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13:30:12 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 3794
13:30:12 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM scheduled to start now
13:30:13 <trackbot> Meeting: Evaluation and Repair Tools Working Group Teleconference
13:30:13 <trackbot> Date: 08 January 2014
13:30:36 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has now started
13:30:37 <Zakim> +Shadi
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13:34:19 <samuelm> Zakim, ??P12 is me
13:34:19 <Zakim> +samuelm; got it
13:35:17 <shadi> agenda+ Status of WCAG-EM
13:35:40 <shadi> agenda+ Discussion of draft AERT (working title)
13:36:02 <shadi> zakim, take up agendum 1
13:36:02 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Status of WCAG-EM" taken up [from shadi]
13:37:12 <shadi> latest Editor Draft is always here: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/methodology/
13:37:20 <shadi> scribe: shadi
13:38:08 <shadi> Eval TF still addressing comments on the previous Editor Draft
13:38:33 <shadi> ...expect to come back to ask for approval for publication next week or the week after
13:38:40 <shadi> zakim, take up next
13:38:47 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Discussion of draft AERT (working title)" taken up [from shadi]
13:39:17 <shadi> latest Editor Draft is always here: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/WD-AERT/ED-AERT
13:42:35 <shadi> SAZ: looking much better, thanks for your work on it!
13:43:16 <shadi> ...but need to wrap it up by August, so need to assign much more time to it in the next period
13:43:31 <shadi> CV: worked more on clarifying the abstract and framing
13:47:41 <shadi> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wai-ert/2014Jan/0002.html
13:49:05 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-EM/#audience
13:51:35 <shadi> SAZ: on Samuel's first comment, in WCAG-EM for example we moved towards listing "purposes" rather than "audiences"
13:51:38 <shadi> CV: think request was from Samuel
13:52:06 <shadi> SM: yes, did suggest that but agree to going towards tasks rather than roles
13:53:22 <shadi> ...my point relates to the fact that we say the document can be used for selection purposes and procurers seem important
13:53:40 <shadi> ...but can still organize by task rather than by role
13:55:30 <shadi> SAZ: might also be better to separate "audience"/"purpose" from "scope"
13:59:47 <shadi> RESOLUTION: change "audience" approach to "purpose" or "task"-based approach, and separate from "scope"
14:00:39 <shadi> CV: partially agree with Samuel's second comment
14:02:08 <shadi> ...think technically possible but not seen use of SAX
14:03:11 <shadi> SM: proposing to use XML parsed entities as a more generic term to cover DOM, SAX, and others
14:04:00 <shadi> CV: XML parsed entities is a subset of DOM
14:04:13 <shadi> ...DOM also not necessarily restricted to DOM
14:04:32 <shadi> s/DOM also not necessarily restricted to DOM/DOM also not necessarily restricted to XML
14:04:38 <shadi> SM: can live with DOM
14:06:55 <shadi> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/WD-AERT/ED-AERT20131202#fragments
14:07:23 <shadi> [[To test such resources, the tool should generate a DOM document fragment]]
14:11:11 <shadi> -> [[To assess such document fragments, evaluation tools need to be able to process document fragments to test them]]
14:13:36 <shadi> -> [[Evaluation tools need to be able to process document fragments. Usually this is done by creating a DOM tree from the document fragment that is then tested.]]
14:15:41 <shadi> -> [[Evaluation tools need to be able to process document fragments. Usually this is done by creating a DOM fragment from the document fragment that is then tested.]]
14:16:40 <carlos> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/DocumentFragment
14:17:37 <carlos> http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-Core/core.html#ID-B63ED1A3
14:26:46 <shadi> [[Nowadays, it is typical in Content Management Systems the generation of fragments of HTML documents that are aggregated into templates to generate a website]] -> [[Many websites are generated dynamically by combining templates with snippets of code that are created by website authors. Some evaluation tools can be integrated into CMS and IDE tools to check these snippets as website authors create them. Usually this is done by creating DOM document fragments from the
14:26:46 <shadi> se snippets.]]
14:27:41 <shadi> [[Some tools are able to filter the accessibility tests according to their relevance to the document fragment]]
14:32:27 <Zakim> -??P10
14:32:29 <Zakim> -Shadi
14:32:30 <Zakim> -samuelm
14:32:30 <Zakim> WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM has ended
14:32:31 <Zakim> Attendees were Shadi, samuelm
14:33:09 <shadi> trackbot, end meeting
14:33:09 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
14:33:09 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
14:33:17 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
14:33:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/08-er-minutes.html trackbot
14:33:18 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
14:33:18 <RRSAgent> I see no action items