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13:32:05 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-xhtml-irc
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13:32:07 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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13:32:09 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2 ←
13:32:09 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes ←
13:32:10 <trackbot> Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference
13:32:10 <trackbot> Date: 11 March 2009
13:44:30 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has now started
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13:44:37 <Zakim> +Roland
Zakim IRC Bot: +Roland ←
13:44:44 <Roland> trackbot, start telcon
Roland Merrick: trackbot, start telcon ←
13:44:46 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
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13:44:48 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be IA_XHTML2 ←
13:44:48 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot, I see IA_XHTML2()9:45AM already started ←
13:44:49 <trackbot> Meeting: XHTML2 Working Group Teleconference
13:44:49 <trackbot> Date: 11 March 2009
13:44:59 <Zakim> +McCarron
Zakim IRC Bot: +McCarron ←
13:45:06 <ShaneM> zakim, McCarron is ShaneM
Shane McCarron: zakim, McCarron is ShaneM ←
13:45:06 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM; got it ←
13:45:22 <Roland> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2009Mar/0078.html
13:45:34 <Roland> Chair: Roland
13:45:37 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
13:45:37 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made ←
13:45:39 <Zakim> +Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven ←
13:45:56 <Zakim> +Markus
Zakim IRC Bot: +Markus ←
13:48:25 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:48:43 <alessio> zakim, IPcaller is Alessio
Alessio Cartocci: zakim, IPcaller is Alessio ←
13:48:43 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Alessio; got it ←
13:51:23 <Steven> scribe: Steven
(Scribe set to Steven Pemberton)
13:51:28 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
13:51:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
13:51:48 <Steven> Topic: Announcements
13:52:20 <Steven> Roland: Steven and Tina, don't forget WAI ARIA review, due in April
Roland Merrick: Steven and Tina, don't forget WAI ARIA review, due in April ←
13:52:43 <Steven> Topic: Actions
13:52:56 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/open
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/open ←
13:53:16 <Steven> Roland: I haven't done 1 or 2
Roland Merrick: I haven't done 1 or 2 ←
13:53:35 <Steven> Shane: 14 we talked about yesterday, don't close it yet
Shane McCarron: 14 we talked about yesterday, don't close it yet ←
13:53:56 <Steven> ... I have fice actions marked 'pending review'
... I have five actions marked 'pending review' ←
13:54:03 <Steven> s/fice/five/
13:54:10 <Roland> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/pendingreview
Roland Merrick: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/tracker/actions/pendingreview ←
13:54:11 <Steven> Shane: Action 13 then
Shane McCarron: ACTION-13 then ←
13:54:34 <Steven> ... (marked 'pending review'
... (marked 'pending review' ←
13:55:03 <ShaneM> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Dec/0024.html
Shane McCarron: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Dec/0024.html ←
13:55:09 <Steven> ... script to expand CURIEs
... script to expand CURIEs ←
13:55:21 <Steven> Roland: Add it to wiki?
Roland Merrick: Add it to wiki? ←
13:56:14 <Steven> ACTION: Shane to add CURIE script to wiki
ACTION: Shane to add CURIE script to wiki ←
13:56:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-61 - Add CURIE script to wiki [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-03-18].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-61 - Add CURIE script to wiki [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-03-18]. ←
13:56:22 <Steven> Close action-13
13:56:22 <trackbot> ACTION-13 Craft an example script to generically transform a string to a CURIE using the XML DOM for inclusion or reference from the CURIE spec. closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-13 Craft an example script to generically transform a string to a CURIE using the XML DOM for inclusion or reference from the CURIE spec. closed ←
13:56:44 <Steven> Shane: Action 28
13:57:10 <Steven> Roland: Was on the agenda for yesterda, on the agenda for the next vftf
Roland Merrick: Was on the agenda for yesterday, on the agenda for the next vftf ←
13:57:17 <Steven> s/da,/day,
13:57:24 <Steven> Shane: Happy to leave this as pending
Shane McCarron: Happy to leave this as pending ←
13:58:08 <Steven> Roland: Consider action done, as it is on the agenda
Roland Merrick: Consider action done, as it is on the agenda ←
13:58:14 <Steven> close action-28
13:58:14 <trackbot> ACTION-28 add ITS to the XHTML 2 Doctype section closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-28 add ITS to the XHTML 2 Doctype section closed ←
13:58:21 <Steven> Shane: Action 45
13:58:36 <Steven> Roland: We can close, we did this
Roland Merrick: We can close, we did this ←
13:58:46 <Steven> close action-45
13:58:46 <trackbot> ACTION-45 Talk to the mobile people about allowing @lang closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-45 Talk to the mobile people about allowing @lang closed ←
13:58:57 <Steven> Roland: Action 49
13:59:19 <Steven> Shane: I think they expect me to update the vocab document
Shane McCarron: I think they expect me to update the vocab document ←
13:59:43 <Steven> close action-49
13:59:43 <trackbot> ACTION-49 - ensure that XHTML Vocab Document in sync with ARIA 1.0 Last Call draft are in sync closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-49 - ensure that XHTML Vocab Document in sync with ARIA 1.0 Last Call draft are in sync closed ←
14:00:08 <Steven> action: Shane to update vocab document for ARIA values
ACTION: Shane to update vocab document for ARIA values ←
14:00:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-62 - Update vocab document for ARIA values [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-03-18].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-62 - Update vocab document for ARIA values [on Shane McCarron - due 2009-03-18]. ←
14:00:31 <Steven> Roland: Action 50
14:00:57 <Steven> close action-50
14:00:57 <trackbot> ACTION-50 - send summation of discussion (this is what we need from language point of view and good practices bad practices) with examples closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-50 - send summation of discussion (this is what we need from language point of view and good practices bad practices) with examples closed ←
14:02:15 <Steven> Roland: Action 24
14:03:20 <Steven> Steven [reads text]; what more do we need
Steven [reads text]; what more do we need ←
14:03:36 <Steven> s/:/
14:03:45 <Steven> Shane: What about a fragment?
Shane McCarron: What about a fragment? ←
14:04:30 <Steven> ... does the content get added to the DOM? I think not. And is the content of the element in the DOM after replacement?
... does the content get added to the DOM? I think not. And is the content of the element in the DOM after replacement? ←
14:05:01 <Steven> Roland: Is this the same as action-27?
Roland Merrick: Is this the same as ACTION-27? ←
14:05:49 <Steven> Shane: Look at the issues at the end of the chapter
Shane McCarron: Look at the issues at the end of the chapter ←
14:07:13 <Steven> Steven: I suspect (though need to check) that it should work like <object>
Steven Pemberton: I suspect (though need to check) that it should work like <object> ←
14:07:30 <Steven> ... so it is a CSS embedding, as replaced elements work
... so it is a CSS embedding, as replaced elements work ←
14:08:15 <Steven> ... I'll take another bash at it
... I'll take another bash at it ←
14:08:24 <Steven> Roland: Close 24, and deal with it under 27
Roland Merrick: Close 24, and deal with it under 27 ←
14:08:34 <Steven> close action-24
14:08:34 <trackbot> ACTION-24 Add text to embedding module saying how it works closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-24 Add text to embedding module saying how it works closed ←
14:08:45 <Steven> Roland: Action-29
14:08:58 <Steven> ... I will write note that we won't do it
... I will write note that we won't do it ←
14:11:57 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0008.html
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2009JanMar/0008.html ←
14:14:47 <Steven> Steven: Action 47, I will ping Addison
Steven Pemberton: ACTION-47, I will ping Addison ←
14:17:02 <Steven> Roland: What's holding up role?
Roland Merrick: What's holding up role? ←
14:17:13 <Steven> Steven: Nothing. I will send.
Steven Pemberton: Nothing. I will send. ←
14:19:22 <Steven> TOPIC: CURIEs and Host languages
14:19:27 <Roland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2009Mar/0000.html
Roland Merrick: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2009Mar/0000.html ←
14:21:13 <Steven> Steven: So he's asking for SHOULD instead of MUST?
Steven Pemberton: So he's asking for SHOULD instead of MUST? ←
14:21:27 <Steven> Roland: Well, we need to say that there MUST be a prefix mechanism
Roland Merrick: Well, we need to say that there MUST be a prefix mechanism ←
14:21:51 <Steven> Shane: I should add this to tracker
Shane McCarron: I should add this to tracker ←
14:22:12 <Steven> Shane: There is the question of another prefix mechanism being discussed
Shane McCarron: There is the question of another prefix mechanism being discussed ←
14:23:11 <Steven> Steven: Leave design of mechanism to RDFa tf
Steven Pemberton: Leave design of mechanism to RDFa tf ←
14:23:35 <Steven> Shane: It should be left to the host language
Shane McCarron: It should be left to the host language ←
14:24:22 <Steven> Steven: This is not a CR problem, because it would just weaken the normative requirements
Steven Pemberton: This is not a CR problem, because it would just weaken the normative requirements ←
14:24:34 <Steven> Shane: Then I support it
Shane McCarron: Then I support it ←
14:25:28 <Steven> proposed RESOLUTION: make the prefix mechanism a responsibility og the host language and not the CURIE spec
proposed RESOLUTION: make the prefix mechanism a responsibility of the host language and not the CURIE spec ←
14:25:34 <Steven> s/og/of/
14:25:44 <Steven> RESOLUTION: make the prefix mechanism a responsibility og the host language and not the CURIE spec
RESOLVED: make the prefix mechanism a responsibility of the host language and not the CURIE spec ←
14:25:51 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:25:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
14:26:30 <Steven> Regrets: Mark, Tina
Scribe problem: the name 'Mark' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Markus Gylling Mark Birbeck . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.
14:26:49 <Steven> s/og/of/
14:27:04 <Steven> Topic: Next vftf
14:29:37 <Steven> Roland: Tues or Thurs in a week, or extend the Weds call
Roland Merrick: Tues or Thurs in a week, or extend the Weds call ←
14:30:49 <Steven> Markus: I could make next week, I'd be up super early, but jetlagged anyway
Markus Gylling: I could make next week, I'd be up super early, but jetlagged anyway ←
14:31:11 <Steven> Roland: How about next Weds?
Roland Merrick: How about next Weds? ←
14:31:16 <Steven> Alessio: Not sure
Alessio Cartocci: Not sure ←
14:32:22 <Steven> Roland: Next Weds, 105 mins earlier?
Roland Merrick: Next Weds, 105 mins earlier? ←
14:32:29 <Steven> Shane: OK with me
Shane McCarron: OK with me ←
14:34:59 <Steven> Steven: Not Alessio though. How about the 26th?
Steven Pemberton: Not Alessio though. How about the 26th? ←
14:35:09 <Steven> Shane: OK, if starting 8am my time
Shane McCarron: OK, if starting 8am my time ←
14:35:13 <Steven> Markus: OK
Markus Gylling: OK ←
14:35:19 <Steven> Alessio: OK
Alessio Cartocci: OK ←
14:36:26 <Roland> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=03&day=25&hour=13&min=00&sec=0&p1=136&p2=179&p3=215&p4=248&p5=283
Roland Merrick: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=03&day=25&hour=13&min=00&sec=0&p1=136&p2=179&p3=215&p4=248&p5=283 ←
14:37:08 <Roland> oops http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=03&day=26&hour=13&min=00&sec=0&p1=136&p2=179&p3=215&p4=248&p5=283
Roland Merrick: oops http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2009&month=03&day=26&hour=13&min=00&sec=0&p1=136&p2=179&p3=215&p4=248&p5=283 ←
14:37:18 <alessio> +1
Alessio Cartocci: +1 ←
14:37:18 <Steven> Steven: That's 13:00UTC
Steven Pemberton: That's 13:00UTC ←
14:38:06 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
[ADJOURN] ←
14:38:13 <Zakim> -Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←
14:38:14 <Zakim> -Markus
Zakim IRC Bot: -Markus ←
14:38:15 <Zakim> -Alessio
Zakim IRC Bot: -Alessio ←
14:38:16 <Zakim> -ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←
14:39:07 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
zakim, who is here? ←
14:39:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see Roland
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Roland ←
14:39:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see alessio, Roland, ShaneM, Markus, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see alessio, Roland, ShaneM, Markus, Zakim, RRSAgent, Steven, trackbot ←
14:39:13 <Steven> zakim, dro proland
zakim, dro proland ←
14:39:13 <Zakim> I don't understand 'dro proland', Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'dro proland', Steven ←
14:39:18 <Steven> zakim, drop roland
zakim, drop roland ←
14:39:18 <Zakim> Roland is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: Roland is being disconnected ←
14:39:20 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:45AM has ended ←
14:39:22 <Zakim> Attendees were Roland, ShaneM, Steven, Markus, Alessio
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Roland, ShaneM, Steven, Markus, Alessio ←
14:39:27 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:39:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/03/11-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
14:47:52 <Steven> Shane?
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Shane? ←
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