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13:59:57 <kasei> Zakim, this is sparql
Gregory Williams: Zakim, this is sparql ←
14:00:02 <AxelPolleres> trackbot, start meeting
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14:00:04 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:00:05 <Zakim> ok, kasei; that matches SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM
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14:00:06 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 77277
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14:00:07 <trackbot> Meeting: SPARQL Working Group Teleconference
14:00:07 <trackbot> Date: 14 September 2010
14:00:11 <Zakim> + +33.4.92.38.aaaa
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14:00:15 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start now
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14:00:18 <AxelPolleres> chair: Axel Polleres
14:00:24 <kasei> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Gregory Williams: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:00:26 <OlivierCorby> Zakim, aaaa is me
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14:00:33 <Zakim> I notice SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM has restarted
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14:00:33 <AxelPolleres> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-09-14
14:00:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see AxelPolleres, kasei, +33.4.92.38.aaaa
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14:00:39 <Zakim> +OlivierCorby; got it
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14:00:41 <Zakim> +??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18 ←
14:01:00 <kasei> scribenick: kasei
(Scribe set to Gregory Williams)
14:01:00 <AxelPolleres> scribe: Greg Williams
14:01:07 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
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14:01:07 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
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14:01:09 <Zakim> +Ivan
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14:01:12 <AndyS> zakim, ??P18 is me
Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P18 is me ←
14:01:12 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it ←
14:01:26 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:01:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see AxelPolleres, kasei, OlivierCorby, AndyS, Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see AxelPolleres, kasei, OlivierCorby, AndyS, Ivan ←
14:01:37 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aabb
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14:01:48 <MattPerry> zakim, aabb is me
Matthew Perry: zakim, aabb is me ←
14:02:09 <Zakim> +MattPerry; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MattPerry; got it ←
14:03:02 <kasei> topic: admin
14:03:10 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-09-07
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-09-07 ←
14:03:26 <kasei> AxelPolleres: minutes from last time?
Axel Polleres: minutes from last time? ←
14:03:40 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-09-07
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-09-07 ←
14:04:22 <Zakim> +??P42
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P42 ←
14:04:22 <kasei> ... next meeting. Both chairs gone next week.
... next meeting. Both chairs gone next week. ←
14:04:28 <Zakim> + +1.617.245.aacc
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14:04:28 <kasei> ... need to find a chair.
... need to find a chair. ←
14:04:30 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aadd
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14:04:36 <Zakim> -??P42
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P42 ←
14:04:37 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??P42 is me
Alexandre Passant: Zakim, ??P42 is me ←
14:04:41 <kasei> ivan: sandro may be around, but I am not sure.
Ivan Herman: sandro may be around, but I am not sure. ←
14:04:44 <MattPerry> I could scribe next time
Matthew Perry: I could scribe next time ←
14:04:46 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to clarify chairing next time
ACTION: Axel to clarify chairing next time ←
14:04:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-309 - Clarify chairing next time [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-09-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-309 - Clarify chairing next time [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-09-21]. ←
14:05:13 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:05:13 <kasei> topic: status of documents
14:05:39 <Zakim> I already had ??P42 as Guest P42 26632, AlexPassant
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P42 as Guest P42 26632, AlexPassant ←
14:05:44 <kasei> AxelPolleres: which documents are ready for publication. what issues remain?
Axel Polleres: which documents are ready for publication. what issues remain? ←
14:05:47 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
14:05:50 <kasei> ... want to assign reviewers.
... want to assign reviewers. ←
14:05:55 <kasei> ... start with query document.
... start with query document. ←
14:06:16 <LeeF> Reviews by end of this call? :-)
Lee Feigenbaum: Reviews by end of this call? :-) ←
14:06:20 <kasei> ivan: good to know the times involved in reviewing
Ivan Herman: good to know the times involved in reviewing ←
14:06:41 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
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14:06:47 <ivan> ack ivan
Ivan Herman: ack ivan ←
14:06:49 <Zakim> +??P33
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P33 ←
14:06:50 <LeeF> zakim, aacc is me
Lee Feigenbaum: zakim, aacc is me ←
<kasei> subtopic: Query document
14:07:00 <kasei> AxelPolleres: Query document. Andy sent a list of which sections are ready for review.
Axel Polleres: Query document. Andy sent a list of which sections are ready for review. ←
14:07:06 <Zakim> +LeeF; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +LeeF; got it ←
14:07:09 <kasei> AndyS: sent list of sections that had changed from 1.0
Andy Seaborne: sent list of sections that had changed from 1.0 ←
14:07:22 <AndyS> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0376.html
Andy Seaborne: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JulSep/0376.html ←
14:07:58 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
14:08:02 <kasei> AxelPolleres: which sections should we assign for review? Can we review some sections now?
Axel Polleres: which sections should we assign for review? Can we review some sections now? ←
14:08:25 <kasei> ... are there stable parts reviewable now?
... are there stable parts reviewable now? ←
14:08:39 <kasei> AndyS: thought we were aiming for working draft publication out. If so, then the whole document is reviewable.
Andy Seaborne: thought we were aiming for working draft publication out. If so, then the whole document is reviewable. ←
14:08:43 <Zakim> + +44.186.528.aaee
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14:08:52 <bglimm> Zakim, +44.186.528.aaee is me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, +44.186.528.aaee is me ←
14:08:52 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bglimm; got it ←
14:09:13 <kasei> AxelPolleres: with query, we probably need another WD publication. will anything happen before we publish/review?
Axel Polleres: with query, we probably need another WD publication. will anything happen before we publish/review? ←
14:09:30 <ivan> ack ivan
Ivan Herman: ack ivan ←
14:09:44 <kasei> ivan: I thought we were talking about LC reviews.
Ivan Herman: I thought we were talking about LC reviews. ←
14:09:50 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, mute me ←
14:09:50 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should now be muted ←
14:09:54 <kasei> ... now I hear something different. what are we talking about?
... now I hear something different. what are we talking about? ←
14:10:21 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-08-24#publication_schedule
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-08-24#publication_schedule ←
14:10:29 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-08-10#document_publishing_status__2f_plans
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-08-10#document_publishing_status__2f_plans ←
14:10:56 <kasei> AxelPolleres: I understood in our meeting on Aug 24 that we suggested the way forward is to have editors put missing pieces in, go with one more round of WD
Axel Polleres: I understood in our meeting on Aug 24 that we suggested the way forward is to have editors put missing pieces in, go with one more round of WD ←
14:11:16 <kasei> ... we'll incorporate reviews from outside.
... we'll incorporate reviews from outside. ←
14:11:23 <kasei> ... try to get the documents out, and in parallel get LC ready.
... try to get the documents out, and in parallel get LC ready. ←
14:11:29 <kasei> ... is that just my understanding?
... is that just my understanding? ←
14:11:58 <kasei> ivan: that's fine if it's the plan. If we are looking for LC reviewers, then this should happen only when the whole document is ready.
Ivan Herman: that's fine if it's the plan. If we are looking for LC reviewers, then this should happen only when the whole document is ready. ←
14:12:08 <kasei> ... reviewing just one part of a document should not happen.
... reviewing just one part of a document should not happen. ←
14:13:01 <kasei> AxelPolleres: idea was to have missing pieces in [by now?], but that hasn't happened yet.
Axel Polleres: idea was to have missing pieces in [by now?], but that hasn't happened yet. ←
14:13:13 <kasei> ... could have WG reviewers for the parts that are done.
... could have WG reviewers for the parts that are done. ←
14:13:28 <kasei> ... want an indication of what parts are finished, what's unstable.
... want an indication of what parts are finished, what's unstable. ←
14:13:46 <kasei> ... the list AndyS sent around is what has changed, not what is ready.
... the list AndyS sent around is what has changed, not what is ready. ←
14:13:57 <kasei> AndyS: indication to people what sections are relevant.
Andy Seaborne: indication to people what sections are relevant. ←
14:14:05 <kasei> AxelPolleres: can you provide a list of what's ready/stable?
Axel Polleres: can you provide a list of what's ready/stable? ←
14:15:00 <kasei> ... for going forward, we can assign reviewers to go over it in the next 1/2 weeks?
... for going forward, we can assign reviewers to go over it in the next 1/2 weeks? ←
14:15:27 <kasei> AndyS: isn't clear to me if the reviews right now are for LC or just WD?
Andy Seaborne: isn't clear to me if the reviews right now are for LC or just WD? ←
14:15:47 <kasei> AxelPolleres: can we get 2 people to review document in current state?
Axel Polleres: can we get 2 people to review document in current state? ←
14:15:52 <kasei> I can
I can ←
14:15:55 <MattPerry> I can too
Matthew Perry: I can too ←
14:16:08 <kasei> AxelPolleres: Greg and Matt will review.
Axel Polleres: Greg and Matt will review. ←
14:16:39 <kasei> AxelPolleres: looking for having the documents ready to publish. we should also think about the date we want to publish.
Axel Polleres: looking for having the documents ready to publish. we should also think about the date we want to publish. ←
14:16:53 <kasei> ... is one week possible?
... is one week possible? ←
14:16:59 <MattPerry> 2 week is better
Matthew Perry: 2 week is better ←
14:17:03 <kasei> I can probably do 1, but 2 better.
I can probably do 1, but 2 better. ←
14:17:12 <kasei> ... let's discuss in 2 weeks.
... let's discuss in 2 weeks. ←
14:17:30 <kasei> ... we'll try for 2 weeks for all documents.
... we'll try for 2 weeks for all documents. ←
14:17:55 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: greg to review queryt for WD publication
ACTION: greg to review queryt for WD publication ←
14:17:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-310 - Review queryt for WD publication [on Gregory Williams - due 2010-09-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-310 - Review queryt for WD publication [on Gregory Williams - due 2010-09-21]. ←
14:18:10 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: matt to review query for WD publication
ACTION: matt to review query for WD publication ←
14:18:10 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - matt
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - matt ←
<kasei> subtopic: Update document
14:18:26 <kasei> AxelPolleres: Update document.
Axel Polleres: Update document. ←
14:18:49 <kasei> AlexPassant: the formal model is not complete yet.
Alexandre Passant: the formal model is not complete yet. ←
14:18:55 <kasei> ... review could start by Monday next week.
... review could start by Monday next week. ←
14:19:10 <kasei> ... formal model hasn't been reviewed yet. maybe 2 reviewers plus one just for the model.
... formal model hasn't been reviewed yet. maybe 2 reviewers plus one just for the model. ←
14:19:34 <kasei> AxelPolleres: is the document ready from your point of view? are all issues fixed?
Axel Polleres: is the document ready from your point of view? are all issues fixed? ←
14:19:51 <kasei> AlexPassant: no, not yet. issues will be ready by Monday. will be able to say on monday if ready for LC or if more time is needed.
Alexandre Passant: no, not yet. issues will be ready by Monday. will be able to say on monday if ready for LC or if more time is needed. ←
14:20:15 <kasei> AxelPolleres: we should have at least some reviews to get out a WD.
Axel Polleres: we should have at least some reviews to get out a WD. ←
14:20:30 <kasei> ... AlexPassant can inform reviewers when it is ready for review.
... AlexPassant can inform reviewers when it is ready for review. ←
14:20:48 <kasei> ... volunteers for reviewing update?
... volunteers for reviewing update? ←
14:20:51 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to review update
ACTION: axel to review update ←
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14:21:23 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: AndyS to review update formal model
ACTION: AndyS to review update formal model ←
14:21:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-312 - Review update formal model [on Andy Seaborne - due 2010-09-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-312 - Review update formal model [on Andy Seaborne - due 2010-09-21]. ←
14:21:36 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: axel to review Update
ACTION: axel to review Update ←
14:21:36 <trackbot> Created ACTION-313 - Review Update [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-09-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-313 - Review Update [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-09-21]. ←
14:21:57 <AndyS> (assumes Alex has had time to add more formal model)
Andy Seaborne: (assumes Alex has had time to add more formal model) ←
14:22:00 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: alex to inform andy/axel for review readyness
ACTION: alex to inform andy/axel for review readyness ←
14:22:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-314 - Inform andy/axel for review readyness [on Alexandre Passant - due 2010-09-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-314 - Inform andy/axel for review readyness [on Alexandre Passant - due 2010-09-21]. ←
<kasei> subtopic: Entailment document
14:22:12 <kasei> AxelPolleres: Entailment document
Axel Polleres: Entailment document ←
14:22:15 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
Birte Glimm: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:22:20 <Zakim> bglimm should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bglimm should no longer be muted ←
14:22:28 <kasei> bglimm: the document is ready for review.
Birte Glimm: the document is ready for review. ←
14:22:36 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
14:22:40 <kasei> ... want to add example for RDF-based semantics, but that's an informative section so doesn't require waiting.
... want to add example for RDF-based semantics, but that's an informative section so doesn't require waiting. ←
14:23:07 <kasei> AxelPolleres: made progress with sandro on issues around RIF.
Axel Polleres: made progress with sandro on issues around RIF. ←
14:23:26 <kasei> ... progress, but will not have it in final shape for this round of WD.
... progress, but will not have it in final shape for this round of WD. ←
14:23:42 <kasei> ... should mark these points in the document, and will have to review again before LC.
... should mark these points in the document, and will have to review again before LC. ←
14:23:58 <kasei> ... can we assign reviewers for OWL and RDF parts?
... can we assign reviewers for OWL and RDF parts? ←
14:24:19 <kasei> ... does Chime still have open issues in the document?
... does Chime still have open issues in the document? ←
14:24:31 <kasei> ivan: still have to agree on URIs for the namespace document.
Ivan Herman: still have to agree on URIs for the namespace document. ←
14:25:04 <kasei> ... one issue is rdf import. another is what URI to use for entailment.
... one issue is rdf import. another is what URI to use for entailment. ←
14:25:15 <kasei> ... not sure where we are on that.
... not sure where we are on that. ←
14:25:22 <ivan> q-
Ivan Herman: q- ←
14:25:25 <kasei> ... everything leads to Chime.
... everything leads to Chime. ←
14:26:00 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Birte to follow up with Chime on review readiness of entailment
ACTION: Birte to follow up with Chime on review readiness of entailment ←
14:26:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-315 - Follow up with Chime on review readiness of entailment [on Birte Glimm - due 2010-09-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-315 - Follow up with Chime on review readiness of entailment [on Birte Glimm - due 2010-09-21]. ←
14:26:23 <OlivierCorby> I can review
Olivier Corby: I can review ←
14:26:28 <kasei> AxelPolleres: does it make sense to look for entailment reviewers, to be ready whenever issues are dealt with?
Axel Polleres: does it make sense to look for entailment reviewers, to be ready whenever issues are dealt with? ←
14:26:48 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Olivier to review entailment whenever he gets ok from Chime/Birte
ACTION: Olivier to review entailment whenever he gets ok from Chime/Birte ←
14:26:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-316 - Review entailment whenever he gets ok from Chime/Birte [on Olivier Corby - due 2010-09-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-316 - Review entailment whenever he gets ok from Chime/Birte [on Olivier Corby - due 2010-09-21]. ←
14:26:57 <kasei> ... Olivier can review. Anybody else?
... Olivier can review. Anybody else? ←
14:27:14 <kasei> ... Zakim can pick a victim.
... Zakim can pick a victim. ←
14:28:00 <kasei> AxelPolleres: need reviewers from the WG.
Axel Polleres: need reviewers from the WG. ←
14:28:03 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim
Axel Polleres: Zakim, pick a victim ←
14:28:03 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose AndyS ←
14:28:04 <kasei> ... we'll try Zakim.
... we'll try Zakim. ←
14:28:29 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim
Axel Polleres: Zakim, pick a victim ←
14:28:29 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose bglimm ←
14:28:39 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, pick a victim
Axel Polleres: Zakim, pick a victim ←
14:28:39 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose AndyS ←
14:29:07 <AndyS> Zakim, pick Axel
Andy Seaborne: Zakim, pick Axel ←
14:29:07 <Zakim> I don't understand 'pick Axel', AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'pick Axel', AndyS ←
14:29:13 <kasei> (Zakim is being uncooperative.)
(Zakim is being uncooperative.) ←
14:29:19 <kasei> AxelPolleres: LeeF, can you review?
Axel Polleres: LeeF, can you review? ←
14:29:34 <kasei> LeeF: yes, but don't feel qualified for some of it.
Lee Feigenbaum: yes, but don't feel qualified for some of it. ←
14:29:41 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Lee to review entailment
ACTION: Lee to review entailment ←
14:29:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-317 - Review entailment [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-09-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-317 - Review entailment [on Lee Feigenbaum - due 2010-09-21]. ←
<kasei> subtopic: HTTP Update document
14:29:57 <kasei> AxelPolleres: HTTP Update
Axel Polleres: HTTP Update ←
14:30:03 <kasei> ... Chime isn't around, so can't make a decision today.
... Chime isn't around, so can't make a decision today. ←
<kasei> subtopic: Service Description document
14:30:07 <kasei> AxelPolleres: Service Description
Axel Polleres: Service Description ←
14:30:24 <kasei> ... any volunteers?
... any volunteers? ←
14:30:24 <AlexPassant> I volunteer for SD
Alexandre Passant: I volunteer for SD ←
14:30:36 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: alex to review SD
ACTION: alex to review SD ←
14:30:36 <trackbot> Created ACTION-318 - Review SD [on Alexandre Passant - due 2010-09-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-318 - Review SD [on Alexandre Passant - due 2010-09-21]. ←
14:31:43 <kasei> AxelPolleres: is it ready for review?
Axel Polleres: is it ready for review? ←
14:32:02 <bglimm> I can review
Birte Glimm: I can review ←
14:32:10 <kasei> kasei: yes, content is all reviewable. open issues for adding cross-links to other documents (e.g. protocol)
Gregory Williams: yes, content is all reviewable. open issues for adding cross-links to other documents (e.g. protocol) ←
14:32:12 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: birte to review SD
ACTION: birte to review SD ←
14:32:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-319 - Review SD [on Birte Glimm - due 2010-09-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-319 - Review SD [on Birte Glimm - due 2010-09-21]. ←
14:32:19 <kasei> AxelPolleres: Alex and Birte will review SD.
Axel Polleres: Alex and Birte will review SD. ←
<kasei> subtopic: Protocol document
14:32:27 <kasei> AxelPolleres: Protocol document
Axel Polleres: Protocol document ←
14:32:33 <kasei> ... still have to figure out the status.
... still have to figure out the status. ←
14:32:39 <LeeF> Uothing new, i think we shouldn't poublish it this time around
Lee Feigenbaum: Uothing new, i think we shouldn't poublish it this time around ←
14:32:54 <kasei> ... will leave it out for this round.
... will leave it out for this round. ←
14:32:58 <AxelPolleres> protocol to be left out for this round.
Axel Polleres: protocol to be left out for this round. ←
<kasei> subtopic: Test Suite
14:33:09 <kasei> AxelPolleres: Test Suite
Axel Polleres: Test Suite ←
14:33:27 <kasei> ... question about how we publish it.
... question about how we publish it. ←
14:33:43 <kasei> ... does it make sense to put the test suite in rec-track?
... does it make sense to put the test suite in rec-track? ←
14:33:52 <kasei> ... or sufficient to have it as a note?
... or sufficient to have it as a note? ←
14:34:07 <kasei> ... will check our previous discussions.
... will check our previous discussions. ←
14:34:19 <kasei> AndyS: I don't see how we can have feedback on implementations unless test suite is rec-track.
Andy Seaborne: I don't see how we can have feedback on implementations unless test suite is rec-track. ←
14:35:10 <kasei> AndyS: is this about the test case document, or the tests themselves?
Andy Seaborne: is this about the test case document, or the tests themselves? ←
14:35:20 <kasei> AxelPolleres: we have to check whether those we've dicussed are marked as approved.
Axel Polleres: we have to check whether those we've dicussed are marked as approved. ←
14:35:34 <kasei> ... I would publish the whole document structure, but need a separate overview document.
... I would publish the whole document structure, but need a separate overview document. ←
14:35:41 <kasei> ... only have the readme document right now.
... only have the readme document right now. ←
14:35:57 <kasei> ... doesn't make sense to publish this alone. maybe we should hold back.
... doesn't make sense to publish this alone. maybe we should hold back. ←
14:36:14 <kasei> ... on the other hand, we're losing time if we don't do it now.
... on the other hand, we're losing time if we don't do it now. ←
14:36:32 <kasei> ... I won't be able to work on it in the next 2 weeks.
... I won't be able to work on it in the next 2 weeks. ←
14:36:44 <kasei> ... I can promise to do it in 3 weeks, then we revisit.
... I can promise to do it in 3 weeks, then we revisit. ←
14:37:12 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to bring test suite in shape for FPWD within 3 weeks
ACTION: Axel to bring test suite in shape for FPWD within 3 weeks ←
14:37:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-320 - Bring test suite in shape for FPWD within 3 weeks [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-09-21].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-320 - Bring test suite in shape for FPWD within 3 weeks [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-09-21]. ←
<kasei> subtopic: Overview document
14:37:26 <kasei> AxelPolleres: Overview document
Axel Polleres: Overview document ←
14:37:36 <kasei> ... can probably put it out as FPWD
... can probably put it out as FPWD ←
14:37:42 <kasei> ... any opinions?
... any opinions? ←
14:37:56 <kasei> link in the agenda doesn't work
link in the agenda doesn't work ←
14:38:01 <AndyS> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Overview-Document
Andy Seaborne: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Overview-Document ←
14:38:32 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Overview-Document
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Overview-Document ←
14:38:48 <kasei> maybe just for me
maybe just for me ←
14:38:54 <kasei> q+
q+ ←
14:39:23 <ivan> ack kasei
Ivan Herman: ack kasei ←
14:39:28 <LeeF> I don't think the overview document is ready to be published.
Lee Feigenbaum: I don't think the overview document is ready to be published. ←
14:39:53 <kasei> kasei: more comfortable if FPWD on overview if there was content in the major sections
Gregory Williams: more comfortable if FPWD on overview if there was content in the major sections ←
14:40:04 <kasei> ivan: not intended for a rec document, right?
Ivan Herman: not intended for a rec document, right? ←
14:40:10 <kasei> ... timing is different than for other docs.
... timing is different than for other docs. ←
14:40:20 <kasei> ... no urgency to publish the overview right now.
... no urgency to publish the overview right now. ←
14:40:56 <AndyS> Axel: Overview is not REC track, it's a NOTE
Axel Polleres: Overview is not REC track, it's a NOTE [ Scribe Assist by Andy Seaborne ] ←
14:41:01 <AxelPolleres> no urgency for Overview document at the moment, if we publish as note, no hurry
Axel Polleres: no urgency for Overview document at the moment, if we publish as note, no hurry ←
14:41:29 <kasei> AxelPolleres: that's it for the agenda. hoping next week we can discuss LET/BIND.
Axel Polleres: that's it for the agenda. hoping next week we can discuss LET/BIND. ←
14:41:42 <AxelPolleres> q?
Axel Polleres: q? ←
14:41:43 <kasei> ... any other issues?
... any other issues? ←
14:41:51 <kasei> AndyS: are we actually having a meeting next week?
Andy Seaborne: are we actually having a meeting next week? ←
14:42:02 <kasei> AxelPolleres: who is not around next week?
Axel Polleres: who is not around next week? ←
14:42:03 <ivan> I am at risk
Ivan Herman: I am at risk ←
14:42:05 <AxelPolleres> regrets for next week?
Axel Polleres: regrets for next week? ←
14:42:32 <AndyS> I am around. Seems to be only me. Decisions, decisions.
Andy Seaborne: I am around. Seems to be only me. Decisions, decisions. ←
14:42:53 <bglimm> I am
Birte Glimm: I am ←
14:43:01 <kasei> AxelPolleres: hard to have a chair next week. ok to skip next week?
Axel Polleres: hard to have a chair next week. ok to skip next week? ←
14:43:19 <AxelPolleres> ivan?, axel, lee, souri
Axel Polleres: ivan?, axel, lee, souri ←
14:43:25 <kasei> ivan: propose you wait for sandro to come back and ask him if he can chair.
Ivan Herman: propose you wait for sandro to come back and ask him if he can chair. ←
14:43:38 <LeeF> Steve is still on holiday next week, right?
Lee Feigenbaum: Steve is still on holiday next week, right? ←
14:43:43 <LeeF> could be a very productive meeting :)
Lee Feigenbaum: could be a very productive meeting :) ←
14:44:06 <kasei> AndyS: propose chairs send out email for next week so progress can be made even without a telecon.
Andy Seaborne: propose chairs send out email for next week so progress can be made even without a telecon. ←
14:45:21 <ivan> zakim, drop me
Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me ←
14:45:21 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected ←
14:45:22 <Zakim> -Ivan
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14:45:26 <Zakim> - +1.603.897.aadd
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14:45:27 <AxelPolleres> adjourned
Axel Polleres: adjourned ←
14:45:27 <Zakim> -bglimm
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14:46:07 <AxelPolleres> axel: please try to get the promised reivews in in time, possibly earlier, such that we can decide to publish WDs in 2, latest 3 weeks.
Axel Polleres: please try to get the promised reivews in in time, possibly earlier, such that we can decide to publish WDs in 2, latest 3 weeks. [ Scribe Assist by Axel Polleres ] ←
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