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RDFa in XHTML Task Force

Minutes of 21 January 2010

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2010Jan/0053
Present
Unknown Manu_Sporny, Unknown Ivan_Herman, Unknown Shane_McCarron, Unknown Steven_Pemberton
Regrets
Unknown Mark_Birbeck, Unknown Ben_Adida
Chair
Unknown Manu_Sporny
Scribe
Unknown Manu_Sporny, Unknown Steven_Pemberton
Previous Meeting
http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-minutes.html
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15:23:33 <manu-home> zakim, this will be rdfa

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15:23:45 <manu-home> Meeting: RDFa in XHTML Task Force
15:24:45 <manu-home> Regrets: Mark_Birbeck, Ben_Adida

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15:25:04 <manu-home> Present: Manu_Sporny, Ivan_Herman, Shane_McCarron, Steven_Pemberton

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15:25:56 <manu-home> Chair: Manu Sporny

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15:29:12 <manu> rrsagent, draft minutes

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15:30:23 <manu> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2010Jan/0053.html
15:30:38 <manu> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-minutes.html
16:01:19 <Steven> zakim, who is here?

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16:01:19 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has not yet started, Steven

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16:01:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see Steven, Zakim, RRSAgent, manu, ivan

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16:01:35 <Steven> scribe: steven

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16:01:58 <Steven> Chair: Manu
16:02:08 <manu> Thanks Steven - everything should be setup

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Thanks Steven - everything should be setup

16:02:16 <manu> for you to scribe :) -- thanks for scribing :)

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16:02:34 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started

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16:02:36 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2010Jan/0053
16:02:41 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

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16:02:41 <Zakim> +??P34

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16:02:44 <manu> zakim, I am ??P34

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16:02:44 <Zakim> +manu; got it

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16:03:11 <Steven> scribenick: Steven
16:03:18 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-mobile

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16:03:18 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made

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16:03:20 <Zakim> +Steven

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16:03:38 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

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16:03:38 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made

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16:03:40 <Zakim> +Ivan

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16:03:47 <Zakim> +ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM

16:05:24 <Steven> Manu: We may not have quorum today, so we won't be able to talk about everything

Unknown Manu_Sporny: We may not have quorum today, so we won't be able to talk about everything

16:06:25 <Steven> Steven: Tesco, the largest UK retailer has started using RDFa, see rdfa.info for a link to an example

Unknown Steven_Pemberton: Tesco, the largest UK retailer has started using RDFa, see rdfa.info for a link to an example

16:07:01 <Steven> Manu: We know the person who did hProduct, he's at Best Buy

Unknown Manu_Sporny: We know the person who did hProduct, he's at Best Buy

16:07:22 <Steven> ... in charge of their future web stuff

... in charge of their future web stuff

16:07:56 <Steven> Ivan: Yahoo has announced it will join the WG

Unknown Ivan_Herman: A large company has announced it will join the WG

16:08:18 <manu> s/Yahoo/A large company/g
16:08:46 <Steven> ... we have 4 days to go

... we have 4 days to go

16:08:53 <Steven> ... before the deadline

... before the deadline

16:09:08 <Steven> Topic: Action items

1. Action items

16:09:10 <manu> http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary

Unknown Manu_Sporny: http://www.w3.org/2010/01/14-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary

16:09:20 <Steven> ACTION: ShaneM to identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them.

ACTION: ShaneM to identify the requirements for html2ps and see about getting reSpec to support them.

16:09:29 <Steven> -- continues

-- continues

16:09:48 <Steven> Shane: I've been contacting Robin, still on it

Unknown Shane_McCarron: I've been contacting Robin, still on it

16:10:08 <Steven> ACTION:  Manu to get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142.

ACTION: Manu to get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142.

16:10:14 <Steven> -- continues

-- continues

16:10:27 <Steven> ACTION:  Mark to generate spec text for @token and @prefix

ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for @token and @prefix

16:10:32 <Steven> -- continues

-- continues

16:10:40 <Steven> Manu: Mark hopes to have that done by tomorrow

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Mark hopes to have that done by tomorrow

16:10:52 <Steven> ACTION:  Mark to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents

ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents

16:10:56 <Steven> -- continues

-- continues

16:11:12 <Steven> Topic: RDFa Community Updates

2. RDFa Community Updates

16:11:26 <Steven> Manu: Toby Inkster has asked to become an invited expert

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Someone has asked to become an invited expert

16:11:36 <Steven> ... people support this

... people support this

16:11:52 <Steven> ... Toby has done a number of semweb parsers

... Toby has done a number of semweb parsers

16:11:58 <ivan> q+

Unknown Ivan_Herman: q+

16:12:03 <Steven> ... I've worked with him in microformats

... I've worked with him in microformats

16:12:08 <Steven> ... good guy

... good guy

16:12:14 <Steven> ... on the rdfa-tf mailing list

... on the rdfa-tf mailing list

16:12:21 <Steven> ... he's very thorough

... he's very thorough

16:12:37 <manu> ack ivan

Unknown Manu_Sporny: ack ivan

16:17:15 <Zakim> +ShaneM.a

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16:17:17 <Zakim> -ShaneM

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16:17:17 <Steven> [Discussion of invited expert process]

[Discussion of invited expert process]

16:17:27 <ShaneM> zakim, ShaneM.a is ShaneM

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Unknown ShaneM: zakim, ShaneM.a is ShaneM

16:17:27 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it

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16:19:54 <Steven> Manu: Mediawiki discussion

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Mediawiki discussion

16:20:09 <Steven> ... big discussion

... big discussion

16:20:37 <Steven> ... people saying microdata should be used for license information

... people saying microdata should be used for license information

16:20:45 <Steven> ... lots of misconceptions

... lots of misconceptions

16:20:53 <Steven> ... some FUD

... some FUD

16:21:08 <Steven> ... I responded

... I responded

16:21:46 <Steven> ... End result is that the mediawiki people are discussing their own syntax

... End result is that the mediawiki people are discussing their own syntax

16:21:56 <ivan> q+

Unknown Ivan_Herman: q+

16:22:27 <Steven> Ivan: There is a semantic media wiki already

Unknown Ivan_Herman: There is a semantic media wiki already

16:22:39 <Steven> ... not easy to use

... not easy to use

16:22:47 <Steven> ... but once set up, decent

... but once set up, decent

16:23:04 <manu> Here's the discussion: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/186906?do=post_view_threaded

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Here's the discussion: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/186906?do=post_view_threaded

16:23:08 <Steven> ... the issue for us is not the syntax they use, but the generated HTML

... the issue for us is not the syntax they use, but the generated HTML

16:23:26 <Steven> ... which *is* relevant

... which *is* relevant

16:23:41 <Steven> ack ivan

ack ivan

16:23:50 <Steven> Ivan: A wider issue

Unknown Ivan_Herman: A wider issue

16:24:32 <Steven> ... what is the difference between microdata and the version of RDFa we are discussing?

... what is the difference between microdata and the version of RDFa we are discussing?

16:24:56 <Steven> ... Can't we reconcile these things?

... Can't we reconcile these things?

16:25:05 <Steven> ... with microdata as a subset of RDFa

... with microdata as a subset of RDFa

16:25:09 <Steven> Manu: Good point

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Good point

16:25:20 <Steven> ... microdata is changing

... microdata is changing

16:25:28 <Steven> ... maybe three things that are different

... maybe three things that are different

16:25:47 <Steven> ... so wikimedia people said, well if they are so similar, it doesn't matter which we choose

... so wikimedia people said, well if they are so similar, it doesn't matter which we choose

16:26:22 <Steven> Ivan: We need some cool-headed people to try and reconcile them and get rid of the stupid religious discussion

Unknown Ivan_Herman: We need some cool-headed people to try and reconcile them and get rid of the stupid religious discussion

16:26:46 <Steven> Manu: CURIEs, how to express datatypes, and one other thing

Unknown Manu_Sporny: CURIEs, how to express datatypes, and one other thing

16:26:52 <Steven> ... those are the differences

... those are the differences

16:27:17 <Steven> Manu: and we need default prefixing

Unknown Manu_Sporny: and we need default prefixing

16:30:15 <Steven> Manu: Danbri volunteered to do a comparison of microdata and RDFa

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Danbri volunteered to do a comparison of microdata and RDFa

16:30:42 <manu> ACTION: Manu to contact Dan Brickley to discuss Microdata to RDFa mapping.

ACTION: Manu to contact Dan Brickley to discuss Microdata to RDFa mapping.

16:31:24 <Steven> Manu: microdata supports fully qualified names

Unknown Manu_Sporny: microdata supports fully qualified names

16:31:55 <Steven> ... with a mapping mechanism, but everything is hardcoded, with only three vocabularies

... with a mapping mechanism, but everything is hardcoded, with only three vocabularies

16:32:04 <Steven> .... otherwise you have to use the full URI

.... otherwise you have to use the full URI

16:32:09 <ShaneM> wow - that's *MUCH* better than RDFa.    NOT

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Unknown ShaneM: wow - that's *MUCH* better than RDFa. NOT

16:32:32 <Steven> Ivan: RDFa 1 microdata 0

Unknown Ivan_Herman: RDFa 1 microdata 0

16:32:53 <Steven> Manu: The short name is hardcoded

Unknown Manu_Sporny: The short name is hardcoded

16:33:02 <ShaneM> q+ to ask about vocabs in microdata

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Unknown ShaneM: q+ to ask about vocabs in microdata

16:33:50 <manu> ack shanem

Unknown Manu_Sporny: ack shanem

16:33:50 <Zakim> ShaneM, you wanted to ask about vocabs in microdata

Zakim IRC Bot: ShaneM, you wanted to ask about vocabs in microdata

16:34:22 <Steven> Ivan: We need to address the issue of hardcoded names

Unknown Ivan_Herman: We need to address the issue of hardcoded names

16:34:34 <Steven> Shane: I think that is already addressed.

Unknown Shane_McCarron: I think that is already addressed.

16:35:12 <Steven> Shane: So the vocabs are not extensible

Unknown Shane_McCarron: So the vocabs are not extensible

16:35:26 <Steven> Manu: No. To get a new vocab in is to update HTML5

Unknown Manu_Sporny: No. To get a new vocab in is to update HTML5

16:35:48 <Steven> Shane: But the whole point of RDFa is extensibility and discoverability

Unknown Shane_McCarron: But the whole point of RDFa is extensibility and discoverability

16:36:27 <Steven> Ivan: So to do microdata, I have to check the HTML5 list weekly and update the implementation? That is absolutely unrealistic

Unknown Ivan_Herman: So to do microdata, I have to check the HTML5 list weekly and update the implementation? That is absolutely unrealistic

16:36:54 <Steven> Manu: You have to understand a lot about the semweb to understand these points

Unknown Manu_Sporny: You have to understand a lot about the semweb to understand these points

16:37:49 <Steven> ... some of the wikimedia people don't understand why a page needs inbedded semantics

... some of the wikimedia people don't understand why a page needs inbedded semantics

16:38:24 <Steven> ... HTML5 people haven't grasped the extensible vocabulary concept properly yet

... HTML5 people haven't grasped the extensible vocabulary concept properly yet

16:39:07 <Steven> Shane: There are so many examples!

Unknown Shane_McCarron: There are so many examples!

16:39:16 <Steven> Manu: I've tried to point them to them

Unknown Manu_Sporny: I've tried to point them to them

16:41:32 <ShaneM>                    foaf                        dc                        owl                        rdf                        rdfs                        skos                        xsd                        dbp                        d2rq                        sioc

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Unknown ShaneM: foaf dc owl rdf rdfs skos xsd dbp d2rq sioc

16:41:57 <manu> We could pre-define those in RDFa 1.1

Unknown Manu_Sporny: We could pre-define those in RDFa 1.1

16:42:07 <manu> that would make some WHAT WG folks happy

Unknown Manu_Sporny: that would make some WHAT WG folks happy

16:42:08 <Steven> Manu: We can hardcode some prefixes for the most used cases

Unknown Manu_Sporny: We can hardcode some prefixes for the most used cases

16:42:54 <Steven> Manu: Subtopic HTML WG discussion

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Subtopic HTML WG discussion

16:43:13 <Steven> ... next draft for HTML+RDFa is ready to go, and will be published I think

... next draft for HTML+RDFa is ready to go, and will be published I think

16:43:24 <Steven> ... some objections to the microdata spec

... some objections to the microdata spec

16:43:33 <Steven> ... from a couple of people

... from a couple of people

16:43:57 <Steven> ... who are asking why W3C has two solutions for this

... who are asking why W3C has two solutions for this

16:44:03 <Steven> ... both are saying use RDFa

... both are saying use RDFa

16:44:17 <Steven> ... and one says that the HTML WG shouldn't even be looking at it

... and one says that the HTML WG shouldn't even be looking at it

16:47:41 <Steven> Topic: RDFa vocabs

3. RDFa vocabs

16:47:48 <Steven> Ivan: I did send a comment

Unknown Ivan_Herman: I did send a comment

16:48:20 <Steven> ... there are some holes in the discussion

... there are some holes in the discussion

16:50:12 <Steven> Ivan: [scribe misses the point]

Unknown Ivan_Herman: [scribe misses the point]

16:50:45 <Steven> q+

q+

16:51:17 <Steven> Ivan: It is easy for us to understand that 'next' is mapped

Unknown Ivan_Herman: It is easy for us to understand that 'next' is mapped

16:51:35 <Steven> SHane: I thought we were extending keywords to all places where you can have CURIEs

Unknown Shane_McCarron: I thought we were extending keywords to all places where you can have CURIEs

16:51:40 <Steven> s/SH/Sh/
16:51:50 <Steven> ... I think it eases implementation

... I think it eases implementation

16:51:59 <Steven> ... it's about consistency

... it's about consistency

16:52:15 <Steven> Ivan: It is not a proposal, but a question

Unknown Ivan_Herman: It is not a proposal, but a question

16:54:40 <Steven> Shane: I would like this to happen

Unknown Shane_McCarron: I would like this to happen

16:55:03 <Steven> Manu: Having 'next' in @typeof wouldn't make sense

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Having 'next' in @typeof wouldn't make sense

16:55:12 <Steven> ... in @resource maybe

... in @resource maybe

16:55:16 <ivan> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2010Jan/0047.html

Unknown Ivan_Herman: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2010Jan/0047.html

16:55:18 <Steven> ... in @property?

... in @property?

16:55:54 <ivan> q+

Unknown Ivan_Herman: q+

16:55:55 <Steven> Manu: We can discuss this when the WG starts up

Unknown Manu_Sporny: We can discuss this when the WG starts up

16:56:00 <manu> ack steven

Unknown Manu_Sporny: ack steven

16:56:50 <manu> ack ivan

Unknown Manu_Sporny: ack ivan

16:57:11 <Steven> Ivan: The mail above contains my point that was not scribes

Unknown Ivan_Herman: The mail above contains my point that was not scribes

16:57:35 <Steven> Ivan: On a related point, there is a discussion going on about a registration mechanism for rel/rev/role

Unknown Ivan_Herman: On a related point, there is a discussion going on about a registration mechanism for rel/rev/role

16:57:49 <Steven> .... Mark Nottingham is proposing it

.... Mark Nottingham is proposing it

16:58:32 <Steven> http://www.mnot.net/drafts/draft-nottingham-http-link-header-01.txt

http://www.mnot.net/drafts/draft-nottingham-http-link-header-01.txt

16:58:56 <Steven> Manu: I din't realise it was progrssing

Unknown Manu_Sporny: I didn't realise it was progressing

16:59:02 <Steven> s/ss/ess/
16:59:08 <Steven> s/din/didn/
16:59:27 <Steven> Shane: I have been participating in that discussion

Unknown Shane_McCarron: I have been participating in that discussion

17:00:14 <Steven> ... saying that the rel values were described in HTML4, and we (XHTML WG) has put them in a registry (http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab)

... saying that the rel values were described in HTML4, and we (XHTML WG) have put them in a registry (http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab)

17:00:24 <Steven> s/has/have/
17:00:50 <Steven> Ivan: I don't know where this will end, Harry Halpin has an action item in W3C to follow up

Unknown Ivan_Herman: I don't know where this will end, Harry Halpin has an action item in W3C to follow up

17:01:55 <manu> Steven: Our values of @rel are much more widely usable.

Unknown Steven_Pemberton: Our values of @rel are much more widely usable. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

17:01:58 <Steven> STeven: Mnot's version is for http link vlaues

Unknown Steven_Pemberton: Mnot's version is for http link values

17:02:23 <Steven> Ivan: It will come into our vocab discussion

Unknown Ivan_Herman: It will come into our vocab discussion

17:02:31 <Steven> ADJOURN

ADJOURN

17:02:34 <Zakim> -ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM

17:02:37 <Zakim> -manu

Zakim IRC Bot: -manu

17:02:37 <Zakim> -Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven

17:02:44 <manu> Manu: Perhaps we need to have something that is jointly run by W3C, IETF and IANA

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Perhaps we need to have something that is jointly run by W3C, IETF and IANA [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

17:03:03 <Steven> rrsagentm who is here?

rrsagentm who is here?

17:03:06 <Steven> yes

yes

17:03:11 <Steven> rrsagent, who is here?

rrsagent, who is here?

17:03:11 <RRSAgent> I'm logging.  Sorry, nothing found for 'who is here'

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for 'who is here'

17:03:19 <Steven> zakim, who is here?

zakim, who is here?

17:03:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Ivan

17:03:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see Steven, Zakim, RRSAgent, manu

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Steven, Zakim, RRSAgent, manu

17:03:24 <Steven> zakim, drop Ivan

zakim, drop Ivan

17:03:24 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected

Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected

17:03:25 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended

17:03:28 <Zakim> Attendees were manu, Steven, Ivan, ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were manu, Steven, Ivan, ShaneM

17:03:34 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

17:03:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

17:04:33 <Steven> s/Toby Inkster/Someone/
17:04:44 <Steven> s/Toby//
17:06:22 <Steven> s|scribe misses the point|http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2010Jan/0047.html|

s|scribe misses the point|http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2010Jan/0047.html|

17:06:27 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

17:06:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

17:07:05 <Steven> s/ST?St/

s/ST?St/ (warning: replacement failed)

17:07:10 <Steven> s/ST/St/
17:07:24 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

17:07:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

17:07:49 <Steven> s/ST/St/
17:07:52 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

17:07:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

17:08:18 <Steven> s/vlaues/values
17:08:21 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

rrsagent, make minutes

17:08:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-rdfa-minutes.html Steven



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