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Weekly XHTML2 Teleconference

Minutes of 23 January 2008

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jan/0019
Seen
Gerrie Shults, Gregory Rosmaita, Mark Birbeck, Roland Merrick, Shane McCarron, Steven Pemberton, Toshihiko Yamakami, Unknown ShaneM.a, Unknown yamx
Regrets
Mark Birbeck
Chair
Roland Merrick
Scribe
Steven Pemberton
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Take CURIE spec to last call link
Topics

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14:00:43 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/01/23-xhtml-irc

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14:00:56 <Steven> rrsagent, make log public

Steven Pemberton: rrsagent, make log public

14:01:03 <Steven> zakim, this will be xhtml

Steven Pemberton: zakim, this will be xhtml

14:01:03 <Zakim> Steven, IA_XHTML2()9:00AM is already associated with an irc channel; use 'move xhtml to here' if you mean to reassociate the channel

Zakim IRC Bot: Steven, IA_XHTML2()9:00AM is already associated with an irc channel; use 'move xhtml to here' if you mean to reassociate the channel

14:02:07 <Steven> Roland?

Steven Pemberton: Roland?

14:02:13 <Roland> hi

Roland Merrick: hi

14:02:17 <Steven> I see you have zakim in another channel

Steven Pemberton: I see you have zakim in another channel

14:02:29 <Steven> OK if I move him/her/it here?

Steven Pemberton: OK if I move him/her/it here?

14:02:39 <Roland> sure

Roland Merrick: sure

14:02:46 <Steven> zakim, move xhtml here

Steven Pemberton: zakim, move xhtml here

14:02:46 <Zakim> I don't understand 'move xhtml here', Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'move xhtml here', Steven

14:02:56 <Steven> zakim, move xhtml to here

Steven Pemberton: zakim, move xhtml to here

14:02:57 <Zakim> ok, Steven; that matches IA_XHTML2()9:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; that matches IA_XHTML2()9:00AM

14:03:07 <Steven> zakim, who is on the call?

Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is on the call?

14:03:07 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P7, +1.858.354.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P7, +1.858.354.aaaa

14:03:17 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617

Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617

14:03:17 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made

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14:03:19 <Zakim> +Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven

14:03:28 <Zakim> +ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM

14:05:02 <Steven> zakim, aaaa is gshults

Steven Pemberton: zakim, aaaa is gshults

14:05:02 <Zakim> +gshults; got it

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14:05:11 <Steven> zakim, who is here?

Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is here?

14:05:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P7, gshults, Steven, ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P7, gshults, Steven, ShaneM

14:05:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see gshults, RRSAgent, Zakim, ShaneM, oedipus, Roland, Steven, Lachy, krijn

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14:05:30 <Zakim> +Gregory_Rosmaita

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14:05:37 <Steven> zakim, mute ??P7

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14:05:37 <Zakim> ??P7 should now be muted

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14:05:49 <Steven> zakim, ??P7 is ROland

Steven Pemberton: zakim, ??P7 is ROland

14:05:49 <Zakim> +ROland; got it

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14:05:57 <Steven> zakim, ROland is Roland

Steven Pemberton: zakim, ROland is Roland

14:05:57 <Zakim> +Roland; got it

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14:06:03 <Steven> zakim ack Roland

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14:06:11 <Steven> ack ROland

Steven Pemberton: ack ROland

14:06:30 <Roland> zakim, list

Roland Merrick: zakim, list

14:06:30 <Zakim> I see Team_W3M()8:00AM, I18N_TS()9:00AM, IA_XHTML2()9:00AM, Team_(rifc)12:56Z active

Zakim IRC Bot: I see Team_W3M()8:00AM, I18N_TS()9:00AM, IA_XHTML2()9:00AM, Team_(rifc)12:56Z active

14:06:32 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time is WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM

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14:07:30 <Zakim> +??P13

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14:07:42 <yamx> zakim, ??P13 is yamx.

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Unknown yamx: zakim, ??P13 is yamx.

14:07:42 <Zakim> +yamx; got it

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14:08:03 <Steven> Chair: Roland
14:08:08 <Steven> Regrets: Mark
14:08:41 <Zakim> +??P14

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14:08:56 <Steven> Regrets+Rich

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14:09:07 <Steven> zakim, ??P14 is ShaneM

Steven Pemberton: zakim, ??P14 is ShaneM

14:09:07 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it

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14:09:18 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jan/0019
14:09:27 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jan/0019

Steven Pemberton: Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jan/0019

14:09:52 <Steven> Scribe: Steven

(Scribe set to Steven Pemberton)

14:10:15 <Steven> Topic: Announcements

1. Announcements

14:10:28 <Steven> Gerry: I am in San Diego, and representing HP

Gerrie Shults: I am in San Diego, and representing HP

14:11:00 <Steven> ... been away from HP for 7 months, just back. Used to work with Melinda on XHTML Print, and other standards efforts

... been away from HP for 7 months, just back. Used to work with Melinda on XHTML Print, and other standards efforts

14:11:23 <Steven> Steven: It is 6am with you?

Steven Pemberton: It is 6am with you?

14:11:25 <Steven> Gerry: Yes

Gerrie Shults: Yes

14:11:26 <oedipus> it's even earlier for yam!

Gregory Rosmaita: it's even earlier for yam!

14:11:30 <Steven> Steven: Sorry about that

Steven Pemberton: Sorry about that

14:12:19 <Steven> ... it is really hard to find a time that is suitable for all

... it is really hard to find a time that is suitable for all

14:12:26 <Steven> s/Gerry/Gerrie/G
14:13:31 <Steven> Roland: One review is due by end of month, please finish it this week

Roland Merrick: One review is due by end of month, please finish it this week

14:13:41 <Steven> Topic: Aria issues

2. Aria issues

14:13:56 <Steven> Roland: Unfortunately no RIch today. Anyone know the status?

Roland Merrick: Unfortunately no Rich today. Anyone know the status?

14:14:13 <Steven> Gregory: Yes, some documents have been combined

Gregory Rosmaita: Yes, some documents have been combined

14:14:25 <Steven> ... awaiting approval to Wednesday to be made public

... awaiting approval to Wednesday to be made public

14:14:37 <Steven> s/RIch/Rich/
14:15:12 <Steven> Gregory: Go to PF home page, to see status

Gregory Rosmaita: Go to PF home page, to see status

14:15:20 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group

Gregory Rosmaita: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group

14:15:25 <oedipus> under "Current Work"

Gregory Rosmaita: under "Current Work"

14:15:46 <oedipus> roles document and states and properties docment been combined

Gregory Rosmaita: roles document and states and properties docment been combined

14:15:53 <Steven> Gregory: Roles and states and properties have been combined

Gregory Rosmaita: Roles and states and properties have been combined

14:16:25 <Steven> ... no links here becuase they are member confidential

... no links here because they are member confidential

14:16:34 <Steven> s/cua/cau/
14:16:45 <oedipus> 1. ARIA Specification (combined Roles plus States and Properties)

Gregory Rosmaita: 1. ARIA Specification (combined Roles plus States and Properties)

14:16:45 <oedipus> 2. ARIA Best Practices

Gregory Rosmaita: 2. ARIA Best Practices

14:16:45 <oedipus> 3. ARIA Primer

Gregory Rosmaita: 3. ARIA Primer

14:16:45 <oedipus> 4. ARIA Roadma

Gregory Rosmaita: 4. ARIA Roadmap

14:16:56 <Steven> s/ma/map/
14:17:53 <Steven> Gregory: THere is a remaining issue of getting ARIA into HTML5

Gregory Rosmaita: There is a remaining issue of getting ARIA into HTML5

14:17:59 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
14:18:20 <Steven> ... HTML5 was released yesterday, without ARIA in it

... HTML5 was released yesterday, without ARIA in it

14:19:24 <Steven> Roland: Note that issue Caption positioning & binding example using WAI-ARIA markup

Roland Merrick: Note that issue Caption positioning & binding example using WAI-ARIA markup

14:19:24 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0012  has been closed

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0012 has been closed

14:19:58 <Steven> Gregory: There were two formal objections to the publication, but it went ahead anyway

Gregory Rosmaita: There were two formal objections to the publication, but it went ahead anyway

14:21:18 <Steven> Topic: FtF Venice

3. FtF Venice

14:21:30 <Steven> Roland: Who is attending?

Roland Merrick: Who is attending?

14:21:33 <Steven> Steven: I am

Steven Pemberton: I am

14:21:37 <Steven> Roland: I am

Roland Merrick: I am

14:21:38 <yamx> Yam: I will.

Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Toshihiko Yamakami: I will. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown yamx ]

14:21:52 <oedipus> GJR waiting to "see" if impending contract work will allow him to travel at that time -- remote participation?

Gregory Rosmaita: GJR waiting to "see" if impending contract work will allow him to travel at that time -- remote participation?

14:22:00 <gshults> I likely will not

Gerrie Shults: I likely will not

14:22:48 <Steven> Steven: There will be a skype conference for remote participation

Steven Pemberton: There will be a skype conference for remote participation

14:22:53 <oedipus> skype would be ideal -- even just IRC -- worked at TPAC 2008

Gregory Rosmaita: skype would be ideal -- even just IRC -- worked at TPAC 2008

14:22:56 <Steven> Topic: M12N Transition

4. M12N Transition

14:23:35 <oedipus> GJR's post that closes action item: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0012.html

Gregory Rosmaita: GJR's post that closes action item: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0012.html

14:23:36 <Steven> Roland: Status?

Roland Merrick: Status?

14:23:54 <oedipus> reply to GJR's post by Gez Lemon with alternate syntax: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0012.html

Gregory Rosmaita: reply to GJR's post by Gez Lemon with alternate syntax: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Jul/0012.html

14:24:45 <Steven> Steven: Shane produced a new draft, I made a draft 'implementation' report

Steven Pemberton: Shane produced a new draft, I made a draft 'implementation' report

14:25:27 <Steven> Shane: Why not list the W3C Validator?

Shane McCarron: Why not list the W3C Validator?

14:25:33 <Steven> Steven: Good idea!

Steven Pemberton: Good idea!

14:25:33 <oedipus> lol

Gregory Rosmaita: lol

14:25:58 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/m12n-11-implementation.html

http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/m12n-11-implementation.html

14:27:40 <oedipus> GJR thought on Selectors API: from an accessibility standpoint, an advantage of using such an API for applications that need access to the live DOM (as opposed to the DOM that results from parsing the document).  currently such applications use query languages like XPath, which dictate extra  dependencies for that application and which do not support querying the live DOM; therefore, because the Selectors API would be integrated into the user agent, it would

Gregory Rosmaita: GJR thought on Selectors API: from an accessibility standpoint, an advantage of using such an API for applications that need access to the live DOM (as opposed to the DOM that results from parsing the document). currently such applications use query languages like XPath, which dictate extra dependencies for that application and which do not support querying the live DOM; therefore, because the Selectors API would be integrated into the user agent, it would

14:28:09 <Steven> Steven: At the call we will be asking for CR, but arguing we might as well go straight to PR.

Steven Pemberton: At the call we will be asking for CR, but arguing we might as well go straight to PR.

14:28:30 <Steven> Shane: We should look at Jabber, XMPP

Shane McCarron: We should look at Jabber, XMPP

14:28:50 <Steven> Roland: CDF, DIAL

Roland Merrick: CDF, DIAL

14:30:50 <oedipus> my left or yours?

Gregory Rosmaita: my left or yours?

14:30:58 <Steven> Shane: THe style sheet is wrong, it says PR

Shane McCarron: The style sheet is wrong, it says PR

14:31:01 <Steven> Steven: Thanks!

Steven Pemberton: Thanks!

14:31:13 <Steven> s/THe/The/
14:32:00 <Steven> Yam: OMA refers to M12N, and we will have a meeting in February, and hope we will be able to refer to 1.1 by then

Toshihiko Yamakami: OMA refers to M12N, and we will have a meeting in February, and hope we will be able to refer to 1.1 by then

14:32:43 <Steven> Topic: CURIEs

5. CURIEs

14:32:54 <Steven> Roland: We talked about going to last call

Roland Merrick: We talked about going to last call

14:32:58 <Steven> ... Shane did an update

... Shane did an update

14:33:04 <Steven> ... are we ready to go to last call?

... are we ready to go to last call?

14:33:20 <Steven> Shane: It's a shame that Mark's not here.

Shane McCarron: It's a shame that Mark's not here.

14:33:40 <Steven> ... Mark indicated that he felt that some text about processing rules should be in the CURIE spec

... Mark indicated that he felt that some text about processing rules should be in the CURIE spec

14:33:58 <Steven> ... I disagree, I have not put it in, and think we should consider it as a last call comment

... I disagree, I have not put it in, and think we should consider it as a last call comment

14:34:14 <Steven> ... there is an issue about RtL languages

... there is an issue about RtL languages

14:34:24 <Steven> ... I'm sure we discussed this

... I'm sure we discussed this

14:34:41 <ShaneM>  http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-curie-20080122/#s_syntax

Shane McCarron: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2008/ED-curie-20080122/#s_syntax

14:34:50 <ShaneM>  end of that section has an embedded issue about RTL languages

Shane McCarron: end of that section has an embedded issue about RTL languages

14:36:54 <Steven> Steven: Doesn't seem to be a blocking factor for last call

Steven Pemberton: Doesn't seem to be a blocking factor for last call

14:37:51 <Steven> ... we do the same as QNames

... we do the same as QNames

14:37:59 <Steven> Roland: Resolve to go to last call?

Roland Merrick: Resolve to go to last call?

14:38:10 <oedipus> GJR: plus one to going to LC

Gregory Rosmaita: plus one to going to LC [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Rosmaita ]

14:38:19 <Steven> ... Any objections?

... Any objections?

14:38:34 <Steven> RESOLUTION: Take CURIE spec to last call

RESOLVED: Take CURIE spec to last call

14:40:25 <Steven> ACTION: Roland to negotiate last call period for CURIEs with HCG

ACTION: Roland to negotiate last call period for CURIEs with HCG

14:41:03 <oedipus> regrets+ Alessio

Gregory Rosmaita: regrets+ Alessio

14:41:46 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/xslt?xmlfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions.html&xslfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transitions.xsl&docstatus=lc-wd-tr

http://www.w3.org/2005/08/online_xslt/xslt?xmlfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions.html&xslfile=http://www.w3.org/2005/08/transitions.xsl&docstatus=lc-wd-tr

14:41:57 <Steven> Topic: Second last call for role

6. Second last call for role

14:42:07 <Steven> Shane: I will work on this

Shane McCarron: I will work on this

14:42:18 <Steven> ... I need to integrate a couple of comments

... I need to integrate a couple of comments

14:42:27 <Steven> Roland: And it can refer to the CURIE doc

Roland Merrick: And it can refer to the CURIE doc

14:42:40 <Steven> Shane: Which adds a constraint on its progress

Shane McCarron: Which adds a constraint on its progress

14:42:57 <Steven> ACTION: Shane to produce new draft of role for second las tcall

ACTION: Shane to produce new draft of role for second las tcall

14:43:10 <Steven> Shane: By CoB Monday

Shane McCarron: By CoB Monday

14:43:23 <Steven> Topic: XHTML 1.1

7. XHTML 1.1

14:43:42 <Steven> Roland: So when M12N is moved, we can move XHTML 1,1, forward

Roland Merrick: So when M12N is moved, we can move XHTML 1,1, forward

14:44:01 <Steven> Comments  (PR#9715)

Comments (PR#9715)

14:44:01 <Steven>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JanMar/0027

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JanMar/0027

14:45:12 <Steven> Shane: THis is all fixed

Shane McCarron: This is all fixed

14:45:17 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
14:45:44 <Steven> Shane: And it says so in the issue tracker

Shane McCarron: And it says so in the issue tracker

14:46:07 <Steven> Roland: Media types  (PR#9716):

Roland Merrick: Media types (PR#9716):

14:46:07 <Steven>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JanMar/0029

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JanMar/0029

14:46:50 <ShaneM>  http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml11-20070416/

Shane McCarron: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2007/ED-xhtml11-20070416/

14:46:54 <Steven> Shane: Checking draft

Shane McCarron: Checking draft

14:48:02 <oedipus> quote XHTML 1.1 documents SHOULD be labeled with the Internet Media Type application/xhtml+xml as defined in [RFC3236]. They SHOULD NOT be labeled with the Internet Media Type text/html as defined in [RFC2854]. For further information on using media types with XHTML, see the informative note [XHTMLMIME]. unquote

Gregory Rosmaita: quote XHTML 1.1 documents SHOULD be labeled with the Internet Media Type application/xhtml+xml as defined in [RFC3236]. They SHOULD NOT be labeled with the Internet Media Type text/html as defined in [RFC2854]. For further information on using media types with XHTML, see the informative note [XHTMLMIME]. unquote

14:48:19 <Steven> Steven: "XHTML 1.1 documents SHOULD be labeled with the Internet Media Type "application/xhtml+xml" as defined in [RFC3236]." is in the spec

Steven Pemberton: "XHTML 1.1 documents SHOULD be labeled with the Internet Media Type "application/xhtml+xml" as defined in [RFC3236]." is in the spec

14:49:42 <oedipus> sounds good to me

Gregory Rosmaita: sounds good to me

14:49:47 <ShaneM>  The working group agreed that the media type SHOULD be application/xhtml+xml.  The group did NOT agree that we add the restriction about the document type text/html not being used because a document author may need to make that compromise.

Shane McCarron: The working group agreed that the media type SHOULD be application/xhtml+xml. The group did NOT agree that we add the restriction about the document type text/html not being used because a document author may need to make that compromise.

14:49:50 <Steven> Roland: Anyone with a problem with this wording?

Roland Merrick: Anyone with a problem with this wording?

14:50:34 <Steven> Steven: ... and we don't believe we should prevent an author doing that

Steven Pemberton: ... and we don't believe we should prevent an author doing that

14:50:53 <Steven> Roland: DOCTYPE

Roland Merrick: DOCTYPE

14:50:53 <Steven>     http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-html-wg/2007JanMar/0082

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-html-wg/2007JanMar/0082

14:51:18 <oedipus> are we "looking" at: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xhtml2-issues/DocType?id=7336

Gregory Rosmaita: are we "looking" at: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xhtml2-issues/DocType?id=7336

14:55:44 <Steven> Shane: Some people say that you can't get to the DOCTYPE in the DOM

Shane McCarron: Some people say that you can't get to the DOCTYPE in the DOM

14:55:56 <Steven> Roland: You should be able to, but not all browsers accept it.

Roland Merrick: You should be able to, but not all browsers accept it.

14:56:53 <oedipus> <?xml version="1.1" ?>

Gregory Rosmaita: <?xml version="1.1" ?>

14:57:10 <Steven> Steven: Why don't we use @version to distinguish family members?

Steven Pemberton: Why don't we use @version to distinguish family members?

14:57:52 <Steven> Shane: It's there already, not deprecated, but we've never used it

Shane McCarron: It's there already, not deprecated, but we've never used it

14:58:09 <Steven> ... it is CDATA, and we always produce a fixed value for it

... it is CDATA, and we always produce a fixed value for it

14:58:14 <Steven> ... maybe

... maybe

14:59:27 <Steven> Shane: To remove my objection, with regard to XHTML 1.1 the spec, let us say that the version attribute is avail;able

Shane McCarron: To remove my objection, with regard to XHTML 1.1 the spec, let us say that the version attribute is available

14:59:27 <ShaneM>  The DTD implementation contains the following:  >

Shane McCarron: The DTD implementation contains the following: >

14:59:28 <ShaneM> <!ENTITY % XHTML.version  "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" >

Shane McCarron: <!ENTITY % XHTML.version "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN" >

15:00:11 <Steven> s/avail;/avail/
15:00:51 <Steven> Shane: We can use that convention

Shane McCarron: We can use that convention

15:01:17 <Steven> Steven: So we make the DOCTYPE a should, and add a note abuit version (also a SHOULD)

Steven Pemberton: So we make the DOCTYPE a should, and add a note abuit version (also a SHOULD)

15:01:32 <Steven> ACTION Shane: Add DOCTYPE stuff to XHTML 1.1

ACTION Shane: Add DOCTYPE stuff to XHTML 1.1

15:01:39 <Steven> [ADJOURN]

[ADJOURN]

15:01:45 <Zakim> -gshults

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15:01:46 <Zakim> -ShaneM.a

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15:01:47 <Zakim> -Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven

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15:01:53 <Zakim> -yamx

Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 22 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres Gerrie Shults Gregory Rosmaita John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -yamx

15:02:01 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita

Zakim IRC Bot: -Gregory_Rosmaita

15:02:26 <Steven> zakim, who is here?

zakim, who is here?

15:02:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ShaneM

15:02:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see Tina, ShaneM, yamx, gshults, RRSAgent, Zakim, oedipus, Roland, Steven, Lachy, krijn

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Tina, ShaneM, yamx, gshults, RRSAgent, Zakim, oedipus, Roland, Steven, Lachy, krijn

15:02:33 <Steven> zakim, drop Shane

zakim, drop Shane

15:02:33 <Zakim> ShaneM is being disconnected

Zakim IRC Bot: ShaneM is being disconnected

15:02:35 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:00AM has ended

15:02:37 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.858.354.aaaa, Steven, ShaneM, gshults, Gregory_Rosmaita, Roland, yamx

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.858.354.aaaa, Steven, ShaneM, gshults, Gregory_Rosmaita, Roland, yamx

15:02:39 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

15:02:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/23-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/23-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

15:03:06 <Steven> Meeting: Weekly XHTML2 Teleconference
15:03:09 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

15:03:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/23-xhtml-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/23-xhtml-minutes.html Steven



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