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SPARQL Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 28 June 2011

Seen
Alexandre Passant, Andy Seaborne, Axel Polleres, Carlos Buil Aranda, Chimezie Ogbuji, Gregory Williams, Lee Feigenbaum, Matthew Perry, Nicholas Humfrey, Olivier Corby, Paula Gearon, Steve Harris
Regrets
Axel Polleres, Alexandre Passant, Paula Gearon
Chair
Lee Feigenbaum
Scribe
Nicholas Humfrey
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Accept last week's minutes from http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-06-21 link
Topics
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13:54:28 <LeeF> zakim, this will be SPARQL

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13:54:29 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
13:54:29 <trackbot> Date: 28 June 2011
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13:56:56 <Zakim> Attendees were

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13:57:21 <kasei> heh

Gregory Williams: heh

13:57:48 <SteveH> well, that was a quick call, see you all next week :)

Steve Harris: well, that was a quick call, see you all next week :)

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13:58:30 <Zakim> +kasei

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13:59:27 <Zakim> +??P6

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13:59:33 <cbuilara> zakim, ??P6 is me

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13:59:33 <Zakim> +cbuilara; got it

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13:59:39 <Zakim> +caro

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13:59:57 <Zakim> +LeeF

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14:00:11 <Zakim> + +44.189.583.aaaa

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14:00:13 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone?

14:00:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see kasei, cbuilara, caro, LeeF, +44.189.583.aaaa

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14:00:38 <NickH> Zakim, +44.189.583.aaaa is me

Nicholas Humfrey: Zakim, +44.189.583.aaaa is me

14:00:38 <Zakim> +NickH; got it

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14:00:44 <NickH> me!

Nicholas Humfrey: me!

14:00:48 <Olivier> Olivier is on the phone

Olivier Corby: Olivier is on the phone

14:00:50 <Zakim> +??P14

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14:00:56 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P14 is me

Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P14 is me

14:00:57 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it

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14:00:59 <LeeF> zakim, caro is Olivier

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, caro is Olivier

14:01:00 <Zakim> +Olivier; got it

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14:01:16 <LeeF> Regrets: Axel, Alex, Paul
14:01:50 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone?

14:01:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see kasei, cbuilara, Olivier, LeeF, NickH, SteveH

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14:02:05 <NickH> sure

Nicholas Humfrey: sure

14:02:11 <LeeF> scribenick: NickH

(Scribe set to Nicholas Humfrey)

14:02:16 <LeeF> Chair: LeeF
14:02:21 <Zakim> +??P21

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14:02:30 <AndyS> zakim, ??P21 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P21 is me

14:02:30 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

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14:03:27 <LeeF> topic: Admin

1. Admin

14:03:33 <LeeF> PROPOSED: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-06-21

PROPOSED: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-06-21

14:04:22 <NickH> LeeF: most of our time last week was spent talking about the RDF-WG decision on the literal datatype

Lee Feigenbaum: most of our time last week was spent talking about the RDF-WG decision on the literal datatype

14:04:46 <LeeF> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes from http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-06-21

RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes from http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2011-06-21

14:04:49 <AndyS> Mins Look OK to me

Andy Seaborne: Mins Look OK to me

14:05:21 <NickH> LeeF: we have a couple of acknowledgents to comment responses

Lee Feigenbaum: we have a couple of acknowledgents to comment responses

14:05:52 <NickH> LeeF: did carlo is the comment about a typo

Lee Feigenbaum: did carlo is the comment about a typo

14:05:58 <NickH> carlo: yes

Carlos Buil Aranda: yes

14:06:10 <kasei> still waiting on approval to send out RV-5

Gregory Williams: still waiting on approval to send out RV-5

14:06:24 <NickH> LeeF: two new comments

Lee Feigenbaum: two new comments

14:07:35 <AndyS> IH-2 is minor and will get done sometime.  OWL-Semantics ==> OWL 2 Semantics

Andy Seaborne: IH-2 is minor and will get done sometime. OWL-Semantics ==> OWL 2 Semantics

14:07:36 <NickH> LeeF: first is comment NL-1

Lee Feigenbaum: first is comment NL-1

14:07:40 <LeeF> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Jun/0014.html

Lee Feigenbaum: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2011Jun/0014.html

14:09:23 <NickH> LeeF: when we were doing the shortcuts for SPARQL Update, you can leave out the template from the CONSTRUCT verb

Lee Feigenbaum: when we were doing the shortcuts for SPARQL Update, you can leave out the template from the CONSTRUCT verb

14:09:48 <NickH> LeeF: and it just copies the template from the WHERE clause

Lee Feigenbaum: and it just copies the template from the WHERE clause

14:10:01 <AndyS> Yes - that's the defn - might (haven't investigated) work as template = all triple patterns mentions for UNION + OPTIONAL

Andy Seaborne: Yes - that's the defn - might (haven't investigated) work as template = all triple patterns mentions for UNION + OPTIONAL

14:10:05 <NickH> LeeF: concerns about OPTIONAL and UNION being allowed

Lee Feigenbaum: concerns about OPTIONAL and UNION being allowed

14:11:00 <AndyS> http://service.demo.lagrummet.se/view/publ/sfs/1991:1469?query

Andy Seaborne: http://service.demo.lagrummet.se/view/publ/sfs/1991:1469?query

14:11:14 <NickH> AndyS: it would be pretty hairy to support FILTER not bound

Andy Seaborne: it would be pretty hairy to support FILTER not bound

14:11:58 <SteveH> I think it's just too hard

Steve Harris: I think it's just too hard

14:12:04 <NickH> AndyS: it would have to say something about all the triples that are posively touched

Andy Seaborne: it would have to say something about all the triples that are posively touched

14:12:21 <NickH> LeeF: is there a concept that would be reusable in the current doucment?

Lee Feigenbaum: is there a concept that would be reusable in the current doucment?

14:12:47 <NickH> LeeF: I am inclined to politely decline - out of time and out of scope

Lee Feigenbaum: I am inclined to politely decline - out of time and out of scope

14:13:01 <NickH> AndyS: too late to put in new features like this

Andy Seaborne: too late to put in new features like this

14:14:04 <NickH> LeeF: I will take ownership of the response

Lee Feigenbaum: I will take ownership of the response

14:15:00 <NickH> LeeF: the other comment was JD-6

Lee Feigenbaum: the other comment was JD-6

14:17:11 <Zakim> +chimezie

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14:17:38 <chimezie> hey (sorry I'm late)

Chimezie Ogbuji: hey (sorry I'm late)

14:17:44 <chimezie> Zakim, who is here?

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, who is here?

14:17:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see kasei, cbuilara, Olivier, LeeF, NickH, SteveH, AndyS, chimezie

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14:17:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see chimezie, Zakim, RRSAgent, cbuilara, Olivier, LeeF, AndyS, SteveH, iv_an_ru_, pgearon, ericP, sandro, trackbot, kasei, NickH, alepas

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see chimezie, Zakim, RRSAgent, cbuilara, Olivier, LeeF, AndyS, SteveH, iv_an_ru_, pgearon, ericP, sandro, trackbot, kasei, NickH, alepas

14:17:48 <NickH> AndyS: if we are now going to allow functions like SUM to return strings, it gets more complex

Andy Seaborne: if we are now going to allow functions like SUM to return strings, it gets more complex

14:18:04 <AndyS> SUM(my:fixTheData(?x)) where my:fixTheData(?x) gets things into being a number

Andy Seaborne: SUM(my:fixTheData(?x)) where my:fixTheData(?x) gets things into being a number

14:18:11 <Zakim> -SteveH

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14:18:16 <NickH> AndyS: restricting aggregate functions to numbers feels safer

Andy Seaborne: restricting aggregate functions to numbers feels safer

14:18:36 <kasei> q+

Gregory Williams: q+

14:18:38 <Zakim> +??P14

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14:18:42 <SteveH> Zakim, ??P14 is me

Steve Harris: Zakim, ??P14 is me

14:18:42 <Zakim> +SteveH; got it

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14:19:00 <SteveH> q+

Steve Harris: q+

14:19:03 <LeeF> ack kasei

Lee Feigenbaum: ack kasei

14:19:09 <NickH> LeeF: his goal is to let the query engine automatically sort it out, rather than the query writer

Lee Feigenbaum: his goal is to let the query engine automatically sort it out, rather than the query writer

14:19:31 <LeeF> ack SteveH

Lee Feigenbaum: ack SteveH

14:20:24 <NickH> SteveH: this is a straight forward trade-off between easy of use and safety. When it comes to integers, I would edge on the side of safety.

Steve Harris: this is a straight forward trade-off between easy of use and safety. When it comes to integers, I would edge on the side of safety.

14:20:45 <AndyS> q+ to note this does not *require* SUM to be def'ed as +

Andy Seaborne: q+ to note this does not *require* SUM to be def'ed as +

14:20:58 <Zakim> +MattPerry

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14:21:04 <kasei> q+

Gregory Williams: q+

14:21:31 <LeeF> http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-query/#operatorExtensibility

Lee Feigenbaum: http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-query/#operatorExtensibility

14:22:14 <kasei> q-

Gregory Williams: q-

14:22:53 <NickH> SteveH: we don't have a paragraph of text that says it is valid to extend aggregate functions

Steve Harris: we don't have a paragraph of text that says it is valid to extend aggregate functions

14:23:20 <AndyS> We don't say (and maybe should) that functions (and aggs) can be extended where error -- we did in SPARQL 1.0 (editorial change)

Andy Seaborne: We don't say (and maybe should) that functions (and aggs) can be extended where error -- we did in SPARQL 1.0 (editorial change)

14:23:39 <LeeF> ack AndyS

Lee Feigenbaum: ack AndyS

14:23:39 <Zakim> AndyS, you wanted to note this does not *require* SUM to be def'ed as +

Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS, you wanted to note this does not *require* SUM to be def'ed as +

14:24:04 <NickH> AndyS: in Sparql 1.0 we say that you can extend any function in the operator table

Andy Seaborne: in Sparql 1.0 we say that you can extend any function in the operator table

14:24:32 <NickH> AndyS: at the moment we don't explictly say that you can extend functions that would other cause an error

Andy Seaborne: at the moment we don't explictly say that you can extend functions that would other cause an error

14:25:06 <SteveH> +1 to AndyS

Steve Harris: +1 to AndyS

14:25:11 <NickH> AndyS: if we changed SUM() to mean the same thing as +, that would be a big change

Andy Seaborne: if we changed SUM() to mean the same thing as +, that would be a big change

14:25:16 <LeeF> q?

Lee Feigenbaum: q?

14:25:34 <NickH> AndyS: he just has rubbish data that he wants to clean up!

Andy Seaborne: he just has rubbish data that he wants to clean up!

14:26:07 <NickH> SteveH is the owner and has written a draft response

SteveH is the owner and has written a draft response

14:26:20 <AndyS> And "1+1"^^xsd:string ?

Andy Seaborne: And "1+1"^^xsd:string ?

14:26:29 <NickH> LeeF: any more comments on comments?

Lee Feigenbaum: any more comments on comments?

14:26:47 <LeeF> topic: Graph terminology telecon

2. Graph terminology telecon

14:26:57 <NickH> LeeF: next topic is joint graph terminology comment from last week

Lee Feigenbaum: next topic is joint graph terminology comment from last week

14:27:07 <SteveH> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:JB-6 <- now with extra para

Steve Harris: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/CommentResponse:JB-6 <- now with extra para

14:27:46 <NickH> chimezie: G-Snap is roughly an RDF Graph

Chimezie Ogbuji: G-Snap is roughly an RDF Graph

14:28:00 <NickH> chimezie: G-Box is is RDF Graph Content

Chimezie Ogbuji: G-Box is is RDF Graph Content

14:28:20 <NickH> chimezie: G-Box is an RDF Graph Document

Chimezie Ogbuji: G-Box is an RDF Graph Document

14:28:52 <NickH> chimezie: we didn't get to the point of actually discussing the text

Chimezie Ogbuji: we didn't get to the point of actually discussing the text

14:29:17 <NickH> LeeF: there was some some conern about some of the words used

Lee Feigenbaum: there was some some conern about some of the words used

14:29:22 <NickH> chimezie: there are two concerns

Chimezie Ogbuji: there are two concerns

14:29:38 <NickH> chimezie: the notion of an RDF Graph is not formally defined

Chimezie Ogbuji: the notion of an RDF Graph is not formally defined

14:29:56 <NickH> chimezie: they would prefer a different term than RDF Document

Chimezie Ogbuji: they would prefer a different term than RDF Document

14:31:16 <NickH> LeeF: this is pretty easy as far as the SPARQL WG is concerned

Lee Feigenbaum: this is pretty easy as far as the SPARQL WG is concerned

14:31:59 <NickH> chimezie: if those actions get to the point where they want to change text in mature documents

Chimezie Ogbuji: if those actions get to the point where they want to change text in mature documents

14:32:14 <NickH> LeeF: probably had to play it by ear

Lee Feigenbaum: probably had to play it by ear

14:32:55 <NickH> LeeF: do you think that the actions will result in significant changes to doucment?

Lee Feigenbaum: do you think that the actions will result in significant changes to doucment?

14:33:20 <NickH> chimezie: I don't think it will result in a wholesale rewrite

Chimezie Ogbuji: I don't think it will result in a wholesale rewrite

14:33:36 <NickH> AndyS: are there going to be minutes and a summary?

Andy Seaborne: are there going to be minutes and a summary?

14:33:59 <NickH> LeeF: Richard got hold of IRC logs and is going to create minutes and a summary

Lee Feigenbaum: Richard got hold of IRC logs and is going to create minutes and a summary

14:34:19 <NickH> LeeF: I have a black market copy of the IRC logs, which is available for the right price

Lee Feigenbaum: I have a black market copy of the IRC logs, which is available for the right price

14:34:51 <NickH> LeeF: I will send it to the list but Richard will be creating a nicely formatted version

Lee Feigenbaum: I will send it to the list but Richard will be creating a nicely formatted version

14:35:05 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me

Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, mute me

14:35:05 <Zakim> chimezie should now be muted

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14:35:07 <LeeF> topic: RDF WG decision on simple literals

3. RDF WG decision on simple literals

14:35:19 <NickH> LeeF: wish sandro was here for the last topic on the agenda

Lee Feigenbaum: wish sandro was here for the last topic on the agenda

14:36:18 <NickH> LeeF: RDF working group resolves to remove untyped literal without an language tag now gets parsed as literal of type XSD:String

Lee Feigenbaum: RDF working group resolves to remove untyped literal without an language tag now gets parsed as literal of type XSD:String

14:36:39 <LeeF> paul's mail: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011AprJun/0399.html

Lee Feigenbaum: paul's mail: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2011AprJun/0399.html

14:36:56 <NickH> LeeF: the options that we have been discussing are

Lee Feigenbaum: the options that we have been discussing are

14:37:12 <NickH> LeeF: 1) do nothing

Lee Feigenbaum: 1) do nothing

14:40:12 <AndyS> LeeF: 2) Incorporate the current RDF WG resolution on simple literals, and nothing else.

Lee Feigenbaum: 2) Incorporate the current RDF WG resolution on simple literals, and nothing else. [ Scribe Assist by Andy Seaborne ]

14:38:35 <NickH> LeeF: 3) Wait until the RDF working group has also resolved what should be done about pain literals with language tags

Lee Feigenbaum: 3) Wait until the RDF working group has also resolved what should be done about pain literals with language tags

14:39:25 <NickH> 4) come up with a wording that says 'the is what SPARQL 1.1 does today, RDF-WG is working on something and when that is sorted out interpret the SPARQL 1.1 specification differently'

4) come up with a wording that says 'the is what SPARQL 1.1 does today, RDF-WG is working on something and when that is sorted out interpret the SPARQL 1.1 specification differently'

14:39:52 <NickH> LeeF: Is making this changes significant enough to require a second last-call?

Lee Feigenbaum: Is making this changes significant enough to require a second last-call?

14:40:13 <NickH> options 2 and 3 would require a othing else. [1

options 2 and 3 would require a othing else. [1

14:40:37 <SteveH> q+

Steve Harris: q+

14:40:38 <NickH> LeeF: unsure if 4 will require a second last-call

Lee Feigenbaum: unsure if 4 will require a second last-call

14:40:48 <LeeF> ack SteveH

Lee Feigenbaum: ack SteveH

14:41:28 <NickH> SteveH: if we did 1 and added a note saying that the RDF-WG is currently investigating some issues, would it require a second last-call?

Steve Harris: if we did 1 and added a note saying that the RDF-WG is currently investigating some issues, would it require a second last-call?

14:44:00 <AndyS> INSERT DATA { :x :p "foo" . :x :p "foo"^^xsd:string } --> COUNT  --> changes from 2 to 1

Andy Seaborne: INSERT DATA { :x :p "foo" . :x :p "foo"^^xsd:string } --> COUNT --> changes from 2 to 1

14:45:29 <AndyS> ... which is not an inference effect

Andy Seaborne: ... which is not an inference effect

14:46:06 <SteveH> SteveH: I feel that the lowest risk way worward is to do 1) but with an informative note saying what we think will happen

Steve Harris: I feel that the lowest risk way worward is to do 1) but with an informative note saying what we think will happen [ Scribe Assist by Steve Harris ]

14:48:09 <NickH> AndyS: the real problem I see is the miss-alignment between the SPARQL-WG and the RDF-WG

Andy Seaborne: the real problem I see is the miss-alignment between the SPARQL-WG and the RDF-WG

14:48:22 <NickH> AndyS: by the time that they get to rec, it will be rather late

Andy Seaborne: by the time that they get to rec, it will be rather late

14:48:26 <SteveH> yes, we have to do lang tags as well

Steve Harris: yes, we have to do lang tags as well

14:48:45 <NickH> SPARQL 1.1.1?

SPARQL 1.1.1?

14:49:52 <LeeF> zakim, who's on the phone?

Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, who's on the phone?

14:49:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see kasei, cbuilara, Olivier, LeeF, NickH, AndyS, chimezie (muted), SteveH, MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see kasei, cbuilara, Olivier, LeeF, NickH, AndyS, chimezie (muted), SteveH, MattPerry

14:49:53 <NickH> I think we can't wait

I think we can't wait

14:50:06 <NickH> but should make a note about it

but should make a note about it

14:50:20 <LeeF> So, NickH, you're happy with Steve's suggested approach?

Lee Feigenbaum: So, NickH, you're happy with Steve's suggested approach?

14:50:45 <NickH> yes

yes

14:51:32 <LeeF> ACTION: Lee to talk to Sandro and Eric about the informative note approach to aligning SPARQL with the RDF literal changes

ACTION: Lee to talk to Sandro and Eric about the informative note approach to aligning SPARQL with the RDF literal changes

14:51:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-485 - Talk to Sandro and Eric about the informative note approach to aligning SPARQL with the RDF literal changes [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2011-07-05].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-485 - Talk to Sandro and Eric about the informative note approach to aligning SPARQL with the RDF literal changes [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2011-07-05].

14:53:36 <kasei> service tests 2, 3, and 6 list missing data files in the manifest

Gregory Williams: service tests 2, 3, and 6 list missing data files in the manifest

14:53:53 <kasei> service tests 4 and 7 are, I believe, wrong.

Gregory Williams: service tests 4 and 7 are, I believe, wrong.

14:54:42 <LeeF>                qt:data   <data02.ttl> ;

Lee Feigenbaum: qt:data <data02.ttl> ;

14:54:57 <kasei> I'll send an email with the bigger problems with tests 4 and 7

Gregory Williams: I'll send an email with the bigger problems with tests 4 and 7

14:55:34 <AndyS> ericP (tests for federation?)

Andy Seaborne: ericP (tests for federation?)

14:57:31 <Zakim> -SteveH

Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveH

14:57:32 <Zakim> -LeeF

Zakim IRC Bot: -LeeF

14:57:32 <Zakim> -chimezie

Zakim IRC Bot: -chimezie

14:57:34 <Zakim> -NickH

Zakim IRC Bot: -NickH

14:57:35 <Zakim> -AndyS

Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS

14:57:37 <Zakim> -cbuilara

Zakim IRC Bot: -cbuilara

14:57:37 <Zakim> -Olivier

Zakim IRC Bot: -Olivier

14:57:40 <Zakim> -MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: -MattPerry

14:57:48 <Zakim> -kasei

Zakim IRC Bot: -kasei

14:57:49 <Zakim> SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has ended

14:57:50 <Zakim> Attendees were kasei, cbuilara, LeeF, NickH, SteveH, Olivier, AndyS, chimezie, MattPerry

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were kasei, cbuilara, LeeF, NickH, SteveH, Olivier, AndyS, chimezie, MattPerry

14:58:28 <LeeF> SteveH - I'm happy with the JB-6 response

Lee Feigenbaum: SteveH - I'm happy with the JB-6 response

14:58:56 <SteveH> thanks LeeF

Steve Harris: thanks LeeF



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