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RDFa Task Force

Minutes of 13 December 2007

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0077.html
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Unknown Manu, Unknown Ralph, Unknown ShaneM, Unknown Simone, Unknown benadida, Unknown markbirbeck, Unknown markbirbeck_, Unknown msporny
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16:04:29 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-irc

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16:04:53 <ShaneM>  rrsagent, meeting is public

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Unknown ShaneM: rrsagent, meeting is public

16:04:55 <msporny> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html

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Unknown msporny: http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html

16:05:03 <benadida> http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent

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16:05:30 <benadida> Meeting: RDFa Task Force
16:05:34 <benadida> Chair: Ben

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16:05:43 <benadida> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0077.html
16:06:26 <ShaneM>  scribe: ShaneM

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16:06:26 <benadida> Scribe: ShaneM

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(Scribe set to Unknown ShaneM)

16:06:34 <benadida> ScribeNick: ShaneM

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16:09:17 <ShaneM>  Topic: Action Items

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Topic: Action Items

16:09:45 <benadida> actions -> http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary

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Unknown benadida: actions -> http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ActionSummary

16:10:10 <Zakim> +Ralph

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16:10:25 <Simone> Zakim, passcode please?

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16:10:25 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Simone

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Simone

16:10:44 <Ralph> rrsagent, please make record public

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Unknown Ralph: rrsagent, please make record public

16:10:46 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Ben to respond to comment on follow-your-nose [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action02] -- continues

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ACTION: Ben to respond to comment on follow-your-nose [recorded in ACTION-02]">http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-02] -- continues

16:10:47 <Zakim> +??P32

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16:11:01 <Simone> Zakim, ??P32 is me

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16:11:01 <Zakim> +Simone; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Simone; got it

16:11:20 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Manu to add test cases for @instanceof combined with hanging @rel [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action10] --done

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ACTION: Manu to add test cases for @instanceof combined with hanging @rel [recorded in ACTION-10]">http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-10] --done

16:12:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

16:12:39 <ShaneM>  [DONE] ACTION: Manu to put together set of test cases for hanging @rel [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]

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[DONE] ACTION: Manu to put together set of test cases for hanging @rel [recorded in ACTION-09]">http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-09]

16:13:04 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Ralph followup with Dublin Core on what's going on with their namespace URI [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]

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ACTION: Ralph followup with Dublin Core on what's going on with their namespace URI [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-01]

16:13:05 <ShaneM>  --continues

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--continues

16:13:24 <Ralph> rrsagent, drop action 2

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Unknown Ralph: rrsagent, drop ACTION-2

16:13:36 <ShaneM>  [DONE] ACTION: Ben check that browsers do preserve whitespace in attribute values [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action07]

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[DONE] ACTION: Ben check that browsers do preserve whitespace in attribute values [recorded in ACTION-07]">http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-07]

16:13:43 <ShaneM>  Whitespace is always preserved in all attribute values.

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Whitespace is always preserved in all attribute values.

16:13:49 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]

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ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-01]

16:13:52 <ShaneM>  --continues

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--continues

16:13:59 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Ben to add status of various implementations on rdfa.info [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]

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ACTION: Ben to add status of various implementations on rdfa.info [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06]

16:14:01 <ShaneM>  --continues

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--continues

16:14:44 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Ben to set up a proper scribe schedule [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]

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ACTION: Ben to set up a proper scribe schedule [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-01]

16:14:46 <ShaneM>  --continues

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--continues

16:14:54 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action06]

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ACTION: Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06]

16:14:59 <ShaneM>  --continues

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--continues

16:15:40 <ShaneM>  TOPIC: Test Case Review

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TOPIC: Test Case Review

16:16:25 <msporny> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0071.html

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Unknown msporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0071.html

16:16:53 <msporny> http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/rdfa-test-harness/

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Unknown msporny: http://rdfa.digitalbazaar.com/rdfa-test-harness/

16:17:02 <ShaneM>  Test Case 46...

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Test Case 46...

16:17:56 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Shane to add anchors to rdfa-syntax spec for element and attribute definitions

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ACTION: Shane to add anchors to rdfa-syntax spec for element and attribute definitions

16:18:29 <markbirbeck_> I can't quite hear properly...are we on test 46?

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Unknown markbirbeck_: I can't quite hear properly...are we on test 46?

16:21:39 <ShaneM>  ben and mark agree on an interpretation, but that does not match the current version of the test.  There are two bnodes generated.

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ben and mark agree on an interpretation, but that does not match the current version of the test. There are two bnodes generated.

16:22:51 <ShaneM>  manu seems to get what they are saying.

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manu seems to get what they are saying.

16:22:54 <ShaneM>  this test remains on hold.

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this test remains on hold.

16:24:21 <msporny> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0070.html

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Unknown msporny: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0070.html

16:24:36 <ShaneM>  Test Case 51...

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Test Case 51...

16:26:11 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller]

16:26:34 <Ralph> Shane: isn't @about="" the default?

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Unknown Shane: isn't @about="" the default? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ]

16:26:35 <Ralph> Mark: yep

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Unknown Mark: yep [ Scribe Assist by Unknown Ralph ]

16:26:44 <Zakim> + +1.540.641.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.540.641.aaaa

16:26:53 <Ralph> zakim, aaaa is Manu

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Unknown Ralph: zakim, aaaa is Manu

16:26:53 <Zakim> +Manu; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Manu; got it

16:27:17 <Zakim> -benadida

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Zakim IRC Bot: -benadida

16:27:38 <Zakim> +benadida

Zakim IRC Bot: +benadida

16:29:40 <ShaneM>  Purpose of the change is to set the type of the entire document.

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Purpose of the change is to set the type of the entire document.

16:30:36 <ShaneM>  Mark is concerned that this test is not using the *right* way to set the document type.

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Mark is concerned that this test is not using the *right* way to set the document type.

16:30:49 <ShaneM>  Ralph says that is probably true, but this test case is still valid.

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Ralph says that is probably true, but this test case is still valid.

16:30:55 <ShaneM>  Shane agrees.

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Shane agrees.

16:31:48 <ShaneM>  Mark is conerned that the right way to set document type (@instanceof on head) is probably not being tested yet.

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Mark is conerned that the right way to set document type (@instanceof on head) is probably not being tested yet.

16:32:19 <Ralph> +1 to adding another test for the HEAD alternative to the @about="" @instanceof case

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Unknown Ralph: +1 to adding another test for the HEAD alternative to the @about="" @instanceof case

16:32:58 <ShaneM>  The title of test 51 is also misleading.  It should be single property and about.

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The title of test 51 is also misleading. It should be single property and about.

16:33:47 <ShaneM>  Ralpha restates the philosophy that "more test cases is better than too few".  If the title is misleading, we should change it.

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Ben restates the philosophy that "more test cases is better than too few". If the title is misleading, we should change it.

16:33:55 <Ralph> s/Ralpha/Ben/
16:34:27 <markbirbeck_> <head instanceof="foaf:Document">

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Unknown markbirbeck_: <head instanceof="foaf:Document">

16:34:29 <markbirbeck_>  ...

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Unknown markbirbeck_: ...

16:34:32 <markbirbeck_> </head>

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Unknown markbirbeck_: </head>

16:34:33 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Manu create an additional test case where @instanceof on head is used to set the global document type.

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ACTION: Manu create an additional test case where @instanceof on head is used to set the global document type.

16:35:20 <ShaneM>  Mark: this works because @about="" is implied on the head element.

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Mark: this works because @about="" is implied on the head element.

16:35:57 <msporny> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0025.html

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16:36:07 <msporny> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0071.html

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16:36:11 <ShaneM>  Test Case 56...

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Test Case 56...

16:38:13 <ShaneM>  Everyone agrees that this is fine.  Approved.

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Everyone agrees that this is fine. Approved.

16:38:25 <ShaneM>  Test Case 57...

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Test Case 57...

16:39:09 <Zakim> -benadida

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Zakim IRC Bot: -benadida

16:39:54 <Zakim> +benadida

Zakim IRC Bot: +benadida

16:40:18 <ShaneM>  This one also seems fine.  Approved.

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This one also seems fine. Approved.

16:40:28 <ShaneM>  Test Case 58...

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Test Case 58...

16:40:45 <Ralph> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0028.html

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Unknown Ralph: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0028.html

16:41:42 <ShaneM>  The SPARQL needs to have the angle brackets removed from the bnodes.

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The SPARQL needs to have the angle brackets removed from the bnodes.

16:42:47 <ShaneM>  Approved modulo fixing the SPARQL (remove angle brackets from bnodes)

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Approved modulo fixing the SPARQL (remove angle brackets from bnodes)

16:43:01 <Ralph> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0042.html

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Unknown Ralph: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0042.html

16:43:01 <ShaneM>  Test Case 59...

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Test Case 59...

16:43:16 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0042.html proposed test 59

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Unknown Ralph: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0042.html proposed test 59

16:43:57 <ShaneM>  Manu asks of @instanceof applies to @resource.  Ben says it does not, and Mark agrees.

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Manu asks of @instanceof applies to @resource. Ben says it does not, and Mark agrees.

16:44:03 <ShaneM>  s/of/if/

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s/of/if/

16:46:46 <ShaneM>  Discussion about @src and whether it should be a subject or an object.....

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Discussion about @src and whether it should be a subject or an object.....

16:48:47 <benadida> action: Ben to write up example and explanation of @src as subject for IMG

ACTION: Ben to write up example and explanation of @src as subject for IMG

16:51:07 <markbirbeck_> This is from Ivan's email:

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Unknown markbirbeck_: This is from Ivan's email:

16:51:10 <markbirbeck_> - an old use case for @instanceof was the

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Unknown markbirbeck_: - an old use case for @instanceof was the

16:51:10 <markbirbeck_> <div about="#a" >

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Unknown markbirbeck_: <div about="#a" >

16:51:10 <markbirbeck_>   <img rel="a:b" src="http://a.b.c" instanceof="w:p"/>

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Unknown markbirbeck_: <img rel="a:b" src="http://a.b.c" instanceof="w:p"/>

16:51:10 <markbirbeck_> </div>

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Unknown markbirbeck_: </div>

16:51:10 <markbirbeck_> where we wanted rdf:type to apply on <http://a.b.c>. My reading from

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Unknown markbirbeck_: where we wanted rdf:type to apply on <http://a.b.c>. My reading from

16:51:11 <markbirbeck_> these rules is that this will not happen...

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Unknown markbirbeck_: these rules is that this will not happen...

16:51:33 <markbirbeck_> It's in the thread called "New processing rules", and is his first reply to me.

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Unknown markbirbeck_: It's in the thread called "New processing rules", and is his first reply to me.

16:51:43 <ShaneM>  This test case is consistent with the current rules.

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This test case is consistent with the current rules.

16:52:05 <ShaneM>  Approved, but note that interpretation might change if Ben's action results in a change.

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Approved, but note that interpretation might change if Ben's action results in a change.

16:52:13 <markbirbeck_> Would be interesting to know if Ivan would be happy with:

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Unknown markbirbeck_: Would be interesting to know if Ivan would be happy with:

16:52:13 <ShaneM>  Test Case 60...

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Test Case 60...

16:52:14 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0043.html proposed test 60

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Unknown Ralph: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0043.html proposed test 60

16:52:29 <markbirbeck_> <div about="#a" rel="a:b">

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Unknown markbirbeck_: <div about="#a" rel="a:b">

16:52:45 <markbirbeck_> <img src="http://a.b.c" instanceof="w:p"/>

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Unknown markbirbeck_: <img src="http://a.b.c" instanceof="w:p"/>

16:52:48 <markbirbeck_> </div>

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Unknown markbirbeck_: </div>

16:53:20 <ShaneM>  Ralph likes this test!

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Ralph likes this test!

16:53:29 <ShaneM>  No objections.  Approved.

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No objections. Approved.

16:53:35 <ShaneM>  Test Case 61...

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Test Case 61...

16:53:44 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0059.html proposed test 61

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Unknown Ralph: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0059.html proposed test 61

16:55:26 <ShaneM>  The SPARQL is slightly wrong - the prefix for default CURIEs is http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab#

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The SPARQL is slightly wrong - the prefix for default CURIEs is http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml/vocab#

16:55:39 <ShaneM>  Approved, after fixing the default prefix.

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Approved, after fixing the default prefix.

16:56:04 <ShaneM>  Test Case 62...

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Test Case 62...

16:56:49 <ShaneM>  Shane notes that the href should really be for "prevChapter", not "nextChapter".

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Shane notes that the href should really be for "prevChapter", not "nextChapter".

16:57:32 <ShaneM>  Mark suggests we use a relative URI for the next test / previous test as part of the test.

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Mark suggests we use a relative URI for the next test / previous test as part of the test.

16:57:32 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0060.html proposed test 62

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Unknown Ralph: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0060.html proposed test 62

16:58:55 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Manu to add test cases to ensure URLs are resolved relative to base correctly against @about, @resource, and @href.

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ACTION: Manu to add test cases to ensure URLs are resolved relative to base correctly against @about, @resource, and @href.

16:59:54 <ShaneM>  Change the @href in test case 62 to 0061.html for the "prev".  Also change the text in the document so it is more consistent.  And the vocab URI prefix.

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Change the @href in test case 62 to 0061.html for the "prev". Also change the text in the document so it is more consistent. And the vocab URI prefix.

17:01:08 <ShaneM>  s/0061/0063/

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s/0061/0063/

17:02:10 <ShaneM>  URI in the SPARQL should be 0063 as well ( we are a "rev" of a "prev")

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URI in the SPARQL should be 0063 as well ( we are a "rev" of a "prev")

17:02:28 <ShaneM>  Manu requests this remain on hold 'cause there are a lot of changes.

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Manu requests this remain on hold 'cause there are a lot of changes.

17:03:46 <ShaneM>  Test Case 63...

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Test Case 63...

17:03:47 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0061.html proposed test 63

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Unknown Ralph: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0061.html proposed test 63

17:04:37 <ShaneM>  Change title to "empty prefix".  Change CURIE default prefix to vocab#.

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Change title to "empty prefix". Change CURIE default prefix to vocab#.

17:05:33 <ShaneM>  Also change the rel to reference the next test case.

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Also change the rel to reference the next test case.

17:05:48 <ShaneM>  Approved after making the above changes.

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Approved after making the above changes.

17:05:52 <ShaneM>  Test Case 64...

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Test Case 64...

17:06:13 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0068.html proposed test 64

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Unknown Ralph: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0068.html proposed test 64

17:10:17 <ShaneM>  Shane was confused about where "_:dan" lives.  It doesn't really live in this example, but that's okay.

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Shane was confused about where "_:dan" lives. It doesn't really live in this example, but that's okay.

17:11:20 <ShaneM>  Ralph suggests we change the example to use foaf:inbox instead of foaf:knows

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Ralph suggests we change the example to use foaf:mbox instead of foaf:knows

17:12:57 <Ralph> s/:inbox/:mbox/
17:13:05 <ShaneM>  Ben suggests we leave it alone - its a valid test as is.

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Ben suggests we leave it alone - its a valid test as is.

17:13:56 <ShaneM>  Simplest change is to get away from a mailto

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Simplest change is to get away from a mailto

17:16:29 <ShaneM>  Approved modulo changing the URL to an href for Libby.

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Approved modulo changing the URL to an href for Libby.

17:16:56 <ShaneM>  ACTION: Ralph to check with Libby and make sure it is okay for us to use her address.

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ACTION: Ralph to check with Libby and make sure it is okay for us to use her address.

17:17:01 <ShaneM>  Test Case 65...

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Test Case 65...

17:17:40 <Ralph> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0067.html proposed test 65

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Unknown Ralph: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Dec/0067.html proposed test 65

17:18:04 <ShaneM>  Approved with the change that there should be no nagle brackets around bnodes in the SPARQL.

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Approved with the change that there should be no nagle brackets around bnodes in the SPARQL.

17:18:33 <ShaneM>  Test Cases 47, 48, 52, and 53...

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Test Cases 47, 48, 52, and 53...

17:18:51 <ShaneM>  These tests have @instanceof apply to @resource.  Since this is no longer the case...

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These tests have @instanceof apply to @resource. Since this is no longer the case...

17:19:30 <ShaneM>  TOPIC:  Chaining Rules

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TOPIC: Chaining Rules

17:19:45 <ShaneM>  Ben asked if anyone objects to the path we are going down.  No one did.

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Ben asked if anyone objects to the path we are going down. No one did.

17:19:56 <benadida> PROPOSE that we accept the Birbeck Chaining Rules (with some edge cases to be worked out soon)

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Unknown benadida: PROPOSE that we accept the Birbeck Chaining Rules (with some edge cases to be worked out soon)

17:20:27 <ShaneM>  RESOLVED: we accept the Birbeck Chaining Rules (with some edge cases to be worked out soon)

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RESOLVED: we accept the Birbeck Chaining Rules (with some edge cases to be worked out soon)

17:20:48 <ShaneM>  Ben asked when we will have a draft with the new rules?  Mark says nearly done.  Tomorrow?

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Ben asked when we will have a draft with the new rules? Mark says nearly done. Tomorrow?

17:21:56 <ShaneM>  Okay - Mark will have his changes done sometime tomorrow - Ben and Shane will review over the weekend.  Others are invited to review as well.

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Okay - Mark will have his changes done sometime tomorrow - Ben and Shane will review over the weekend. Others are invited to review as well.

17:22:11 <Zakim> -markbirbeck

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Zakim IRC Bot: -markbirbeck

17:22:15 <Zakim> -Manu

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17:22:17 <Zakim> -benadida

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17:22:18 <Zakim> -ShaneM

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17:22:19 <Zakim> -Ralph

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17:22:26 <Zakim> -Simone

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17:22:28 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)11:00AM has ended

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17:22:29 <Zakim> Attendees were [IPcaller], ShaneM, benadida, markbirbeck, Ralph, Simone, +1.540.641.aaaa, Manu

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were [IPcaller], ShaneM, benadida, markbirbeck, Ralph, Simone, +1.540.641.aaaa, Manu

17:26:54 <Ralph> [I'm not finding a FOAF URI for Libby Miller -- even DanBri foaf:knows [ a foaf:Person, foaf:mbox mailto:libby.miller@bristol.ac.uk]; without giving her a URI

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Unknown Ralph: [I'm not finding a FOAF URI for Libby Miller -- even DanBri foaf:knows [ a foaf:Person, foaf:mbox mailto:libby.miller@bristol.ac.uk]; without giving her a URI

17:27:45 <Ralph> [so perhaps our test should be _:Danbri foaf:knows <http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/card#i>.

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Unknown Ralph: [so perhaps our test should be _:Danbri foaf:knows <http://www.w3.org/People/Berners-Lee/card#i>.

17:28:03 <Ralph> rrsagent, please draft minutes

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Unknown Ralph: rrsagent, please draft minutes

17:28:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-minutes.html Ralph

17:30:11 <Ralph> rrsagent, bye

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Unknown Ralph: rrsagent, bye

17:30:11 <RRSAgent> I see 11 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 11 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-actions.rdf :

17:30:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to respond to comment on follow-your-nose [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action02] -- continues [1]

ACTION: Ben to respond to comment on follow-your-nose [recorded in ACTION-02]">http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-02] -- continues [1]

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17:30:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph followup with Dublin Core on what's going on with their namespace URI [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [3]

ACTION: Ralph followup with Dublin Core on what's going on with their namespace URI [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/12/06-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-01] [3]

17:30:11 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-irc#T16-13-04

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17:30:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [4]

ACTION: Ben followup with Fabien on getting his RDFa GRDDL transform transferred to W3C [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/11/15-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-01] [4]

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17:30:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to add status of various implementations on rdfa.info [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [5]

ACTION: Ben to add status of various implementations on rdfa.info [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2007/10/04-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06] [5]

17:30:11 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-irc#T16-13-59

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17:30:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to set up a proper scribe schedule [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action01] [6]

ACTION: Ben to set up a proper scribe schedule [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/10/11-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-01] [6]

17:30:11 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-irc#T16-14-44

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17:30:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#action06] [7]

ACTION: Michael to create "Microformats done right -- unambiguous taxonomies via RDF" on the wiki [recorded in ACTION-06]">http://www.w3.org/2007/08/23-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-06] [7]

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17:30:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Shane to add anchors to rdfa-syntax spec for element and attribute definitions [8]

ACTION: Shane to add anchors to rdfa-syntax spec for element and attribute definitions [8]

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17:30:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu create an additional test case where @instanceof on head is used to set the global document type. [9]

ACTION: Manu create an additional test case where @instanceof on head is used to set the global document type. [9]

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17:30:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to write up example and explanation of @src as subject for IMG [10]

ACTION: Ben to write up example and explanation of @src as subject for IMG [10]

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17:30:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Manu to add test cases to ensure URLs are resolved relative to base correctly against @about, @resource, and @href. [11]

ACTION: Manu to add test cases to ensure URLs are resolved relative to base correctly against @about, @resource, and @href. [11]

17:30:11 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-irc#T16-58-55

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-irc#T16-58-55

17:30:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ralph to check with Libby and make sure it is okay for us to use her address. [12]

ACTION: Ralph to check with Libby and make sure it is okay for us to use her address. [12]

17:30:11 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-irc#T17-16-56

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/12/13-rdfa-irc#T17-16-56



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