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Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; I see IA_XHTML2()10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes ←

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Tina, alessio, ShaneM, oedipus, krijn, Lachy, Steven, markbirbeck ←

Shane McCarron: Action Items: Alessio completed is survey of browsers and access element ←

Shane McCarron: ACTION: Tina to review the xhtml-role document and send in comments. ←

Shane McCarron: Draft says: The role attribute takes as its value one or more white-space separated QNames. Any non-qualified value MUST be interpreted in the XHTML namespace, and MUST be taken from the list defined in this section. ←

Shane McCarron: Mark is psuggesting we should preclude the interpretation of non-prefixed values that are NOT in our list. They should be ignored. ←

Shane McCarron: Schema AND DTD implementation can define only the valuies in the list ←

Shane McCarron: Mark points out that we may need to permit the collection to be extended in the context of another host language. ←

Shane McCarron: Mark suggests that we NOT restrict the collection of non-qualified values. That we just say this set may be extended in the future. ←

Shane McCarron: Rich asks if this change would require that we prefix xhtml namespace values at the source level. No. ←

Shane McCarron: Are there additional role values that SHOULD be included in this specification before we go to last call? (e.g. copyright) or should we rely upon existing taxonomies (e.g., dc:copyright) ←

Shane McCarron: If there are additional values that are needed in the context of other specifications (e.g., HTML5) then we should find a way to put them in. ←

Shane McCarron: ACTION: Shane to add text to ensure it is clear that the list is extensible in the XHTML namespace if other groups need it. ←

Unknown oedipus: need something formal for HTML WG - i have repeatedly pointed the WG to the WAI PF document on Embedding Role and State Metadata in HTML Documents, but no one's bitten ←

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for 'steven' (internally: "(?i)steven") ←

Shane McCarron: Tina says what we have a nice small set that is easy to implement. We need to be careful to only extend it in limited, well thought out ways. ←

Shane McCarron: ACTION: Shane to set up last call for xhtml-role by 15 June. ←

Shane McCarron: Nice thing is that curies are a superset of qnames, so we can "upgrade" later. ←

Shane McCarron: the inputmode was NOT tested. inputmode is just a hint to the user agent. testing guidelines in OMA do not have people testing "hints" because they are not really required. ←

Shane McCarron: the question is: is inputmode interoperability testing required for getting basic out the door? ←

Shane McCarron: ACTION: Shane to figure out if a "hint" is an interoperbility requirement. ←

Shane McCarron: Mark reports some discussions about the @href everywhere debate and how it is progressing ←

Shane McCarron: Current thinking is that we re-introduce the @resource attribute, and can use that to identify a URI. In the context of a host language, @href can duplicate / extend the functionality. ←

Shane McCarron: Editorially, we need to have the xhtml-rdfa document be RDFa in an XHTML context. And then a separate spec (the RDFa syntax document) needs to be updated so it is host-language neutral. ←

Shane McCarron: Mark thinks that it specifies the processing rules. So to that end it must be normative. So it must be rec-track. ←

Shane McCarron: ACTION: Steven to integrate the RDFa syntax document into the XHTML WG publication system. ←

Steven Pemberton: The problem with integration is that it is in XMLSPEC at the moment ←

Shane McCarron: Rich asked about events: Triggering an access key defined in an access element gives focus to the next element in navigation order from the current focus that has the referenced role or id value. Note that it is possible to associate additional event handlers with target which might then perform additional actions once focus is changed. ←

Shane McCarron: Rich is concerned that we might want to have an access element take an explicit attribute for specifying action (default is focus, but maybe they want to specify activate) ←

Unknown oedipus: +1 to RichS - need to play audio triggered by assistive technology encountering cue-before, cue-after, play-during, etc. -- the purely aural canvas; the AT has to trigger the event, and the UA needs to use its default backplane audio renderer ←

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were ShaneM, Tina, Gregory_Rosmaita, alessio, Mark_Birbeck ←

Unknown oedipus: i was just preparing to send the URI to the XHTML2 emailing list ←

Unknown oedipus: steven, i have posted the URI to the list (public-xhtml2@w3.org ←

Unknown oedipus: that's how i set the access since our emailing list is public ←

ACTION: Items to Alessio completed is survey of browsers and access element [1] ←

ACTION: Tina to review the xhtml-role document and send in comments. [2] ←

ACTION: Shane to add text to ensure it is clear that the list is extensible in the XHTML namespace if other groups need it. [3] ←

ACTION: Shane to figure out if a "hint" is an interoperbility requirement. [5] ←

ACTION: Steven to integrate the RDFa syntax document into the XHTML WG publication system. [6] ←

Weekly XHTML2 WG Teleconference

Minutes of 06 June 2007