and API involved
18:13:14 <annevk> PL: Anything else?
18:13:17 <slightlyoff> I don't think we should until we have a conversation about how their API might look
18:13:28 <annevk> SK: Nope
18:14:02 <annevk> AR: I think we should give them another crack at a draft and then have a discussion with them
18:14:05 <Zakim> -twirl
18:14:31 <annevk> twirl, you're not connected
18:14:56 <Zakim> +??P3
18:15:03 <annevk> PL: We agreed to work with Brian on the use of promises and service worker integration
18:15:13 <plinss> s/PL/DKA/
18:15:55 <annevk> SK: We agreed that this part regarding the Push API in the browser should not be stopped by discussion on the northbound protocol
18:16:08 <annevk> SK: and the protocol between the UA and the push server
18:16:21 <slightlyoff> wait, I thought UA/push-service was pretty clearly not in scope?
18:16:43 <annevk> slightlyoff, citation needed
18:17:00 <slightlyoff> the entire debate over their charter?
18:17:02 <annevk> (Although personally I don't care much for that part)
18:17:10 <annevk> slightlyoff, the WebApps WG charter is super broad
18:17:31 <annevk> PL: What are our next steps here?
18:17:40 <annevk> SK: There's a big question considering service workers
18:17:46 <annevk> SK: I don't know how to correctly resolve that
18:17:47 <slightlyoff> next steps: we should work with them to get a new draft in place, ASAP
18:17:57 <slightlyoff> and once they have that, we can try to identify outstanding issues
18:18:01 <slightlyoff> (like northbound sketch)
18:18:13 <Zakim> -twirl
18:18:19 <annevk> twirl, you dropped
18:18:53 <Zakim> +??P3
18:19:46 <annevk> DKA: My status update; welcome to the new members!
18:20:17 <annevk> DKA: I want to give an update on the workshop between W3C and IETF on strengthening the internet against pervasive monitoring (SPRINT?)
18:20:26 <annevk> DKA: I'm on the program committee!
18:20:42 <annevk> DKA: The deadline for submissions is Monday
18:20:51 <annevk> DKA: I'd like to put something together for tomorrow
18:21:19 <slightlyoff> seems I've dropped off
18:21:28 <Zakim> -Domenic__
18:21:36 <annevk> DKA: If people could think of technologies that help strengthen web security that'd be useful for the workshop
18:21:39 <slightlyoff> still watching here
18:21:48 <annevk> DKA: In particular, slightlyoff, if you could help me with that in the next few days that'd be great
18:21:54 <slightlyoff> yes, I can
18:22:16 <annevk> DKA: I'm going to use the document we have in GitHub tomorrow and fill it out further
18:22:45 <Zakim> -dka
18:22:50 <annevk> PL: If you can let us know on when there's an update ready that'd be great
18:22:53 <annevk> DKA: will do
18:23:25 <slightlyoff> sounds good
18:23:30 <plinss> https://github.com/w3ctag/secure-the-web
18:24:27 <annevk> DD: I want to update the promises guide document this weekend and have it ready for review by Tuesday
18:24:49 <annevk> RRSAgent, draft minutes
18:24:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/16-tagmem-minutes.html annevk
18:25:18 <Zakim> -twirl
18:25:19 <Zakim> -annevk
18:25:21 <Zakim> -slightlyoff_
18:25:25 <Zakim> -plinss
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18:25:26 <Zakim> Attendees were dka, plinss, twirl, [IPcaller], annevk, +1.650.253.aaaa, +1.408.355.aabb, slightlyoff_, Domenic__
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18:31:48 <Zakim> Attendees were
18:33:16 <annevk> Zakim, dude, go away
18:33:16 <Zakim> I don't understand 'dude, go away', annevk
18:33:19 <annevk> Zakim, bye
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18:33:26 <annevk> RRSAgent, bye
18:33:26 <RRSAgent> I see no action items