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14:53:11 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, this will be sparql
Axel Polleres: Zakim, this will be sparql ←
14:53:11 <Zakim> ok, AxelPolleres; I see SW_(SPARQL)10:00AM scheduled to start in 7 minutes
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14:53:32 <AxelPolleres> oh, indeed...
Axel Polleres: oh, indeed... ←
14:57:47 <AxelPolleres> AxelPolleres has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-02-16 (AxelPolleres)
Axel Polleres: AxelPolleres has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Agenda-2010-02-16 (AxelPolleres) ←
14:57:54 <kasei> I can if necessary, but the agenda is SD-heavy, so might be talking a lot..
Gregory Williams: I can if necessary, but the agenda is SD-heavy, so might be talking a lot.. ←
14:58:47 <AxelPolleres> regrets: AndyS, LeeF, MattPerry
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14:59:26 <Zakim> + +1.919.543.aabb
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14:59:32 <bglimm> Zakim, +0186528aaaa is me
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14:59:32 <Zakim> +bglimm; got it
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14:59:58 <AxelPolleres> greg... let's do the following, you start, when SD comes on, you just take over chairng that item, and I scribe, if ivanH isn't here yet
Axel Polleres: greg... let's do the following, you start, when SD comes on, you just take over chairng that item, and I scribe, if ivanH isn't here yet ←
15:00:02 <Zakim> + +49.238.aadd
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15:00:13 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, aacc is me
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15:00:18 <Zakim> + +1.518.276.aaff
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15:00:18 <kasei> Axel, sure.
Gregory Williams: Axel, sure. ←
15:00:22 <Zakim> + +1.770.910.aagg
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15:00:25 <pgearon> Zakim, aaee is me
Paula Gearon: Zakim, aaee is me ←
15:00:25 <kasei> Zakim, aaff is me
Gregory Williams: Zakim, aaff is me ←
15:00:27 <AxelPolleres> scribe: Greg Williams
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15:00:28 <Zakim> +AxelPolleres; got it
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15:00:32 <Zakim> +pgearon; got it
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15:00:34 <Zakim> +kasei; got it
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15:00:34 <AxelPolleres> scribenick: kasei
15:00:36 <pgearon> Zakim, aaee is me
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15:00:42 <Zakim> sorry, pgearon, I do not recognize a party named 'aaee'
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15:00:47 <Prateek> Zakim, +1.770.910.aagg is Prateek
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15:00:48 <Zakim> +Prateek; got it
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15:00:55 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
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15:00:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see bglimm, +1.919.543.aabb, AxelPolleres, +49.238.aadd, pgearon, kasei, Prateek
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15:01:04 <Zakim> -Prateek
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15:01:13 <OlivierCorby> Zakim, aadd is me
Olivier Corby: Zakim, aadd is me ←
15:01:13 <Zakim> +OlivierCorby; got it
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15:01:32 <kasei> Zakim, mute me
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15:01:32 <Zakim> kasei should now be muted
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15:01:40 <Zakim> +Prateek
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15:01:42 <Zakim> +??P34
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15:01:46 <Zakim> +??P32
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15:01:47 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:01:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see bglimm, +1.919.543.aabb, AxelPolleres, OlivierCorby, pgearon, kasei (muted), Prateek, ??P34, ??P32
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see bglimm, +1.919.543.aabb, AxelPolleres, OlivierCorby, pgearon, kasei (muted), Prateek, ??P34, ??P32 ←
15:01:53 <chimezie> Zakim, what is the passcode?
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, what is the passcode? ←
15:01:53 <Zakim> the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), chimezie
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 77277 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), chimezie ←
15:02:01 <dcharbon2> zakim, aabb is me
David Charboneau: zakim, aabb is me ←
15:02:02 <Zakim> +dcharbon2; got it
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15:02:16 <LukeWM> Zakim, ??P32 is Garlik
Luke Wilson-Mawer: Zakim, ??P32 is Garlik ←
15:02:16 <Zakim> +Garlik; got it
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15:02:24 <LukeWM> Garlik has LukeWM, SteveH
Luke Wilson-Mawer: Garlik has LukeWM, SteveH ←
15:02:25 <Zakim> +??P19
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15:02:31 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??p19 is me
Alexandre Passant: Zakim, ??p19 is me ←
15:02:31 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it
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15:02:31 <AxelPolleres> Zakim, who is on the phone?
Axel Polleres: Zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:02:35 <LukeWM> zakim, Garlik has LukeWM, SteveH
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15:02:35 <Zakim> +LukeWM, SteveH; got it
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15:02:43 <Zakim> +Sandro
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15:02:49 <LukeWM> zakim, who is on the phone
Luke Wilson-Mawer: zakim, who is on the phone ←
15:02:49 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', LukeWM
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15:02:53 <Zakim> + +1.216.444.aahh
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15:03:04 <LukeWM> zakim who is on the phone?
Luke Wilson-Mawer: zakim who is on the phone? ←
15:03:06 <chimezie> Zakim, 444.aahh is me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, 444.aahh is me ←
15:03:09 <Zakim> sorry, chimezie, I do not recognize a party named '444.aahh'
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15:03:14 <ivanH> zakim, dial ivanH-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivanH-voip ←
15:03:14 <LukeWM> zakim, who is on the phone?
Luke Wilson-Mawer: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:03:18 <chimezie> Zakim, 1.216.444.aahh is me
Chimezie Ogbuji: Zakim, 1.216.444.aahh is me ←
15:03:19 <Zakim> ok, ivanH; the call is being made
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15:03:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see bglimm, dcharbon2, AxelPolleres, OlivierCorby, pgearon, kasei (muted), Prateek, ??P34, Garlik, AlexPassant, Sandro, +1.216.444.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see bglimm, dcharbon2, AxelPolleres, OlivierCorby, pgearon, kasei (muted), Prateek, ??P34, Garlik, AlexPassant, Sandro, +1.216.444.aahh ←
15:03:26 <Zakim> Garlik has LukeWM, SteveH
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15:03:30 <Zakim> +IvanH
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15:03:36 <Zakim> sorry, chimezie, I do not recognize a party named '1.216.444.aahh'
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15:03:38 <chimezie> Zakim, +1.216.444.aahh is me
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15:03:42 <Zakim> +chimezie; got it
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15:03:48 <ivanH> zakim, mute me
Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me ←
15:03:48 <Zakim> IvanH should now be muted
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15:03:52 <ivanH> scribe: IvanH
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15:03:55 <Souri> ??p34 is me
Souripriya Das: ??p34 is me ←
15:03:55 <ivanH> scribenick: ivanH
15:04:02 <ivanH> topic: admin issues
15:04:06 <chimezie> Zakim, mute me
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15:04:06 <AxelPolleres> PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-02-09
PROPOSED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-02-09 ←
15:04:17 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: anybody comment?
Axel Polleres: anybody comment? ←
15:04:18 <ivanH> ...
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15:04:19 <ivanH> ...
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15:04:21 <ivanH> ..
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15:04:22 <ivanH> ...
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15:04:26 <AxelPolleres> RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-02-09
RESOLVED: Approve minutes at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/meeting/2010-02-09 ←
15:04:29 <ivanH> once... twice...
once... twice... ←
15:04:33 <Souri> zakim, ??P34 is me
Souripriya Das: zakim, ??P34 is me ←
15:04:33 <Zakim> +Souri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Souri; got it ←
15:04:35 <ivanH> topic: next meeting
15:04:38 <ivanH> in a week
in a week ←
15:04:48 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: we have to think about f2f agenda
Axel Polleres: we have to think about f2f agenda ←
15:04:51 <Souri> Zakim, mute me
Souripriya Das: Zakim, mute me ←
15:04:51 <Zakim> Souri should now be muted
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15:04:59 <ivanH> ... i am already discussing with lee
... i am already discussing with lee ←
15:05:06 <ivanH> ... main issue is to go towards last call
... main issue is to go towards last call ←
15:05:20 <ivanH> ... that is also look at the issues list
... that is also look at the issues list ←
15:05:29 <ivanH> ... if editors can look at their priorities
... if editors can look at their priorities ←
15:05:32 <ivanH> topic: comments
15:05:32 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/Comments ←
15:05:59 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: we have all open comments assigned last times
Axel Polleres: we have all open comments assigned last time ←
15:06:03 <ivanH> s/times/time/
15:06:12 <ivanH> ... aggregate is on the agenda for later today
... aggregate is on the agenda for later today ←
15:06:21 <ivanH> ... anybody has any news to report?
... anybody has any news to report? ←
15:06:31 <ivanH> once... twice... ... ...
once... twice... ... ... ←
15:06:41 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: none
Axel Polleres: none ←
15:06:45 <ivanH> topic: liaisons
15:06:54 <ivanH> rdb2rdf, egov, and rif
rdb2rdf, egov, and rif ←
15:06:58 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: anything to report?
Axel Polleres: anything to report? ←
15:07:06 <bglimm> Zakim, mute me
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15:07:06 <Zakim> bglimm should now be muted
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15:07:16 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: sandro, would you mind to take over the liaison to rif?
Axel Polleres: sandro, would you mind to take over the liaison to rif? ←
15:07:19 <ivanH> sandro: is fine
Sandro Hawke: is fine ←
15:07:36 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: any issues you would be aware of?
Axel Polleres: any issues you would be aware of? ←
15:07:36 <Souri> zakim, unmute me
Souripriya Das: zakim, unmute me ←
15:07:36 <Zakim> Souri should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Souri should no longer be muted ←
15:07:37 <ivanH> sandro: none
Sandro Hawke: none ←
15:07:45 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: rdb2rdf?
Axel Polleres: rdb2rdf? ←
15:08:01 <ivanH> Souri: nothing major, we did two groups now
Souripriya Das: nothing major, we did two groups now ←
15:08:14 <Zakim> +??P48
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P48 ←
15:08:24 <ivanH> ... we are working on two sets of documents and then on use cases, nothing related to sparql
... we are working on two sets of documents and then on use cases, nothing related to sparql ←
15:08:27 <Souri> zakim, mute me
Souripriya Das: zakim, mute me ←
15:08:27 <Zakim> Souri should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Souri should now be muted ←
15:08:34 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: SteveH anything for egov?
Axel Polleres: SteveH anything for egov? ←
15:08:50 <ivanH> SteveH: I cannot really see to participate on that group, would be good to have another liaison
Steve Harris: I cannot really see to participate on that group, would be good to have another liaison ←
15:08:54 <ivanH> sandro: that would be me :-(
Sandro Hawke: that would be me :-( ←
15:09:05 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: would you be able to report occasionally?
Axel Polleres: would you be able to report occasionally? ←
15:09:12 <ivanH> sandro: I will try...
Sandro Hawke: I will try... ←
15:09:34 <ivanH> topic: summary on sd issues
15:10:00 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/0245.html
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/0245.html ←
15:10:05 <kasei> Zakim, unmute me
Gregory Williams: Zakim, unmute me ←
15:10:05 <Zakim> kasei should no longer be muted
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15:10:31 <ivanH> kasei: the recent comment and my response yesterday sums up the state
Gregory Williams: the recent comment and my response yesterday sums up the state ←
15:10:39 <ivanH> ... the first thing is the available graph issue
... the first thing is the available graph issue ←
15:10:39 <kasei> http://kasei.us/2009/09/sparql/sd-example.ttl
Gregory Williams: http://kasei.us/2009/09/sparql/sd-example.ttl ←
15:10:55 <ivanH> kasei: i have been keeping up to date on the comments on that
Gregory Williams: i have been keeping up to date on the comments on that ←
15:11:09 <ivanH> ... the modeling of the available graphs is in the ??? descriptions
... the modeling of the available graphs is in the ??? descriptions ←
15:11:19 <ivanH> ... I think lee's suggestion is the right way to move forwards
... I think lee's suggestion is the right way to move forwards ←
15:11:26 <ivanH> ... modulo the name
... modulo the name ←
15:11:33 <ivanH> ... we would have graph collections
... we would have graph collections ←
15:11:44 <ivanH> ... resources would bring together all available the graph collection
... resources would bring together all available the graph collection ←
15:14:02 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: you said a dataset is a subclass of collection
Axel Polleres: you said a dataset is a subclass of collection ←
15:14:22 <ivanH> kasei: it remains any number of named graphs, but it also contains a default graph
Gregory Williams: it remains any number of named graphs, but it also contains a default graph ←
15:14:38 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: the question was whether we would advertise different datasets?
Axel Polleres: the question was whether we would advertise different datasets? ←
15:14:55 <ivanH> kasei: we talked about that earlier and we agreed that it would not make sense to define more datasets
Gregory Williams: we talked about that earlier and we agreed that it would not make sense to define more datasets ←
15:15:00 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: ok
Axel Polleres: ok ←
15:15:06 <AxelPolleres> q?
Axel Polleres: q? ←
15:15:34 <AxelPolleres> ack ??P32
Axel Polleres: ack ??P32 ←
15:15:52 <LukeWM> ??P32 is us
Luke Wilson-Mawer: ??P32 is us ←
15:15:57 <LukeWM> we shouldn't be on the queue
Luke Wilson-Mawer: we shouldn't be on the queue ←
15:15:58 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: what is the concrete issue on that particular question
Axel Polleres: what is the concrete issue on that particular question ←
15:16:12 <ivanH> kasei: i do not believe there was any open issues on that
Gregory Williams: i do not believe there was any open issues on that ←
15:16:14 <ivanH> ... will check
... will check ←
15:16:23 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: what is next on your list
Axel Polleres: what is next on your list ←
15:16:27 <LukeWM> zakim, ack ??P32
Luke Wilson-Mawer: zakim, ack ??P32 ←
15:16:27 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
Zakim IRC Bot: I see no one on the speaker queue ←
15:16:30 <ivanH> kasei: property functions issue
Gregory Williams: property functions issue ←
15:16:37 <ivanH> ... i have heard arguments on both sides
... i have heard arguments on both sides ←
15:16:45 <AxelPolleres> next issue... property functions declarations
Axel Polleres: next issue... property functions declarations ←
15:16:52 <ivanH> ... whether we would support an explicit name property function that a service supports
... whether we would support an explicit name property function that a service supports ←
15:16:58 <ivanH> ... i would be fine including this
... i would be fine including this ←
15:17:05 <ivanH> ... lee expressed concerns
... lee expressed concerns ←
15:17:16 <ivanH> ... wording would be tricky, there is no spec we can refer to
... wording would be tricky, there is no spec we can refer to ←
15:17:30 <ivanH> ... it is legal under sparql but is not discussed anywhere
... it is legal under sparql but is not discussed anywhere ←
15:17:45 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: we have not even had this under the elected features
Axel Polleres: we have not even had this under the elected features ←
15:17:58 <SteveH> +1
Steve Harris: +1 ←
15:18:01 <SteveH> not +1
Steve Harris: not +1 ←
15:18:03 <SteveH> q+
Steve Harris: q+ ←
15:18:14 <ivanH> kasei: it seems that it exists in the gray area like the default graph being the union of all named graphs, is there and not explicitly discussed in the spec
Gregory Williams: it seems that it exists in the gray area like the default graph being the union of all named graphs, is there and not explicitly discussed in the spec ←
15:18:29 <ivanH> kasei: i am willing to include it unless somebody objects and modulo a proper wording
Gregory Williams: i am willing to include it unless somebody objects and modulo a proper wording ←
15:18:43 <ivanH> SteveH: i would object to it
Steve Harris: i would object to it ←
15:19:01 <ivanH> ... it is bizarre to standardize
... it is bizarre to standardize ←
15:19:18 <ivanH> ... the example of default graph is explicitly in the spec, so this is not the same
... the example of default graph is explicitly in the spec, so this is not the same ←
15:19:33 <ivanH> kasei: i am not sure they are all that difference on the level of specing in the documents
Gregory Williams: i am not sure they are all that difference on the level of specing in the documents ←
15:19:35 <AxelPolleres> some reservations against saying something about property functions...
Axel Polleres: some reservations against saying something about property functions... ←
15:19:54 <ivanH> SteveH: a section in the spec that explicitly does that
Steve Harris: a section in the spec that explicitly does that ←
15:20:03 <ivanH> ... I forget exactly which
... I forget exactly which ←
15:20:23 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: we have a dataset description out of our scope, we refer to VoiD
Axel Polleres: we have a dataset description out of our scope, we refer to VoiD ←
15:20:38 <ivanH> ... would not this a possible candidate for extension like VoiD?
... would not this a possible candidate for extension like VoiD? ←
15:20:48 <ivanH> ... although we do not have any external spec
... although we do not have any external spec ←
15:20:55 <SteveH> kasei, section 8.1 "RDF data can be combined by the RDF merge [RDF-MT] of graphs. One possible arrangement of graphs in an RDF Dataset is to have the default graph be the RDF merge of some or all of the information in the named graphs."
Steve Harris: kasei, section 8.1 "RDF data can be combined by the RDF merge [RDF-MT] of graphs. One possible arrangement of graphs in an RDF Dataset is to have the default graph be the RDF merge of some or all of the information in the named graphs." ←
15:21:06 <ivanH> kasei: the difference that VoiD fits nicely to the way we model things
Gregory Williams: the difference that VoiD fits nicely to the way we model things ←
15:21:35 <ivanH> ... here we would have a property referring to a URI describing the function
... here we would have a property referring to a URI describing the function ←
15:21:39 <ivanH> ... but we lack the spec
... but we lack the spec ←
15:22:17 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: there is a difference in how it works, but both have an ontology describing that thing
Axel Polleres: there is a difference in how it works, but both have an ontology describing that thing ←
15:22:37 <ivanH> ... if we have a link describing a dataset, couldn't have a link to something describing the property function
... if we have a link describing a dataset, couldn't have a link to something describing the property function ←
15:22:44 <ivanH> ... i am not 100% sure
... i am not 100% sure ←
15:22:56 <ivanH> kasei: i would be hesitant to merge those two
Gregory Williams: i would be hesitant to merge those two ←
15:23:41 <ivanH> ... if two datasets are implemented by two services, one having a function and the other not, you do not want to describe that as part of the dataset description, this is an implementation issue
... if two datasets are implemented by two services, one having a function and the other not, you do not want to describe that as part of the dataset description, this is an implementation issue ←
15:24:09 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: you would like to have it, and SteveH does not, we may want to open an issue and solve that at some point
Axel Polleres: you would like to have it, and SteveH does not, we may want to open an issue and solve that at some point ←
15:24:29 <ivanH> SteveH: it seems very peculiar for a rec on a feature that is not being standardized
Steve Harris: it seems very peculiar for a rec on a feature that is not being standardized ←
15:24:35 <AxelPolleres> ISSUE: Do we need (descriptions of) property functions in SD? Is this in scope for us?
ISSUE: Do we need (descriptions of) property functions in SD? Is this in scope for us? ←
15:24:35 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-54 - Do we need (descriptions of) property functions in SD? Is this in scope for us? ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/54/edit .
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ISSUE-54 - Do we need (descriptions of) property functions in SD? Is this in scope for us? ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/track/issues/54/edit . ←
15:24:46 <ivanH> kasei: part of the motivation that one can describe implementations that are convergent
Gregory Williams: part of the motivation that one can describe implementations that are convergent ←
15:24:55 <ivanH> ... many people have this feature and is widely implemented
... many people have this feature and is widely implemented ←
15:25:14 <ivanH> ... my support for this is very mild at this point
... my support for this is very mild at this point ←
15:25:37 <ivanH> .... lee's suggestion is that it is so widely implemented and it requires very little for our part adding it
.... lee's suggestion is that it is so widely implemented and it requires very little for our part adding it ←
15:27:08 <ivanH> SteveH: to be useful we have to standardize the actual function;
Steve Harris: to be useful we have to standardize the actual function; ←
15:27:21 <ivanH> kasei: you can do that in the extension functions already
Gregory Williams: you can do that in the extension functions already ←
15:28:13 <ivanH> orri: you cannot refer to a standard name that you cannot define
Orri Erling: you cannot refer to a standard name that you cannot define ←
15:28:26 <ivanH> .. it would be very useful if this behaviour did have a name
.. it would be very useful if this behaviour did have a name ←
15:28:43 <ivanH> ... even standardizing what we mean would not ask for lots of space in the document
... even standardizing what we mean would not ask for lots of space in the document ←
15:28:48 <pgearon> I'd like to see a description that listed predicates that provide property functions
Paula Gearon: I'd like to see a description that listed predicates that provide property functions ←
15:28:50 <AxelPolleres> link to the email?
Axel Polleres: link to the email? ←
15:29:12 <ivanH> kasei: we could say that if you see that property function it would act differently
Gregory Williams: we could say that if you see that property function it would act differently ←
15:29:23 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: any more new insight at this point?
Axel Polleres: any more new insight at this point? ←
15:29:29 <pgearon> +1 to what kasei said
Paula Gearon: +1 to what kasei said ←
15:29:30 <ivanH> ... or put it on email
... or put it on email ←
15:29:48 <kasei> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/0316.html
Gregory Williams: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg/2010JanMar/0316.html ←
15:30:05 <chimezie> I would be interested in seeing how the current spec can be said to provide a mechanism for this
Chimezie Ogbuji: I would be interested in seeing how the current spec can be said to provide a mechanism for this ←
15:30:09 <chimezie> because I don't see how it would
Chimezie Ogbuji: because I don't see how it would ←
15:30:22 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: I would suggest that people who care about this responds
Axel Polleres: I would suggest that people who care about this responds ←
15:30:39 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: is there anything else?
Axel Polleres: is there anything else? ←
15:30:48 <kasei> having trouble hearing over typing
Gregory Williams: having trouble hearing over typing ←
15:31:16 <ivanH> kasei: the other issues are not controversial just have to be done
Gregory Williams: the other issues are not controversial just have to be done ←
15:31:34 <kasei> still need to talk about issue 43?
Gregory Williams: still need to talk about ISSUE-43? ←
15:31:52 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: one more comment, there was one issue on entailment
Axel Polleres: one more comment, there was one issue on entailment ←
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15:32:08 <ivanH> ... whether we can different entailment on different graphs
... whether we can different entailment on different graphs ←
15:32:28 <ivanH> bglimm: ?? wanted to say that one graph uses rdfs and the other one simple, for example
Birte Glimm: AndyS wanted to say that one graph uses rdfs and the other one simple, for example ←
15:32:37 <bglimm> s/??/AndyS
15:32:52 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: that is issue 43, which is still open
Axel Polleres: that is ISSUE-43, which is still open ←
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15:34:07 <kasei> scribenick: kasei
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15:34:09 <ivanH> zakim, dial ivanH-voip
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15:34:26 <AxelPolleres> ISSUE-43 ... if we need to have different entailments described, we need aproposal
Axel Polleres: ISSUE-43 ... if we need to have different entailments described, we need aproposal ←
15:34:52 <ivanH> subtopic: powder
15:34:59 <AxelPolleres> greg?
Axel Polleres: greg? ←
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15:35:04 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: any powder expertise
Axel Polleres: any powder expertise ←
15:35:25 <ivanH> kasei: this was to see if we can include a way to talk about a collection of graphs
Gregory Williams: this was to see if we can include a way to talk about a collection of graphs ←
15:35:36 <ivanH> ... and powder might be able to do this
... and powder might be able to do this ←
15:35:43 <ivanH> q+
q+ ←
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15:36:05 <AxelPolleres> could anyone jump in here with help on POWDER?
Axel Polleres: could anyone jump in here with help on POWDER? ←
15:36:08 <AxelPolleres> q?
Axel Polleres: q? ←
15:36:08 <SteveH> q-
Steve Harris: q- ←
15:36:14 <ivanH> ack ivanH
ack ivanH ←
15:37:40 <ivanH> ivanH: if somebody asks the question on that, I am happy to try to answer it
Ivan Herman: if somebody asks the question on that, I am happy to try to answer it ←
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15:38:12 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: greg to get back to ivanH on the usabuility of POWDER for SD.
ACTION: greg to get back to ivanH on the usabuility of POWDER for SD. ←
15:38:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-189 - Get back to ivanH on the usabuility of POWDER for SD. [on Gregory Williams - due 2010-02-23].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-189 - Get back to ivanH on the usabuility of POWDER for SD. [on Gregory Williams - due 2010-02-23]. ←
15:38:35 <ivanH> topic: alternative aggregate design, comment form della valle
15:38:40 <AxelPolleres> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Feb/0006.html
Axel Polleres: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-dawg-comments/2010Feb/0006.html ←
15:38:41 <ivanH> s/form/from/
15:38:54 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: we had an action on SteveH
Axel Polleres: we had an action on SteveH ←
15:39:06 <ivanH> ... is it too early to discuss it?
... is it too early to discuss it? ←
15:39:20 <ivanH> SteveH: I do not feel to have a good grasp on what it does
Steve Harris: I do not feel to have a good grasp on what it does ←
15:39:29 <ivanH> ... it seems to be just syntax
... it seems to be just syntax ←
15:39:41 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: i read through it and wrote a mail to the list with open questions
Axel Polleres: i read through it and wrote a mail to the list with open questions ←
15:39:45 <kasei> Zakim, mute me
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15:39:48 <ivanH> ... mostly clarification questions
... mostly clarification questions ←
15:40:02 <ivanH> ... i would like to get back to to emmanuele
... i would like to get back to to emmanuele ←
15:40:10 <ivanH> ... in general there are merits in the proposal
... in general there are merits in the proposal ←
15:40:30 <ivanH> ... the main benefit seems to be that it allows to define several aggregates on the same solution set in parallel
... the main benefit seems to be that it allows to define several aggregates on the same solution set in parallel ←
15:40:35 <ivanH> ... i am not sure we can do that
... i am not sure we can do that ←
15:40:48 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: we would need to have several subqueries
Axel Polleres: we would need to have several subqueries ←
15:41:02 <ivanH> SteveH: you cannot have different groupings on aggregate functions
Steve Harris: you cannot have different groupings on aggregate functions ←
15:41:09 <ivanH> ... in the current syntax
... in the current syntax ←
15:41:29 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: he had an example where he can do something more concise than we cat
Axel Polleres: he had an example where he can do something more concise than we cat ←
15:41:45 <ivanH> orri: sql has a model with different grouping for aggregates
Orri Erling: sql has a model with different grouping for aggregates ←
15:42:04 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: orri, could you look at that mail as well to see how this is addressed
Axel Polleres: orri, could you look at that mail as well to see how this is addressed ←
15:42:33 <ivanH> orri: on the sql side we can do this rollup side, and it would be quite possible to take the sql semantics to sparql
Orri Erling: on the sql side we can do this rollup side, and it would be quite possible to take the sql semantics to sparql ←
15:42:39 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: is it in our scope
Axel Polleres: is it in our scope ←
15:42:49 <ivanH> SteveH: it is in our scope, i am not sure about the syntax
Steve Harris: it is in our scope, i am not sure about the syntax ←
15:43:01 <ivanH> ... you have to know a lot to understand what is happening
... you have to know a lot to understand what is happening ←
15:43:17 <ivanH> ... in its current form it is not very tempting
... in its current form it is not very tempting ←
15:43:30 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: it would be interesting to see how it is done in sql
Axel Polleres: it would be interesting to see how it is done in sql ←
15:43:43 <ivanH> ... Orri, can you get back on that?
... Orri, can you get back on that? ←
15:43:50 <ivanH> Orri: I will look at up
Orri Erling: I will look it up ←
15:43:58 <ivanH> s/at/it/
15:44:06 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Orri to send some comment to the list how multiple groupings at once work in SQL
ACTION: Orri to send some comment to the list how multiple groupings at once work in SQL ←
15:44:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-190 - Send some comment to the list how multiple groupings at once work in SQL [on Orri Erling - due 2010-02-23].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-190 - Send some comment to the list how multiple groupings at once work in SQL [on Orri Erling - due 2010-02-23]. ←
15:44:37 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: in the meantime, if there are no objections, i will get back to emmanuelle for clarification questions though that would not be the official answer
Axel Polleres: in the meantime, if there are no objections, i will get back to emmanuelle for clarification questions though that would not be the official answer ←
15:45:12 <Zakim> -AlexPassant
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15:45:32 <ivanH> topic: test cases
15:45:50 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: there is some wiki page
Axel Polleres: there is some wiki page ←
15:45:55 <ivanH> ... not too much at the moment
... not too much at the moment ←
15:46:24 <AxelPolleres> http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Testing&action=edit
Axel Polleres: http://www.w3.org/2009/sparql/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Testing&action=edit ←
15:46:30 <Zakim> +??P1
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15:46:33 <AlexPassant> Zakim, ??p1 is me
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15:46:33 <Zakim> +AlexPassant; got it
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15:46:38 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: the main point is to define test cases
Axel Polleres: the main point is to define test cases ←
15:46:57 <ivanH> ... the mail of emmanuelle brings in some interesting test cases
... the mail of emmanuelle brings in some interesting test cases ←
15:47:08 <ivanH> ... the question is who would do it, what is the way to proceed
... the question is who would do it, what is the way to proceed ←
15:47:13 <AxelPolleres> ... we have some in the spec?
Axel Polleres: ... we have some in the spec? ←
15:47:15 <ivanH> ... opinions?
... opinions? ←
15:47:33 <AxelPolleres> q?
Axel Polleres: q? ←
15:47:35 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: any experience how the test cases were elaborated in the last group?
Axel Polleres: any experience how the test cases were elaborated in the last group? ←
15:47:51 <ivanH> (more enthusiasm required!!!)
(more enthusiasm required!!!) ←
15:47:57 <Souri> Lee would be the best person to do that
Souripriya Das: Lee would be the best person to do that ←
15:48:19 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: we can pick some victims to extract the test cases in the form of examples
Axel Polleres: we can pick some victims to extract the test cases in the form of examples ←
15:48:28 <ivanH> ... and elaborate the test cases
... and elaborate the test cases ←
15:48:40 <ivanH> ... we could do that for query, update, etc
... we could do that for query, update, etc ←
15:48:51 <ivanH> ... what we need is basically volounteers
... what we need is basically volounteers ←
15:49:09 <ivanH> (Axel desperately trying to generate enthusiasm...)
(Axel desperately trying to generate enthusiasm...) ←
15:49:47 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: if nobody comes forward I can make some starting points and pick victims
Axel Polleres: if nobody comes forward I can make some starting points and pick victims ←
15:49:54 <ivanH> ... if nothing else works
... if nothing else works ←
15:50:16 <ivanH> (everybody ducks...)
(everybody ducks...) ←
15:51:18 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: if I look at the features than we have aggregate functions, update, service descriptions, and of course entailment and property paths
Axel Polleres: if I look at the features than we have aggregate functions, update, service descriptions, and of course entailment and property paths ←
15:51:35 <ivanH> ... and query
... and query ←
15:51:43 <AxelPolleres> * Query language expressivity
Axel Polleres: * Query language expressivity ←
15:51:43 <AxelPolleres> o Aggregate functions
Axel Polleres: o Aggregate functions ←
15:51:43 <AxelPolleres> o Subqueries
Axel Polleres: o Subqueries ←
15:51:43 <AxelPolleres> o Negation
Axel Polleres: o Negation ←
15:51:44 <AxelPolleres> o Project expressions
Axel Polleres: o Project expressions ←
15:51:44 <AxelPolleres> * Update
Axel Polleres: * Update ←
15:51:46 <AxelPolleres> * Service description
Axel Polleres: * Service description ←
15:51:49 <AxelPolleres> Entailment RDFS
Axel Polleres: Entailment RDFS ←
15:51:55 <AxelPolleres> Entailment OWL
Axel Polleres: Entailment OWL ←
15:52:00 <AxelPolleres> PropertyPaths
Axel Polleres: PropertyPaths ←
15:52:05 <ivanH> ... it would be a good starting point
... it would be a good starting point ←
15:52:24 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: any volounteers for queries and aggregate functions?
Axel Polleres: any volounteers for queries and aggregate functions? ←
15:52:32 <ivanH> ... I might go ahead I might do this
... I might go ahead I might do this ←
15:52:36 <ivanH> :-(
:-( ←
15:52:45 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to collect test cases for aggegate functions
ACTION: Axel to collect test cases for aggegate functions ←
15:52:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-191 - Collect test cases for aggegate functions [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-02-23].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-191 - Collect test cases for aggegate functions [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-02-23]. ←
15:52:52 <dcharbon2> I volunteer for subqueries
David Charboneau: I volunteer for subqueries ←
15:53:05 <OlivierCorby> I am ok 2
Olivier Corby: I am ok 2 ←
15:53:32 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: David to collect testcases for subqueries
ACTION: David to collect testcases for subqueries ←
15:53:32 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - David
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15:53:32 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. dcharbon2, dnewman2)
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15:53:54 <ivanH> action: dcharbon2 to collect test cases for subqueries
ACTION: dcharbon2 to collect test cases for subqueries ←
15:53:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-192 - Collect test cases for subqueries [on David Charboneau - due 2010-02-23].
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15:53:56 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Olivier to collect testcases for subqueries
ACTION: Olivier to collect testcases for subqueries ←
15:53:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-193 - Collect testcases for subqueries [on Olivier Corby - due 2010-02-23].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-193 - Collect testcases for subqueries [on Olivier Corby - due 2010-02-23]. ←
15:54:52 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: chime to collect testcases for negation
ACTION: chime to collect testcases for negation ←
15:54:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-194 - Collect testcases for negation [on Chimezie Ogbuji - due 2010-02-23].
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15:55:28 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Olivier to collect test cases for Project Expressions.
ACTION: Olivier to collect test cases for Project Expressions. ←
15:55:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-195 - Collect test cases for Project Expressions. [on Olivier Corby - due 2010-02-23].
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15:55:37 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Axel to collect test cases for Project Expressions.
ACTION: Axel to collect test cases for Project Expressions. ←
15:55:37 <trackbot> Created ACTION-196 - Collect test cases for Project Expressions. [on Axel Polleres - due 2010-02-23].
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15:55:56 <SteveH> q+
Steve Harris: q+ ←
15:56:37 <ivanH> SteveH: the format does not work for update
Steve Harris: the format does not work for update ←
15:56:47 <pgearon> +q
Paula Gearon: +q ←
15:56:49 <ivanH> AxelPolleres: so that has to be updated for update indeed
Axel Polleres: so that has to be updated for update indeed ←
15:56:52 <AxelPolleres> Update... we probably need some format extension for update.
Axel Polleres: Update... we probably need some format extension for update. ←
15:56:53 <ivanH> ack SteveH
ack SteveH ←
15:56:57 <ivanH> ack pgearon
ack pgearon ←
15:57:17 <ivanH> pgearon: i can work to redraft the framework for that
Paula Gearon: i can work to redraft the framework for that ←
15:57:57 <AxelPolleres> ... test cases for update absolutely needs adaption
Axel Polleres: ... test cases for update absolutely needs adaption ←
15:58:11 <ivanH> ... i can work with somebody to ensure that it would be all right
... i can work with somebody to ensure that it would be all right ←
15:58:33 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Paul to get back to Andy to work on how to adapt the test cases format for update.
ACTION: Paul to get back to Andy to work on how to adapt the test cases format for update. ←
15:58:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-197 - Get back to Andy to work on how to adapt the test cases format for update. [on Paul Gearon - due 2010-02-23].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-197 - Get back to Andy to work on how to adapt the test cases format for update. [on Paul Gearon - due 2010-02-23]. ←
15:59:30 <OlivierCorby> ok for property path
Olivier Corby: ok for property path ←
15:59:49 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Olivier to collect test cases for property paths
ACTION: Olivier to collect test cases for property paths ←
15:59:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-198 - Collect test cases for property paths [on Olivier Corby - due 2010-02-23].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-198 - Collect test cases for property paths [on Olivier Corby - due 2010-02-23]. ←
15:59:55 <ivanH> (AxelPolleres has succeeded in creating enthusiasm!!! Kudos:-)
(AxelPolleres has succeeded in creating enthusiasm!!! Kudos:-) ←
16:00:04 <bglimm> Zakim, unmute me
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16:00:09 <sandro> Top of the hour, gotta go.
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16:00:31 <AxelPolleres> ACTION: Birte to collect test cases for entailment
ACTION: Birte to collect test cases for entailment ←
16:00:31 <trackbot> Created ACTION-199 - Collect test cases for entailment [on Birte Glimm - due 2010-02-23].
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16:00:47 <ivanH> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:00:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/16-sparql-minutes.html ivanH
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16:00:52 <LukeWM> bye
Luke Wilson-Mawer: bye ←
16:00:53 <bglimm> Bye.
Birte Glimm: Bye. ←
16:00:54 <kasei> Axel: can you close action 176 for me?
Axel Polleres: can you close ACTION-176 for me? [ Scribe Assist by Gregory Williams ] ←
16:00:56 <Zakim> -??P48
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16:00:56 <Zakim> -chimezie
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16:00:57 <AxelPolleres> adjourned
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16:00:57 <Zakim> -AlexPassant
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16:00:59 <Zakim> -pgearon
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16:01:02 <AxelPolleres> greg, sure.
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Souri ←
16:01:48 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make records public
Axel Polleres: rrsagent, make records public ←
16:02:19 <ivanH> rrsagent, draft minutes
rrsagent, draft minutes ←
16:02:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/16-sparql-minutes.html ivanH
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/02/16-sparql-minutes.html ivanH ←
16:02:39 <ivanH> axel, should I make the dance on the minutes?
axel, should I make the dance on the minutes? ←
16:02:58 <AxelPolleres> can do, no worries
Axel Polleres: can do, no worries ←
16:03:15 <ivanH> ok, then I leave it to you...
ok, then I leave it to you... ←
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