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17:01:35 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
17:01:35 <trackbot> Date: 09 January 2014
17:01:46 <paulc> zakim, what is the code?
17:01:46 <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), paulc
17:01:48 <Zakim> -??P7
17:01:57 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
17:02:09 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
17:02:20 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
17:02:20 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
17:02:29 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
17:02:34 <Eliot> Zakim, Microsoft.a has me
17:02:34 <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
17:02:38 <paulc> Happy New Year.
17:02:47 <Eliot> and you!
17:02:50 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
17:03:00 <jaymunro> zakim, microsoft.aa has me
17:03:00 <Zakim> +jaymunro; got it
17:03:10 <Zakim> +Sam
17:03:12 <paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JanMar/0000.html
17:03:37 <Zakim> +Sam.a
17:03:57 <Zakim> +??P5
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17:04:17 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
17:04:17 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
17:04:19 <Zakim> +Mike
17:04:23 <paulc> zakim, who is on the phone?
17:04:23 <Zakim> On the phone I see Daniel_Austin, [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], [Microsoft.aa], Sam, Sam.a, ??P5, Mike (muted)
17:04:25 <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has Eliot
17:04:25 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
17:04:25 <Zakim> [Microsoft.aa] has jaymunro
17:04:37 <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2014JanMar/0000.html
17:04:57 <rubys> scribe: rubys
17:05:07 <rubys> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, January 9
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17:05:14 <rubys> ACTION-229?
17:05:14 <trackbot> ACTION-229 -- Paul Cotton to Check the status of the authoring spec -- due 2013-12-19 -- OPEN
17:05:14 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/229
17:05:26 <Zakim> +??P4
17:05:32 <janina> zakim, ??P4 is me
17:05:32 <Zakim> +janina; got it
17:05:33 <rubys> Status: See discussion at:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2014Jan/0011.html
17:05:33 <paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2014Jan/0011.html
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17:06:13 <Zakim> +Plh
17:06:54 <rubys> close action-229
17:06:54 <trackbot> Closed action-229.
17:07:43 <rubys> paulc: robin implemented in 5.1; stevef started a thread; eventually we wanted it implemented in 5.0
17:08:11 <rubys> paulc: the only remaining question is whether (and when) it will be done in 5.0
17:08:23 <rubys> plh: this won't be top of Robin's list for the near term
17:08:30 <rubys> paulc: that's fine; action is still done
17:08:47 <rubys> topic: Upcoming Publications
17:08:56 <rubys> a) Transition Request: Candidate Recommendation of HTML Media Source Extensions (MSE)  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2013OctDec/0304.html [Member-only link]  Status: Director's decision and publication is pending.
17:09:13 <rubys> plh: it is expected to be published today
17:09:28 <rubys> mikeSmith: it will be out shortly after this call
17:09:41 <rubys> b) Publishing Ruby spec as a WG Note  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2014Jan/0024.html  Status: Awaiting plan from Editors.
17:10:08 <paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2014Jan/0028.html
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17:11:04 <rubys> paulc: Robin is working on a larger change to 5.0, and will fold in Ruby at that time; once complete we will do a CfC to publish Ruby as a note
17:12:26 <rubys> paulc: this work was originally published as a separate note (under the CC-BY license), and now has been folded into 5.1.  The existing draft needs to be published as a Note with a note indicating that it has been folded into the HTML5 spec.
17:12:39 <rubys> c) WG Decision on Polyglot Note vs Recommendation Track  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Dec/0025.html  Status: Editors are preparing a revised Last Call WD. ETA Thu Jan 16 with publication of LC in Feb.
17:13:19 <rubys> Eliot: we are on schedule
17:13:39 <rubys> e) A11Y TF Call for Consensus: longdesc stand-alone spec  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Dec/0077.html  Status: The A11Y TF CfC closed on Dec 31.
17:14:28 <rubys> paulc: the TF decided on a stand-alone spec; they plan to skip CR based on existing interoperability status
17:15:02 <rubys> paulc: this is an example of an extension spec that is heading directly to Recommendation
17:15:09 <rubys> d) Canvas 2D revised Candidate Recommendation or Last Call  See:  Minutes: Canvas Accessibility Sub Group Teleconference, 6 January 2014  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Jan/0006.html  Status: Sub-Group is targeting later in January for completion of review of outstanding CR bugs.
17:16:32 <rubys> Paulc: the plan is to return to LC; given wide interoperability status (except for focus ring) skipping CR may be a possibility
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17:17:07 <plh> q+
17:17:10 <rubys> paulc: if we did a minimum 3 week LC, we could go into CR (or PR) in March
17:17:15 <rubys> ack next
17:17:40 <rubys> plh: I did some tests for focus ring
17:17:59 <rubys> paulc: can you send me a link?
17:18:12 <rubys> plh: I'll put the link in the minutes
17:18:43 <rubys> paulc: the chairs are discussing heartbeats...
17:18:52 <rubys> 3. Outstanding HTML5 CR bugs  http://tinyurl.com/le59ctq
17:19:06 <plh> --> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2013Dec/0011.html systemfocusring tests
17:19:08 <rubys> rubys has changed the topic to: Outstanding HTML5 CR bugs
17:19:16 <rubys> topic Outstanding HTML5 CR bugs
17:19:42 <rubys> paulc: the list was 11 an hour ago, now is down to 10; it was ~480 when we established the new editorial team
17:20:21 <rubys> paulc: working with the various editors on these (mentions a list of actions and bug numbers)
17:20:35 <rubys> action-234?
17:20:35 <trackbot> action-234 -- Steve Faulkner to Resolve bug 21579 and will provide spec text https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=21579 -- due 2013-11-21 -- OPEN
17:20:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/234
17:20:39 <rubys> action-235?
17:20:39 <trackbot> action-235 -- Edward O'Connor to Resolve 19728 https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=19728 -- due 2013-11-21 -- OPEN
17:20:39 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/235
17:20:42 <rubys> action-236?
17:20:42 <trackbot> action-236 -- Erika Doyle Navara to Resolve bug https://www.w3.org/bugs/public/show_bug.cgi?id=23208 as discussed -- due 2013-11-21 -- CLOSED
17:20:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/236
17:21:02 <rubys> paulc: action-236 is done, 234 and 235 are ongoing
17:21:09 <rubys> d) Other A11Y -related CR bugs  http://www.w3.org/2013/12/12-html-a11y-minutes.html#item08  Status: A11Y TF and PF WG are working on several CR bugs.
17:21:39 <rubys> paulc: I believe that every one of the CR bugs have somebody assigned; hopefully the number will be at or close to zero by the end of the month
17:21:56 <rubys> topic Other Business
17:22:03 <rubys> action-237?
17:22:03 <trackbot> action-237 -- Robin Berjon to Give us a revised overview of testing document - in 4 weeks -- due 2013-12-16 -- CLOSED
17:22:03 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/237
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17:22:20 <paulc> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tests-cr-exit/
17:22:29 <rubys> paulc: Robin sent out an email; don't believe there were any responses
17:22:56 <rubys> paulc: next action would be for the chairs to issue a CfC
17:23:26 <rubys> paulc: I put this on the agenda to get people to look at it
17:23:34 <MikeSmith> q+ to discuss HTML WG f2f meeting plans for this Spring
17:23:40 <rubys> paulc: there have been major editorial changes
17:24:30 <Zakim> +??P3
17:24:40 <tantek> Zakim, ??P3 is tantek
17:24:40 <Zakim> +tantek; got it
17:24:48 <rubys> janina: there is an annual conference on A11y in March; it helps as a deadline for work
17:25:09 <rubys> janina: out goal is to publish longdesc no later than March 18th (the conference starts on the 19th)
17:26:03 <rubys> paulc: on the "alt" material, are there particular CR bugs related to that?
17:26:19 <rubys> janina: there is at least one bug, possibly a few more
17:26:28 <rubys> paulc: 21579 is possibly one
17:26:31 <paulc> Alt CR bugs; https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21579
17:27:19 <rubys> paulc: it would be great to also include a republished Canvas draft by that deadline (as well as HTML5 to zero bugs)
17:27:23 <rubys> ack next
17:27:23 <paulc> ack Mike
17:27:24 <Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to discuss HTML WG f2f meeting plans for this Spring
17:28:00 <rubys> MikeSmith: we had some discussion (including at TPAC) to have another F2F; last year was hosted by eBay in San Jose
17:28:49 <rubys> MikeSmith: I've been helping making plans for this spring; the best time and place would be April 9-10 in the Silicon Valley area (depending on host)
17:29:25 <rubys> MikeSmith: this date is based on collocating the week after the W3C TAG and related meetings.
17:30:02 <rubys> Paulc: the challenge is picking the host that can meet that date; I assume you (Mike) are reaching out...
17:30:27 <rubys> MikeSmith: PLH and I are working on this (as well as other meetings)
17:30:39 <rubys> paulc: questions?
17:30:39 <plh> q+
17:31:06 <rubys> daniel: we have a standing offer to host, will need to check that specific date
17:31:14 <paulc> ack plh