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15:55:18 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-irc

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15:55:31 <msporny> zakim, this will be rdfa

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15:55:31 <Zakim> ok, msporny; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes

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15:55:40 <msporny> Scribe: Manu_Sporny

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15:55:50 <msporny> ScribeNick: msporny

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15:56:02 <msporny> Meeting: RDF in XHTML 1.0 Task Force

15:56:10 <msporny> Chair: Ben_Adida

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15:56:44 <msporny> rrsagent, make log public

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15:56:50 <msporny> rrsagent, draft minutes

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15:56:51 <mhausenblas> hey people, Happy New Year everybody! will be with you in ca. 5min

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Unknown mhausenblas: hey people, Happy New Year everybody! will be with you in ca. 5min ←

15:57:07 <msporny> Happy new Year Michael! :)

Happy new Year Michael! :) ←

15:59:43 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has now started

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15:59:51 <Zakim> +McCarron

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15:59:56 <Zakim> +Ralph

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16:00:05 <ShaneM> zakim, mccarron is ShaneM

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16:02:15 <markbirbeck> previous call running late...

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16:02:41 <Zakim> +??P58

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16:02:46 <msporny> zakim, I am ??P58

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16:02:46 <Zakim> +msporny; got it

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16:03:05 <Zakim> +??P62

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16:03:22 <Ralph> zakim, ??p62 is Michael

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16:03:22 <Zakim> +Michael; got it

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16:03:35 <Ralph> zakim, Michael is DrMichael

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16:03:35 <Zakim> +DrMichael; got it

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16:04:14 <msporny> Present: Ralph_Swick, Dr_Michael_Hausenblas, Manu_Sporny, Shane_McCarron, Ben_Adida

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16:04:21 <msporny> rrsagent, draft minutes

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16:04:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html msporny

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16:05:21 <msporny> Topic: Action Items

1. Action Items

16:06:00 <Zakim> +Ben_Adida

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16:06:11 <Ralph> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0022.html

16:06:13 <Ralph> Chair: Ben

16:06:14 <msporny> Present+ Ben_Adida

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16:06:35 <mhausenblas> Previous:  2008-12-18 http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc

16:06:49 <benadida> zakim, who is on the phone

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Unknown benadida: zakim, who is on the phone ←

16:06:49 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', benadida

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16:06:55 <benadida> zakim, who is on the call?

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16:06:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see ShaneM, Ralph, msporny, DrMichael, Ben_Adida

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16:06:55 <Ralph> s/-irc/-minutes

16:07:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

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16:08:53 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?

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Unknown markbirbeck: zakim, code? ←

16:08:54 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck

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16:09:52 <ShaneM> we do not use that namespac

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Unknown ShaneM: we do not use that namespac ←

16:09:55 <Zakim> + +0208761aaaa

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16:10:02 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am aaaa

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16:10:02 <Zakim> +markbirbeck; got it

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16:10:42 <msporny> Topic: RDFa NS URL

2. RDFa NS URL

16:10:48 <ShaneM> it is pointed to from the xhtml namespace document

Unknown ShaneM: it is pointed to from the xhtml namespace document ←

16:10:55 <msporny> Ralph: It is up there, somewhere - the XHTML namespace document points to it.

Unknown Ralph_Swick: It is up there, somewhere - the XHTML namespace document points to it. ←

16:11:07 <msporny> Ralph: Where is http://www.w3.org/ns/rdfa/ used?

Unknown Ralph_Swick: Where is http://www.w3.org/ns/rdfa/ used? ←

16:11:19 <msporny> ShaneM: It shouldn't be circulating, nothing should point to it.

Unknown ShaneM: It shouldn't be circulating, nothing should point to it. ←

16:12:47 <ShaneM> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/

Unknown ShaneM: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/ ←

16:13:25 <benadida> http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/Overview.xhtml

Unknown benadida: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/Overview.xhtml ←

16:13:29 <benadida> (2 days younger)

Unknown benadida: (2 days younger) ←

16:13:40 <benadida> http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt

Unknown benadida: http://www.w3.org/2008/07/rdfa-xslt ←

16:13:58 <msporny> ShaneM: Ralph/Steven or I will fix this.

Unknown ShaneM: Ralph/Steven or I will fix this. ←

16:14:27 <msporny> ShaneM: The contents of both those documents should be exactly the same.

Unknown ShaneM: The contents of both those documents should be exactly the same. ←

16:14:29 <ShaneM> ACTION: fix the .htaccess for the XHTML namespace

ACTION: fix the .htaccess for the XHTML namespace ←

16:14:29 <trackbot> Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry... I don't know anything about this channel ←

16:14:42 <msporny> Topic: Action Items

3. Action Items

16:15:03 <Ralph> trackbot, bye

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16:17:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

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16:18:47 <benadida> action items --> http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary

Unknown benadida: action items --> http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary ←

16:19:25 <msporny> ACTION: Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about="" on HEAD and BODY [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc]

ACTION: Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about="" on HEAD and BODY [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc] ←

16:19:37 <msporny> -- continues

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16:20:04 <msporny> ACTION: Ben to add public-rdfa examples to wiki and think of slightly improved top-level organization [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]

ACTION: Ben to add public-rdfa examples to wiki and think of slightly improved top-level organization [recorded in ACTION-11]">http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-11] ←

16:20:07 <msporny> -- continues

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16:20:15 <msporny> ACTION: Ben to put up information on "how to write RDFa" with screencast possibly and instructions on bookmarklet. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]

ACTION: Ben to put up information on "how to write RDFa" with screencast possibly and instructions on bookmarklet. [recorded in ACTION-12]">http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-12] ←

16:20:25 <msporny> -- continues

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16:20:38 <msporny> ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]

ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in ACTION-03]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-03] ←

16:20:40 <msporny> -- continues

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16:20:48 <msporny> ACTION: Manu talk with Jamie McCarthy about an AskSlashdot piece [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action04]

ACTION: Manu talk with Jamie McCarthy about an AskSlashdot piece [recorded in ACTION-04]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-04] ←

16:20:58 <msporny> -- continues

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16:21:04 <msporny> ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]

ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan. [recorded in ACTION-09]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-09] ←

16:21:06 <msporny> -- continues

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16:21:13 <msporny> ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]

ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot. [recorded in ACTION-11]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-11] ←

16:21:16 <msporny> -- continues

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16:21:22 <msporny> ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]

ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in ACTION-12]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-12] ←

16:21:25 <msporny> -- continues

-- continues ←

16:21:31 <msporny> ACTION: Mark to send Ben ubiquity related wizard stuff [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]

ACTION: Mark to send Ben ubiquity related wizard stuff [recorded in ACTION-11]">http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-11] ←

16:21:33 <msporny> -- continues

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16:21:42 <msporny> ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]

ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in ACTION-13]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-13] ←

16:21:45 <msporny> -- continues

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16:21:51 <msporny> ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]

ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in ACTION-14]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-14] ←

16:22:02 <mhausenblas> http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Microformats_in_RDF

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Unknown mhausenblas: http://semanticweb.org/wiki/Microformats_in_RDF ←

16:25:58 <Ralph> Manu: 2 parts

Unknown Manu_Sporny: 2 parts [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph_Swick ] ←

16:26:20 <Ralph> ... part 2 is "If I've already setup my page to use hCard, how do I switch to RDFa?"

Unknown Ralph_Swick: ... part 2 is "If I've already setup my page to use hCard, how do I switch to RDFa?" ←

16:26:24 <mhausenblas> Michael: split it into two parts (how and differences)

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Unknown Michael: split it into two parts (how and differences) [ Scribe Assist by Unknown mhausenblas ] ←

16:27:54 <msporny> -- continues

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16:28:14 <msporny> Manu: Perhaps we need something that shows general differences between uF and RDFa, and then gives specific examples.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Perhaps we need something that shows general differences between uF and RDFa, and then gives specific examples. ←

16:28:29 <msporny> ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]

ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in ACTION-15]">http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-15] ←

16:28:31 <msporny> -- continues

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16:28:34 <msporny> Topic: Test Cases

4. Test Cases

16:28:39 <benadida> scribenick: benadida

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16:28:54 <msporny> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0016.html

Unknown msporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0016.html Test Case #121: "[prefix:]" CURIE format is valid ←

16:29:38 <benadida> Manu: the issue tested here is with suffix-less CURIEs, e.g. "example:"

Unknown Manu_Sporny: the issue tested here is with suffix-less CURIEs, e.g. "example:" ←

16:29:55 <Ralph> s/.html/.html Test Case #121: "[prefix:]" CURIE format is valid

16:30:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph ←

16:30:20 <benadida> ... CURIE still expands, empty-string as suffix.

... CURIE still expands, empty-string as suffix. ←

16:30:37 <Ralph> +1

Unknown Ralph_Swick: +1 ←

16:30:38 <mhausenblas> +1

Unknown mhausenblas: +1 ←

16:30:44 <ShaneM> +1

Unknown ShaneM: +1 ←

16:31:06 <benadida> RESOLVED: test case 121 suffix-less CURIE approved

RESOLVED: test case 121 suffix-less CURIE approved ←

16:31:15 <msporny> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0017.html

Unknown msporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0017.html Test Case #122: "[:]" CURIE format is valid ←

16:31:25 <Ralph> s/.html/.html Test Case #122: "[:]" CURIE format is valid

16:33:12 <mhausenblas> +1

Unknown mhausenblas: +1 ←

16:33:13 <Ralph> +1

Unknown Ralph_Swick: +1 ←

16:33:16 <benadida> +1

+1 ←

16:33:16 <ShaneM> +1

Unknown ShaneM: +1 ←

16:33:23 <markbirbeck> +1

Unknown markbirbeck: +1 ←

16:33:27 <msporny> +1

Unknown msporny: +1 ←

16:33:30 <benadida> RESOLVED: test case 122 prefix and suffix-less CURIE [:]

RESOLVED: test case 122 prefix and suffix-less CURIE [:] ←

16:33:40 <benadida> RESOLVED: test case 122 prefix and suffix-less CURIE [:] approved

RESOLVED: test case 122 prefix and suffix-less CURIE [:] approved ←

16:33:43 <msporny> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0018.html

Unknown msporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0018.html Test Case #123: "[]" is a valid safe CURIE ←

16:33:53 <Ralph> s/.html/.html Test Case #123: "[]" is a valid safe CURIE

16:34:13 <mhausenblas> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0026.html

Unknown mhausenblas: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Jan/0026.html ←

16:34:42 <msporny> about="[foo]"

Unknown msporny: about="[foo]" ←

16:34:48 <Ralph> Manu: the current consensus is that the subject is http://example.org/

Unknown Manu_Sporny: the current consensus is that the subject is http://example.org/ [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph_Swick ] ←

16:34:49 <msporny> about="[]"

Unknown msporny: about="[]" ←

16:35:09 <Ralph> Manu: "[foo]" is an invalid CURIE, therefore so should be the empty string

Unknown Manu_Sporny: "[foo]" is an invalid CURIE, therefore so should be the empty string [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph_Swick ] ←

16:35:28 <Ralph> ... as neither is in the reserved (XHTML) list

Unknown Ralph_Swick: ... as neither is in the reserved (XHTML) list ←

16:35:36 <msporny> # the mapping to use when there is no prefix is not defined, which effectively prohibits the use of CURIEs that do not contain a colon;

Unknown msporny: # the mapping to use when there is no prefix is not defined, which effectively prohibits the use of CURIEs that do not contain a colon; ←

16:35:48 <Ralph> scribenick: Ralph

(Scribe set to Unknown Ralph_Swick)

16:36:16 <Ralph> Ben: did we define CURIES to require a prefix in RDFa?

Unknown Ben_Adida: did we define CURIES to require a prefix in RDFa? ←

16:36:17 <Ralph> Mark: yes

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Unknown Mark: yes ←

16:36:32 <Ralph> ... wasn't my preference, but it was a long discussion

... wasn't my preference, but it was a long discussion ←

16:36:49 <Ralph> Ben: considering consistency w.r.t. reserved words

Unknown Ben_Adida: considering consistency w.r.t. reserved words ←

16:37:05 <Ralph> ... this is the first instance where an invalid value actually changes the structure

... this is the first instance where an invalid value actually changes the structure ←

16:37:19 <Ralph> Mark: and Ivan pointed out the same thing occurs with @about="[foo]"

Unknown Mark: and Ivan pointed out the same thing occurs with @about="[foo]" ←

16:37:33 <Ralph> Shane: right; @about="[foo]" should not change the subject

Unknown Shane_McCarron: right; @about="[foo]" should not change the subject ←

16:37:46 <Ralph> Ben: but the presence of @rel alters the graph structure even if the CURIE is not valid

Unknown Ben_Adida: but the presence of @rel alters the graph structure even if the CURIE is not valid ←

16:37:58 <Ralph> ... however in this case it's acting as if @about was not present

... however in this case it's acting as if @about was not present ←

16:38:33 <Ralph> ... however, since @about just changes the subject and doesn't by itself generates triples, maybe this is OK

... however, since @about just changes the subject and doesn't by itself generates triples, maybe this is OK ←

16:38:59 <Ralph> Mark: it's clear that this is the current spec.  We could discuss whether this is the most desireable choice.

Unknown Mark: it's clear that this is the current spec. We could discuss whether this is the most desireable choice. ←

16:39:27 <Ralph> Ben: so if it's not a valid CURIE value, the behavior is as if @about were not there

Unknown Ben_Adida: so if it's not a valid CURIE value, the behavior is as if @about were not there ←

16:39:50 <Ralph> Mark: the alternative discussed was to assume the invalid CURIE was in the local document namespace

Unknown Mark: the alternative discussed was to assume the invalid CURIE was in the local document namespace ←

16:39:56 <Ralph> ... and we liked that less

... and we liked that less ←

16:40:13 <Ralph> Ben: the discussion is about the subject; some triple has to be generated, and the spec is clear

Unknown Ben_Adida: the discussion is about the subject; some triple has to be generated, and the spec is clear ←

16:40:29 <Ralph> Mark: however, as you note @rel="[foo]" does do some work

Unknown Mark: however, as you note @rel="[foo]" does do some work ←

16:40:58 <Ralph> Ben: rephrasing, what is the alternative when an invalid CURIE is found?

Unknown Ben_Adida: rephrasing, what is the alternative when an invalid CURIE is found? ←

16:41:05 <Ralph> ... it would seem wrong to drop the triple entirely

... it would seem wrong to drop the triple entirely ←

16:41:26 <Ralph> ... whereas it's more reasonable to drop the triple in @rel="[foo]"

... whereas it's more reasonable to drop the triple in @rel="[foo]" ←

16:41:42 <Ralph> ... so I don't see a better alternative for @about="[foo]" without major changes to CURIE

... so I don't see a better alternative for @about="[foo]" without major changes to CURIE ←

16:42:14 <Ralph> ... I'm satisfied with this conclusion

... I'm satisfied with this conclusion ←

16:42:28 <Ralph> Mark: the test case seems to be unnecessarily nested

Unknown Mark: the test case seems to be unnecessarily nested ←

16:42:38 <Ralph> Manu: yeah, probably; it went through several iterations

Unknown Manu_Sporny: yeah, probably; it went through several iterations ←

16:42:47 <Ralph> Mark: the middle DIV could probably be dropped

Unknown Mark: the middle DIV could probably be dropped ←

16:43:04 <Ralph> ... you only need the first one

... you only need the first one ←

16:43:35 <Ralph> Manu: yeah, it appears the  <div about="http://example.org/"> could be dropped

Unknown Manu_Sporny: yeah, it appears the <div about="http://example.org/"> could be dropped ←

16:43:48 <Ralph> ... the correct SPARQL should be ...

... the correct SPARQL should be ... ←

16:44:26 <Ralph> Shane: do you agree, Mark, that the same rules apply to @resource, @href, @src?

Unknown Shane_McCarron: do you agree, Mark, that the same rules apply to @resource, @href, @src? ←

16:44:33 <Ralph> Ben: only @resource uses SafeCURIE

Unknown Ben_Adida: only @resource uses SafeCURIE ←

16:44:48 <msporny> Here's the updated case:

Unknown msporny: Here's the updated case: ←

16:44:52 <msporny> ---------------------Test Case 123 XHTML--------------------------

Unknown msporny: ---------------------Test Case 123 XHTML-------------------------- ←

16:44:52 <msporny> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

Unknown msporny: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> ←

16:44:52 <msporny> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN"

Unknown msporny: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN" ←

16:44:52 <msporny>                       "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd">

Unknown msporny: "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd"> ←

16:44:52 <msporny> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"

Unknown msporny: <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" ←

16:44:53 <msporny>       xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">

Unknown msporny: xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"> ←

16:44:55 <msporny>    <head>

Unknown msporny: <head> ←

16:44:56 <msporny>       <title>Test Case 0123</title>

Unknown msporny: <title>Test Case 0123</title> ←

16:44:59 <msporny>    </head>

Unknown msporny: </head> ←

16:45:01 <msporny>    <body>

Unknown msporny: <body> ←

16:45:02 <msporny>       <p about="http://example.org/">

Unknown msporny: <p about="http://example.org/"> ←

16:45:05 <msporny>          <span about="[]" property="dc:title">Test Case 0123</span>

Unknown msporny: <span about="[]" property="dc:title">Test Case 0123</span> ←

16:45:06 <msporny>          checks to make sure RDFa processors resolve the empty

Unknown msporny: checks to make sure RDFa processors resolve the empty ←

16:45:09 <msporny>          CURIE correctly.

Unknown msporny: CURIE correctly. ←

16:45:11 <msporny>          <div>

Unknown msporny: <div> ←

16:45:13 <msporny>             <div resource="[]">

Unknown msporny: <div resource="[]"> ←

16:45:15 <msporny>                <span property="dc:contributor">Shane McCarron</span>

Unknown msporny: <span property="dc:contributor">Shane McCarron</span> ←

16:45:16 <msporny>                contributed to this test.

Unknown msporny: contributed to this test. ←

16:45:19 <msporny>             </div>

Unknown msporny: </div> ←

16:45:20 <msporny>          </div>

Unknown msporny: </div> ←

16:45:22 <msporny>       </p>

Unknown msporny: </p> ←

16:45:24 <msporny>    </body>

Unknown msporny: </body> ←

16:45:27 <msporny> </html>

Unknown msporny: </html> ←

16:45:29 <msporny> -----------------------------------------------------------------

Unknown msporny: ----------------------------------------------------------------- ←

16:45:31 <msporny> ---------------------Test Case 123 SPARQL -----------------------

Unknown msporny: ---------------------Test Case 123 SPARQL ----------------------- ←

16:45:33 <msporny> ASK WHERE {

Unknown msporny: ASK WHERE { ←

16:45:34 <msporny> <http://example.org/>

Unknown msporny: <http://example.org/> ←

16:45:37 <msporny>    <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title>

Unknown msporny: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title> ←

16:45:38 <msporny>       "Test Case 0123" .

Unknown msporny: "Test Case 0123" . ←

16:45:40 <Ralph> Shane: assuming that it is possible to create an illegal URI then the general rule would hold that an illegal URI is ignored

Unknown Shane_McCarron: assuming that it is possible to create an illegal URI then the general rule would hold that an illegal URI is ignored ←

16:45:41 <msporny> <http://example.org/>

Unknown msporny: <http://example.org/> ←

16:45:42 <msporny>    <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/contributor>

Unknown msporny: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/contributor> ←

16:45:45 <msporny>       "Shane McCarron" .

Unknown msporny: "Shane McCarron" . ←

16:45:47 <msporny> }

Unknown msporny: } ←

16:45:49 <msporny> ----------------------------------------------------------------

Unknown msporny: ---------------------------------------------------------------- ←

16:45:51 <Ralph> Mark: yeah

Unknown Mark: yeah ←

16:45:52 <msporny> more corrections:

Unknown msporny: more corrections: ←

16:45:57 <benadida> Shane: @href and @src?

Unknown Shane_McCarron: @href and @src? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown benadida ] ←

16:46:07 <Ralph> scribenick: benadida

(Scribe set to Unknown benadida)

16:46:07 <msporny> sorry ralph

Unknown msporny: sorry ralph ←

16:46:09 <msporny> ---------------------Test Case 123 XHTML--------------------------

Unknown msporny: ---------------------Test Case 123 XHTML-------------------------- ←

16:46:09 <msporny> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>

Unknown msporny: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> ←

16:46:09 <msporny> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN"

Unknown msporny: <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML+RDFa 1.0//EN" ←

16:46:09 <msporny>                       "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd">

Unknown msporny: "http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-rdfa-1.dtd"> ←

16:46:09 <msporny> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"

Unknown msporny: <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" ←

16:46:09 <msporny>       xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">

Unknown msporny: xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"> ←

16:46:12 <msporny>    <head>

Unknown msporny: <head> ←

16:46:14 <msporny>       <title>Test Case 0123</title>

Unknown msporny: <title>Test Case 0123</title> ←

16:46:15 <msporny>    </head>

Unknown msporny: </head> ←

16:46:17 <msporny>    <body>

Unknown msporny: <body> ←

16:46:19 <msporny>       <p about="http://example.org/">

Unknown msporny: <p about="http://example.org/"> ←

16:46:22 <msporny>          <span about="[]" property="dc:title">Test Case 0123</span>

Unknown msporny: <span about="[]" property="dc:title">Test Case 0123</span> ←

16:46:24 <msporny>          checks to make sure RDFa processors resolve the empty

Unknown msporny: checks to make sure RDFa processors resolve the empty ←

16:46:25 <msporny>          CURIE correctly.

Unknown msporny: CURIE correctly. ←

16:46:28 <msporny>          <div resource="[]">

Unknown msporny: <div resource="[]"> ←

16:46:30 <msporny>             <span property="dc:contributor">Shane McCarron</span>

Unknown msporny: <span property="dc:contributor">Shane McCarron</span> ←

16:46:31 <msporny>             contributed to this test.

Unknown msporny: contributed to this test. ←

16:46:33 <msporny>          </div>

Unknown msporny: </div> ←

16:46:36 <msporny>       </p>

Unknown msporny: </p> ←

16:46:38 <msporny>    </body>

Unknown msporny: </body> ←

16:46:40 <msporny> </html>

Unknown msporny: </html> ←

16:46:42 <msporny> -----------------------------------------------------------------

Unknown msporny: ----------------------------------------------------------------- ←

16:46:44 <msporny> ---------------------Test Case 123 SPARQL -----------------------

Unknown msporny: ---------------------Test Case 123 SPARQL ----------------------- ←

16:46:46 <msporny> ASK WHERE {

Unknown msporny: ASK WHERE { ←

16:46:47 <msporny> <http://example.org/>

Unknown msporny: <http://example.org/> ←

16:46:50 <msporny>    <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title>

Unknown msporny: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title> ←

16:46:52 <msporny>       "Test Case 0123" .

Unknown msporny: "Test Case 0123" . ←

16:46:54 <msporny> <http://example.org/>

Unknown msporny: <http://example.org/> ←

16:46:56 <msporny>    <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/contributor>

Unknown msporny: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/contributor> ←

16:46:57 <msporny>       "Shane McCarron" .

Unknown msporny: "Shane McCarron" . ←

16:46:59 <msporny> }

Unknown msporny: } ←

16:47:03 <msporny> ----------------------------------------------------------------

Unknown msporny: ---------------------------------------------------------------- ←

16:47:14 <benadida> Shane: @href and @src are evaluated the same way

Unknown Shane_McCarron: @href and @src are evaluated the same way ←

16:47:20 <msporny> +1

Unknown msporny: +1 ←

16:47:23 <markbirbeck> +1

Unknown markbirbeck: +1 ←

16:47:23 <benadida> Ben: +1

Unknown Ben_Adida: +1 ←

16:47:24 <mhausenblas> +1

Unknown mhausenblas: +1 ←

16:47:40 <benadida> RESOLVED: test case 123 with [] invalid CURIE approved

RESOLVED: test case 123 with [] invalid CURIE approved ←

16:48:47 <ShaneM> +1

Unknown ShaneM: +1 ←

16:49:05 <Zakim> -DrMichael

Zakim IRC Bot: -DrMichael ←

16:49:22 <Ralph> +1, though recommend changing the SPAN content to give a semantically less confusing title

Unknown Ralph_Swick: +1, though recommend changing the SPAN content to give a semantically less confusing title ←

16:50:27 <msporny> Action: Manu to create TC to test @resource="[]" does not set object based on TC 123.

ACTION: Manu to create TC to test @resource="[]" does not set object based on TC 123. ←

16:51:14 <msporny> Topic: comment from december about test suite:

5. comment from december about test suite:

16:52:42 <msporny> scribenick: msporny

(Scribe set to Unknown msporny)

16:53:07 <benadida> ACTION: Manu to look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Dec/0037.html

ACTION: Manu to look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Dec/0037.html ←

16:53:07 <msporny> Manu: Didn't have time to look at it in depth.

Unknown Manu_Sporny: Didn't have time to look at it in depth. ←

16:54:05 <benadida> consensus from dec 4th:

Unknown benadida: consensus from dec 4th: ←

16:54:06 <benadida> so I think we have consensus about @prefix='p1=u1 p2=u2 ...'

Unknown benadida: so I think we have consensus about @prefix='p1=u1 p2=u2 ...' ←

16:54:07 <benadida> ... and that @prefix='=u1' seems not to have value

Unknown benadida: ... and that @prefix='=u1' seems not to have value ←

16:54:07 <benadida> ... and @prefix='u1' may have value and should be further investigated

Unknown benadida: ... and @prefix='u1' may have value and should be further investigated ←

16:54:11 <benadida> --> http://www.w3.org/2008/12/04-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary

Unknown benadida: --> http://www.w3.org/2008/12/04-rdfa-minutes.html#item02 ←

16:54:12 <msporny> Topic: keyword bundles and HTML4-compatible RDFa

6. keyword bundles and HTML4-compatible RDFa

16:55:05 <msporny> benadida: We agree that there needs to be some non-xml based approach to declare namespaces. Should it be called @prefix?

Unknown benadida: We agree that there needs to be some non-xml based approach to declare namespaces. Should it be called @prefix? ←

16:55:14 <Ralph> s/ActionSummary/item02

16:55:19 <msporny> benadida: We need to make that decision.

Unknown benadida: We need to make that decision. ←

16:55:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

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16:56:08 <msporny> benadida: We should confirm the idea that a "with" statement is not useful. We drop the idea of @prefix="=u1".

Unknown benadida: We should confirm the idea that a "with" statement is not useful. We drop the idea of @prefix="=u1". ←

16:56:42 <msporny> benadida: If we want to provide bundles, are they bundles of reserved words, or more involved transformations.

Unknown benadida: If we want to provide bundles, are they bundles of reserved words, or more involved transformations. ←

16:57:19 <msporny> markbirbeck: I don't think we finalized whether the syntax within the attribute is "a=b" or "a:b" or something else.

Unknown markbirbeck: I don't think we finalized whether the syntax within the attribute is "a=b" or "a:b" or something else. ←

16:58:21 <msporny> markbirbeck: If it is some sort of transformation, it would be a set of transformations defined using RDF.

Unknown markbirbeck: If it is some sort of transformation, it would be a set of transformations defined using RDF. ←

16:58:31 <msporny> markbirbeck: Fresnel is one example of this approach.

Unknown markbirbeck: Fresnel is one example of this approach. ←

16:58:57 <msporny> markbirbeck: Transformations are out of scope in a way, we don't need to overload the RDFa parsing algorithm.

Unknown markbirbeck: Transformations are out of scope in a way, we don't need to overload the RDFa parsing algorithm. ←

16:59:39 <msporny> benadida: Do you have a draft of your deeper thoughts about this issue?

Unknown benadida: Do you have a draft of your deeper thoughts about this issue? ←

17:00:03 <msporny> markbirbeck: I'm a bit weary of discussing this off-list, prefer to have the discussion in the public.

Unknown markbirbeck: I'm a bit weary of discussing this off-list, prefer to have the discussion in the public. ←

17:00:22 <msporny> markbirbeck: We're keen to address the issue

Unknown markbirbeck: We're keen to address the issue ←

17:00:33 <msporny> benadida: I agree.

Unknown benadida: I agree. ←

17:01:09 <msporny> markbirbeck: I like "keyword bundle"

Unknown markbirbeck: I like "keyword bundle" ←

17:02:05 <msporny> benadida: It would be good to see how all this stuff plays together.

Unknown benadida: It would be good to see how all this stuff plays together. ←

17:02:40 <msporny> ShaneM: These should be two separate topics. @prefix is one, keyword bundles is the other.

Unknown ShaneM: These should be two separate topics. @prefix is one, keyword bundles is the other. ←

17:03:11 <msporny> benadida: Any other decisions that we need to make that are missing?

Unknown benadida: Any other decisions that we need to make that are missing? ←

17:03:30 <msporny> markbirbeck: there isn't any particular reason that we couldn't end up with two more attributes.

Unknown markbirbeck: there isn't any particular reason that we couldn't end up with two more attributes. ←

17:03:50 <msporny> markbirbeck: We could agree on @prefix and get that done.

Unknown markbirbeck: We could agree on @prefix and get that done. ←

17:04:12 <msporny> markbirbeck: @token and keyword bundles could use another attribute.

Unknown markbirbeck: @token and keyword bundles could use another attribute. ←

17:04:19 <msporny> markbirbeck: and it could come later.

Unknown markbirbeck: and it could come later. ←

17:04:46 <ShaneM> oooh - we could introduce curie-xxx attributes just to irritate people in the tag

Unknown ShaneM: oooh - we could introduce curie-xxx attributes just to irritate people in the tag (that was sarcasm!) ←

17:04:55 <msporny> @token would be used to specify these values at run-time.

@token would be used to specify these values at run-time. ←

17:05:10 <msporny> server-curie-xx

server-curie-xx ←

17:05:34 <ShaneM> s/people in the tag/people in the tag (that was sarcasm!)/

17:05:50 <msporny> benadida: We do have a proposal on the table for @prefix, prefix="p1=u1 p2=u2"

Unknown benadida: We do have a proposal on the table for @prefix, prefix="p1=u1 p2=u2" ←

17:06:40 <msporny> markbirbeck: There are some benefits to have @prefix in the HEAD - it could be argued that it should apply in the BODY.

Unknown markbirbeck: There are some benefits to have @prefix in the HEAD - it could be argued that it should apply in the BODY. ←

17:07:35 <msporny> ShaneM: Didn't we talk about using LINK to specify that?

Unknown ShaneM: Didn't we talk about using LINK to specify that? ←

17:07:50 <msporny> markbirbeck: Yes, or we could extend it in some other way - a new element or attribute.

Unknown markbirbeck: Yes, or we could extend it in some other way - a new element or attribute. ←

17:08:24 <ShaneM> I agree that having prefix / keyword bundles in the head that apply to the entire document makes sense.

Unknown ShaneM: I agree that having prefix / keyword bundles in the head that apply to the entire document makes sense. ←

17:08:42 <Ralph> Ben: regrets for 22 Jan

Unknown Ben_Adida: regrets for 22 Jan [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph_Swick ] ←

17:08:54 <Ralph> next meeting: 22 Jan

Unknown Ralph_Swick: next meeting: 22 Jan ←

17:09:03 <Zakim> -ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←

17:09:04 <Zakim> -markbirbeck

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17:09:04 <Zakim> -Ben_Adida

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ben_Adida ←

17:09:13 <Zakim> -Ralph

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ralph ←

17:09:14 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended

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17:09:15 <Zakim> Attendees were Ralph, ShaneM, msporny, DrMichael, Ben_Adida, +0208761aaaa, markbirbeck

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17:09:22 <Ralph> zakim, bye

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17:09:27 <Ralph> rrsagent, please draft minutes

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17:09:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> I see 15 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-actions.rdf :

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: fix the .htaccess for the XHTML namespace [1]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about="" on HEAD and BODY [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc]  [2]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to add public-rdfa examples to wiki and think of slightly improved top-level organization [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]  [3]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to put up information on "how to write RDFa" with screencast possibly and instructions on bookmarklet. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]  [4]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI is set up. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]  [5]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu talk with Jamie McCarthy about an AskSlashdot piece [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action04]  [6]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]  [7]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu write the perl code for Slashdot. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]  [8]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]  [9]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mark to send Ben ubiquity related wizard stuff [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]  [10]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]  [11]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]  [12]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]  [13]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu to create TC to test @resource="[]" does not set object based on TC 123. [14]

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18:08:01 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu to look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Dec/0037.html [15]

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