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RDFa Weekly Teleconference

Minutes of 23 April 2007

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Apr/0135
Seen
Unknown Ben_Adida, Unknown EliasT, Unknown FabienG, Unknown Mark_Birbeck, Unknown ShaneM, Unknown Simone, Unknown Steven, Unknown benadida, Unknown markbirbeck, Unknown mhausenblas, Unknown wing
Chair
Unknown Ben
Scribe
Unknown Steven
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. that we prepare the XHTML1.1 TCs by ignoring the xmlns validation issues for now link
  2. that we prepare the XHTML1.1 TCs by ignoring the xmlns validation issues for now link
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12:58:40 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-irc

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12:58:47 <Steven> zakim, this will be rdfa

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Unknown Steven: zakim, this will be rdfa

12:58:47 <Zakim> ok, Steven; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes

12:58:57 <Steven> rrsagent, make log public

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Unknown Steven: rrsagent, make log public

12:59:59 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has now started

13:00:05 <Zakim> +Ben_Adida

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ben_Adida

13:00:12 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617

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Unknown Steven: zakim, dial steven-617

13:00:12 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made

13:00:13 <Zakim> +Steven

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven

13:00:22 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IBMCambridge]

13:00:32 <wing> zakim, IBMCambridge is wing

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Unknown wing: zakim, IBMCambridge is wing

13:00:32 <Zakim> +wing; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +wing; got it

13:00:54 <Zakim> + +043316876aaaa

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13:01:04 <mhausenblas> zakim, aaaa is me

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Unknown mhausenblas: zakim, aaaa is me

13:01:04 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it

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13:01:56 <mhausenblas> zakim, who is here?

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Unknown mhausenblas: zakim, who is here?

13:01:56 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ben_Adida, Steven, wing, mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Ben_Adida, Steven, wing, mhausenblas

13:01:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see Simone, markbirbeck, wing, benadida, mhausenblas, RRSAgent, Zakim, Steven, FabienG, ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Simone, markbirbeck, wing, benadida, mhausenblas, RRSAgent, Zakim, Steven, FabienG, ShaneM

13:02:07 <Zakim> +??P4

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13:02:19 <ShaneM> zakim, ??p4 is ShaneM

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Unknown ShaneM: zakim, ??p4 is ShaneM

13:02:19 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it

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13:03:47 <benadida> zakim, pick a victim

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Unknown benadida: zakim, pick a victim

13:03:47 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Ben_Adida

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Ben_Adida

13:03:56 <benadida> zakim, pick a victim

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Unknown benadida: zakim, pick a victim

13:03:56 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose ShaneM

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13:03:58 <Simone> Zakim, passcode

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13:03:58 <Zakim> I don't understand 'passcode', Simone

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'passcode', Simone

13:04:05 <Steven> Scribe Steven

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13:04:09 <Steven> Scribe: Steven

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(Scribe set to Unknown Steven)

13:04:10 <Simone> Zakim, code please?

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Unknown Simone: Zakim, code please?

13:04:10 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Simone

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), Simone

13:04:25 <Steven> Meeting: RDFa Weekly Teleconference
13:04:28 <Steven> Chair: Ben

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13:04:40 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Apr/0135
13:05:03 <Zakim> +??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6

13:05:10 <Steven> Topic: Actions

1. Actions

13:05:16 <Simone> Zakim, P6 is me

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Unknown Simone: Zakim, P6 is me

13:05:16 <Zakim> sorry, Simone, I do not recognize a party named 'P6'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Simone, I do not recognize a party named 'P6'

13:05:25 <Simone> Zakim, ??P6 is me

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Unknown Simone: Zakim, ??P6 is me

13:05:25 <Zakim> +Simone; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Simone; got it

13:05:31 <Steven> [NEW] ACTION: Ben to ask W3C about XML-DTD validation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action19]

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[NEW] ACTION: Ben to ask W3C about XML-DTD validation [recorded in ACTION-19]">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-19]

13:05:35 <Steven> -- Ongoing

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-- Ongoing

13:06:12 <Zakim> +Mark_Birbeck

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13:06:38 <Steven> Ben: My action is "why doesn't W3C Validator accept xmlns?"

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Unknown Ben: My action is "why doesn't W3C Validator accept xmlns?"

13:06:47 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0001.xhtml

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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0001.xhtml

13:06:55 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0001.xhtml

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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0001.xhtml

13:06:58 <Steven> mh: The test case above validates

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Unknown mh: The test case above validates

13:07:10 <Steven> ... at W3C

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... at W3C

13:07:42 <Zakim> +FabienG

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13:08:00 <Steven> Ben: I think this will scare people away using the internal subset

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Unknown Ben: I think this will scare people away using the internal subset

13:08:31 <Steven> mh: It is just to get it to validate

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Unknown mh: It is just to get it to validate

13:08:41 <Steven> Ben: I am very worried doing it this way

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Unknown Ben: I am very worried doing it this way

13:08:49 <markbirbeck> q+

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Unknown markbirbeck: q+

13:09:13 <Steven> q+

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q+

13:09:22 <Steven> Mark: Let's table this for another week

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Unknown Mark: Let's table this for another week

13:09:43 <Steven> ... I chatted with Shane, who had chatted with Steven, and I think there is a solution emrging

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... I chatted with Shane, who had chatted with Steven, and I think there is a solution emerging

13:09:50 <Steven> s/emr/emer/
13:10:01 <Steven> ... let's put it properly add it to the agenda

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... let's put it properly add it to the agenda

13:10:21 <Steven> Ben: I'll put it on the agenda in 2 weeks

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Unknown Ben: I'll put it on the agenda in 2 weeks

13:10:30 <Steven> ... when I am back from my move

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... when I am back from my move

13:11:06 <Steven> Steven: I saw that this had been added as a bug on the validator bug system

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Unknown Steven: I saw that this had been added as a bug on the validator bug system

13:11:11 <Steven> Topic: Test cases

2. Test cases

13:11:25 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/

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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/

13:11:45 <Steven> mh: Look at the test suite, you'll see the partitioning has been done

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Unknown mh: Look at the test suite, you'll see the partitioning has been done

13:11:56 <Steven> ... there is a question of the correct format for XHTML 1.1

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... there is a question of the correct format for XHTML 1.1

13:12:04 <Steven> ... extension, namespaces etc.

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... extension, namespaces etc.

13:12:22 <Steven> ... we need to decide that

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... we need to decide that

13:12:41 <Steven> Ben: Once you have an answer, it will be straight-forward to go with it

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Unknown Ben: Once you have an answer, it will be straight-forward to go with it

13:12:46 <Steven> mh: Yes

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Unknown mh: Yes

13:13:33 <Steven> Ben: I must check the bookmarklet on the latest test cases

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Unknown Ben: I must check the bookmarklet on the latest test cases

13:13:35 <Steven> ... next week

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... next week

13:13:49 <Steven> ... you got feedback from Fabien?

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... you got feedback from Fabien?

13:14:24 <Steven> mh: Yes

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Unknown mh: Yes

13:15:37 <Steven> Ben: Can you proceed?

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Unknown Ben: Can you proceed?

13:15:49 <Steven> mh: We can do the core set

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Unknown mh: We can do the core set

13:15:51 <Steven> q+

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q+

13:16:17 <Steven> ack mark

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ack mark

13:17:30 <benadida> Steven: W3C urls are supposed to be opaque

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Unknown Steven: W3C urls are supposed to be opaque [ Scribe Assist by Unknown benadida ]

13:17:34 <benadida> ... no extension

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Unknown benadida: ... no extension

13:17:39 <benadida> ... extension and mime type are orthogonal

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Unknown benadida: ... extension and mime type are orthogonal

13:17:55 <benadida> ... if we name it .html but override mime type with .htaccess, it will work in IE

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Unknown benadida: ... if we name it .html but override mime type with .htaccess, it will work in IE

13:19:00 <benadida> PROPOSE: that we prepare the XHTML1.1 TCs by ignoring the xmlns validation issues for now

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Unknown PROPOSE: that we prepare the XHTML1.1 TCs by ignoring the xmlns validation issues for now [ Scribe Assist by Unknown benadida ]

13:19:07 <mhausenblas> +1

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Unknown mhausenblas: +1

13:20:31 <Steven> Simone: Other markup languages have similar problems to us

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Unknown Simone: Other markup languages have similar problems to us

13:20:39 <Steven> ... the validator will fix it

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... the validator will fix it

13:20:46 <Steven> ... I think this is a correct approach

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... I think this is a correct approach

13:21:11 <Zakim> +Elias_Torres

Zakim IRC Bot: +Elias_Torres

13:22:15 <Steven> q-

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q-

13:22:25 <EliasT> Zakim, mute me

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, mute me

13:22:25 <Zakim> Elias_Torres should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Elias_Torres should now be muted

13:22:32 <EliasT> Zakim, Elias_Torres is me

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, Elias_Torres is me

13:22:32 <Zakim> +EliasT; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +EliasT; got it

13:23:21 <benadida> RESOLVED: that we prepare the XHTML1.1 TCs by ignoring the xmlns validation issues for now

RESOLVED: that we prepare the XHTML1.1 TCs by ignoring the xmlns validation issues for now

13:23:25 <Steven> Ben: Any opposition or abstention?

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Unknown Ben: Any opposition or abstention?

13:23:28 <Simone> +1

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Unknown Simone: +1

13:23:28 <Steven> [none]

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[none]

13:23:41 <Steven> RESOLVED: that we prepare the XHTML1.1 TCs by ignoring the xmlns validation issues for now

RESOLVED: that we prepare the XHTML1.1 TCs by ignoring the xmlns validation issues for now

13:24:09 <Steven> PROPOSAL: use the suffic .html on the files and serve as application/xhtml+xml

PROPOSED: use the suffix .html on the files and serve as application/xhtml+xml

13:24:15 <Steven> s/suffic/suffix/
13:24:37 <Steven> Ben: Is this the right thing to do?

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Unknown Ben: Is this the right thing to do?

13:24:48 <ShaneM> There is no W3C blessed file suffix.

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Unknown ShaneM: There is no W3C blessed file suffix.

13:26:06 <Zakim> -FabienG

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Zakim IRC Bot: -FabienG

13:27:06 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0001 test input without suffix

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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/testsuite/xhtml1-testcases/0001 test input without suffix

13:27:42 <Steven> That is being served as text/plain

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That is being served as text/plain

13:27:56 <Steven> Shane: using a suffix of .html is fine as I am concerned

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Unknown Shane: using a suffix of .html is fine as I am concerned

13:28:43 <Zakim> +FabienG

Zakim IRC Bot: +FabienG

13:28:53 <Steven> Mark: Why isn't content negotiation the right thing?

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Unknown Mark: Why isn't content negotiation the right thing?

13:29:18 <Steven> Steven: Because this solution ius better - it is being served to IE as application/xhtml+xml, and working

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Unknown Steven: Because this solution is better - it is being served to IE as application/xhtml+xml, and working

13:29:24 <Steven> s/ius/is/
13:29:49 <Steven> Ben: Let's treat this as a separate agenda item

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Unknown Ben: Let's treat this as a separate agenda item

13:30:16 <Steven> ... and discuss on the mailing list

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... and discuss on the mailing list

13:30:32 <Steven> Ben: I have to leave in 8 mins

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Unknown Ben: I have to leave in 8 mins

13:30:44 <Steven> ... most actions are mine

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... most actions are mine

13:31:05 <Steven> [NEW] ACTION: Ben to discuss Primer and Use Cases as Note, Syntax and Test Cases as REC, at SWD WG meeting [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]

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[NEW] ACTION: Ben to discuss Primer and Use Cases as Note, Syntax and Test Cases as REC, at SWD WG meeting [recorded in ACTION-14]">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-14]

13:31:39 <Steven> Ben: Ralph thinks that the primer needs to be rec track

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Unknown Ben: Ralph thinks that the primer needs to be rec track

13:31:41 <Steven> -- Done

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-- Done

13:31:53 <Steven> [NEW] ACTION: Ben to discuss RDFa Overview as a note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]

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[NEW] ACTION: Ben to discuss RDFa Overview as a note [recorded in ACTION-15]">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-15]

13:31:55 <Steven> -- DOne

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-- DOne

13:32:03 <Steven> [NEW] ACTION: Ben to email list about next week's vote on a resolution regarding CLASS and ROLE attributes and rdf:type. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action18]

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[NEW] ACTION: Ben to email list about next week's vote on a resolution regarding CLASS and ROLE attributes and rdf:type. [recorded in ACTION-18]">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-18]

13:32:07 <Steven> -- Done

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-- Done

13:32:17 <Steven> [NEW] ACTION: Ben to email the resolution on mime type to the mailing list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action20]

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[NEW] ACTION: Ben to email the resolution on mime type to the mailing list [recorded in ACTION-20]">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-20]

13:32:19 <Steven> -- Done

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-- Done

13:32:32 <Steven> [NEW] ACTION: Ben to flesh out the schedule and present for everyone's approval next week. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]

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[NEW] ACTION: Ben to flesh out the schedule and present for everyone's approval next week. [recorded in ACTION-17]">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-17]

13:32:39 <Steven> -- Continues

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-- Continues

13:32:46 <Steven> NEW] ACTION: Ben to hand over rdfa syntax baton to Steven on 4/23 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action16]

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NEW] ACTION: Ben to hand over rdfa syntax baton to Steven on 4/23 [recorded in ACTION-16]">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-16]

13:32:49 <Steven> -- Done

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-- Done

13:32:57 <Steven> [NEW] ACTION: MichaelH to do partitioning of TCs, freeze the XHTML1.1+RDFa, and invite implementors to comment. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]

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[NEW] ACTION: MichaelH to do partitioning of TCs, freeze the XHTML1.1+RDFa, and invite implementors to comment. [recorded in ACTION-13]">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-13]

13:33:00 <Steven> -- Continues

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-- Continues

13:33:12 <Steven> [PENDING] ACTION: Ben start a list of RDF/XML features that are not supported by RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action01]

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[PENDING] ACTION: Ben start a list of RDF/XML features that are not supported by RDFa [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#ACTION-01]

13:33:15 <Steven> -- Continues

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-- Continues

13:33:20 <EliasT> :-)

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Unknown EliasT: :-)

13:33:30 <Steven> [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04]

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[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in ACTION-04]">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-04]

13:33:32 <Steven> -- Done

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-- Continues

13:33:36 <EliasT> Zakim, please unmute me

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, please unmute me

13:33:36 <Zakim> EliasT should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: EliasT should no longer be muted

13:33:47 <Steven> s/Done/Continues/
13:33:49 <Steven> [PENDING] ACTION: Ben to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]

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[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved [recorded in ACTION-17]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-17]

13:33:54 <Steven> -- Continues

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13:34:04 <Steven> [PENDING] ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]

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[PENDING] ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in ACTION-10]">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-10]

13:34:08 <Steven> -- Continues

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13:34:18 <Steven> [PENDING] ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#action08]

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[PENDING] ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-08]

13:34:23 <Steven> -- Continues

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13:34:32 <Steven> [PENDING] ACTION: MarkB to work rdf:label back into RDFa syntax when using @content [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html#action25]

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[PENDING] ACTION: MarkB to work rdf:label back into RDFa syntax when using @content [recorded in ACTION-25]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-25]

13:34:34 <Steven> -- COntinues

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13:34:40 <Steven> s/CO/Co/
13:34:48 <Steven> [PENDING] ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]

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[PENDING] ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc. [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-01]

13:34:51 <Steven> -- Continues

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13:35:01 <Steven> [PENDING] ACTION: Wing add a property to the test case schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]

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[PENDING] ACTION: Wing add a property to the test case schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in ACTION-11]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-11]

13:35:04 <EliasT> Zakim, mute me

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Unknown EliasT: Zakim, mute me

13:35:05 <Zakim> EliasT should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: EliasT should now be muted

13:35:05 <Steven> -- Continues

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13:35:20 <Steven> Topic: src attribute

3. src attribute

13:35:37 <Steven> Ben: SHane, what is your opinion?

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Unknown Ben: SHane, what is your opinion?

13:35:48 <Steven> ... or are you looking for advice?

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... or are you looking for advice?

13:36:00 <Steven> S/SH/

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S/SH/

13:36:17 <Steven> s/ ane/ Shane/

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s/ ane/ Shane/ (warning: replacement failed)

13:36:34 <Zakim> -mhausenblas

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Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas

13:36:41 <Steven> Shane: Well, looking for group opinion

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Unknown Shane: Well, looking for group opinion

13:36:54 <Steven> Ben: One approach is to treat it like href

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Unknown Ben: One approach is to treat it like href

13:36:57 <Steven> q+

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q+

13:37:17 <Steven> Mark: The element name already gives some clue

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Unknown Mark: The element name already gives some clue

13:37:29 <Steven> ... so it is different from href

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... so it is different from href

13:38:03 <Steven> ... I have another proposal that I haven't yet written up about @cvlass being a predicate

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... I have another proposal that I haven't yet written up about @class being a predicate

13:38:11 <Steven> s/cvl/cl/
13:38:34 <Steven> Ben: The element type doesn't really work for me

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Unknown Ben: The element type doesn't really work for me

13:39:01 <Steven> Mark: The predicate may end up in the wrong place

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Unknown Mark: The predicate may end up in the wrong place

13:39:14 <Steven> ... (working this out on the fly)

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... (working this out on the fly)

13:39:32 <Steven> ... if you want foaf:depiction

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... if you want foaf:depiction

13:40:00 <EliasT> example please?

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Unknown EliasT: example please?

13:40:01 <Steven> Ben: I can see how you would use @class for a type on the image, and rel for the relationship with the document

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Unknown Ben: I can see how you would use @class for a type on the image, and rel for the relationship with the document

13:40:11 <Steven> q+

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q+

13:40:34 <Steven> Ben: Can you write this up this week?

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Unknown Ben: Can you write this up this week?

13:40:36 <Steven> Mark: Yes

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Unknown Mark: Yes

13:40:44 <benadida> ACTION: Mark to write up a consistent story on the @SRC attribute

ACTION: Mark to write up a consistent story on the @SRC attribute

13:41:13 <Steven> Steven: XHTML2 has src and href on the same element in some cases

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Unknown Steven: XHTML2 has src and href on the same element in some cases

13:41:19 <Steven> ... so we have to watch out

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... so we have to watch out

13:41:46 <Steven> Mark: Still we want to be able to use the src as a source of a URI

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Unknown Mark: Still we want to be able to use the src as a source of a URI

13:41:56 <Steven> Ben: I have to go

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Unknown Ben: I have to go

13:42:12 <Steven> ... you can discuss src and role if you want

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... you can discuss src and role if you want

13:42:18 <benadida> ACTION: Ben to schedule new telecon time starting May 7

ACTION: Ben to schedule new telecon time starting May 7

13:42:30 <FabienG> zakim, who is here?

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Unknown FabienG: zakim, who is here?

13:42:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ben_Adida, Steven, wing, ShaneM, Simone, Mark_Birbeck, EliasT (muted), FabienG

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Ben_Adida, Steven, wing, ShaneM, Simone, Mark_Birbeck, EliasT (muted), FabienG

13:42:32 <Steven> ... and will schedule a new teleconference time

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... and will schedule a new teleconference time

13:42:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see EliasT, Simone, markbirbeck, wing, benadida, mhausenblas, RRSAgent, Zakim, Steven, FabienG, ShaneM

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see EliasT, Simone, markbirbeck, wing, benadida, mhausenblas, RRSAgent, Zakim, Steven, FabienG, ShaneM

13:42:36 <Steven> q-

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q-

13:43:09 <Zakim> -ShaneM

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Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM

13:43:15 <Steven> Steven: I propose we do the rest of the discussion on email, so you Ben can be involved

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Unknown Steven: I propose we do the rest of the discussion on email, so you Ben can be involved

13:43:21 <Steven> Ben: OK, in that case, adjourn

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Unknown Ben: OK, in that case, adjourn

13:43:29 <Zakim> -Mark_Birbeck

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Mark_Birbeck

13:43:29 <Zakim> -Steven

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven

13:43:30 <Zakim> -FabienG

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Zakim IRC Bot: -FabienG

13:43:30 <Zakim> -Ben_Adida

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Ben_Adida

13:43:32 <Zakim> -wing

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Zakim IRC Bot: -wing

13:43:33 <Zakim> -EliasT

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Zakim IRC Bot: -EliasT

13:43:42 <Zakim> -Simone

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Zakim IRC Bot: -Simone

13:43:44 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has ended

13:43:45 <Zakim> Attendees were Ben_Adida, Steven, wing, +043316876aaaa, mhausenblas, ShaneM, Simone, Mark_Birbeck, FabienG, EliasT

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Ben_Adida, Steven, wing, +043316876aaaa, mhausenblas, ShaneM, Simone, Mark_Birbeck, FabienG, EliasT

13:43:50 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes

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rrsagent, make minutes

13:43:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-minutes.html Steven

13:50:40 <Steven> Michael, the syntax for a URI in the irc channel is:

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Michael, the syntax for a URI in the irc channel is:

13:50:47 <Steven> -> uri text text text

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-> uri text text text

13:51:00 <Steven> otherwise it vanishes in the minutes

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Scribe problem: the name 'Steven' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

otherwise it vanishes in the minutes

13:51:06 <Steven> damn

Scribe problem: the name 'Steven' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'Steven' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

damn

13:51:09 <Steven> he's gone

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Scribe problem: the name 'Steven' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

he's gone

14:03:23 <Steven> rrsagent, bye

Scribe problem: the name 'Steven' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

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rrsagent, bye

14:03:23 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-actions.rdf :

14:03:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Mark to write up a consistent story on the @SRC attribute [1]

ACTION: Mark to write up a consistent story on the @SRC attribute [1]

14:03:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-irc#T13-40-44

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-irc#T13-40-44

14:03:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Ben to schedule new telecon time starting May 7 [2]

ACTION: Ben to schedule new telecon time starting May 7 [2]

14:03:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-irc#T13-42-18

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/23-rdfa-irc#T13-42-18



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