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00:00:10 <LeeF> consensus that we need a formal model (an algebra probably) for what all of the update operations mean, probably including what a dataset is/means
Lee Feigenbaum: consensus that we need a formal model (an algebra probably) for what all of the update operations mean, probably including what a dataset is/means ←
00:00:20 <LeeF> ...or a graph store
Lee Feigenbaum: ...or a graph store ←
00:00:24 <LeeF> ...and/or a graph store
Lee Feigenbaum: ...and/or a graph store ←
00:02:17 <AxelPolleres> scibe: Axel Polleres
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00:02:26 <AxelPolleres> scribe: Axel Polleres
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00:02:51 <AxelPolleres> LeeF: what did we miss in the Agenda?
Lee Feigenbaum: what did we miss in the Agenda? ←
00:03:21 <AxelPolleres> Dave: How will you do propertypaths?
David Newman: How will you do propertypaths? ←
00:03:46 <AxelPolleres> ... seems that HCLS will need it
... seems that HCLS will need it ←
00:04:11 <AxelPolleres> ... will be substantial work for implementers
... will be substantial work for implementers ←
00:04:47 <AxelPolleres> other time allowed features:
other time allowed features: ←
00:05:28 <AxelPolleres> entailment, basic federated queries, function library
entailment, basic federated queries, function library ←
00:06:19 <AxelPolleres> BETWEEN would be sugar, IN probably not
BETWEEN would be sugar, IN probably not ←
00:06:28 <AxelPolleres> steve: I'd like IN
Steve Harris: I'd like IN ←
00:07:17 <AxelPolleres> axel: what about list accessors... we had them in property paths?
Axel Polleres: what about list accessors... we had them in property paths? ←
00:07:37 <AxelPolleres> LeeF: we probably should adjourn
Lee Feigenbaum: we probably should adjourn ←
00:08:24 <AxelPolleres> Dave: scope of function library?
David Newman: scope of function library? ←
00:09:03 <Zakim> +bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: +bglimm ←
00:09:15 <AxelPolleres> LeeF: mainly xpath string and math functions
Lee Feigenbaum: mainly xpath string and math functions ←
00:09:31 <AxelPolleres> ... IF THEN, COALESCE, maybe
... IF THEN, COALESCE, maybe ←
00:09:45 <AxelPolleres> SteveH: group-concat
Steve Harris: group-concat ←
00:10:19 <AxelPolleres> LeeF: Birte? anything on entailment?
Lee Feigenbaum: Birte? anything on entailment? ←
00:11:12 <AxelPolleres> Birte: Entailment-telecon on Friday
Birte Glimm: Entailment-telecon on Friday ←
00:11:29 <AxelPolleres> ... we could quickly discuss entailment URIs
... we could quickly discuss entailment URIs ←
00:13:16 <AxelPolleres> Birte: RIF, OWL RL, RDFS don't have owl:imports
Birte Glimm: RIF, OWL RL, RDFS don't have owl:imports ←
00:14:12 <AxelPolleres> Sandro: Axel and I will go back to RIF and will probably suggest them to add something like rif:imports
Sandro Hawke: Axel and I will go back to RIF and will probably suggest them to add something like rif:imports ←
00:14:32 <AxelPolleres> ... alternative would be a RIF->RDF serialisation, prbably more difficult
... alternative would be a RIF->RDF serialisation, prbably more difficult ←
00:14:51 <AxelPolleres> Birte: there is RDF/XML for SWRL rules
Birte Glimm: there is RDF/XML for SWRL rules ←
00:15:56 <AxelPolleres> Sandro: needed talking to some people (Pat, Peter...)
Sandro Hawke: needed talking to some people (Pat, Peter...) ←
00:17:01 <AxelPolleres> Sandro: Does the client have an option to define the entailment?
Sandro Hawke: Does the client have an option to define the entailment? ←
00:18:37 <AxelPolleres> Axel: So far, we have only said that Entailment doc will define what X-Entailment means, but not how to request/advertise it.
Axel Polleres: So far, we have only said that Entailment doc will define what X-Entailment means, but not how to request/advertise it. ←
00:19:19 <bglimm> So far the client cannot choose or define its own entailment
Birte Glimm: So far the client cannot choose or define its own entailment ←
00:19:21 <AxelPolleres> ... Service Description has so far minimal means for it, but we had discussions of different use cases (Andy brought up that there might be a need for different entailments on different graphs)
... Service Description has so far minimal means for it, but we had discussions of different use cases (Andy brought up that there might be a need for different entailments on different graphs) ←
00:19:39 <AxelPolleres> ... so far, nothing in protocol
... so far, nothing in protocol ←
00:20:37 <AxelPolleres> Gregory: doesn't that mean that you'd need to do all possible entailments (in case you have fwd-chaining)
Gregory Williams: doesn't that mean that you'd need to do all possible entailments (in case you have fwd-chaining) ←
00:23:00 <AxelPolleres> Birte: sandro said at the moment you can't say you are an incomplete OWL/RDFS implementation.
Birte Glimm: sandro said at the moment you can't say you are an incomplete OWL/RDFS implementation. ←
00:23:20 <AxelPolleres> ... not sure whether we want to go that way.
... not sure whether we want to go that way. ←
00:23:32 <AxelPolleres> ... at the moment we can't describe that.
... at the moment we can't describe that. ←
00:25:22 <AxelPolleres> ... e.g. OWL2RL supporting inference engine can still do reasoning, but incomplete on OWL DL
... e.g. OWL2RL supporting inference engine can still do reasoning, but incomplete on OWL DL ←
00:26:31 <AxelPolleres> Sandro: OWL2RL doesn't do all it can (example by Paul)
Sandro Hawke: OWL2RL doesn't do all it can (example by Paul) ←
00:27:18 <AxelPolleres> Birte: OWL2RL is not really an entailment regime.
Birte Glimm: OWL2RL is not really an entailment regime. ←
00:29:36 <AxelPolleres> Axel: that was the whole idea of RIF-based entailment regime from my side.
Axel Polleres: that was the whole idea of RIF-based entailment regime from my side. ←
00:31:28 <AxelPolleres> Sandro: Don't see much sense in advertising entailment regime
Sandro Hawke: Don't see much sense in advertising entailment regime ←
00:31:49 <AxelPolleres> Axel: It makes sense to know which work is "already done" inside the query engine.
Axel Polleres: It makes sense to know which work is "already done" inside the query engine. ←
00:33:09 <AxelPolleres> ... but that's not trivial.
... but that's not trivial. ←
00:35:31 <AxelPolleres> Axel: I would personally like a way to request entailment, but that's personal opinion and at this point, I don't see it happen in the standard (more important things).
Axel Polleres: I would personally like a way to request entailment, but that's personal opinion and at this point, I don't see it happen in the standard (more important things). ←
00:36:25 <AxelPolleres> Sandro: is SPARQL extensible in the way that you can add such a request for entailment?
Sandro Hawke: is SPARQL extensible in the way that you can add such a request for entailment? ←
00:36:26 <pgearon> I figured that I could shoehorn this approach into anything the working group comes up with :-)
Paula Gearon: I figured that I could shoehorn this approach into anything the working group comes up with :-) ←
00:36:47 <bglimm> Some people do that, materialise inferences
Birte Glimm: Some people do that, materialise inferences ←
00:37:06 <AxelPolleres> LeeF: in the language it would be a syntax error, in the protocol it would be ignored.
Lee Feigenbaum: in the language it would be a syntax error, in the protocol it would be ignored. ←
00:38:02 <AxelPolleres> Steve: I have reservations on putting it in the language.
Steve Harris: I have reservations on putting it in the language. ←
00:38:33 <pgearon> I've been considering creating graphs based on original data that contains only entailments. So for a graph named foo:bar, then entailed data might exist in foo:bar_entailed. By default, queries will be applied to their union.
Paula Gearon: I've been considering creating graphs based on original data that contains only entailments. So for a graph named foo:bar, then entailed data might exist in foo:bar_entailed. By default, queries will be applied to their union. ←
00:38:42 <pgearon> I figured that I could shoehorn this approach into anything the working group comes up with
Paula Gearon: I figured that I could shoehorn this approach into anything the working group comes up with ←
00:39:20 <AxelPolleres> sandro: that would indicate the need for something like pragmas
Sandro Hawke: that would indicate the need for something like pragmas ←
00:39:35 <pgearon> bglimm, yes, this id for materializing inferences. This appears to be the best approach for rules. Though the entailed graph can be in RAM
Paula Gearon: bglimm, yes, this is for materializing inferences. This appears to be the best approach for rules. Though the entailed graph can be in RAM ←
00:39:45 <pgearon> s/id/is/
00:39:59 <kasei> Zakim, who is on the phone?
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00:39:59 <Zakim> On the phone I see Suite_a, bglimm
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00:40:01 <Zakim> Suite_a has leef, steveh, sandro, dajobe, kasei, axelpolleres
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00:40:01 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
00:40:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see Suite_a, bglimm
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00:40:03 <Zakim> Suite_a has leef, steveh, sandro, dajobe, kasei, axelpolleres
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00:40:17 <sandro> pgearon, are you available to call in, if we want to talk about something interesing?
Sandro Hawke: pgearon, are you available to call in, if we want to talk about something interesing? ←
00:40:35 <pgearon> yes, though LeeF told me out of band that you were wrapping up
Paula Gearon: yes, though LeeF told me out of band that you were wrapping up ←
00:41:07 <pgearon> so I stayed out
Paula Gearon: so I stayed out ←
00:41:35 <Zakim> +pgearon
Zakim IRC Bot: +pgearon ←
00:42:27 <AxelPolleres> probably defining entailment-request as part of the protocol too much of a burden in this stage, even if a simple proposal was made.
probably defining entailment-request as part of the protocol too much of a burden in this stage, even if a simple proposal was made. ←
00:42:34 <pgearon> Hector Perez-Urbina had a very interesting paper at ISWC
Paula Gearon: Hector Perez-Urbina had a very interesting paper at ISWC ←
00:42:39 <sandro> sandro: I think it's okay to leave out client-server negotiation about entailment regimes from SPARQL 1.1 Folks can easily experiment for now now, and add it later.
Sandro Hawke: I think it's okay to leave out client-server negotiation about entailment regimes from SPARQL 1.1 Folks can easily experiment for now now, and add it later. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
00:42:57 <AxelPolleres> defninitly, not normative.
defninitly, not normative. ←
00:43:19 <AxelPolleres> paul: was looking at rules for entailment, cover most of what people wanna do.
Paula Gearon: was looking at rules for entailment, cover most of what people wanna do. ←
00:44:00 <AxelPolleres> </chairhat>http://axel.deri.ie/~axepol/presentations/20091029iann-etal-ISWC2009_GiaBATA.pptx<chairhat>
</chairhat>http://axel.deri.ie/~axepol/presentations/20091029iann-etal-ISWC2009_GiaBATA.pptx<chairhat> ←
00:44:33 <AxelPolleres> sandro: is this part of service description?
Sandro Hawke: is this part of service description? ←
00:45:09 <AxelPolleres> paul: we can put it there, but not per graph, probably, that's difficult with many graphs.
Paula Gearon: we can put it there, but not per graph, probably, that's difficult with many graphs. ←
00:45:20 <AxelPolleres> ... not standard, at least
... not standard, at least ←
00:45:55 <AxelPolleres> kasei: pointing to the non-mandatory parts of service-descriptions discussed earlier.
Gregory Williams: pointing to the non-mandatory parts of service-descriptions discussed earlier. ←
00:46:44 <bglimm> so a graph/resource has a description that also says which entailments have been/will be applied to that graph?
Birte Glimm: so a graph/resource has a description that also says which entailments have been/will be applied to that graph? ←
00:47:38 <AxelPolleres> Axel: by the rdfs:domain of sd:supportedEntailment we prohibit that the same property is used for describing graphs
Axel Polleres: by the rdfs:domain of sd:supportedEntailment we prohibit that the same property is used for describing graphs ←
00:48:26 <AxelPolleres> discussion whether we need description whether one graph entails the other in SD.
discussion whether we need description whether one graph entails the other in SD. ←
00:48:43 <bglimm> but that is not what Andy wanted
Birte Glimm: but that is not what Andy wanted ←
00:49:56 <pgearon> bglimm, I'm describing a system where graph resources (ie. the name for a graph) has a description which says where entailments for it have been generated
Paula Gearon: bglimm, I'm describing a system where graph resources (ie. the name for a graph) has a description which says where entailments for it have been generated ←
00:49:59 <AxelPolleres> sandro: <g1> <..../entailment/RDFS> <g2>
Sandro Hawke: <g1> <..../entailment/RDFS> <g2> ←
00:50:19 <AxelPolleres> axel: uuuuh, sounds scary to reuse entailment URIs as predicates.
Axel Polleres: uuuuh, sounds scary to reuse entailment URIs as predicates. ←
00:50:23 <bglimm> ah, ok, sound quality is quite bad, so I can not understand everything
Birte Glimm: ah, ok, sound quality is quite bad, so I can not understand everything ←
00:51:22 <sandro> sorry, Birte, we're all tentative, so we're speaking more softly.
Sandro Hawke: sorry, Birte, we're all tentative, so we're speaking more softly. ←
00:51:27 <AxelPolleres> discussion whether this should be in mandatory part of SD... probably not.
discussion whether this should be in mandatory part of SD... probably not. ←
00:51:58 <AxelPolleres> Birte: use case of Andy, was querying for subclasses and/or direct-subclasses.
Birte Glimm: use case of Andy, was querying for subclasses and/or direct-subclasses. ←
00:52:24 <AxelPolleres> ... andy models this by having two graphs, one with simple only, one with RDFS closure
... andy models this by having two graphs, one with simple only, one with RDFS closure ←
00:55:21 <AxelPolleres> Axel: Question is: Do we want SD to cover that? Do we want existing properties such as sd:supportedEntailment to be usable that way (i.e. describing Graphs in the dataset, insead of services) ... I personally think we may want to start small.
Axel Polleres: Question is: Do we want SD to cover that? Do we want existing properties such as sd:supportedEntailment to be usable that way (i.e. describing Graphs in the dataset, insead of services) ... I personally think we may want to start small. ←
00:55:35 <AxelPolleres> ... in terms of what we put in the core part of SD.
... in terms of what we put in the core part of SD. ←
00:56:03 <AxelPolleres> Axel: propose to adjourn
Axel Polleres: propose to adjourn ←
00:56:29 <AxelPolleres> Thanks everybody!
Thanks everybody! ←
00:56:43 <AxelPolleres> rrsagent, make record public
rrsagent, make record public ←
00:57:32 <Zakim> -bglimm
Zakim IRC Bot: -bglimm ←
01:02:23 <dajobe> I was refering to http://www.mnot.net/drafts/draft-nottingham-http-link-header-07.txt
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01:02:40 <dajobe> e.g. Link: <http://example.com/TheBook/chapter2>; rel="previous";
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01:12:35 <kasei> Zakim, who is on the phone?
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01:12:49 <Zakim> -pgearon
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01:12:59 <Zakim> Attendees were kasei, AxelPolleres, AndyS, bglimm, LukeWM, +1.919.543.aaaa, dcharbon2, Prateek, kjetil_, sandro, LeeF, SteveH, dajobe, pgearon
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