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13:42:09 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2
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13:42:09 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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13:42:10 <trackbot> Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference
13:42:10 <trackbot> Date: 29 April 2009
13:42:28 <Roland> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Apr/0052.html
13:42:33 <Roland> Chair: Roland
13:45:14 <mgylling> I will only be in IRC today, on another concurrent call
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13:45:41 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has now started
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13:45:48 <Zakim> +Roland_Merrick
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13:46:04 <Roland> Zakim, Roland_Merrick is Roland
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13:46:04 <Zakim> +Roland; got it
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13:47:41 <Zakim> +McCarron
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13:48:38 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is here? ←
13:48:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see Roland, McCarron
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Roland, McCarron ←
13:48:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see Steven, ShaneM, Zakim, RRSAgent, Roland, mgylling, Tina, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Steven, ShaneM, Zakim, RRSAgent, Roland, mgylling, Tina, trackbot ←
13:49:35 <Steven> zakim, dial stevgen-617
Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial stevgen-617 ←
13:49:35 <Zakim> I am sorry, Steven; I do not know a number for stevgen-617
Zakim IRC Bot: I am sorry, Steven; I do not know a number for stevgen-617 ←
13:49:43 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
13:49:43 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made ←
13:49:44 <Zakim> +Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven ←
13:51:31 <Steven> scribe: Steven
(Scribe set to Steven Pemberton)
13:51:40 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
13:51:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
13:52:04 <Steven> Regrets: Alessio
13:55:24 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita
Zakim IRC Bot: +Gregory_Rosmaita ←
13:55:48 <Steven> Topic: Role transition
13:56:03 <Steven> Steven: The transition of role was OK'd yesterday
Steven Pemberton: The transition of role was OK'd yesterday ←
13:56:16 <Steven> ... for some reason it didn't get copied to chairs or XHTML2
... for some reason it didn't get copied to chairs or XHTML2 ←
13:56:27 <Steven> ... I'll check with Ralph
... I'll check with Ralph ←
13:57:26 <Steven> ... but I assume we can just proceed
... but I assume we can just proceed ←
13:57:50 <Steven> Topic: 4 PERs
13:58:20 <Steven> Steven: The draft transition announcement has been sent to Comm, and I am waiting for a definitive date, so that we can update the SOTD
Steven Pemberton: The draft transition announcement has been sent to Comm, and I am waiting for a definitive date, so that we can update the SOTD ←
13:59:48 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to advance role module to CR
ACTION: Steven to advance role module to CR ←
13:59:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-80 - Advance role module to CR [on Steven Pemberton - due 2009-05-06].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-80 - Advance role module to CR [on Steven Pemberton - due 2009-05-06]. ←
14:00:04 <Steven> ACTION-80 due one week later
ACTION-80 due one week later ←
14:00:04 <trackbot> ACTION-80 Advance role module to CR due date now one week later
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-80 Advance role module to CR due date now one week later ←
14:00:52 <Steven> Topic: Examples on Wiki
14:01:11 <Steven> Gregory: I have been putting examples on the wiki, and it seems like it should be organised by module
Gregory Rosmaita: I have been putting examples on the wiki, and it seems like it should be organised by module ←
14:01:51 <Steven> ... just to let people know that I have been setting up this way
... just to let people know that I have been setting up this way ←
14:03:05 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/XHTML2/i18n
Shane McCarron: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml2/wiki/XHTML2/i18n ←
14:06:06 <Steven> Steven: You use Unicode characters instead of the real characters
Steven Pemberton: You use Unicode characters instead of the real characters ←
14:06:26 <Steven> Gregory: I prefer it that way for my accessibility software
Gregory Rosmaita: I prefer it that way for my accessibility software ←
14:06:54 <Steven> Steven: You don't need to have separate URLs for the different press releases; that's the point of hreflang (or one of them at least)
Steven Pemberton: You don't need to have separate URLs for the different press releases; that's the point of hreflang (or one of them at least) ←
14:07:45 <Steven> Topic: Actions
14:07:58 <Roland> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/pendingreview
Roland Merrick: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/pendingreview ←
14:08:15 <Steven> ACTION-42 closed
14:08:15 <trackbot> ACTION-42 Request CR for role closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-42 Request CR for role closed ←
14:08:30 <Steven> Roland: Action 42 closed
Roland Merrick: ACTION-42 closed ←
14:08:44 <Steven> Steven: I've just given myself the action to progress it to the next stage
Steven Pemberton: I've just given myself the action to progress it to the next stage ←
14:08:58 <Steven> Roland: Action 47
14:10:53 <Steven> Steven: Addison OKd this
Steven Pemberton: Addison OKd this ←
14:11:03 <Steven> action-47 closed
14:11:03 <trackbot> ACTION-47 Reply to Addison with a request for a new attribute name. closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-47 Reply to Addison with a request for a new attribute name. closed ←
14:11:50 <Steven> Roland: @ for you Gregory, 58 and 59
Roland Merrick: @ for you Gregory, 58 and 59 ←
14:12:58 <Steven> Gregory: Action is done
Gregory Rosmaita: Action is done ←
14:13:06 <Steven> Roland: We will put it on a future agenda
Roland Merrick: We will put it on a future agenda ←
14:13:36 <Steven> ... put them on the agenda for the future vftf
... put them on the agenda for the future vftf ←
14:15:15 <Steven> Roland: We'll close both then
Roland Merrick: We'll close both then ←
14:16:53 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:16:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
14:17:34 <Steven> Roland: We need to close and reopen action 31, since we decided to take Access back to last call
Roland Merrick: We need to close and reopen ACTION-31, since we decided to take Access back to last call ←
14:18:30 <Steven> ACTION was - Steven to propose a rephrasing of the about attribute inheritance
ACTION was - Steven to propose a rephrasing of the about attribute inheritance ←
14:18:30 <Steven> rules.
rules. ←
14:18:30 <Steven> [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-html-minutes.html#action05]
[recorded in ACTION-05]">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/04-html-minutes.html#ACTION-05] ←
14:18:42 <Steven> Steven: That's all been done in RDFa
Steven Pemberton: That's all been done in RDFa ←
14:18:50 <Steven> ... we only have to refer to that
... we only have to refer to that ←
14:20:32 <Steven> ACTION was - ShaneM - break Issues 7659 and 7656 into individual issues so can
ACTION was - ShaneM - break Issues 7659 and 7656 into individual issues so can ←
14:20:32 <Steven> be addressed
be addressed ←
14:20:32 <Steven> [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/06/19-xhtml-minutes.html#action12]
[recorded in ACTION-12]">http://www.w3.org/2008/06/19-xhtml-minutes.html#ACTION-12] ←
14:20:39 <Steven> ACTION-64 done
14:20:41 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-curie-20090422/
Shane McCarron: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/ED-curie-20090422/ ←
14:20:46 <Steven> Shane: Action 64 is done
Shane McCarron: ACTION-64 is done ←
14:20:54 <Steven> ACTION-64 closed
14:20:54 <trackbot> ACTION-64 Change CURIE spec to make the prefix mechanism the responsibility of the host language closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-64 Change CURIE spec to make the prefix mechanism the responsibility of the host language closed ←
14:21:30 <Steven> shane: I'm still on action 73; the RDF is tricky, but I'll have it done today
Shane McCarron: I'm still on ACTION-73; the RDF is tricky, but I'll have it done today ←
14:21:38 <Steven> Roland: Talking of CURIEs
Roland Merrick: Talking of CURIEs ←
14:21:48 <Steven> ... there was the guy who wasn't happy
... there was the guy who wasn't happy ←
14:22:07 <Steven> ... did we talk to the other RDFa people about sending a comment to OWL?
... did we talk to the other RDFa people about sending a comment to OWL? ←
14:22:45 <Steven> Shane: I sent a request, didn't hear anything back
Shane McCarron: I sent a request, didn't hear anything back ←
14:23:00 <Steven> Steven: Is there a call tomorrow?
Steven Pemberton: Is there a call tomorrow? ←
14:23:02 <Steven> Shane: No
Shane McCarron: No ←
14:23:09 <Steven> Steven: When are the comments due
Steven Pemberton: When are the comments due ←
14:23:20 <Steven> Shane: Sometime yet; only started last week
Shane McCarron: Sometime yet; only started last week ←
14:24:27 <Steven> Shane: Oh yes, there is a call this week
Shane McCarron: Oh yes, there is a call this week ←
14:24:38 <Steven> ... I will be on it
... I will be on it ←
14:25:16 <Steven> Topic: Three missing elements in B. Element prohibitions
14:25:21 <Roland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009AprJun/0010.html
Roland Merrick: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009AprJun/0010.html ←
14:28:24 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009AprJun/0010.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009AprJun/0010.html ←
14:28:38 <Steven> <!ENTITY % a.content
<!ENTITY % a.content ←
14:28:38 <Steven> "(#PCDATA | %special; | %fontstyle; | %phrase; | %inline.forms; | %misc.inline;)*">
"(#PCDATA | %special; | %fontstyle; | %phrase; | %inline.forms; | %misc.inline;)*"> ←
14:28:38 <Steven>
14:28:38 <Steven> <!-- pre uses %Inline excluding img, object, applet, big, small,
<!-- pre uses %Inline excluding img, object, applet, big, small, ←
14:28:38 <Steven> font, or basefont -->
font, or basefont --> ←
14:28:38 <Steven>
14:28:40 <Steven> <!ENTITY % pre.content
<!ENTITY % pre.content ←
14:28:43 <Steven> "(#PCDATA | a | %special.basic; | %fontstyle.basic; | %phrase.basic; |
"(#PCDATA | a | %special.basic; | %fontstyle.basic; | %phrase.basic; | ←
14:28:44 <Steven> %inline.forms; | %misc.inline;)*">
%inline.forms; | %misc.inline;)*"> ←
14:31:03 <Steven> Steven: I have never understood this restriction
Steven Pemberton: I have never understood this restriction ←
14:31:56 <Steven> ... I think of pre as keeping whitespace and newlines, and using a fixed width font
... I think of pre as keeping whitespace and newlines, and using a fixed width font ←
14:32:43 <Steven> ... I'm pretty sure that XHTML2 doesn't have this restriction
... I'm pretty sure that XHTML2 doesn't have this restriction ←
14:32:53 <Steven> ... but that's not to the point of this person's comment
... but that's not to the point of this person's comment ←
14:32:59 <Steven> ... which looks like it is right
... which looks like it is right ←
14:33:06 <Steven> ... that the DTD and the text disagree
... that the DTD and the text disagree ←
14:34:27 <Steven> Steven: HTML4 says this - <!ENTITY % pre.exclusion "IMG|OBJECT|BIG|SMALL|SUB|SUP">
Steven Pemberton: HTML4 says this - <!ENTITY % pre.exclusion "IMG|OBJECT|BIG|SMALL|SUB|SUP"> ←
14:34:49 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/sgml/dtd.html#pre.exclusion
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/sgml/dtd.html#pre.exclusion ←
14:36:37 <Steven> Shane; Let's add it to the text, as a clarification
Shane; Let's add it to the text, as a clarification ←
14:36:50 <Steven> ... the DTD is correct
... the DTD is correct ←
14:36:59 <Steven> ... the text only refers to the strict version
... the text only refers to the strict version ←
14:38:31 <Steven> Steven: I have already asked for the transition, so I feel a bit shaky about making this change now
Steven Pemberton: I have already asked for the transition, so I feel a bit shaky about making this change now ←
14:38:49 <Steven> Roland: Then we put it in the pipeline for the next version, and reply to this guy that he is right
Roland Merrick: Then we put it in the pipeline for the next version, and reply to this guy that he is right ←
14:40:49 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/REC-xhtml1-20090320-errata
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2009/REC-xhtml1-20090320-errata ←
14:40:59 <Steven> Steven: We can add it there
Steven Pemberton: We can add it there ←
14:41:32 <Roland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009AprJun/0015.html
Roland Merrick: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009AprJun/0015.html ←
14:41:50 <Steven> Topic: White space handline in XHTML 1.0
14:42:35 <Steven> Steven: What's up
Steven Pemberton: What's up ←
14:42:44 <Steven> Shane: XML defines our shitespace handling
Shane McCarron: XML defines our whitespace handling ←
14:42:48 <Steven> Steven: Right
Steven Pemberton: Right ←
14:42:57 <Steven> ... so we just have to tell him that
... so we just have to tell him that ←
14:43:01 <Steven> s/shite/white
14:43:21 <Steven> Shane: We defer to XML for input and CSS for output
Shane McCarron: We defer to XML for input and CSS for output ←
14:43:25 <Steven> Steven: Exactly right
Steven Pemberton: Exactly right ←
14:43:39 <Steven> Topic: AOB
14:44:25 <Steven> Steven: I'm not here next week
Steven Pemberton: I'm not here next week ←
14:44:44 <Steven> ... I'll ping Ralph on the transition
... I'll ping Ralph on the transition ←
14:44:55 <ShaneM> I have defined a new Container role-properties in the xhtml vocab document. it contains all of the values directly or indirectly
Shane McCarron: I have defined a new Container role-properties in the xhtml vocab document. it contains all of the values directly or indirectly ←
14:45:51 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
[ADJOURN] ←
14:46:09 <Zakim> -Roland
Zakim IRC Bot: -Roland ←
14:46:10 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita
Zakim IRC Bot: -Gregory_Rosmaita ←
14:46:10 <Zakim> -Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←
14:46:12 <Zakim> -McCarron
Zakim IRC Bot: -McCarron ←
14:46:12 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended
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14:46:13 <Zakim> Attendees were Roland, McCarron, Steven, Gregory_Rosmaita
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Roland, McCarron, Steven, Gregory_Rosmaita ←
16:08:36 <Steven> rrsagent, bye
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16:08:36 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-xhtml-actions.rdf :
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16:08:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Steven to advance role module to CR [1]
ACTION: Steven to advance role module to CR [1] ←
16:08:36 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-xhtml-irc#T13-59-48
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/29-xhtml-irc#T13-59-48 ←
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