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14:57:45 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_PF
14:57:45 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see WAI_PFWG(ARIA)10:00AM already started
14:57:46 <trackbot> Meeting: Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
14:57:46 <trackbot> Date: 06 January 2014
14:57:52 <richardschwerdtfeger> chair: Rich
14:57:59 <richardschwerdtfeger> meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus
14:58:51 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Jan/0000.html
14:59:07 <richardschwerdtfeger> Happy New Year
14:59:21 <Zakim> +??P1
14:59:58 <janina> zakim, ??P1 is me
14:59:59 <Zakim> +janina; got it
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15:07:39 <Zakim> +??P14
15:07:44 <Zakim> +James_Craig
15:07:55 <MichaelC> zakim, ??p14 is Michael_Cooper
15:07:55 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper; got it
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15:09:20 <Zakim> -James_Craig
15:09:58 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
15:10:06 <clown> zakim GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:10:16 <clown> zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:10:16 <Zakim> sorry, clown, I do not see a party named 'Joseph_Scheuhammer'
15:10:27 <Zakim> +Matt_King
15:11:26 <clown> zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:11:26 <Zakim> sorry, clown, I do not see a party named 'Joseph_Scheuhammer'
15:11:37 <clown> zakim, who's here?
15:11:37 <Zakim> On the phone I see Rich_Schwerdtfeger, janina, Michael_Cooper, [GVoice], Matt_King
15:11:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see clown, jcraig, Suzanne, Zakim, RRSAgent, MichaelC, richardschwerdtfeger, asurkov, scott_gonzalez, janina, slightlyoff, trackbot
15:11:53 <MichaelC> zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:11:53 <Zakim> +Joseph_Scheuhammer; got it
15:11:54 <clown> zakim, GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:11:55 <Zakim> sorry, clown, I do not recognize a party named 'GVoice'
15:12:04 <clown> zakim, I am Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:12:04 <Zakim> ok, clown, I now associate you with Joseph_Scheuhammer
15:12:13 <clown> scribenick:  clown
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15:12:20 <richardschwerdtfeger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Jan/0000.html
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15:12:45 <clown> Topic:  advancing to PR
15:12:59 <clown> RS:  the only thing that is keeping us from PR is the menu events.
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15:13:39 <clown> RS: James reported that generating the events in Safari may take longer.
15:13:49 <clown> RS:  we might need to make this a MAY
15:14:16 <clown> JS:  it is a SHOULD.  The MUST comes in *if* the browser uses the events.  Then they *MUST* be as follows.
15:14:24 <clown> Topic:  Face to Face
15:14:35 <clown> Janina:  Can you come Matt?
15:15:00 <clown> MK:  No, I cannot make it.  WIll there be a network participation?
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15:15:30 <clown> Janina:  We will have something set up.
15:15:56 <clown> Janina:  and, we should also try to have some social event.
15:16:20 <clown> Janina:  and if there is another topic you want to discuss, pleas bring it up so we can add it to the agenda.
15:16:23 <MichaelC> -> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/meetings/2014-01-ftf PF FtF Jan 2014
15:16:51 <clown> RS:  let's not discuss ARIA 1.1 issues.  We don't have a quorum.
15:17:58 <clown> Various:  discussion of who may come to the face-to-face and who may not.
15:18:19 <richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/1
15:18:23 <clown> RS:  we should go through open issues and actions for ARIA 1.0
15:18:40 <clown> Topic:  action 358
15:18:49 <clown> action-358?
15:18:49 <trackbot> action-358 -- Michael Cooper to - investigate modification of schema to address default values for particular roles -- due 2012-04-30 -- OPEN
15:18:49 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/358
15:19:03 <clown> MC:  I don't think this is critical for going to REC.
15:19:11 <clown> MC:  I thought Shane has an action to work on this.
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15:19:30 <clown> RS:  Do we need for ARIA 1.0 for going to rec?
15:19:36 <clown> MC:  No, I don't think so.
15:19:56 <clown> MC:  I just need the proper DTD lingo for this.
15:20:05 <clown> MC:  Let's move it to 1.1.
15:20:36 <clown> MC:  next action  601 is shane's action; so these are linked.  Move them both.
15:20:41 <Zakim> +Jon_Gunderson
15:20:59 <JonGund> It is cold here
15:22:59 <clown> Topic:  action-691
15:23:03 <clown> action-691?
15:23:03 <trackbot> action-691 -- Michael Cooper to Propose an approach for adding ARIA landmarks to the specs and work with editors -- due 2012-11-23 -- OPEN
15:23:03 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/691
15:23:14 <clown> MC:  Next actions are on me.
15:23:29 <clown> MC:  It's a nice to have, not a must, but it would be really good to do.
15:23:35 <clown> RS:  Let's give it a date then.
15:23:55 <clown> MC: I should tackle by 22 January.
15:24:06 <clown> JS:  All the documents?
15:24:15 <clown> MC:  Yes, I'll try to do it in the generator.
15:24:25 <clown> Topic:  FIx up generation of tables.
15:24:42 <clown> MC:  I think those three actions should have a due date of 22 Jan.
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15:25:07 <clown> MC:  actions 1011, 1062, 1065
15:25:19 <clown> Topic:  Action-1151
15:25:23 <clown> action-1151?
15:25:23 <trackbot> action-1151 -- Michael Cooper to Create a flowchart or process diagram of the ARIA accessible name computation -- due 2013-01-28 -- OPEN
15:25:23 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1151
15:25:41 <clown> MC:  I don't think it's critical, but it is challenging.
15:25:50 <clown> MC:  I think it's better to focus this on 1.1.
15:26:21 <clown> RS:  Yes, that can wait.  It would nice to have.
15:26:52 <clown> s/would nice to/would be nice to/
15:29:27 <clown> JS:  It would nice, if the computattion is language specific (Html, SVG), then generate the flow chart as we change the spec.
15:29:45 <clown> MC:  we do want this to be backward compatibility.
15:30:06 <clown> RS:  But, we could say that the 1.0 algorithm is for, say, html 4.
15:30:17 <clown> RS:  that's bascially all of the actions/issues.
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15:31:09 <clown> RS:  anything for the UAIG?
15:31:19 <clown> JS:  Let's look at the issue/actions.
15:31:23 <clown> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/10
15:31:29 <clown> JS:  There are zero.
15:32:11 <clown> MC:  Yes, we tried to close all the UAIG issue/actions during the last weeks before the break.
15:32:34 <clown> s/computattion/computation/
15:36:52 <clown> RS:  we will meet next week.
15:37:31 <clown> RS:  there is Martin Luther KIng day here in the states.
15:37:38 <clown> RS:  But I will be working.
15:37:42 <Zakim> -Rich_Schwerdtfeger
15:37:45 <Zakim> -janina
15:37:47 <clown> JS:  It isn'at a holiday here in Canada.
15:37:47 <Zakim> -Jon_Gunderson
15:37:48 <Zakim> -Matt_King
15:37:53 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
15:38:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/06-pf-minutes.html clown
15:38:37 <clown> tracbot, make minutes public
15:38:50 <trackbot> Sorry, clown, I don't understand 'trackbot, make minutes public'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
15:39:52 <trackbot> Sorry, clown, I don't understand 'trackbot, make log public'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
15:41:10 <trackbot> Sorry, clown, I don't understand 'trackbot, set logs public'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
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15:42:20 <clown> zakim, bye
15:42:20 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Rich_Schwerdtfeger, janina, James_Craig, Michael_Cooper, Matt_King, Joseph_Scheuhammer, Jon_Gunderson
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15:42:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/06-pf-minutes.html clown
15:43:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/06-pf-minutes.html clown
15:44:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/06-pf-minutes.html clown
15:44:34 <clown> s/isn'at a holiday/isn't a holiday/
15:44:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2014/01/06-pf-minutes.html clown
15:49:35 <clown> RRSAgent:  please part
15:49:35 <RRSAgent> I see no action items