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12:58:00 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-rdfa-irc
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12:58:12 <Steven> rssagent, make log public
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Unknown Steven: rssagent, make log public ←
12:58:22 <Steven> rrsagent, make log public
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Unknown Steven: rrsagent, make log public ←
12:58:30 <Steven> zakim, this will be rdfa
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Unknown Steven: zakim, this will be rdfa ←
12:58:30 <Zakim> ok, Steven; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; I see SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM scheduled to start in 2 minutes ←
12:58:45 <Steven> Meeting: Weekly RDFa Taskforce teleconference
12:58:48 <Steven> Chair: Ben
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12:58:53 <Steven> Regrets: Ralph
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12:59:30 <wing> zakim, code
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Unknown wing: zakim, code ←
12:59:30 <Zakim> I don't understand 'code', wing
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'code', wing ←
12:59:32 <wing> zakim, code?
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Unknown wing: zakim, code? ←
12:59:32 <Zakim> the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), wing
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 7332 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), wing ←
12:59:59 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has now started ←
13:00:06 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas ←
13:00:40 <Zakim> +[IBMCambridge]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IBMCambridge] ←
13:00:44 <wing> zakim, IBMCambridge is wing
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Unknown wing: zakim, IBMCambridge is wing ←
13:00:44 <Zakim> +wing; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +wing; got it ←
13:00:44 <markbirbeck> running a couple of minutes late....sorry
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Unknown markbirbeck: running a couple of minutes late....sorry ←
13:00:52 <markbirbeck> be there shortly
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Unknown markbirbeck: be there shortly ←
13:01:31 <Zakim> +McCarron
Zakim IRC Bot: +McCarron ←
13:02:05 <mhausenblas> zakim, who is on the call?
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Unknown mhausenblas: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:02:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see mhausenblas, wing, McCarron
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see mhausenblas, wing, McCarron ←
13:02:10 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:02:19 <Simone> Zakim, Ipcaller is me
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Unknown Simone: Zakim, Ipcaller is me ←
13:02:19 <Zakim> +Simone; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Simone; got it ←
13:02:59 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
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Unknown Steven: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
13:02:59 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made ←
13:03:01 <Zakim> +Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven ←
13:03:04 <Zakim> +Ben_Adida
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ben_Adida ←
13:03:59 <Zakim> -Ben_Adida
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Ben_Adida ←
13:04:46 <Zakim> -Simone
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Simone ←
13:05:42 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
13:05:52 <Simone> Zakim, P9 i ms
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Unknown Simone: Zakim, P9 i ms ←
13:05:52 <Zakim> I don't understand 'P9 i ms', Simone
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'P9 i ms', Simone ←
13:05:59 <Simone> Zakim, P9 is me
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Unknown Simone: Zakim, P9 is me ←
13:05:59 <Zakim> sorry, Simone, I do not recognize a party named 'P9'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Simone, I do not recognize a party named 'P9' ←
13:06:08 <Simone> Zakim, ??P9 is me
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Unknown Simone: Zakim, ??P9 is me ←
13:06:08 <Zakim> +Simone; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Simone; got it ←
13:07:09 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/
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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/ ←
13:08:49 <Zakim> +MarkB
Zakim IRC Bot: +MarkB ←
13:10:45 <Zakim> +Ben_Adida
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ben_Adida ←
13:11:08 <wing> elias should be along in a few minutes as well; he got stuck in traffic
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Unknown wing: elias should be along in a few minutes as well; he got stuck in traffic ←
13:11:18 <benadida> zakim, pick a victim
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Unknown benadida: zakim, pick a victim ←
13:11:18 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Simone
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Simone ←
13:11:39 <benadida> zakim, pick a victim
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Unknown benadida: zakim, pick a victim ←
13:11:39 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Steven ←
13:11:45 <Steven> Scribe: Steven
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(Scribe set to Unknown Steven)
13:12:23 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Apr/0037.html
13:13:19 <Steven> -> Previous minutes http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Apr/0015.html
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-> Previous minutes http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Apr/0015.html ←
13:13:21 <mhausenblas> -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa/XMLLiteral an inital step XMLLiteral
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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/RDFa/XMLLiteral an inital step XMLLiteral ←
13:13:39 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
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rrsagent, make minutes ←
13:13:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-rdfa-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-rdfa-minutes.html Steven ←
13:13:54 <Steven> Topic: Action items
13:14:19 <Steven> ACTION: Ben to add issue to issues list and start discussion with previous reference and issue reference [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/04/02-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
ACTION: Ben to add issue to issues list and start discussion with previous reference and issue reference [recorded in ACTION-12]">http://www.w3.org/2007/04/02-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-12] ←
13:14:24 <Steven> -- Done
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-- Pending ←
13:14:31 <Steven> s/Done/Pending/
13:14:44 <Steven> ACTION: Ben start a list of RDF/XML features that are not supported by RDFa [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#action01]
ACTION: Ben start a list of RDF/XML features that are not supported by RDFa [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2007/01/23-swd-minutes.html#ACTION-01] ←
13:14:51 <Steven> -- Pending
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-- Pending ←
13:15:00 <Steven> ACTION: Ben to include agenda item for approval of existing tests [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action02]
ACTION: Ben to include agenda item for approval of existing tests [recorded in ACTION-02]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-02] ←
13:15:02 <Steven> --Done
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-- Done ←
13:15:07 <Steven> s/--/-- /
13:15:16 <Steven> ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#action04]
ACTION: Ben to look into Science Commons use case [recorded in ACTION-04]">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/11-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-04] ←
13:15:25 <Steven> -- Pending
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-- Pending ←
13:15:37 <Steven> ACTION: Elias to look for cases where plain literal is more of a common use. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html#action24]
ACTION: Elias to look for cases where plain literal is more of a common use. [recorded in ACTION-24]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-24] ←
13:15:41 <Steven> -- Pending
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-- Pending ←
13:15:51 <Steven> ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#action10]
ACTION: Elias to send email to list with use case from IBM [recorded in ACTION-10]">http://www.w3.org/2006/12/04-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-10] ←
13:15:55 <Steven> -- Pending
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-- Pending ←
13:16:03 <Zakim> +??P15
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15 ←
13:16:04 <Zakim> -McCarron
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Zakim IRC Bot: -McCarron ←
13:16:05 <Steven> ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#action08]
ACTION: Mark produce more examples of applicability of n-ary relations from IPTC documents [recorded in ACTION-08]">http://www.w3.org/2006/10/23-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-08] ←
13:16:09 <Steven> -- Pending
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-- Pending ←
13:16:14 <ShaneM> zakim, ??P15 is ShaneM
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Unknown ShaneM: zakim, ??P15 is ShaneM ←
13:16:14 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM; got it ←
13:16:20 <Steven> ACTION: MarkB to work rdf:label back into RDFa syntax when using @content [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html#action25]
ACTION: MarkB to work rdf:label back into RDFa syntax when using @content [recorded in ACTION-25]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/19-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-25] ←
13:16:27 <Steven> -- Pending
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-- Pending ←
13:16:38 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#action01]
ACTION: Steven to put together sample XHTML2 doc with all mime type, etc. [recorded in ACTION-01]">http://www.w3.org/2006/09/19-htmltf-minutes.html#ACTION-01] ←
13:16:40 <Steven> -- Ongoing
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-- Ongoing ←
13:16:49 <Steven> ACTION: Wing add a property to the test case schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
ACTION: Wing add a property to the test case schema for tracking origin and approval of an individual test [recorded in ACTION-11]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/05-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-11] ←
13:17:07 <Steven> -- Pending
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-- Pending ←
13:17:20 <Steven> ACTION: Ben to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#action17]
ACTION: Ben to take a look at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2006Jun/0001.html to see if issue has been resolved [recorded in ACTION-17]">http://www.w3.org/2007/03/12-rdfa-minutes.html#ACTION-17] ←
13:17:31 <Steven> -- Ongoing
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-- Ongoing ←
13:18:14 <Steven> Topic: Test cases
13:18:37 <Steven> zakim, mute me
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zakim, mute me ←
13:18:37 <Zakim> Steven should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Steven should now be muted ←
13:18:53 <mhausenblas> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Apr/0013 RDFa TC status
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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Apr/0013 RDFa TC status ←
13:19:03 <Steven> Mh: Still need some time to finalize
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Unknown Mh: Still need some time to finalize ←
13:19:04 <mhausenblas> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Apr/0013 RDFa TC status
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Unknown mhausenblas: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2007Apr/0013 RDFa TC status ←
13:19:29 <Steven> ... happy for feedback
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... happy for feedback ←
13:19:40 <Steven> Ben: The partitioning is great
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Unknown Ben: The partitioning is great ←
13:19:55 <Steven> ... great to partition along host language types
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... great to partition along host language types ←
13:20:23 <Steven> ... might need a grid HTML4/XHTML 1.1/XHTML 2.0
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... might need a grid HTML4/XHTML 1.1/XHTML 2.0 ←
13:20:36 <Steven> ... and SVG might be another column in time
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... and SVG might be another column in time ←
13:21:15 <Steven> Shane: I think partitioning is great, I have an SGML DTD for HTML 4.01
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Unknown Shane: I think partitioning is great, I have an SGML DTD for HTML 4.01 ←
13:21:26 <Steven> Mh: Public available?
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Unknown Mh: Public available? ←
13:21:32 <Steven> Shane: For small values of public, sure
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Unknown Shane: For small values of public, sure ←
13:21:49 <ShaneM> html401+rdfa SGML DTD is at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/html401-rdfa-1.dtd
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Unknown ShaneM: html401+rdfa SGML DTD is at http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/html401-rdfa-1.dtd ←
13:22:56 <Steven> Ben: About conformance of existing implementations:
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Unknown Ben: About conformance of existing implementations: ←
13:23:03 <Steven> ... the bookmarklets are almost uptodate
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... the bookmarklets are almost uptodate ←
13:23:19 <Steven> ... Elias's parser is up-to-date
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... Elias's parser is not up-to-date ←
13:23:32 <Steven> s/is/is not/
13:23:57 <Steven> ... but we need to track which implementations are following the latest version
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... but we need to track which implementations are following the latest version ←
13:25:03 <Steven> Ben: Do we have an XSLY guru on the team?
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Unknown Ben: Do we have an XSLT guru on the team? ←
13:25:08 <Steven> s/Y/T/
13:25:35 <Steven> ... since we could update Fabian's XSLT version
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... since we could update Fabian's XSLT version ←
13:25:43 <Steven> Mh: I'd be happy to do it
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Unknown Mh: I'd be happy to do it ←
13:26:19 <Steven> Ben: I'm thrilled!
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Unknown Ben: I'm thrilled! ←
13:26:40 <Steven> ACTION Michael to update Fabian's XSLT
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ACTION Michael to update Fabian's XSLT ←
13:26:56 <Steven> ACTION: Michael to update Fabian's XSLT
ACTION: Michael to update Fabian's XSLT ←
13:27:00 <Steven> ack me
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ack me ←
13:27:21 <wing> zakim, wing holds wing, EliasT
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Unknown wing: zakim, wing holds wing, EliasT ←
13:27:24 <Zakim> +wing, EliasT; got it
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13:28:08 <EliasT> Topic: XMLLiteral
13:28:11 <Steven> Topic: XML Literal
13:28:53 <Steven> Ben: Do we agree with the hybrid solution
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Unknown Ben: Do we agree with the hybrid solution? ←
13:29:00 <Steven> s/tion/tion?/
13:29:36 <Steven> ... where mixed content gives XML Lieteral, otherwise a plain literal
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... where mixed content gives XML Literal, otherwise a plain literal ←
13:29:41 <Steven> ... with an attribute to override
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... with an attribute to override ←
13:29:50 <Steven> s/Liet/Lit/
13:30:22 <Steven> Mark: The hybrid isn't as good as I had originally thought
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Unknown Mark: The hybrid isn't as good as I had originally thought ←
13:30:33 <Steven> ... for instance the <table> example
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... for instance the <table> example ←
13:31:03 <mhausenblas> q+ to ask about the procedure
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Unknown mhausenblas: q+ to ask about the procedure ←
13:31:18 <Steven> Ben: This is the case with RDFa attribute on the <tr>, and you don't want the <td>s. Isn't the override then the solution?
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Unknown Ben: This is the case with RDFa attribute on the <tr>, and you don't want the <td>s. Isn't the override then the solution? ←
13:31:22 <Steven> Mark: Yes, could be
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Unknown Mark: Yes, could be ←
13:32:00 <Steven> Mark: The solution has to be consistent
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Unknown Mark: The solution has to be consistent ←
13:32:48 <Steven> Ben: I don't want to reopen the whole issue. I don't see what the problem is with your current example
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Unknown Ben: I don't want to reopen the whole issue. I don't see what the problem is with your current example ←
13:33:44 <Steven> <tr property="foaf:name"><td>Fred</td><td>Bloggs</td></tr>
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<tr property="foaf:name"><td>Fred</td><td>Bloggs</td></tr> ←
13:34:07 <Steven> Mark: I would like the markup to be preserved, but the query to work
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Unknown Mark: I would like the markup to be preserved, but the query to work ←
13:34:10 <EliasT> <> foaf:name "<td>Fred</td><td>Bloggs</td>"^^rdfs:XMLLiteral ?
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Unknown EliasT: <> foaf:name "<td>Fred</td><td>Bloggs</td>"^^rdfs:XMLLiteral ? ←
13:34:13 <Steven> zakim, mute me
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zakim, mute me ←
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13:34:34 <Steven> Ben: That's what the hybrid gives us
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Unknown Ben: That's what the hybrid gives us ←
13:35:06 <Steven> ... I don't get the problem
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... I don't get the problem ←
13:35:46 <Steven> Elias: I agree that you can write the SPARQL queries in a defensive manner
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Unknown Elias: I agree that you can write the SPARQL queries in a defensive manner ←
13:35:58 <Steven> ... I don't think it should be a driver for the design of RDFa
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... I don't think it should be a driver for the design of RDFa ←
13:36:19 <Steven> ... why is the snippet above useful to me?
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... why is the snippet above useful to me? ←
13:36:30 <mhausenblas> q?
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Unknown mhausenblas: q? ←
13:36:46 <Steven> Mark: Why is it not useful?
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Unknown Mark: Why is it not useful? ←
13:37:15 <Steven> Elias: I'm OK with that output
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Unknown Elias: I'm OK with that output ←
13:37:53 <ShaneM> zakim, mute me
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Unknown ShaneM: zakim, mute me ←
13:37:53 <Zakim> ShaneM should now be muted
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13:38:07 <Steven> ... I don't want to go in cirlces again
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... I don't want to go in circles again ←
13:38:24 <Steven> s/irlc/ircl/
13:38:26 <mhausenblas> ack me
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Unknown mhausenblas: ack me ←
13:38:26 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to ask about the procedure
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13:39:00 <Steven> Mh: I thought we were going to investigate APIs
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Unknown Mh: I thought we were going to investigate APIs ←
13:39:07 <Steven> ... I don't see the problem here.
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... I don't see the problem here. ←
13:39:45 <Steven> Ben: I agree with Mark that RDFa brings in a whole new world of semantic markup
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Unknown Ben: I agree with Mark that RDFa brings in a whole new world of semantic markup ←
13:40:22 <Steven> Elias: The question is about what should the default be. Plain, or XML literal.
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Unknown Elias: The question is about what should the default be. Plain, or XML literal. ←
13:40:38 <Steven> ... but the hybrid solution seems to make this question moot
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... but the hybrid solution seems to make this question moot ←
13:41:13 <Steven> Mark: My remaining issue is not with the markup but with the people writing the queries
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Unknown Mark: My remaining issue is not with the markup but with the people writing the queries ←
13:41:33 <Steven> q+
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q+ ←
13:42:24 <Steven> ... if we agree that defensive queries is the solution, then I am happy
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... if we agree that defensive queries is the solution, then I am happy ←
13:42:27 <Steven> ack me
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ack me ←
13:43:13 <EliasT> Ben, could you please write a PROPOSAL text so we can agree on that and have that on the minutes?
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Unknown EliasT: Ben, could you please write a PROPOSAL text so we can agree on that and have that on the minutes? ←
13:43:37 <Steven> PROPOSAL: Use the hybrid approach, and query defensivbely
PROPOSED: Use the hybrid approach, and query defensively ←
13:43:54 <EliasT> Steven, but I need more explicit text...
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Unknown EliasT: Steven, but I need more explicit text... ←
13:43:59 <EliasT> :-)
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Unknown EliasT: :-) ←
13:44:05 <ShaneM> It would be great if the Primer could capture an example of a defensive query
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Unknown ShaneM: It would be great if the Primer could capture an example of a defensive query ←
13:44:38 <benadida> PROPOSAL: we use a hybrid approach: no markup gives a plain literal by default, markup gives an XMLLiteral by default, and datatype can override it in either direction with shorthands.
PROPOSED: we use a hybrid approach: no markup gives a plain literal by default, markup gives an XMLLiteral by default, and datatype can override it in either direction with shorthands. ←
13:45:47 <EliasT> <> foaf:name "<td>Elias</td>"
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Unknown EliasT: <> foaf:name "<td>Elias</td>" ←
13:45:50 <Steven> s/vb/v/
13:45:56 <EliasT> <> foaf:name "Elias"^^rdfs:XMLLiteral
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Unknown EliasT: <> foaf:name "Elias"^^rdfs:XMLLiteral ←
13:46:04 <Steven> Ben: This is not our problem
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Unknown Ben: This is not our problem ←
13:46:30 <Steven> ... i.e. reserialising RDF triples as X/HTML
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... i.e. reserialising RDF triples as X/HTML ←
13:47:40 <benadida> PROPOSAL: we use a hybrid approach: no markup gives a plain literal by default, markup gives an XMLLiteral by default, and datatype can override it in either direction with shorthands. datatype=plain either explicit or by default strips the markup (in some way).
PROPOSED: we use a hybrid approach: no markup gives a plain literal by default, markup gives an XMLLiteral by default, and datatype can override it in either direction with shorthands. datatype=plain either explicit or by default strips the markup (in some way). ←
13:47:45 <Steven> Mark: We need to be explicit what happens when mixed content gets recorded as Plain
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Unknown Mark: We need to be explicit what happens when mixed content gets recorded as Plain ←
13:47:47 <ShaneM> I would like to see whatever the decision is reflected in the description of @datatype in the xhtml-rdfa draft.
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Unknown ShaneM: I would like to see whatever the decision is reflected in the description of @datatype in the xhtml-rdfa draft. ←
13:48:19 <ShaneM> if there are reserved values in the xhtml namespace for @datatype, we need to ocument those.
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Unknown ShaneM: if there are reserved values in the xhtml namespace for @datatype, we need todocument those. ←
13:48:36 <Steven> s/ oc/doc/
13:49:18 <Steven> Ben: We still need to resolve what happens when markup gets stripped
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Unknown Ben: We still need to resolve what happens when markup gets stripped ←
13:49:29 <benadida> PROPOSAL: we use a hybrid approach: no markup gives a plain literal by default, markup gives an XMLLiteral by default, and datatype can override it in either direction with shorthands. datatype?lain either explicit or by default strips the markup (in some way TBD).
PROPOSED: we use a hybrid approach: no markup gives a plain literal by default, markup gives an XMLLiteral by default, and datatype can override it in either direction with shorthands. datatype?lain either explicit or by default strips the markup (in some way TBD). ←
13:49:36 <Steven> Mark: I think we need all text nodes to be concatenated
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Unknown Mark: I think we need all text nodes to be concatenated ←
13:49:56 <EliasT> Second
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Unknown EliasT: Second ←
13:49:58 <mhausenblas> +1
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Unknown mhausenblas: +1 ←
13:50:01 <Simone> +1
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Unknown Simone: +1 ←
13:50:02 <wing> +1
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Unknown wing: +1 ←
13:50:14 <ShaneM> abstain
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Unknown ShaneM: abstain ←
13:50:22 <Steven> RESOLVED: we use a hybrid approach: no markup gives a plain literal by default, markup gives an XMLLiteral by default, and datatype can override it in either direction with shorthands. datatype?lain either explicit or by default strips the markup (in some way TBD).
RESOLVED: we use a hybrid approach: no markup gives a plain literal by default, markup gives an XMLLiteral by default, and datatype can override it in either direction with shorthands. datatype?lain either explicit or by default strips the markup (in some way TBD). ←
13:50:24 <ShaneM> zakim, unmute me
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Unknown ShaneM: zakim, unmute me ←
13:50:24 <Zakim> ShaneM should no longer be muted
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13:51:01 <benadida> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/28
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Unknown benadida: http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/28 ←
13:51:05 <Steven> Topic: Approval of raised issues
13:51:25 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/28
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http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/28 ←
13:51:31 <Steven> Ben: Opposed?
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Unknown Ben: Opposed? ←
13:51:34 <Steven> [none]
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[none] ←
13:51:44 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/29
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http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/29 ←
13:51:56 <EliasT> +1
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Unknown EliasT: +1 ←
13:52:00 <Steven> Ben: Opposed?
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Unknown Ben: Opposed? ←
13:52:03 <Steven> [None]
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[None] ←
13:52:10 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/34
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http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/34 ←
13:52:26 <Steven> Ben: href on all elements. Opposed?
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Unknown Ben: href on all elements. Opposed? ←
13:52:33 <Steven> [None]
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[None] ←
13:52:53 <Steven> ACTION: Ben to update issues list
ACTION: Ben to update issues list ←
13:53:26 <Steven> Topic: @src
13:53:26 <Zakim> -ShaneM
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13:53:48 <ShaneM> coming back.... arrgh
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Unknown ShaneM: coming back.... arrgh ←
13:53:56 <Steven> Ben: an earlier proposal had src representing subject
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Unknown Ben: an earlier proposal had src representing subject ←
13:54:01 <Zakim> +??P15
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15 ←
13:54:02 <Steven> ... we rejected this
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... we rejected this ←
13:54:11 <ShaneM> zakim, ??P15 is ShaneM
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Unknown ShaneM: zakim, ??P15 is ShaneM ←
13:54:11 <Zakim> +ShaneM; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM; got it ←
13:54:21 <Steven> ... as an object was another proposal
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... as an object was another proposal ←
13:54:43 <Steven> Mark: I sent a private email on this
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Unknown Mark: I sent a private email on this ←
13:55:03 <Steven> ... the reason src is different, is because the relationship to the document is obvious
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... the reason src is different, is because the relationship to the document is obvious ←
13:55:40 <Steven> q+
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q+ ←
13:56:57 <Steven> ack me
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ack me ←
13:57:24 <ShaneM> let's debate in e-mail?
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Unknown ShaneM: let's debate in e-mail? ←
13:57:31 <Steven> Ben: We have opened the discussion, we need to discuss it, and should debate in email
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Unknown Ben: We have opened the discussion, we need to discuss it, and should debate in email ←
13:57:39 <ShaneM> gotta run - on html call in 3 minutes
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Unknown ShaneM: gotta run - on html call in 3 minutes ←
13:57:44 <Steven> ... no resolution yet6
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... no resolution yet ←
13:57:47 <Steven> s/6/
13:57:55 <Steven> ADJOURN
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ADJOURN ←
13:58:01 <Steven> Meeting next week, Monday
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Meeting next week, Monday ←
13:58:53 <Zakim> -ShaneM
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Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←
14:00:18 <Zakim> -Steven
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14:00:19 <Zakim> -wing
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Zakim IRC Bot: -wing ←
14:00:20 <Zakim> -MarkB
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Zakim IRC Bot: -MarkB ←
14:00:22 <Zakim> -Simone
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Simone ←
14:00:24 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
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Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas ←
14:00:27 <Zakim> -Ben_Adida
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Ben_Adida ←
14:00:29 <Zakim> SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_SWD(RDFa)9:00AM has ended ←
14:00:31 <Zakim> Attendees were mhausenblas, McCarron, Simone, Steven, Ben_Adida, MarkB, ShaneM, wing, EliasT
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were mhausenblas, McCarron, Simone, Steven, Ben_Adida, MarkB, ShaneM, wing, EliasT ←
14:01:45 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
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Scribe problem: the name 'Steven' does not match any of the 3 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:01:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-rdfa-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/04/11-rdfa-minutes.html Steven ←
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