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13:48:30 <Roland> Zakim, list
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13:48:30 <Zakim> I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM, Team_(rifc)13:03Z, Team_W3M()8:00AM active
Zakim IRC Bot: I see WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM, Team_(rifc)13:03Z, Team_W3M()8:00AM active ←
13:48:32 <Zakim> also scheduled at this time is IA_XHTML2()9:00AM
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13:48:50 <Roland> Zakim, this is XHTML2
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13:48:50 <Zakim> Roland, I see IA_XHTML2()9:00AM in the schedule but not yet started. Perhaps you mean "this will be XHTML2".
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13:49:11 <Roland> Zakim, this will be XHTML2
Roland Merrick: Zakim, this will be XHTML2 ←
13:49:11 <Zakim> ok, Roland; I see IA_XHTML2()9:00AM scheduled to start in 11 minutes
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13:52:28 <Roland> Meeting: XHTML WG
13:52:57 <RolandM> Meeting: XHTML WG
13:53:30 <Roland> Chair: Roland Merrick
13:54:36 <Roland> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jan/0003.html
13:56:59 <RolandM> RolandM has changed the topic to: XHTML2 WG - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jan/0003.html
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13:58:51 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:00AM has now started
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13:58:58 <Zakim> +Roland
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14:01:48 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
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14:01:48 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
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14:01:50 <Zakim> -Roland
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14:01:51 <Zakim> +Roland
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14:01:52 <Zakim> +Steven
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14:02:10 <Steven> zakim, drop steven
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14:02:10 <Zakim> Steven is being disconnected
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14:02:26 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
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14:02:26 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
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14:02:27 <Zakim> +Steven
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14:02:43 <Zakim> +ShaneM
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14:03:40 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?
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14:03:40 <Zakim> the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
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14:04:30 <Zakim> + +20876aaaa
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14:04:38 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am aaaa
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14:04:38 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it
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14:04:50 <Zakim> +??P16
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14:05:16 <Steven> zakim, ??P16 is Yam
Steven Pemberton: zakim, ??P16 is Yam ←
14:05:16 <Zakim> +Yam; got it
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14:05:40 <Roland> Regrets: Rich, Tina, Gregory
14:06:08 <yamx> I joined, but I joind IRC after my call, so, I don't know how to identify me.
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14:06:28 <Steven> zakim, yam is yamx
Steven Pemberton: zakim, yam is yamx ←
14:06:28 <Zakim> +yamx; got it
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14:07:59 <Steven> Scribe: Steven
(Scribe set to Steven Pemberton)
14:08:14 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2008Jan/0003
14:08:20 <Steven> Topic: Announcements
14:08:28 <Roland> http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-access/
Roland Merrick: http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-access/ ←
14:08:33 <Steven> Roland: THe Access module went to FPWD recently
Roland Merrick: The Access module went to FPWD recently ←
14:08:40 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
14:08:57 <Steven> Roland: We have had a request to look at the selectors API
Roland Merrick: We have had a request to look at the selectors API ←
14:09:01 <Steven> ... and would like comments
... and would like comments ←
14:09:05 <Steven> ... any takers?
... any takers? ←
14:10:03 <Steven> Steven: I'm OK with looking at it, but I would think that Mark would be a good candidate
Steven Pemberton: I'm OK with looking at it, but I would think that Mark would be a good candidate ←
14:10:11 <Steven> Yam: Is it like CSS elements?
Toshihiko Yamakami: Is it like CSS elements? ←
14:10:26 <Steven> Mark: Yes, a way of selecting elements programmatically
Mark Birbeck: Yes, a way of selecting elements programmatically ←
14:10:45 <Steven> Mark: OK, I'll take a look
Mark Birbeck: OK, I'll take a look ←
14:11:12 <Steven> ACTION: Steven and Mark to review selectors API by 31 Jan 2008
ACTION: Steven and Mark to review selectors API by 31 Jan 2008 ←
14:11:23 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/selectors-api/
http://www.w3.org/TR/selectors-api/ ←
14:11:43 <Steven> Steven: Oh, it's a last call
Steven Pemberton: Oh, it's a last call ←
14:11:54 <Steven> ... so it;s a last call review
... so it's a last call review ←
14:12:00 <Steven> s/it;s/it's/
14:14:25 <Steven> Steven: While we're talking announcements, Yahoo announced that they are using XForms for their mobile widgets
Steven Pemberton: While we're talking announcements, Yahoo announced that they are using XForms for their mobile widgets ←
14:14:51 <Steven> Roland: It can lead to a discussion about namespaces for us
Roland Merrick: It can lead to a discussion about namespaces for us ←
14:15:00 <Steven> Topic: Testing XHTML Basic 1.1
14:15:08 <Steven> Roland: Yam, what is the status?
Roland Merrick: Yam, what is the status? ←
14:15:44 <Steven> Yam: Before I contacted our technical team, Steven mentioned that there was an implementation of inputmode somewhere?
Toshihiko Yamakami: Before I contacted our technical team, Steven mentioned that there was an implementation of inputmode somewhere? ←
14:15:54 <Steven> Steven: Did I? I don't remember
Steven Pemberton: Did I? I don't remember ←
14:16:25 <Steven> Shane: Yes, it was Openwave, but I haven't been able to contact anyone there
Shane McCarron: Yes, it was Openwave, but I haven't been able to contact anyone there ←
14:16:39 <Steven> Yam: Openwave have supplied their browser to [someone]
Toshihiko Yamakami: Openwave have supplied their browser to [someone] ←
14:17:07 <Steven> ... Roland: So we need an implementation of inputmode
... Roland: So we need an implementation of inputmode ←
14:17:18 <Steven> Yam: But I assume we need two implementations
Toshihiko Yamakami: But I assume we need two implementations ←
14:18:02 <Steven> Steven: Well, since it is an optional feature, we only need one working implementation, and show it works correctly
Steven Pemberton: Well, since it is an optional feature, we only need one working implementation, and show it works correctly ←
14:18:16 <Steven> ... we don't need two implementations
... we don't need two implementations ←
14:18:56 <Steven> Yam: I have provided the test report of our implementation
Toshihiko Yamakami: I have provided the test report of our implementation ←
14:20:09 <Steven> Steven: So we need to create a test report that summarises the test results, shows we have achieved our exit criteria, ans request PR transition
Steven Pemberton: So we need to create a test report that summarises the test results, shows we have achieved our exit criteria, ans request PR transition ←
14:20:32 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to bring test results of XHTML Basic 1.1 together
ACTION: Steven to bring test results of XHTML Basic 1.1 together ←
14:21:06 <Steven> Roland: What is holding us up with Modularization?
Roland Merrick: What is holding us up with Modularization? ←
14:24:08 <Steven> Steven: Well, there is some problem with a zero-length CR period, so I propose we request CR, and then talk about the length of CR during the call. I would like Roland and Shane to be on the call
Steven Pemberton: Well, there is some problem with a zero-length CR period, so I propose we request CR, and then talk about the length of CR during the call. I would like Roland and Shane to be on the call ←
14:24:17 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to organsie CR call for M12N
ACTION: Steven to organise CR call for M12N ←
14:24:37 <Steven> s/nsie/nise/
14:24:42 <ShaneM> XHTML 1.1 Second Edition is dependent on it.
Shane McCarron: XHTML 1.1 Second Edition is dependent on it. ←
14:24:50 <Steven> Topic: ARIA
14:25:04 <Steven> Roland: we'll skip this until Rich is able to be here
Roland Merrick: we'll skip this until Rich is able to be here ←
14:25:14 <Steven> Topic: RDFa on html element
14:26:43 <Steven> Shane: The current DTD doesn't allow the RDFa attributes on the html element
Shane McCarron: The current DTD doesn't allow the RDFa attributes on the html element ←
14:27:06 <Steven> Steven: I would strongly support such an addition
Steven Pemberton: I would strongly support such an addition ←
14:27:12 <Steven> Roland: Which DTD?
Roland Merrick: Which DTD? ←
14:27:26 <Steven> Steven: The XHTML 1.1+RDFa
Steven Pemberton: The XHTML 1.1+RDFa ←
14:28:14 <Steven> Shane: But this change is not in M12N 2e
Shane McCarron: But this change is not in M12N 1.1 ←
14:28:23 <Steven> ... such as class and id on the html element
... such as class and id on the html element ←
14:28:46 <Steven> ... and it is now too late to add it, siunce we are past last call
... and it is now too late to add it, siunce we are past last call ←
14:28:50 <Steven> s/2e/1.1/
14:29:12 <Steven> Shane: Do we really need it for RDFa?
Mark Birbeck: Do we really need it for RDFa? ←
14:29:21 <Steven> s/Shane/Mark/
14:29:57 <Steven> Steven: @about on the root element
Steven Pemberton: @about on the root element ←
14:30:10 <Steven> Shane: Oh wait, the prose says that id should be on the root
Shane McCarron: Oh wait, the prose says that id should be on the root ←
14:30:35 <Steven> ... so I can fix that, it is an error in the implementation
... so I can fix that, it is an error in the implementation ←
14:30:56 <Steven> ... and by the way, head doesn't take class either
... and by the way, head doesn't take class either ←
14:31:07 <Steven> Steven: Aren't they in the same collections?
Steven Pemberton: Aren't they in the same collections? ←
14:31:19 <Steven> Shane: Yes, but we don't use them on head and html
Shane McCarron: Yes, but we don't use them on head and html ←
14:32:08 <Steven> ... we use the id attribute directly
... we use the id attribute directly ←
14:32:17 <Steven> ... I will update the implementation right now
... I will update the implementation right now ←
14:32:31 <Steven> ... and make the changes in XHTML 1.1+RDFa
... and make the changes in XHTML 1.1+RDFa ←
14:33:08 <Steven> Roland: So we are happy with this change?
Roland Merrick: So we are happy with this change? ←
14:33:12 <Steven> Steven: Yes
Steven Pemberton: Yes ←
14:33:49 <Steven> Topic: Taking CURIEs to last call
14:34:16 <Steven> Steven: Not enough people to vote on it today
Steven Pemberton: Not enough people to vote on it today ←
14:35:14 <Steven> ACTION: Steven create a questionnaire to take CURIEs to last call
ACTION: Steven create a questionnaire to take CURIEs to last call ←
14:35:33 <Steven> Roland: Make it twp weeks for voting
Roland Merrick: Make it two weeks for voting ←
14:35:39 <Steven> s/twp/two/
14:35:55 <Steven> Topic: Legacy module
14:36:25 <Roland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0009
Roland Merrick: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Aug/0009 ←
14:36:45 <Steven> Shane: I suggested moving h1-6 into the legacy module for XHTML2
Shane McCarron: I suggested moving h1-6 into the legacy module for XHTML2 ←
14:36:58 <Steven> ... and then peiople started asking about the legacy module
... and then people started asking about the legacy module ←
14:37:57 <Roland> s/peiople/people/
14:38:05 <Steven> Steven: It's a sort of hotchpotch
Steven Pemberton: It's a sort of hotchpotch ←
14:38:19 <Steven> Roland: We should clean it up and treat it seriously for M12N 2
Roland Merrick: We should clean it up and treat it seriously for M12N 2 ←
14:39:39 <Steven> Steven: It might be a set of legacy modules, not just one
Steven Pemberton: It might be a set of legacy modules, not just one ←
14:40:12 <Steven> ... since someone might want to use h1-6 but not applet
... since someone might want to use h1-6 but not applet ←
14:40:33 <Steven> SHane: THen let's not call it 'legacy' module, but give it a name and mark it deprecated
Shane McCarron: Then let's not call it 'legacy' module, but give it a name and mark it deprecated ←
14:40:35 <Steven> Steven: Good
Steven Pemberton: Good ←
14:40:40 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
14:40:45 <Steven> s/SH/Sh/
14:41:16 <Steven> Steven: Dates for FtF?
Steven Pemberton: Dates for FtF? ←
14:41:23 <Steven> Roland: Feb 18-20
Roland Merrick: Feb 18-20 ←
14:41:51 <Steven> Steven: Feb 19 is my birthday, so we'll have to party that evening!
Steven Pemberton: Feb 19 is my birthday, so we'll have to party that evening! ←
14:42:02 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to create FtF page
ACTION: Steven to create FtF page ←
14:42:25 <Steven> Topic: Fix missing elements in M12N
14:42:33 <Steven> Shane: I was wrong, that is fine
Shane McCarron: I was wrong, that is fine ←
14:42:48 <Steven> Topic: add inputmode to XHTML 1.1 2e
14:43:00 <Steven> Steven: Sound like a good idea
Steven Pemberton: Sounds like a good idea ←
14:43:08 <Steven> s/ound/ounds/
14:43:21 <Steven> Steven: Mostly harmless
Steven Pemberton: Mostly harmless ←
14:43:28 <Steven> Shane: Not sure how we do it editorially
Shane McCarron: Not sure how we do it editorially ←
14:43:46 <Steven> ... since inputmode is a module in Basic 1.1
... since inputmode is a module in Basic 1.1 ←
14:44:09 <Steven> Steven: It's not in M12N 1.1?
Steven Pemberton: It's not in M12N 1.1? ←
14:44:13 <Steven> Shane: Of course not
Shane McCarron: Of course not ←
14:44:48 <Steven> Steven: That would mean we have inputmode in three places
Steven Pemberton: That would mean we have inputmode in three places ←
14:45:10 <Steven> Shane: It's not a problem to reference the module in Basic
Shane McCarron: It's not a problem to reference the module in Basic ←
14:45:16 <Steven> Steven: OK, then let's do that
Steven Pemberton: OK, then let's do that ←
14:47:18 <Steven> Roland: Is there value to making a separate document?
Roland Merrick: Is there value to making a separate document? ←
14:47:50 <Steven> Steven: We have three languages that uses it now, so there is a vbalue, but it is not hard to reference it from the Basic spec
Steven Pemberton: We have three languages that uses it now, so there is a vbalue, but it is not hard to reference it from the Basic spec ←
14:47:55 <Steven> Shane: Is it in XHTML2
Shane McCarron: Is it in XHTML2 ←
14:48:04 <Steven> Steven: Yes, as part of XForms
Steven Pemberton: Yes, as part of XForms ←
14:48:11 <Steven> Roalnd: Which namespace?
Roland Merrick: Which namespace? ←
14:48:18 <Steven> Steven: Not yet resolved by us
Steven Pemberton: Not yet resolved by us ←
14:48:35 <Steven> s/Roal/Rola/
14:49:04 <Steven> Steven: Action?
Steven Pemberton: Action? ←
14:49:08 <Steven> Roland: It is already there
Roland Merrick: It is already there ←
14:49:39 <Roland> Existing action on Shane to add to XHTML 1.1 SE : http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-minutes.html#action01
Roland Merrick: Existing action on Shane to add to XHTML 1.1 SE : ACTION-01">http://www.w3.org/2007/07/18-xhtml-minutes.html#ACTION-01 ←
14:50:15 <Steven> Topic: CURIE issues - datatype etc
14:50:30 <Roland> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2007Mar/0038.html
Roland Merrick: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2007Mar/0038.html ←
14:51:42 <Steven> Roland: What is the value space od CURIE?
Roland Merrick: What is the value space of CURIE? ←
14:51:46 <Steven> Steven: URI
Steven Pemberton: URI ←
14:51:53 <Steven> s/od/of/
14:52:40 <Steven> Shane: Disagree
Shane McCarron: Disagree ←
14:53:18 <Steven> Mark: If you compared x;a and y:a and x and y were the same mappings, would they be equal or not?
Mark Birbeck: If you compared x:a and y:a and x and y were the same mappings, would they be equal or not? ←
14:53:29 <Steven> Shane: I think they are not equal
Shane McCarron: I think they are not equal ←
14:53:40 <Steven> Steven: I think they should be equal
Steven Pemberton: I think they should be equal ←
14:53:58 <Steven> s/x;a/x:a/
14:54:19 <Steven> Shane: I don't think they are compact URIs but scoped names
Shane McCarron: I don't think they are compact URIs but scoped names ←
14:54:53 <Steven> Mark: In sparql for instance they are compact URIs
Mark Birbeck: In sparql for instance they are compact URIs ←
14:55:21 <Steven> Present+Christina
Present+Christina ←
14:55:27 <Steven> Chair: Roland
14:56:31 <markbirbeck> Mark: They *must* be expanded.
Mark Birbeck: They *must* be expanded. [ Scribe Assist by Mark Birbeck ] ←
14:57:58 <Steven> Shane: When looking something up you get it from the DOM and look it up as prefix+extension
Shane McCarron: When looking something up you get it from the DOM and look it up as prefix+extension ←
14:58:23 <Steven> Mark: I disagree, you must expand it, because for instance ARIA uses the RDF processing
Mark Birbeck: I disagree, you must expand it, because for instance ARIA uses the RDF processing ←
14:58:33 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:58:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
14:59:08 <Steven> rrsagent, make log public
rrsagent, make log public ←
15:00:18 <Steven> Shane: Today if I use IE 7, a CURIE doesn't get expanded
Shane McCarron: Today if I use IE 7, a CURIE doesn't get expanded ←
15:00:32 <Steven> Mark: That's an implementation issue
Mark Birbeck: That's an implementation issue ←
15:01:18 <Steven> ... so doesn't affect the answer to the question "what is the value space of a CURIE"
... so doesn't affect the answer to the question "what is the value space of a CURIE" ←
15:01:52 <Steven> Shane: If I say "get elements by role name" what should I use?
Shane McCarron: If I say "get elements by role name" what should I use? ←
15:02:06 <Steven> Mark: It should be the expanded name
Mark Birbeck: It should be the expanded name ←
15:03:10 <Steven> ... it is not enough to search for "x:a"
... it is not enough to search for "x:a" ←
15:03:22 <Steven> Steven: Since you don't know what prefixes people have used
Steven Pemberton: Since you don't know what prefixes people have used ←
15:04:38 <Steven> ... if someone produces a script library, they won't know which prefixes you have used
... if someone produces a script library, they won't know which prefixes you have used ←
15:05:01 <Steven> Mark: You are searching for a full URI
Mark: You are searching for a full URI ←
15:05:06 <Steven> Roland: We are over time
Roland Merrick: We are over time ←
15:05:13 <Steven> ... let's try and resolve it via email
... let's try and resolve it via email ←
15:05:19 <Steven> ... who will start the thread
... who will start the thread? ←
15:05:26 <Steven> s/thread/thread?/
15:05:38 <Steven> SHane: Everyone seems to disagree with me, so I think we are done
Shane McCarron: Everyone seems to disagree with me, so I think we are done ←
15:05:44 <Steven> ... the value space is a URI
... the value space is a URI ←
15:05:47 <Steven> s/SH
s/SH ←
15:06:04 <Steven> RESOLVED: the value space of a CURIE is URI
RESOLVED: the value space of a CURIE is URI ←
15:07:04 <Steven> ACTION: Mark to reply to value space of CURIE email
ACTION: Mark to reply to value space of CURIE email ←
15:07:13 <Steven> Shane: is it IRI or URI?
Shane McCarron: is it IRI or URI? ←
15:07:37 <Steven> Steven: URI I think, since I believe that IRI is a lexical dataspace, whose vlaue space is URI
Steven Pemberton: URI I think, since I believe that IRI is a lexical dataspace, whose value space is URI ←
15:07:46 <Steven> s/vla/val/
15:08:03 <Steven> Mark: Looking at the mail, it looks like we have to discuss further
Mark Birbeck: Looking at the mail, it looks like we have to discuss further ←
15:08:49 <Steven> Roland: We should look at the other iussues so we can go to last call
Roland Merrick: We should look at the other issues so we can go to last call ←
15:09:10 <Steven> ... so we can't decide to go to last call yet
... so we can't decide to go to last call yet ←
15:09:16 <Steven> s/iuss/iss/
15:09:25 <Zakim> -ShaneM
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15:09:30 <Zakim> -Roland
Zakim IRC Bot: -Roland ←
15:09:47 <Zakim> -markbirbeck
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15:09:48 <ShaneM> I think that there might be some value in preserving the expanded prefix separate from the reference in the CURIE value space
Shane McCarron: I think that there might be some value in preserving the expanded prefix separate from the reference in the CURIE value space ←
15:09:49 <Zakim> -Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←
15:09:51 <Zakim> -yamx
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15:09:52 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:00AM has ended
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15:09:53 <Zakim> Attendees were Roland, Steven, ShaneM, +20876aaaa, markbirbeck, yamx
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15:10:09 <ShaneM> it would make it easier to search for, for example, all elements that have a role in a specific value space
Shane McCarron: it would make it easier to search for, for example, all elements that have a role in a specific value space ←
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15:11:05 <markbirbeck> Mark: Ah...the original question points to an answer that is somewhere in between Shane's view and Mark/Steven's view. Peter Johnston says that if CURIEs are to be a superset of QNames then the two parts (prefix and suffix) must be preserved.
Mark Birbeck: Ah...the original question points to an answer that is somewhere in between Shane's view and Mark/Steven's view. Peter Johnston says that if CURIEs are to be a superset of QNames then the two parts (prefix and suffix) must be preserved. [ Scribe Assist by Mark Birbeck ] ←
15:11:44 <ShaneM> as you say Mark, implementation detail. But I can see some value in it
Shane McCarron: as you say Mark, implementation detail. But I can see some value in it ←
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15:12:01 <Steven> That's what QNames do, but QNames have a tighter syntax than CURIES
That's what QNames do, but QNames have a tighter syntax than CURIES ←
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15:12:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/01/09-xhtml-minutes.html Roland
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15:12:25 <Steven> You are allowed to split a CURIE in different places and stiull have the same value
You are allowed to split a CURIE in different places and stiull have the same value ←
15:12:46 <markbirbeck> Interesting idea Shane...do you think we should support @accessrole="wai:*"? :)
Mark Birbeck: Interesting idea Shane...do you think we should support @accessrole="wai:*"? :) ←
15:13:00 <markbirbeck> (Your previous point......)
Mark Birbeck: (Your previous point......) ←
15:13:36 <markbirbeck> Steven--comparison would still require combining the two parts.
Mark Birbeck: Steven--comparison would still require combining the two parts. ←
15:13:43 <Steven> s/SHane/Shane/G
15:14:05 <ShaneM> technically speaking, a CURIE prefix could be "" and the reference could be a complete URI. Not sure what that means tho.
Shane McCarron: technically speaking, a CURIE prefix could be "" and the reference could be a complete URI. Not sure what that means tho. ←
15:14:59 <ShaneM> Actually, given that a prefix can be anything preserving it has little value. It is only a complete URI *or* the original unexpanded value that will be meaningful for any processor imho. portably anyway.
Shane McCarron: Actually, given that a prefix can be anything preserving it has little value. It is only a complete URI *or* the original unexpanded value that will be meaningful for any processor imho. portably anyway. ←
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