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13:52:19 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7332
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13:52:19 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDFa()10:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
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13:52:20 <trackbot> Meeting: RDF Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
13:52:20 <trackbot> Date: 07 July 2011
13:53:23 <manu> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Jul/0006.html
13:53:26 <manu> Chair: Manu
13:53:26 <manu> Guest: Niklas (lindstream) Lindström
13:53:26 <manu> Guest: Stéphane (scor) Corlosquet
13:56:19 <manu> zakim, code?
Manu Sporny: zakim, code? ←
13:56:19 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), manu
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), manu ←
14:00:07 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has now started
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14:00:14 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has ended
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14:00:15 <Zakim> Attendees were
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were ←
14:00:41 <Zakim> SW_RDFa()10:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_RDFa()10:00AM has now started ←
14:00:49 <Zakim> +scor
Zakim IRC Bot: +scor ←
14:00:57 <Zakim> +??P21
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P21 ←
14:01:00 <Zakim> +??P18
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18 ←
14:01:00 <manu> zakim, this is ??P21
Manu Sporny: zakim, this is ??P21 ←
14:01:00 <Zakim> sorry, manu, I do not see a conference named '??P21' in progress or scheduled at this time
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, manu, I do not see a conference named '??P21' in progress or scheduled at this time ←
14:01:07 <manu> zakim, ??P21 is me
Manu Sporny: zakim, ??P21 is me ←
14:01:07 <Zakim> +manu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +manu; got it ←
14:01:20 <Zakim> +??P26
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P26 ←
14:02:02 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software ←
14:02:08 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me ←
14:02:11 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
14:02:14 <MacTed> Zakim, who's here?
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, who's here? ←
14:02:26 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MacTed; got it ←
14:02:30 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should now be muted ←
14:02:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P18, scor, manu, ??P26, MacTed (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P18, scor, manu, ??P26, MacTed (muted) ←
14:02:41 <manu> zakim, ??26 is lindstream
Manu Sporny: zakim, ??26 is lindstream ←
14:02:48 <Steven_> zakim, code?
Steven Pemberton: zakim, code? ←
14:03:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see lindstream, Zakim, RRSAgent, scor, MacTed, Steven_, manu1, danbri, SebastianGermesin, tinkster, manu, gkellogg, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see lindstream, Zakim, RRSAgent, scor, MacTed, Steven_, manu1, danbri, SebastianGermesin, tinkster, manu, gkellogg, trackbot ←
14:03:09 <Zakim> sorry, manu, I do not recognize a party named '??26'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, manu, I do not recognize a party named '??26' ←
14:03:17 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), Steven_
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), Steven_ ←
14:03:23 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?
Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:03:29 <Zakim> -??P26
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P26 ←
14:03:45 <Zakim> +??P26
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P26 ←
14:03:51 <Zakim> +Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven ←
14:03:51 <Steven_> zakim, who is on the phone?
Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:04:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P18, scor, manu, MacTed (muted), ??P26, Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P18, scor, manu, MacTed (muted), ??P26, Steven ←
14:04:07 <gkellogg> zakim, ??P26 is gkellogg
Gregg Kellogg: zakim, ??P26 is gkellogg ←
14:04:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P18, scor, manu, MacTed (muted), ??P26, Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P18, scor, manu, MacTed (muted), ??P26, Steven ←
14:04:31 <lindstream> zakim, ??P18 is me
Niklas Lindström: zakim, ??P18 is me ←
14:04:34 <Zakim> +gkellogg; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +gkellogg; got it ←
14:04:37 <Steven_> zakim, I am Steven
Steven Pemberton: zakim, I am Steven ←
14:04:48 <Zakim> +lindstream; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +lindstream; got it ←
14:04:52 <Zakim> ok, Steven_, I now associate you with Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven_, I now associate you with Steven ←
14:05:15 <gkellogg> zakim, ??P26 is me
Gregg Kellogg: zakim, ??P26 is me ←
14:05:15 <Zakim> I already had ??P26 as gkellogg, gkellogg
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P26 as gkellogg, gkellogg ←
14:06:15 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?
Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:06:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see lindstream, scor, manu, MacTed (muted), gkellogg, Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see lindstream, scor, manu, MacTed (muted), gkellogg, Steven ←
14:06:40 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:06:40 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should no longer be muted ←
14:06:46 <manu> scribe: Ted
(Scribe set to Ted Thibodeau)
14:06:52 <manu> scribenick: MacTed
14:08:16 <manu> Topic: Introduction of Niklas Lindström
14:09:07 <MacTed> lindstream: consultant in Sweden, working with RDF for 6+ years, semantics and fidelity of expression are prime interests
Niklas Lindström: consultant in Sweden, working with RDF for 6+ years, semantics and fidelity of expression are prime interests ←
14:09:43 <MacTed> ... coming back to RDFa from API perspective, but now considering Microdata/mapping concerns
... coming back to RDFa from API perspective, but now considering Microdata/mapping concerns ←
14:10:11 <manu> Topic: Updates on HTML WG position on TAG note
14:10:28 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-html-wg-minutes.html#item09
Manu Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2011/06/30-html-wg-minutes.html#item09 ←
14:10:49 <MacTed> manu: HTML WG has discussed what to do about TAG note; basic response is "need information"
Manu Sporny: HTML WG has discussed what to do about TAG note; basic response is "need information" ←
14:11:05 <Steven_> q+
Steven Pemberton: q+ ←
14:12:16 <MacTed> Steven_: all the more reason why we should send a formal objection
Steven Pemberton: all the more reason why we should send a formal objection ←
14:12:24 <MacTed> manu: better that the TAG does that
Manu Sporny: better that the TAG does that ←
14:12:26 <Steven_> ack me
Steven Pemberton: ack me ←
14:13:37 <MacTed> manu: HTML WG has basically asked TAG to make their concerns more clear and formal, before they will act
Manu Sporny: HTML WG has basically asked TAG to make their concerns more clear and formal, before they will act ←
14:14:01 <MacTed> Steven_: if TAG does so, that's fine. if not, then we should step up.
Steven Pemberton: if TAG does so, that's fine. if not, then we should step up. ←
14:14:38 <MacTed> manu: that's the path we'll take
Manu Sporny: that's the path we'll take ←
14:14:44 <manu> Topic: Review official position e-mail on TAG issue
14:14:54 <manu> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Jul/0007.html
Manu Sporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdfa-wg/2011Jul/0007.html ←
14:16:30 <MacTed> manu: ...reviewing official position email draft, concern by concern...
Manu Sporny: ...reviewing official position email draft, concern by concern... ←
14:17:44 <MacTed> ... "CONCERN: Multiple specifications for the same task" -- effectively, same concern as TAG has expressed.
... "CONCERN: Multiple specifications for the same task" -- effectively, same concern as TAG has expressed. ←
14:18:00 <gkellogg> q+
Gregg Kellogg: q+ ←
14:18:02 <MacTed> ... not "which spec should exist?" but "should there be two specs?"
... not "which spec should exist?" but "should there be two specs?" ←
14:18:47 <lindstream> q+
Niklas Lindström: q+ ←
14:19:00 <manu> ack gkellogg
Manu Sporny: ack gkellogg ←
14:19:03 <MacTed> gkellogg: 2 key questions -- should there be 2 markups, and what is range of data to be marked up?
Gregg Kellogg: 2 key questions -- should there be 2 markups, and what is range of data to be marked up? ←
14:19:34 <MacTed> ... i.e., what is the purpose of metadata markup in HTML? presumably to generate data compatible with other W3C specs, e.g., RDF
... i.e., what is the purpose of metadata markup in HTML? presumably to generate data compatible with other W3C specs, e.g., RDF ←
14:19:50 <manu> ack lindstream
Manu Sporny: ack lindstream ←
14:22:34 <MacTed> q+
q+ ←
14:22:51 <MacTed> (discussion)
(discussion) ←
14:24:23 <lindstream> q+
Niklas Lindström: q+ ←
14:24:35 <MacTed> ack MacTed
ack MacTed ←
14:24:54 <manu> ack MacTed
Manu Sporny: ack MacTed ←
14:25:10 <manu> MacTed: This is a range issue - what use cases are supported?
Ted Thibodeau: This is a range issue - what use cases are supported? [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
14:25:14 <manu> ack lindstream
Manu Sporny: ack lindstream ←
14:25:40 <MacTed> lindstream: apart from use cases (what), microdata raises concern of *how*
Niklas Lindström: apart from use cases (what), microdata raises concern of *how* ←
14:26:18 <MacTed> ... how much do you expose to an expert as opposed to a newbie?
... how much do you expose to an expert as opposed to a newbie? ←
14:27:07 <MacTed> manu: is the important thing, how much complexity do new people have to deal with straight-away?
Manu Sporny: is the important thing, how much complexity do new people have to deal with straight-away? ←
14:27:58 <MacTed> lindstream: that's the gist. e.g., if something looks like a date, is that enough, or does it have to be specifically typed, etc?
Niklas Lindström: that's the gist. e.g., if something looks like a date, is that enough, or does it have to be specifically typed, etc? ←
14:28:18 <scor> bear in mind that the reason why md was created is because RDFa was covering too many use cases and was overkill for the basic web developers... the TF should focus on identifying practical use cases which RDFa covers (and not no md) which make sense for regular web developers (the audience of md)
Stéphane Corlosquet: bear in mind that the reason why md was created is because RDFa was covering too many use cases and was overkill for the basic web developers... the TF should focus on identifying practical use cases which RDFa covers (and not no md) which make sense for regular web developers (the audience of md) ←
14:29:51 <MacTed> manu: `CONCERN: Consensus on "No Change"` -- TAG must know that this really isn't an option
Manu Sporny: `CONCERN: Consensus on "No Change"` -- TAG must know that this really isn't an option ←
14:30:02 <lindstream> q+
Niklas Lindström: q+ ←
14:30:57 <MacTed> lindstream: it's very bad to have two specs for the same thing...
Niklas Lindström: it's very bad to have two specs for the same thing... ←
14:31:45 <MacTed> manu: `CONCERN: Key implementers will choose to not be involved.` XHTML and XForms both had task forces to figure out best way forward; neither was successful because key players didn't play
Manu Sporny: `CONCERN: Key implementers will choose to not be involved.` XHTML and XForms both had task forces to figure out best way forward; neither was successful because key players didn't play ←
14:32:06 <manu> ack lindstream
Manu Sporny: ack lindstream ←
14:32:15 <MacTed> ... advice is, make sure the list we've sent gets involved
... advice is, make sure the list we've sent gets involved ←
14:32:56 <MacTed> ... `CONCERN: Agreement and then non-action` -- everybody agrees on plan, but nobody acts on agreement...
... `CONCERN: Agreement and then non-action` -- everybody agrees on plan, but nobody acts on agreement... ←
14:33:19 <MacTed> ... advice is to actively review commitments and report on follow-through
... advice is to actively review commitments and report on follow-through ←
14:34:38 <MacTed> ... `CONCERN: Slow creation of Task Force` -- if it takes too long to create TF, other WG (RDFa, HTML, others?) timelines are jeopardized
... `CONCERN: Slow creation of Task Force` -- if it takes too long to create TF, other WG (RDFa, HTML, others?) timelines are jeopardized ←
14:35:13 <MacTed> ... advice is to prioritize this TF effort
... advice is to prioritize this TF effort ←
14:35:39 <lindstream> q+
Niklas Lindström: q+ ←
14:35:51 <manu> ack lindstream
Manu Sporny: ack lindstream ←
14:36:34 <MacTed> lindstream: conflicting specs have happened before. this is opportunity for W3C to show they can handle such conflicts...
Niklas Lindström: conflicting specs have happened before. this is opportunity for W3C to show they can handle such conflicts... ←
14:39:18 <MacTed> Steven_: does TAG think that creating this TF is their job?
Steven Pemberton: does TAG think that creating this TF is their job? ←
14:39:35 <MacTed> manu: nobody wants the job... everybody's waiting to see who steps forward
Manu Sporny: nobody wants the job... everybody's waiting to see who steps forward ←
14:39:48 <MacTed> ... we'll nudge TAG to accept responsibility
... we'll nudge TAG to accept responsibility ←
14:40:07 <MacTed> ... `CONCERN: TAG Note is not actionable`
... `CONCERN: TAG Note is not actionable` ←
14:40:36 <MacTed> ... advice: formalize objections & concerns, so that something actually comes of this
... advice: formalize objections & concerns, so that something actually comes of this ←
14:42:03 <MacTed> ACTION: manu to revise email to TAG based on today's discussion, with "last comments" due ASAP mailing list
ACTION: manu to revise email to TAG based on today's discussion, with "last comments" due ASAP mailing list ←
14:42:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-87 - Revise email to TAG based on today's discussion, with "last comments" due ASAP mailing list [on Manu Sporny - due 2011-07-14].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-87 - Revise email to TAG based on today's discussion, with "last comments" due ASAP mailing list [on Manu Sporny - due 2011-07-14]. ←
14:42:25 <manu> Topic: Thoughts on RDFa Basic vs. RDFa Advanced
14:42:35 <manu> http://manu.sporny.org/rdfa/rdfa-core-simplified/diff-20110331.html
Manu Sporny: http://manu.sporny.org/rdfa/rdfa-core-simplified/diff-20110331.html ←
14:43:12 <MacTed> lindstream: Microdata seems to be surface data with no fidelity.
Niklas Lindström: Microdata seems to be surface data with no fidelity. ←
14:43:39 <MacTed> ... can quickly be mapped to triples, if you base off URI of current document
... can quickly be mapped to triples, if you base off URI of current document ←
14:44:56 <MacTed> ... vocab and profile mechanisms could be used to add fidelity
... vocab and profile mechanisms could be used to add fidelity ←
14:45:25 <MacTed> ... somewhat akin to GRDDL
... somewhat akin to GRDDL ←
14:46:17 <manu> This is somewhat akin to the JSON-LD coercion approach: http://json-ld.org/spec/ED/20110615/#type-coercion
Manu Sporny: This is somewhat akin to the JSON-LD coercion approach: http://json-ld.org/spec/ED/20110615/#type-coercion ←
14:47:01 <MacTed> Manu points out similarity of JSON-LD coercion approach: http://json-ld.org/spec/ED/20110615/#type-coercion
Manu points out similarity of JSON-LD coercion approach: http://json-ld.org/spec/ED/20110615/#type-coercion ←
14:47:11 <Zakim> +??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2 ←
14:47:57 <MacTed> lindstream: and also to GLUON: http://dustfeed.blogspot.com/2011/07/resources-in-various-frames-of-json.html
Niklas Lindström: and also to GLUON: http://dustfeed.blogspot.com/2011/07/resources-in-various-frames-of-json.html ←
14:47:58 <gkellogg> q+
Gregg Kellogg: q+ ←
14:49:25 <manu> ack gkellogg
Manu Sporny: ack gkellogg ←
14:49:35 <MacTed> lindstream: this might also answer how to represent RDF connections in RDFa
Niklas Lindström: this might also answer how to represent RDF connections in RDFa ←
14:49:43 <manu> q+ to note browser manufacturers don't like this.
Manu Sporny: q+ to note browser manufacturers don't like this. ←
14:50:01 <lindstream> q+
Niklas Lindström: q+ ←
14:50:26 <MacTed> gkellogg: putting profile in RDFa Advanced seems to make this a less useful path forward...?
Gregg Kellogg: putting profile in RDFa Advanced seems to make this a less useful path forward...? ←
14:50:27 <manu> ack manu
Manu Sporny: ack manu ←
14:50:27 <Zakim> manu, you wanted to note browser manufacturers don't like this.
Zakim IRC Bot: manu, you wanted to note browser manufacturers don't like this. ←
14:51:54 <MacTed> manu: browser vendors are expressing preference for non-RDFa APIs, because they think RDFa API makes caching and other performance issues harder to address
Manu Sporny: browser vendors are expressing preference for non-RDFa APIs, because they think RDFa API makes caching and other performance issues harder to address ←
14:52:23 <MacTed> manu: trouble with profile is that browser has to stop processing, retrieve profile doc, and then resume processing
Manu Sporny: trouble with profile is that browser has to stop processing, retrieve profile doc, and then resume processing ←
14:52:54 <manu> ack lindstream
Manu Sporny: ack lindstream ←
14:52:59 <MacTed> ... browser vendors just don't like profile...
... browser vendors just don't like profile... ←
14:54:30 <MacTed> lindstream: put profile in Basic, but allow basic API processing *without* profile application (and thus low fidelity). Advanced brings profile processing (and high fidelity)...
Niklas Lindström: put profile in Basic, but allow basic API processing *without* profile application (and thus low fidelity). Advanced brings profile processing (and high fidelity)... ←
14:55:20 <manu> zakim, who is on the call?
Manu Sporny: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:55:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see lindstream, scor, manu, MacTed, gkellogg, Steven, ??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see lindstream, scor, manu, MacTed, gkellogg, Steven, ??P2 ←
14:55:38 <ShaneM> zakim, ??P2 is ShaneM
Shane McCarron: zakim, ??P2 is ShaneM ←
14:55:38 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM; got it ←
14:56:58 <MacTed> Topic: Philip's comments on APIs
14:56:58 <MacTed> manu: should be taken very seriously, from Opera, works on this stuff in his spare time, but he is also a potential browser implementer and understands the issues clearly.
Manu Sporny: should be taken very seriously, from Opera, works on this stuff in his spare time, but he is also a potential browser implementer and understands the issues clearly. ←
14:58:20 <Steven_> q+
Steven Pemberton: q+ ←
14:58:27 <MacTed> manu: maybe we should sit on WHAT WG, mozilla, other channels, and ask them about API thoughts
Manu Sporny: maybe we should sit on WHAT WG, mozilla, other channels, and ask them about API thoughts ←
14:58:53 <MacTed> ... we do want a path that makes it very easy for browser vendors to implement
... we do want a path that makes it very easy for browser vendors to implement ←
14:58:58 <Steven_> q-
Steven Pemberton: q- ←
14:58:59 <lindstream> q+
Niklas Lindström: q+ ←
14:59:41 <MacTed> ... "easy to implement in Javascript doesn't mean easy to implement in a performant way"
... "easy to implement in Javascript doesn't mean easy to implement in a performant way" ←
15:00:04 <manu> ack lindstream
Manu Sporny: ack lindstream ←
15:01:18 <MacTed> lindstream: performance concerns seem addressable by low-fidelity microdata-ish RDFa Basic.
Niklas Lindström: performance concerns seem addressable by low-fidelity microdata-ish RDFa Basic. ←
15:01:31 <MacTed> q+
q+ ←
15:01:37 <manu> ack MacTed
Manu Sporny: ack MacTed ←
15:01:59 <manu> MacTed: It seems that the browser vendors are mostly concerned about human interaction - most of what we're takling about is machine interaction.
Ted Thibodeau: It seems that the browser vendors are mostly concerned about human interaction - most of what we're takling about is machine interaction. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
15:02:12 <lindstream> q+
Niklas Lindström: q+ ←
15:02:54 <manu> MacTed: Basic to Advanced progression makes a great deal of sense to me - initial pass - low fidelity. Once there is something there for human to deal w/ then we do more advanced / less performant mechanism.
Ted Thibodeau: Basic to Advanced progression makes a great deal of sense to me - initial pass - low fidelity. Once there is something there for human to deal w/ then we do more advanced / less performant mechanism. [ Scribe Assist by Manu Sporny ] ←
15:03:43 <MacTed> lindstream: interesting consideration is "end users" vs "re-users" even more than "human" vs "machine"
Niklas Lindström: interesting consideration is "end users" vs "re-users" even more than "human" vs "machine" ←
15:04:19 <lindstream> q+
Niklas Lindström: q+ ←
15:04:24 <scor> manu - we should not be pestering them
Stéphane Corlosquet: manu - we should not be pestering them ←
15:04:50 <MacTed> manu: anyone willing to sit on WHAT-WG channel and ask questions?
Manu Sporny: anyone willing to sit on WHAT-WG channel and ask questions? ←
15:05:06 <MacTed> lindstream: will be polling relevant existing contacts...
Niklas Lindström: will be polling relevant existing contacts... ←
15:05:10 <manu> ack scor
Manu Sporny: ack scor ←
15:05:23 <scor> +1
Stéphane Corlosquet: +1 ←
15:05:47 <MacTed> manu: right, this is not about pestering, but about checking for concerns with APIs, and figuring out how best to address...
Manu Sporny: right, this is not about pestering, but about checking for concerns with APIs, and figuring out how best to address... ←
15:06:12 <MacTed> ... correcting misundersatndings, etc.
... correcting misundersatndings, etc. ←
15:08:00 <MacTed> RRSAgent, draft minutes
RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
15:08:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-rdfa-minutes.html MacTed
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-rdfa-minutes.html MacTed ←
15:08:05 <MacTed> RRSAgent, make minutes public
RRSAgent, make minutes public ←
15:08:05 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', MacTed. Try /msg RRSAgent help
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', MacTed. Try /msg RRSAgent help ←
15:08:08 <Zakim> -gkellogg
Zakim IRC Bot: -gkellogg ←
15:08:10 <Zakim> -manu
Zakim IRC Bot: -manu ←
15:08:11 <MacTed> RRSAgent, make logs public
RRSAgent, make logs public ←
15:08:14 <Zakim> -Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←
15:08:16 <Zakim> -lindstream
Zakim IRC Bot: -lindstream ←
15:08:18 <Zakim> -ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←
15:08:18 <MacTed> trackbot, end call
trackbot, end call ←
15:08:18 <trackbot> Sorry, MacTed, I don't understand 'trackbot, end call'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, MacTed, I don't understand 'trackbot, end call'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help ←
15:08:20 <Zakim> -scor
Zakim IRC Bot: -scor ←
15:08:24 <MacTed> trackbot, end conference
trackbot, end conference ←
15:08:24 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees ←
15:08:24 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been scor, manu, MacTed, Steven, gkellogg, lindstream, ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been scor, manu, MacTed, Steven, gkellogg, lindstream, ShaneM ←
15:08:25 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes ←
15:08:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-rdfa-minutes.html trackbot
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-rdfa-minutes.html trackbot ←
15:08:26 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye ←
15:08:26 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-rdfa-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-rdfa-actions.rdf : ←
15:08:26 <RRSAgent> ACTION: manu to revise email to TAG based on today's discussion, with "last comments" due ASAP mailing list [1]
ACTION: manu to revise email to TAG based on today's discussion, with "last comments" due ASAP mailing list [1] ←
15:08:26 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-rdfa-irc#T14-42-03
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/07/07-rdfa-irc#T14-42-03 ←
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