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RDFa in XHTML Task Force

Minutes of 10 December 2009

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Dec/0048.html
Present
Unknown Manu_Sporny, Unknown Ivan_Herman
Regrets
Unknown Ben_Adida
Chair
Unknown Manu_Sporny
Scribe
Unknown manu, Unknown Sporny
Previous Meeting
http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html
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Resolutions

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15:33:51 <manu> zakim, this will be rdfa

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15:34:23 <manu> Present: Manu_Sporny, Ivan_Herman

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15:34:37 <manu> Meeting: RDFa in XHTML Task Force
15:34:48 <manu> Chair: Manu_Sporny
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15:35:20 <manu> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Dec/0048.html
15:35:39 <manu> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html
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15:59:53 <ivan> zakim, code?

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15:59:53 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), ivan

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16:02:10 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started

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16:02:17 <Zakim> +??P20

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16:02:23 <manu> zakim, I am ??P20

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16:03:25 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?

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16:03:44 <manu> Topic: Action Items

1. Action Items

16:03:57 <manu> ACTION: Manu to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]

ACTION: Manu to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents. [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-08]

16:04:00 <manu> -- continues

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16:04:09 <manu> ACTION: Manu to get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]

ACTION: Manu to get in touch with LibXML developers about TC 142. [recorded in ACTION-09]">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-09]

16:04:11 <manu> -- continues

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16:04:21 <manu> ACTION: Manu to aggressively push review of test cases via mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/29-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]

ACTION: Manu to aggressively push review of test cases via mailing list [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2009/10/29-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-08]

16:04:23 <manu> -- continues

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16:04:32 <manu> ACTION: Manu to try and find other interested parties in RDFa WG. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/10/22-rdfa-minutes.html#action08]

ACTION: Manu to try and find other interested parties in RDFa WG. [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2009/10/22-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-08]

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16:04:37 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am ?

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16:04:37 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it

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16:05:12 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip

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16:05:14 <Zakim> +Ivan

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16:05:16 <manu> ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for @token and @prefix [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]

ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for @token and @prefix [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06]

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16:05:29 <manu> ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]

ACTION: Mark to generate spec text for pulling in external vocabulary documents [recorded in ACTION-07]">http://www.w3.org/2009/12/03-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-07]

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16:06:20 <manu> Present+ Mark_Birbeck

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Present+ Mark_Birbeck

16:06:33 <manu> Present+ Ivan_Herman

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16:06:41 <manu> Regrets: Shane_McCarron

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16:06:46 <manu> Regrets: Steven_Pemberton

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16:06:51 <manu> Regrets: Ben_Adida

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16:08:07 <markbirbeck> zakim, mute me

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16:08:14 <manu> Topic: Housekeeping items

2. Housekeeping items

16:08:22 <manu> Manu: Any updates?

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Any updates? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:08:27 <manu> Ivan: RDFa WG charter update

Unknown Ivan_Herman: RDFa WG charter update [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:08:41 <manu> Ivan: W3M comments are coming in, they're being edited, only two issues that need changes.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: W3M comments are coming in, they're being edited, only two issues that need changes. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:09:02 <manu> Ivan: A11y want to be a part of RDFa - so they want to be mentioned in the charter

Unknown Ivan_Herman: A11y want to be a part of RDFa - so they want to be mentioned in the charter [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:09:08 <manu> Ivan: I think it would be good to do that.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: I think it would be good to do that. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:09:55 <manu> Ivan: There is a separate document called WebIDL -  a formal way to describe APIs.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: There is a separate document called WebIDL - a formal way to describe APIs. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:10:05 <manu> Ivan: We should put a sentence into the charter to use that formally, if possible.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: We should put a sentence into the charter to use that formally, if possible. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:10:25 <manu> Ivan: We shouldn't invent a new mechanism, we should use WebIDL.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: We shouldn't invent a new mechanism, we should use WebIDL. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:10:38 <manu> Ivan: The Comm team said that it will go out to AC for formal vote next Monday.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: The Comm team said that it will go out to AC for formal vote next Monday. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:10:51 <manu> Ivan: The deadline for review is on 22nd of Jan.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: The deadline for review is on 22nd of Jan. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:11:10 <manu> Ivan: If we don't get any substantial comments, then it should be possible to get the group up and running very quickly.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: If we don't get any substantial comments, then it should be possible to get the group up and running very quickly. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:11:25 <manu> Ivan: W3M would approve if there are no substantial comments.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: W3M would approve if there are no substantial comments. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:12:10 <markbirbeck> great developments, Ivan.

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Unknown markbirbeck: great developments, Ivan.

16:13:01 <manu> Manu: We should probably cancel Christmas and New Years Eve telecons

Unknown Manu_Sporny: We should probably cancel Christmas and New Years Eve telecons [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:13:04 <manu> Ivan: +1

Unknown Ivan_Herman: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:13:12 <manu> Manu: I won't be able to chair next week.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: I won't be able to chair next week. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:13:31 <manu> Topic: Briefly discuss HTML+RDFa heartbeat requirement

3. Briefly discuss HTML+RDFa heartbeat requirement

16:16:06 <manu> Manu: We need to publish HTML5+RDFa by Jan 15th

Unknown Manu_Sporny: We need to publish HTML5+RDFa by Jan 15th [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:16:12 <markbirbeck> zakim, unmute me

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16:16:46 <manu> Manu: I'm going to add Syntax Rules from an Infoset perspective.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: I'm going to add Syntax Rules from an Infoset perspective. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:17:23 <manu> Manu: I'm also going to add coersion to Infoset addition that would ensure that infoset is the same between HTML5 and XHTML5 mode.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: I'm also going to add coersion to Infoset addition that would ensure that infoset is the same between HTML5 and XHTML5 mode. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:17:38 <manu> Ivan: There is another issue...

Unknown Ivan_Herman: There is another issue... [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:20:58 <manu> Ivan: What about getting specs out of sync?

Unknown Ivan_Herman: What about getting specs out of sync? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:21:03 <manu> Manu: We said we didn't want to do that.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: We said we didn't want to do that. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:22:21 <manu> Ivan: Will HTML5+RDFa  be RDFa 1.0 or RDFa 1.1?

Unknown Ivan_Herman: Will HTML5+RDFa be RDFa 1.0 or RDFa 1.1? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:22:35 <manu> Ivan: We should decide at a later date and make sure we stay in sync with HTML WG.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: We should decide at a later date and make sure we stay in sync with HTML WG. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:23:00 <manu> Ivan: We will want to keep HTML5+RDFa and RDFa 1.1 in sync, if we can do that.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: We will want to keep HTML5+RDFa and RDFa 1.1 in sync, if we can do that. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:23:39 <manu> Mark: I think Ben had reservations about how much we put in.

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Unknown Mark: I think Ben had reservations about how much we put in. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:24:21 <manu> Mark: It's a bigger group than us that should decide what should go into that spec.

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Unknown Mark: It's a bigger group than us that should decide what should go into that spec. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:30:31 <manu> Ivan: Do the HTML5 people accept that HTML5 (non-XML) can be expressed as an Infoset as well.

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Unknown Ivan_Herman: Do the HTML5 people accept that HTML5 (non-XML) can be expressed as an Infoset as well. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:30:57 <manu> Mark: I'm not sure we can say anything more than "be careful" - that the Infoset might not be what you're expecting.

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Unknown Mark: I'm not sure we can say anything more than "be careful" - that the Infoset might not be what you're expecting. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:31:23 <manu> Mark: The DOM that is constructed from the source may be different in HTML5.

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Unknown Mark: The DOM that is constructed from the source may be different in HTML5. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:32:02 <manu> Mark: There are precise rules about bits missing in an HTML5 document - there is an algorithm from going from HTML5 to XHTML5.

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Unknown Mark: There are precise rules about bits missing in an HTML5 document - there is an algorithm from going from HTML5 to XHTML5. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:32:39 <manu> Mark: I don't think that means that we should start writing the parsing algorithm from an Infoset perspective.

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Unknown Mark: I don't think that means that we should start writing the parsing algorithm from an Infoset perspective. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:41:07 <manu> Ivan: We need to refer to the HTML5 description of what happens.

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Unknown Ivan_Herman: We need to refer to the HTML5 description of what happens. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:41:41 <manu> Manu: Well there are two things that we can be done - we say "In HTML5 mode, extract NS information like this, in XHTML5 mode, extract NS information like this."

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Well there are two things that we can be done - we say "In HTML5 mode, extract NS information like this, in XHTML5 mode, extract NS information like this." [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:44:44 <manu> Topic: "URIs everywhere" proposal

4. "URIs everywhere" proposal

16:45:00 <manu> Manu: The proposal looks good.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: The proposal looks good. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:45:34 <manu> Manu: There doesn't seem to be any blocking issues - looks good to me.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: There doesn't seem to be any blocking issues - looks good to me. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:45:48 <manu> Mark: Nothing seems to have come up as major issues, no.

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Unknown Mark: Nothing seems to have come up as major issues, no. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:46:14 <manu> Manu: There seem to be 3 successful implementations so far.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: There seem to be 3 successful implementations so far. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:46:44 <manu> Ivan: Only thing I'm concerned about is that for certain attributes, we can have a URI or /something else/.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: Only thing I'm concerned about is that for certain attributes, we can have a URI or /something else/. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:47:10 <manu> Ivan: Dan Connolly may be concerned about this - not sure what we should do with that...

Unknown Ivan_Herman: Dan Connolly may be concerned about this - not sure what we should do with that... [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:47:33 <manu> Ivan: I don't think it's a technical issue.

Unknown Ivan_Herman: I don't think it's a technical issue. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:48:05 <manu> Mark: I think Steven said that there was succinct guidance that an attribute shouldn't be able to contain both a URI and a QName.

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Unknown Mark: I think Steven said that there was succinct guidance that an attribute shouldn't be able to contain both a URI and a QName. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:48:16 <manu> Mark: The argument was that you can't tell the difference between the two

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Unknown Mark: The argument was that you can't tell the difference between the two [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:48:27 <manu> Mark: but we now know that we can tell the difference.

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Unknown Mark: but we now know that we can tell the difference. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:49:02 <manu> Mark: We'd have to raise the issue and be ready to defend it.

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Unknown Mark: We'd have to raise the issue and be ready to defend it. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:49:25 <manu> Mark: We should have a draft, Shane could probably generate that for us - put a box in that says we should discuss with the TAG.

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Unknown Mark: We should have a draft, Shane might be willing to generate that for us - put a box in that says we should discuss with the TAG. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Manu_Sporny ]

16:50:20 <manu> ACTION: Mark to ask Shane to generate URI Everywhere additions to XHTML+RDFa spec.

ACTION: Mark to ask Shane to generate URI Everywhere additions to XHTML+RDFa spec.

16:50:24 <markbirbeck> s/Shane could probably/Shane might be willing to/
16:50:27 <markbirbeck> :)

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Unknown markbirbeck: :)

16:54:00 <manu> rrsagent, draft minutes

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16:54:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/12/10-rdfa-minutes.html manu

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16:57:27 <Zakim> -markbirbeck

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16:57:29 <Zakim> -manu

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16:57:31 <Zakim> -Ivan

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16:57:33 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended

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16:57:35 <Zakim> Attendees were manu, markbirbeck, Ivan

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17:04:20 <markbirbeck> I've emailed Shane...so at least that part of my action is done. :)

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Unknown markbirbeck: I've emailed Shane...so at least that part of my action is done. :)

17:43:42 <manu> zakim, bye

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Unknown Manu_Sporny: zakim, bye

17:43:54 <manu> Regrets+ Ben_Adida

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Regrets+ Ben_Adida

17:43:58 <manu> Regrets+ Steven_Pemberton

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Regrets+ Steven_Pemberton

17:44:03 <manu> Regrets+ Shane_McCarron

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Regrets+ Shane_McCarron

17:47:50 <manu> rrsagent, draft minutes

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17:47:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/12/10-rdfa-minutes.html manu

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