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XHTML WG Call

Minutes of 12 December 2007

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Dec/0009.html
Seen
Mark Birbeck, Richard Schwerdtfeger, Roland Merrick, Shane McCarron, Steven Pemberton, Toshihiko Yamakami, Unknown Gregory_Rosmaita, Unknown oedipus
Regrets
Toshihiko Yamakami, Steven Pemberton
Chair
Roland Merrick
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. allow role to be chameleon (http://www.w3.org/2007/11/09-xhtml-minutes.html#item01) link
Topics

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14:01:31 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/12/12-xhtml-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/12/12-xhtml-irc

14:02:03 <ShaneM>  zakim, meeting is xhtml wg

Shane McCarron: zakim, meeting is xhtml wg

14:02:03 <Zakim> I don't understand 'meeting is xhtml wg', ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'meeting is xhtml wg', ShaneM

14:02:12 <ShaneM>  zakim, this is xhtml wg

Shane McCarron: zakim, this is xhtml wg

14:02:12 <Zakim> sorry, ShaneM, I do not see a conference named 'xhtml wg' in progress or scheduled at this time

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, ShaneM, I do not see a conference named 'xhtml wg' in progress or scheduled at this time

14:02:20 <ShaneM>  zakim, this is xhtml 2 wg

Shane McCarron: zakim, this is xhtml 2 wg

14:02:20 <Zakim> sorry, ShaneM, I do not see a conference named 'xhtml 2 wg' in progress or scheduled at this time

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, ShaneM, I do not see a conference named 'xhtml 2 wg' in progress or scheduled at this time

14:02:22 <ShaneM>  whatever

Shane McCarron: whatever

14:02:38 <Roland> Meeting: XHTML WG Call
14:02:48 <ShaneM>  yeah - but zakim wasn't on the channel yet

Shane McCarron: yeah - but zakim wasn't on the channel yet

14:03:27 <oedipus> ah - i should stick to my own systems' problems

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Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 20 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown oedipus: ah - i should stick to my own systems' problems

14:04:04 <Roland> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Dec/0009.html
14:04:52 <Roland> Chair: Roland
14:06:24 <Roland> Zakim, list

Roland Merrick: Zakim, list

14:06:24 <Zakim> I see Team_W3M()8:00AM, WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM, IA_XHTML2()9:00AM, I18N_TS()9:00AM active and no others scheduled to start in the next 15 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: I see Team_W3M()8:00AM, WAI_ERTWG()8:30AM, IA_XHTML2()9:00AM, I18N_TS()9:00AM active and no others scheduled to start in the next 15 minutes

14:06:44 <ShaneM>  zakim, this is XHTML2

Shane McCarron: zakim, this is XHTML2

14:06:44 <Zakim> ok, ShaneM; that matches IA_XHTML2()9:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ShaneM; that matches IA_XHTML2()9:00AM

14:06:52 <markbirbeck> Hello all. I am sending my apologies, because if I don't get my changes to the RDFa draft finished in the next couple of hours, I won't be able to do anything with them until late on tomorrow.

Mark Birbeck: Hello all. I am sending my apologies, because if I don't get my changes to the RDFa draft finished in the next couple of hours, I won't be able to do anything with them until late on tomorrow.

14:07:14 <Zakim> +[IBM]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IBM]

14:07:16 <markbirbeck> I'll stay on IM though, in case there is anything I can help with.

Mark Birbeck: I'll stay on IM though, in case there is anything I can help with.

14:07:54 <Roland> Zakim, who is here?

Roland Merrick: Zakim, who is here?

14:07:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P11, +1.763.767.aaaa, Gregory_Rosmaita, [IBM]

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P11, +1.763.767.aaaa, Gregory_Rosmaita, [IBM]

14:07:56 <Zakim> On IRC I see Lachy, Rich, Zakim, markbirbeck, RRSAgent, ShaneM, oedipus, Roland, myakura, krijnh

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Lachy, Rich, Zakim, markbirbeck, RRSAgent, ShaneM, oedipus, Roland, myakura, krijnh

14:09:28 <ShaneM>  scribe: ShaneM

Shane McCarron: scribe: ShaneM

14:09:34 <Roland> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Dec/0009.html
14:09:55 <ShaneM>  regrets: yam, steven, alessio

Shane McCarron: regrets: yam, steven, alessio

14:10:02 <Roland> Regrets: Yam, Steven
14:10:28 <ShaneM>  topic: curie syntax

Shane McCarron: topic: curie syntax

14:10:58 <ShaneM>  dont have a quorum to resolve to publish it.  Roland suggests that we poll via e-mail.

Shane McCarron: dont have a quorum to resolve to publish it. Roland suggests that we poll via e-mail.

14:11:11 <ShaneM>  no one on the call has a problem taking it to last call.

Shane McCarron: no one on the call has a problem taking it to last call.

14:11:18 <ShaneM>  RESOLVED:  Those of us on the call are happy.

Shane McCarron: RESOLVED: Those of us on the call are happy.

14:11:32 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Roland will send an email poll out to get us to last call on CURIEs.

Shane McCarron: ACTION: Roland will send an email poll out to get us to last call on CURIEs.

14:12:03 <ShaneM>  topic: XHTML basic testing

Shane McCarron: topic: XHTML basic testing

14:12:19 <ShaneM>  Yam is not here, but he has sent a report to Steven.  We need to get Steven to deal with it.

Shane McCarron: Yam is not here, but he has sent a report to Steven. We need to get Steven to deal with it.

14:12:47 <Roland> Topic: a role for object - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Nov/0015

1. a role for object - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Nov/0015

14:13:24 <ShaneM>  topic: @role on object element

Shane McCarron: topic: @role on object element

14:13:44 <ShaneM>  the role attribute is on everything, so it is already on object.

Shane McCarron: the role attribute is on everything, so it is already on object.

14:14:33 <ShaneM>  One reason alession wants this is to help improve content negotiation in objects.

Shane McCarron: One reason alession wants this is to help improve content negotiation in objects.

14:14:53 <ShaneM>  s/alession/alessio/

Shane McCarron: s/alession/alessio/

14:15:13 <ShaneM>  Rich: are they asking that we extend our collection of XHTML values?

Shane McCarron: Rich: are they asking that we extend our collection of XHTML values?

14:16:00 <ShaneM>  Rich: Its improtant that we remember our existing values are about document sections.

Shane McCarron: Rich: Its improtant that we remember our existing values are about document sections.

14:16:24 <ShaneM>  Rich: The values listed here are sort of a random selection.  If we are going to look at this we should do a comprehensive stufy.

Shane McCarron: Rich: The values listed here are sort of a random selection. If we are going to look at this we should do a comprehensive stufy.

14:16:46 <ShaneM>  Gregory: Alessio is really asking if this is something he should investigate further

Shane McCarron: Gregory: Alessio is really asking if this is something he should investigate further

14:17:37 <ShaneM>  Rich: is this really something that the XHTML 2 Working Group should be defining

Shane McCarron: Rich: is this really something that the XHTML 2 Working Group should be defining

14:18:04 <ShaneM>  Roland: Not a big fan of object.  Seems a bit of a bucket.

Shane McCarron: Roland: Not a big fan of object. Seems a bit of a bucket.

14:18:43 <ShaneM>  Roland: might be useful to learn from the work that HTML 5 people are doing.

Shane McCarron: Roland: might be useful to learn from the work that HTML 5 people are doing.

14:19:49 <ShaneM>  Rich: would need to spend a lot more time on this to do it justice.

Shane McCarron: Rich: would need to spend a lot more time on this to do it justice.

14:20:40 <Roland> Topic: CURIE Comments

2. CURIE Comments

14:20:41 <ShaneM>  Topic:  CURIE comments

Shane McCarron: Topic: CURIE comments

14:21:14 <ShaneM>  There are no outstanding comments.

Shane McCarron: There are no outstanding comments.

14:21:27 <ShaneM>  Topic: Role last call issues

Shane McCarron: Topic: Role last call issues

14:22:40 <oedipus> rich: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xhtml2-issues/Role?user=guest;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1

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Richard Schwerdtfeger: http://htmlwg.mn.aptest.com/cgi-bin/xhtml2-issues/Role?user=guest;statetype=-1;upostype=-1;changetype=-1;restype=-1 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown oedipus ]

14:22:59 <ShaneM>  There are 10 open issues

Shane McCarron: There are 10 open issues

14:25:43 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/2007/11/09-xhtml-minutes.html#item01

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Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 20 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown oedipus: http://www.w3.org/2007/11/09-xhtml-minutes.html#item01

14:26:58 <oedipus> RESOLUTION: allow role to be chameleon (http://www.w3.org/2007/11/09-xhtml-minutes.html#item01)

RESOLVED: allow role to be chameleon (http://www.w3.org/2007/11/09-xhtml-minutes.html#item01)

14:27:58 <ShaneM>  Issue 8017 - what should a user agent do when looking at multiple role values on an element

Shane McCarron: ISSUE-8017 - what should a user agent do when looking at multiple role values on an element

14:28:08 <oedipus> "allow role to be chameleon" is the only item noted as resolved in f2f minutes

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Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 20 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown oedipus: "allow role to be chameleon" is the only item noted as resolved in f2f minutes

14:28:25 <ShaneM>  Rich:  browser vendors are going to use the first one they recognize for navigation...

Shane McCarron: Rich: browser vendors are going to use the first one they recognize for navigation...

14:29:20 <ShaneM>  Rich:  There might be an extension mechanism for this in ARIA in the future.  Role is also used in middle ware, so it is not about the user agent all the time.

Shane McCarron: Rich: There might be an extension mechanism for this in ARIA in the future. Role is also used in middle ware, so it is not about the user agent all the time.

14:30:17 <ShaneM>  soemthing like this: The role attribute specification does not require any behavior by user agents.  So the interpretation of values by user agents is outside the scope of this specification.

Shane McCarron: soemthing like this: The role attribute specification does not require any behavior by user agents. So the interpretation of values by user agents is outside the scope of this specification.

14:30:33 <ShaneM>  s/soemthing/something/

Shane McCarron: s/soemthing/something/

14:31:05 <Zakim> -[IBM]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[IBM]

14:32:19 <ShaneM>  Issue 8019 - do not use CURIEs for role values

Shane McCarron: ISSUE-8019 - do not use CURIEs for role values

14:33:51 <ShaneM>  scoped values are an extension mechanism, and we need some mechanism for ready extension of roles.  If CURIEs don't work out, we will have to consider other mechanisms, and full URIs are worthy of consideration.

Shane McCarron: scoped values are an extension mechanism, and we need some mechanism for ready extension of roles. If CURIEs don't work out, we will have to consider other mechanisms, and full URIs are worthy of consideration.

14:34:31 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Send formal reply to 8019

Shane McCarron: ACTION: Send formal reply to 8019

14:35:04 <ShaneM>  ensure the submitter knows that the CURIE spec is separate and will be referenced by role in its next draft.

Shane McCarron: ensure the submitter knows that the CURIE spec is separate and will be referenced by role in its next draft.

14:35:29 <oedipus> "I wonder in which namespace that non-qualified role values are interpreted."  "we'll have hard time finding which one's the namespace or which one's the Class identifier"

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Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 20 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown oedipus: "I wonder in which namespace that non-qualified role values are interpreted." "we'll have hard time finding which one's the namespace or which one's the Class identifier"

14:36:49 <ShaneM>  issue 8020: shane will deal with

Shane McCarron: ISSUE-8020: shane will deal with

14:36:53 <ShaneM>  issue 8021: editorial

Shane McCarron: ISSUE-8021: editorial

14:37:06 <ShaneM>  issue 8023:  al gilman's comments

Shane McCarron: ISSUE-8023: al gilman's comments

14:39:10 <ShaneM>  Issues 1 and 2 are dealt with via chameleon namespacing.

Shane McCarron: Issues 1 and 2 are dealt with via chameleon namespacing.

14:39:27 <ShaneM>  Issue 3 has been closed through negotiation.

Shane McCarron: ISSUE-3 has been closed through negotiation.

14:39:46 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Gregory to respond to issue 8023 formally so we have closure.

Shane McCarron: ACTION: Gregory to respond to ISSUE-8023 formally so we have closure.

14:40:42 <ShaneM>  issue 8042:

Shane McCarron: ISSUE-8042:

14:44:32 <ShaneM>  s/8042/8024/

Shane McCarron: s/8042/8024/

14:45:09 <ShaneM>  There is an issue about CURIEs and how they behave when there are errors.  That should be split out into a separate issue.

Shane McCarron: There is an issue about CURIEs and how they behave when there are errors. That should be split out into a separate issue.

14:45:17 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Shane to split 8024 into two issues.

Shane McCarron: ACTION: Shane to split 8024 into two issues.

14:47:15 <ShaneM>  CURIE spec does not deal with the issue of what happens when CURIEs are broken.

Shane McCarron: CURIE spec does not deal with the issue of what happens when CURIEs are broken.

14:48:00 <ShaneM>  Editorial comments in the issue are valid, and will be addressed.

Shane McCarron: Editorial comments in the issue are valid, and will be addressed.

14:48:16 <oedipus> quote from PF telecon meeting 26 November 2007 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2007OctDec/0224.html): AlGilman: "AG: tell XHTML2 WG not to worry about title as predefined role, PF will do it"

Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 20 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 20 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown oedipus: quote from PF telecon meeting 26 November 2007 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2007OctDec/0224.html): AlGilman: "AG: tell XHTML2 WG not to worry about title as predefined role, PF will do it"

14:49:20 <ShaneM>  Issue 8025:

Shane McCarron: ISSUE-8025:

14:49:51 <ShaneM>  comments on the DTD implementation.  agreed.  will fix.

Shane McCarron: comments on the DTD implementation. agreed. will fix.

14:50:57 <ShaneM>  Issue 8026:

Shane McCarron: ISSUE-8026:

14:51:04 <ShaneM>  removing CURIE defintiion from role.... sure.

Shane McCarron: removing CURIE defintiion from role.... sure.

14:51:29 <ShaneM>  comment 2 - overcome by events

Shane McCarron: comment 2 - overcome by events

14:51:47 <oedipus> take-away comment: "Given that all prefix expansion is seem aligned with in-scope namespace decls,  I'd expect the defaulting to be similarly aligned. Also, given the potentially generic nature of CURIEs as a construct in other languages, I would rather its defaulting was not bound to the the XHTML namespace"

Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 20 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'oedipus' does not match any of the 20 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Christina Bottomley Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown oedipus: take-away comment: "Given that all prefix expansion is seem aligned with in-scope namespace decls, I'd expect the defaulting to be similarly aligned. Also, given the potentially generic nature of CURIEs as a construct in other languages, I would rather its defaulting was not bound to the the XHTML namespace"

14:52:16 <ShaneM>  comment 3 - define a schema datatype for URIorCURIE.  will do.

Shane McCarron: comment 3 - define a schema datatype for URIorCURIE. will do.

14:53:56 <ShaneM>  roland: we should include the schema implementation; possibly as non-normative for now

Shane McCarron: roland: we should include the schema implementation; possibly as non-normative for now

14:54:10 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Shane to add a non-normative schema implementation to CURIE spec

Shane McCarron: ACTION: Shane to add a non-normative schema implementation to CURIE spec

14:54:30 <ShaneM>  issue 4 - correct, the definitions of CURIE were inconsistent and the one in rdfa-syntax is the right one.  Overcome by events.

Shane McCarron: ISSUE-4 - correct, the definitions of CURIE were inconsistent and the one in rdfa-syntax is the right one. Overcome by events.

14:55:58 <ShaneM>  issue 5:  the default is not in the xhtml vocab space for CURIEs generically, just with regard to the role attribute when used in the XHTML namespace.

Shane McCarron: ISSUE-5: the default is not in the xhtml vocab space for CURIEs generically, just with regard to the role attribute when used in the XHTML namespace.

14:57:11 <ShaneM>  issue 8027: agreed to allow chameleon

Shane McCarron: ISSUE-8027: agreed to allow chameleon

14:57:51 <ShaneM>  issue 8028: tag comment about curies.  We have said the comment is not in scope because it is about CURIEs, not about how @role uses CURIEs.

Shane McCarron: ISSUE-8028: tag comment about curies. We have said the comment is not in scope because it is about CURIEs, not about how @role uses CURIEs.

15:01:52 <Zakim> -??P11

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P11

15:01:53 <Zakim> - +1.763.767.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.763.767.aaaa

15:01:54 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Gregory_Rosmaita

15:01:57 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()9:00AM has ended

15:01:58 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.763.767.aaaa, Gregory_Rosmaita, [IBM]

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.763.767.aaaa, Gregory_Rosmaita, [IBM]

15:04:02 <Roland> rrsagent, make minutes

Roland Merrick: rrsagent, make minutes

15:04:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/12-xhtml-minutes.html Roland

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/12-xhtml-minutes.html Roland

15:05:00 <Roland> zakim, aaaa is roland

Roland Merrick: zakim, aaaa is roland

15:05:00 <Zakim> sorry, Roland, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Roland, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'

15:05:22 <Roland> zakim, +1.763.767.aaaa is roland

Roland Merrick: zakim, +1.763.767.aaaa is roland

15:05:22 <Zakim> sorry, Roland, I do not recognize a party named '+1.763.767.aaaa'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Roland, I do not recognize a party named '+1.763.767.aaaa'

15:08:00 <Roland> rrsagent, make log public

Roland Merrick: rrsagent, make log public



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