Meeting Record

XHTML2 WG Weekly Teleconference

Minutes of 05 March 2008

Agenda

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Mar/0000.html

Seen

Alessio Cartocci, Gregory Rosmaita, Mark Birbeck, Roland Merrick, Shane McCarron, Steven Pemberton, Tina Holmboe, Unknown Tim, Unknown yamx

Regrets

Shane McCarron, Gregory Rosmaita, Mark Birbeck, Tina Holmboe

Chair

Roland Merrick

Scribe

Steven Pemberton

IRC Log

Original

Resolutions

None.

Topics

Reviews
CURIE last call transition
M12N transition
XHTML Basic 1.1 transition
XHTML 1.1 2nd
RDFa Syntax
Role Attribute Module.
XHTML2 wiki
XML Events
June FtF
Venice FtF review
Action items

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13:56:31 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/03/05-xhtml-irc

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13:56:53 <RolandMerrick> Zakim, this will be XHTML2

Roland Merrick: Zakim, this will be XHTML2 ←

13:56:53 <Zakim> ok, RolandMerrick; I see IA_XHTML2()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, RolandMerrick; I see IA_XHTML2()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes ←

13:57:45 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:00AM has now started ←

13:57:52 <Zakim> + +0138687aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +0138687aaaa ←

13:58:05 <Roland> Zakim, aaaa is Roland

Roland Merrick: Zakim, aaaa is Roland ←

13:58:05 <Zakim> +Roland; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Roland; got it ←

13:59:32 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617

Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←

13:59:32 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made

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13:59:33 <Zakim> +Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven ←

14:00:52 <Steven> zakim, drop steven

Steven Pemberton: zakim, drop steven ←

14:00:52 <Zakim> Steven is being disconnected

Zakim IRC Bot: Steven is being disconnected ←

14:00:53 <Zakim> -Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←

14:01:03 <Zakim> +Tim

Zakim IRC Bot: +Tim ←

14:01:11 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617

Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←

14:01:11 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made ←

14:01:13 <Zakim> +Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven ←

14:02:00 <Zakim> -Tim

Scribe problem: the name 'Tim' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -Tim ←

14:02:18 <Zakim> + +1.858.354.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.858.354.aabb ←

14:02:48 <Zakim> +??P10

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10 ←

14:02:56 <yamx> zakim, ??P10 is yamx

Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown yamx: zakim, ??P10 is yamx ←

14:02:56 <Zakim> +yamx; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +yamx; got it ←

14:03:01 <Roland> Meeting: XHTML2 WG Weekly Teleconference

14:03:11 <Roland> Chair: Roland

14:03:30 <Roland> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Mar/0000.html

14:03:55 <Zakim> +??P15

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15 ←

14:04:50 <Roland> zakim, ??P15 is Alessio

Roland Merrick: zakim, ??P15 is Alessio ←

14:04:50 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Alessio; got it ←

14:05:03 <Steven> zakim, drop steven

Steven Pemberton: zakim, drop steven ←

14:05:03 <Zakim> Steven is being disconnected

Zakim IRC Bot: Steven is being disconnected ←

14:05:05 <Zakim> -Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←

14:05:09 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617

Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←

14:05:09 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made ←

14:05:10 <Zakim> +Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven ←

14:06:20 <Roland> Regrets: Shane, Gregory, Mark, Tina

14:06:31 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, make minutes ←

14:06:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/05-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/05-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←

14:06:56 <Steven> rrsagent, make log public

Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, make log public ←

14:07:04 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, make minutes ←

14:07:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/05-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/05-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←

14:07:23 <Steven> Scribe: Steven

(Scribe set to Steven Pemberton)

14:07:46 <Steven> Topic: Reviews

1. Reviews

14:08:02 <Steven> Roland: CSS Namespace

Roland Merrick: CSS Namespace ←

14:10:44 <yamx> Steven: an issue on CSS namespace

Steven Pemberton: an issue on CSS namespace [ Scribe Assist by Unknown yamx ] ←

14:10:58 <yamx> Steven: it differs whether recognizing namespace or not.

Steven Pemberton: it differs whether recognizing namespace or not. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown yamx ] ←

14:11:23 <yamx> Steven: I will write this comment tomorrow on mailing list with this worry.

Steven Pemberton: I will write this comment tomorrow on mailing list with this worry. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown yamx ] ←

14:12:49 <Zakim> -Alessio

Zakim IRC Bot: -Alessio ←

14:14:40 <Zakim> +??P15

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15 ←

14:17:37 <Roland> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2008&month=4&day=1&hour=13&min=0&sec=0&p1=136&p2=179&p3=215&p4=248&p5=283

Roland Merrick: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2008&month=4&day=1&hour=13&min=0&sec=0&p1=136&p2=179&p3=215&p4=248&p5=283 ←

14:23:19 <yamx> We talked about meeting time. Agreed to make it one hour later. Roland will send detailed time for next few weeks.

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Unknown yamx: We talked about meeting time. Agreed to make it one hour later. Roland will send detailed time for next few weeks. ←

14:23:32 <yamx> Topic: CURIE last call transition

2. CURIE last call transition

14:24:26 <yamx> Roland: 4 weeks, end date.

Roland Merrick: 4 weeks, end date. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown yamx ] ←

14:24:45 <yamx> Steven: when draft ready, I will send.

Steven Pemberton: when draft ready, I will send. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown yamx ] ←

14:24:54 <yamx> Topic: M12N transition

3. M12N transition

14:25:25 <yamx> Steven: Steve Bratt sent editorial.

Steven Pemberton: Steve Bratt sent editorial remarks. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown yamx ] ←

14:25:45 <yamx> s/editorial/editorial remarks/

14:26:19 <yamx> Steven: When editorial done, call will be scheduled.

Steven Pemberton: When editorial done, call will be scheduled. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown yamx ] ←

14:26:26 <yamx> Topic: XHTML Basic 1.1 transition

4. XHTML Basic 1.1 transition

14:26:39 <yamx> Steven: it is waiting for my transition report. I will do it this week.

Steven Pemberton: it is waiting for my implementation report. I will do it this week. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown yamx ] ←

14:26:59 <yamx> Topic: XHTML 1.1 2nd

5. XHTML 1.1 2nd

14:27:07 <yamx> Roland: it is waiting for M12N.

Roland Merrick: it is waiting for M12N. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown yamx ] ←

14:27:14 <yamx> Topic: RDFa Syntax

6. RDFa Syntax

14:27:26 <yamx> Steven: I will do this week.

Steven Pemberton: I will do this week. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown yamx ] ←

14:27:34 <yamx> s/my transition report/my implementation report/

14:27:46 <yamx> Topic: Role Attribute Module.

7. Role Attribute Module.

14:28:35 <yamx> Roland: WAI(PF) is discussing, Gregory noted in his mail.

Roland Merrick: WAI(PF) is discussing, Gregory noted in his mail. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown yamx ] ←

14:28:54 <yamx> Topic: XHTML2 wiki

8. XHTML2 wiki

14:30:02 <yamx> Allesio: point to post tests , implementations

Alessio Cartocci: point to post tests , implementations [ Scribe Assist by Unknown yamx ] ←

14:30:25 <yamx> s/Allesio/Alessio/

14:30:42 <Steven> Scribe: Steven

14:30:52 <Steven> Steven: Anyone in the WG can edit the wiki space

Steven Pemberton: Anyone in the WG can edit the wiki space ←

14:31:08 <Steven> ... log in and create a username, and tell me, and I will give you edit permissions

... log in and create a username, and tell me, and I will give you edit permissions ←

14:31:35 <Steven> Alessio: It would be good to start some conversations with people outside the WG

Alessio Cartocci: It would be good to start some conversations with people outside the WG ←

14:32:14 <Steven> Roland: We can add stuff as we need, but please register for the wiki and let Steven know

Roland Merrick: We can add stuff as we need, but please register for the wiki and let Steven know ←

14:32:26 <Steven> ... it supports OpenID by the way

... it supports OpenID by the way ←

14:32:43 <Steven> Topic: XML Events

9. XML Events

14:33:42 <Steven> Roland: We had some comments from Eric from teh Forms WG

Roland Merrick: We had some comments from Erik from the Forms WG ←

14:33:48 <Steven> s/teh/the/

14:34:25 <Steven> s/Eric/Erik/

14:35:18 <Roland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2008JanMar/0012.html

Roland Merrick: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2008JanMar/0012.html ←

14:35:59 <Steven> Roland: COmment 1 looks like it is a mistake in our document

Roland Merrick: Comment 1 looks like it is a mistake in our document ←

14:36:05 <Steven> s/CO/Co/

14:36:09 <Roland> event() function http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xml-events-20070216/#xpath-event-function

Roland Merrick: event() function http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xml-events-20070216/#xpath-event-function ←

14:36:57 <Steven> ... an inconsistency

... an inconsistency ←

14:37:02 <Steven> ... so we should fix that

... so we should fix that ←

14:37:59 <Steven> Steven: Comments 2, 3 and 4 are all about allowing attributes hold a list of values

Steven Pemberton: Comments 2, 3 and 4 are all about allowing attributes hold a list of values ←

14:39:26 <Steven> ... looks harmless

... looks harmless ←

14:39:40 <Steven> Steven: DO we agree?

Steven Pemberton: Do we agree? ←

14:39:42 <Steven> Roland: Yes

Roland Merrick: Yes ←

14:40:04 <Steven> ACTION: Roland respond to Erik on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2008JanMar/0012.html

ACTION: Roland respond to Erik on http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2008JanMar/0012.html ←

14:40:09 <Steven> s/DO/Do/

14:40:31 <Steven> ACTION: Shane to edit XML Events 2 according to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2008JanMar/0012.html

ACTION: Roland to edit XML Events 2 according to http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2008JanMar/0012.html ←

14:40:40 <Steven> s/Shane/Roland/

14:41:03 <Steven> Topic: June FtF

10. June FtF

14:41:10 <Steven> Steven: Hosted by Shane

Steven Pemberton: Hosted by Shane ←

14:41:20 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to create FtF page

ACTION: Steven to create FtF page ←

14:42:08 <Steven> Topic: Venice FtF review

11. Venice FtF review

14:42:24 <Steven> Roland: Alessio, any progress on the iframe experiment?

Roland Merrick: Alessio, any progress on the iframe experiment? ←

14:42:32 <Steven> Alessio: I will be working on that next week

Alessio Cartocci: I will be working on that next week ←

14:42:43 <Steven> ... I am rounding off a project at the moment

... I am rounding off a project at the moment ←

14:43:06 <Steven> ... we should also try to make different implementations

... we should also try to make different implementations ←

14:43:21 <Steven> ... one with a iframe, one with object, one with XFrames

... one with a iframe, one with object, one with XFrames ←

14:43:36 <Steven> ... to be able to compare them

... to be able to compare them ←

14:43:59 <Steven> ... and then publish on the wiki

... and then publish on the wiki ←

14:45:49 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes ←

14:45:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/05-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/05-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←

14:46:57 <Steven> Topic: Action items

12. Action items

14:47:24 <Steven> Roland: Some actions are quite old and are probably done, but need to be sorted out

Roland Merrick: Some actions are quite old and are probably done, but need to be sorted out ←

14:48:10 <Steven> [ADJOURN]

[ADJOURN] ←

14:48:15 <Zakim> - +1.858.354.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.858.354.aabb ←

14:48:16 <Zakim> -yamx

Zakim IRC Bot: -yamx ←

14:48:16 <Zakim> -??P15

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P15 ←

14:48:18 <Zakim> -Roland

Zakim IRC Bot: -Roland ←

14:48:18 <Zakim> -Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←

14:48:20 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:00AM has ended ←

14:48:22 <Zakim> Attendees were +0138687aaaa, Roland, Steven, Tim, +1.858.354.aabb, yamx, Alessio

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +0138687aaaa, Roland, Steven, Tim, +1.858.354.aabb, yamx, Alessio ←

14:49:19 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes ←

14:49:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/05-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/03/05-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←

15:02:19 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?

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Mark Birbeck: zakim, code? ←

15:02:19 <Zakim> the conference code is hidden, markbirbeck

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is hidden, markbirbeck ←

15:02:56 <markbirbeck> Ah...have I missed it?

Mark Birbeck: Ah...have I missed it? ←

15:04:15 <Steven> yes

yes ←

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