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14:59:38 <davidwood> Zakim, this will be RDF
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14:59:38 <Zakim> ok, davidwood, I see SW_RDFWG()11:00AM already started
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14:59:45 <davidwood> Chair: David Wood
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15:00:29 <davidwood> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.08.21#Admin
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15:00:51 <davidwood> Zakim, who is here
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15:00:56 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
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15:00:59 <davidwood> Zakim, who is here?
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15:01:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see bhyland1, pfps, +081165aabb, OpenLink_Software
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15:01:07 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
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15:01:07 <davidwood> Zakim, bhyland is me
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15:01:07 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
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15:01:30 <ivan> zakim, mute me
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15:02:11 <sandro> zakim, drop P13
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15:02:11 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I do not see a party named 'P13'
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15:02:14 <sandro> zakim, drop ??P13
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15:02:14 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: RDF WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/ -- Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.08.21
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15:02:14 <pfps> Topic: Administrivia
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15:03:42 <gkellogg> zakim, aadd is me
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15:03:48 <davidwood> Zakim, who is here?
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15:03:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see davidwood, pfps, TallTed (muted), Ivan (muted), Sandro, AndyS, yvesr, AZ, gkellogg
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15:03:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, AZ, gkellogg, AndyS, pfps, TallTed, ivan, manu, gavinc, davidwood, trackbot, yvesr, sandro, ericP
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15:04:46 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
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15:05:19 <pfps> scribenick: pfps
(Scribe set to Peter Patel-Schneider)
15:06:01 <Zakim> +gavinc
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15:06:22 <Zakim> +Souri
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15:06:36 <davidwood> PROPOSED: Accept the minutes of the 07 August telecon: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2013-08-07
PROPOSED: Accept the minutes of the 07 August telecon: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2013-08-07 ←
15:07:07 <pfps> david: accept minutes from last time
David Wood: accept minutes from last time ←
15:07:16 <davidwood> RESOLVED: Accept the minutes of the 07 August telecon: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2013-08-07
RESOLVED: Accept the minutes of the 07 August telecon: https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2013-08-07 ←
15:07:20 <pfps> david: no objections -> minutes acceptes
David Wood: no objections -> minutes acceptes ←
15:07:29 <davidwood> Review of action items
David Wood: Review of action items ←
15:07:29 <davidwood> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/pendingreview
David Wood: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/pendingreview ←
15:07:29 <davidwood> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/open
David Wood: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/actions/open ←
15:07:46 <AndyS> ACTION-282 is done
Andy Seaborne: ACTION-282 is done ←
15:07:51 <gavinc> I claim that EricP did ACTION-280
Gavin Carothers: I claim that EricP did ACTION-280 ←
15:08:34 <pfps> david: second editor for trig
David Wood: second editor for trig ←
15:08:53 <pfps> andy: I will if it helps
Andy Seaborne: I will if it helps ←
15:08:54 <davidwood> CLOSE ACTION-282
David Wood: CLOSE ACTION-282 ←
15:08:54 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-282.
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15:09:32 <davidwood> CLOSE ACTION-280
David Wood: CLOSE ACTION-280 ←
15:09:32 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-280.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-280. ←
15:09:43 <pfps> greg: so far 9 conforming Turtle implementation
Gregg Kellogg: so far 9 conforming Turtle implementation ←
15:09:46 <AndyS> Excellent news on the implementation reports.
Andy Seaborne: Excellent news on the implementation reports. ←
15:09:53 <pfps> david: primer still in progress
David Wood: primer still in progress ←
15:09:54 <gkellogg> s/greg/gkellogg/
15:10:51 <pfps> david: next meeting *next* week
David Wood: next meeting *next* week ←
15:12:16 <pfps> david: I won't be available next week
David Wood: I won't be available next week ←
15:12:27 <pfps> sandro: I can chair if needed
Sandro Hawke: I can chair if needed ←
15:12:59 <davidwood> Request for Review: ITS 2.0
David Wood: Request for Review: ITS 2.0 ←
15:12:59 <davidwood>
15:12:59 <davidwood> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0000.html
David Wood: See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0000.html ←
15:12:59 <davidwood>
15:13:01 <pfps> topic: request for review of ITS 2.0
15:13:15 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:13:59 <pfps> david: they want some some review from us re converting markup into RDF
David Wood: they want some some review from us re converting markup into RDF ←
15:14:34 <gavinc> Section in question, http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#conversion-to-nif
Gavin Carothers: Section in question, http://www.w3.org/TR/its20/#conversion-to-nif ←
15:14:47 <pfps> david: I'm not sure what we would say except "hurray" and check to see if they have done anything bad
David Wood: I'm not sure what we would say except "hurray" and check to see if they have done anything bad ←
15:14:59 <ivan> I am happy to say hurray
Ivan Herman: I am happy to say hurray ←
15:15:14 <ivan> ack ivan
Ivan Herman: ack ivan ←
15:15:30 <pfps> ivan: I can take a look at the document
Ivan Herman: I can take a look at the document ←
15:16:05 <pfps> action: ivan review ITS 2.0 document
ACTION: ivan review ITS 2.0 document ←
15:16:05 <trackbot> 'ivan' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., ivan, imikhail).
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15:17:27 <davidwood> Topic: JSON-LD
15:17:37 <ivan> zakim, mute me
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15:17:37 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
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15:17:40 <davidwood> PROPOSED to publish JSON-LD as CR: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0060.html
David Wood: PROPOSED to publish JSON-LD as CR: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0060.html ←
15:18:03 <Zakim> +EricP
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15:18:10 <pfps> sandro: we need to agree on exit criteria
Sandro Hawke: we need to agree on exit criteria ←
15:18:11 <AndyS> q+ to ask about testing (minor, clarification)
Andy Seaborne: q+ to ask about testing (minor, clarification) ←
15:18:34 <gkellogg> q+
Gregg Kellogg: q+ ←
15:18:40 <davidwood> ack AndyS
David Wood: ack AndyS ←
15:18:40 <Zakim> AndyS, you wanted to ask about testing (minor, clarification)
Zakim IRC Bot: AndyS, you wanted to ask about testing (minor, clarification) ←
15:18:41 <pfps> sandro: the standard criteria should be acceptable, but there should be a resolution
Sandro Hawke: the standard criteria should be acceptable, but there should be a resolution ←
15:18:42 <Zakim> +??P20
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15:18:51 <lanthaler> zakim, ??P20 is me
Markus Lanthaler: zakim, ??P20 is me ←
15:18:51 <Zakim> +lanthaler; got it
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15:19:11 <markus> zakim, ??P20 is me
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15:19:11 <Zakim> I already had ??P20 as lanthaler, markus
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15:19:21 <pfps> andy: for the RDF tests, isomorphism appears to be the right standard
Andy Seaborne: for the RDF tests, isomorphism appears to be the right standard ←
15:19:28 <davidwood> ack gkellogg
David Wood: ack gkellogg ←
15:19:40 <pfps> gregg: this was discussed yesterday
Gregg Kellogg: this was discussed yesterday ←
15:20:06 <pfps> gregg: for testing to-RDF isomorphism is OK, but the output is n-quads
Gregg Kellogg: for testing to-RDF isomorphism is OK, but the output is n-quads ←
15:20:13 <gkellogg> http://json-ld.org/test-suite/reports/
Gregg Kellogg: http://json-ld.org/test-suite/reports/ ←
15:20:24 <pfps> andy: so n-quads isomorphism is what to use
Andy Seaborne: so n-quads isomorphism is what to use ←
15:20:38 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
15:20:43 <pfps> gregg: here is an EARLy report
Gregg Kellogg: here is an EARLy report ←
15:21:07 <ivan> q-
Ivan Herman: q- ←
15:21:14 <pfps> gregg: pretty broad conformance over six implementations
Gregg Kellogg: pretty broad conformance over six implementations ←
15:21:32 <gavinc> +q to ask if 3 of those aren't translations of the same implementation?
Gavin Carothers: +q to ask if 3 of those aren't translations of the same implementation? ←
15:21:46 <davidwood> ack gavinc
David Wood: ack gavinc ←
15:21:46 <Zakim> gavinc, you wanted to ask if 3 of those aren't translations of the same implementation?
Zakim IRC Bot: gavinc, you wanted to ask if 3 of those aren't translations of the same implementation? ←
15:21:52 <pfps> gregg: this indicates that CR exit critera have already been met, but there are other groups that may be waiting for CR to actually to the testing
Gregg Kellogg: this indicates that CR exit critera have already been met, but there are other groups that may be waiting for CR to actually to the testing ←
15:22:20 <markus> I think on yesterday's call we agreed on a minimum CR duration of 2 weeks
Markus Lanthaler: I think on yesterday's call we agreed on a minimum CR duration of 2 weeks ←
15:22:30 <pfps> gavin: are three of the implementations machine translations?
Gavin Carothers: are three of the implementations machine translations? ←
15:22:46 <pfps> gregg: no, they are separate, but the Javascript one is the primary
Gregg Kellogg: no, they are separate, but the Javascript one is the primary ←
15:23:59 <davidwood> q?
David Wood: q? ←
15:23:59 <pfps> david: sandro can you craft a proposal for exit criteria?
David Wood: sandro can you craft a proposal for exit criteria? ←
15:24:38 <pfps> gregg: the tests are all via the API
Gregg Kellogg: the tests are all via the API ←
15:25:06 <Zakim> -EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: -EricP ←
15:25:27 <pfps> sandro: are any of the proposed tests contential
Sandro Hawke: are any of the proposed tests contential ←
15:25:49 <pfps> gregg: to RDF-100 had some discussion yesterday because it was generating relative-IRIs
Gregg Kellogg: to RDF-100 had some discussion yesterday because it was generating relative-IRIs ←
15:26:07 <gavinc> +q to ask about dataset tests
Gavin Carothers: +q to ask about dataset tests ←
15:26:11 <pfps> gregg: we dropped it so that the results are all legal generalized RDF
Gregg Kellogg: we dropped it so that the results are all legal generalized RDF ←
15:26:36 <davidwood> ack gavinc
David Wood: ack gavinc ←
15:26:36 <Zakim> gavinc, you wanted to ask about dataset tests
Zakim IRC Bot: gavinc, you wanted to ask about dataset tests ←
15:27:30 <pfps> gavin: are there tests around datasets that contain more than one graph? the bugs I've in seen in are in this area
Gavin Carothers: are there tests around datasets that contain more than one graph? the bugs I've in seen in are in this area ←
15:27:38 <Zakim> +EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: +EricP ←
15:28:08 <pfps> gregg: I don't know - we will be discussing this next week on the JSON-LD call
Gregg Kellogg: I don't know - we will be discussing this next week on the JSON-LD call ←
15:28:33 <AndyS> Don't need test suite to go to CR.
Andy Seaborne: Don't need test suite to go to CR. ←
15:28:47 <pfps> gavin: how can we approve exit criteria without a full set of tests?
Gavin Carothers: how can we approve exit criteria without a full set of tests? ←
15:29:08 <sandro> PROPOSED: The Exit Critera for JSON-LD shall be that at least two implementations pass each approved test in the test suite. We approve the tests as they stands today, but intend to add more. We may also make corrections if bugs are found. The test are all on JSON-LD-API but we consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents.
PROPOSED: The Exit Critera for JSON-LD shall be that at least two implementations pass each approved test in the test suite. We approve the tests as they stands today, but intend to add more. We may also make corrections if bugs are found. The test are all on JSON-LD-API but we consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents. ←
15:30:23 <sandro> gregg: we need more tests. we only have only one test on error condititions.
Gregg Kellogg: we need more tests. we only have only one test on error condititions. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:30:24 <gavinc> We DO need more tests. There are no tests for datasets, only single named graphs
Gavin Carothers: We DO need more tests. There are no tests for datasets, only single named graphs ←
15:30:48 <markus> q+
Markus Lanthaler: q+ ←
15:30:49 <pfps> gregg: more tests are needed, e.g., test variations on native types, dataset tests
Gregg Kellogg: more tests are needed, e.g., test variations on native types, dataset tests ←
15:31:01 <pfps> gregg: should we approve the current tests?
Gregg Kellogg: should we approve the current tests? ←
15:31:12 <pfps> sandro: let's approve now and add later
Sandro Hawke: let's approve now and add later ←
15:31:37 <pfps> sandro: there are about two weeks before CR can be announced, so the tests should be finalized by then
Sandro Hawke: there are about two weeks before CR can be announced, so the tests should be finalized by then ←
15:31:39 <ericP> of course you never know when a test suite is *really* done
Eric Prud'hommeaux: of course you never know when a test suite is *really* done ←
15:32:02 <pfps> david: do we need one resolution or two?
David Wood: do we need one resolution or two? ←
15:32:11 <davidwood> ack markus
David Wood: ack markus ←
15:32:12 <pfps> sandro: either
Sandro Hawke: either ←
15:32:22 <markus> The exit criteria I put in the spec is: "Before this specification exits Candidate Recommendation, two or more independent implementations must pass each test, although no single implementation must pass each test. The working group will decide when the test suite is of sufficient quality to test interoperability and will produce an implementation report (hosted together with the test suite)."
Markus Lanthaler: The exit criteria I put in the spec is: "Before this specification exits Candidate Recommendation, two or more independent implementations must pass each test, although no single implementation must pass each test. The working group will decide when the test suite is of sufficient quality to test interoperability and will produce an implementation report (hosted together with the test suite)." ←
15:32:33 <pfps> markus: are we trying to define the exit criteria
Markus Lanthaler: are we trying to define the exit criteria ←
15:32:49 <pfps> sandro: yes
Sandro Hawke: yes ←
15:32:56 <Zakim> -EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: -EricP ←
15:33:07 <pfps> sandro: the exit criteria usually go in the transition request, not the document
Sandro Hawke: the exit criteria usually go in the transition request, not the document ←
15:33:33 <pfps> david: let's resolve on the wording from the document
David Wood: let's resolve on the wording from the document ←
15:33:45 <sandro> PROPOSED: (as in spec draft) Before this specification exits Candidate Recommendation, two or more independent implementations must pass each test, although no single implementation must pass each test. The working group will decide when the test suite is of sufficient quality to test interoperability and will produce an implementation report (hosted together with the test suite).
PROPOSED: (as in spec draft) Before this specification exits Candidate Recommendation, two or more independent implementations must pass each test, although no single implementation must pass each test. The working group will decide when the test suite is of sufficient quality to test interoperability and will produce an implementation report (hosted together with the test suite). ←
15:33:49 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
15:33:52 <markus> +1
Markus Lanthaler: +1 ←
15:33:55 <davidwood> +1
David Wood: +1 ←
15:33:55 <gkellogg> +1
Gregg Kellogg: +1 ←
15:33:57 <pfps> +1
+1 ←
15:33:59 <yvesr> +1
Yves Raimond: +1 ←
15:34:03 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
15:34:05 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
15:34:06 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:34:09 <AZ_> +1
Antoine Zimmermann: +1 ←
15:34:12 <gavinc> +1
Gavin Carothers: +1 ←
15:34:16 <Souri> +1
Souripriya Das: +1 ←
15:34:35 <pfps> zakim, who is talking?
zakim, who is talking? ←
15:34:41 <sandro> RESOLVED: (as in spec draft) Before this specification exits Candidate Recommendation, two or more independent implementations must pass each test, although no single implementation must pass each test. The working group will decide when the test suite is of sufficient quality to test interoperability and will produce an implementation report (hosted together with the test suite).
RESOLVED: (as in spec draft) Before this specification exits Candidate Recommendation, two or more independent implementations must pass each test, although no single implementation must pass each test. The working group will decide when the test suite is of sufficient quality to test interoperability and will produce an implementation report (hosted together with the test suite). ←
15:34:46 <Zakim> pfps, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: davidwood (53%), AndyS (19%), Sandro (15%)
Zakim IRC Bot: pfps, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: davidwood (53%), AndyS (19%), Sandro (15%) ←
15:35:30 <gkellogg> JSON-LD 1.0 Processing Algorithms and API
Gregg Kellogg: JSON-LD 1.0 Processing Algorithms and API ←
15:35:38 <davidwood> PROPOSED: Publish both JSON-LD 1.0 and JSON-LD 1.0 Processing Algorithms and API as CR.
PROPOSED: Publish both JSON-LD 1.0 and JSON-LD 1.0 Processing Algorithms and API as CR. ←
15:35:49 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:35:49 <gkellogg> +1
Gregg Kellogg: +1 ←
15:35:51 <markus> +1
Markus Lanthaler: +1 ←
15:35:52 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
15:35:52 <gavinc> +1
Gavin Carothers: +1 ←
15:35:55 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
15:35:56 <davidwood> +1
David Wood: +1 ←
15:36:00 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
15:36:04 <Souri> +1
Souripriya Das: +1 ←
15:36:05 <AZ_> +1
Antoine Zimmermann: +1 ←
15:36:23 <yvesr> +1
Yves Raimond: +1 ←
15:36:27 <davidwood> RESOLVED: Publish both JSON-LD 1.0 and JSON-LD 1.0 Processing Algorithms and API as CR.
RESOLVED: Publish both JSON-LD 1.0 and JSON-LD 1.0 Processing Algorithms and API as CR. ←
15:36:25 <sandro> PROPOSED: The tests are all on JSON-LD-API but we consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents.
PROPOSED: The tests are all on JSON-LD-API but we consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents. ←
15:36:50 <pfps> sandro: there should be some comment that the JSON-LD tests cover both documents
Sandro Hawke: there should be some comment that the JSON-LD tests cover both documents ←
15:36:58 <davidwood> PROPOSED: The test are all on JSON-LD-API but we consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents.
PROPOSED: The test are all on JSON-LD-API but we consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents. ←
15:37:02 <sandro> gregg: Implementing all the processing algorithms effectively tests all the normative requirements of the JSON-LD documents.
Gregg Kellogg: Implementing all the processing algorithms effectively tests all the normative requirements of the JSON-LD documents. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:37:04 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
15:37:35 <sandro> PROPOSED: The test are all on JSON-LD Processing Algorithms, but we consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents in their entirety.
PROPOSED: The test are all on JSON-LD Processing Algorithms, but we consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents in their entirety. ←
15:37:37 <pfps> +1
+1 ←
15:37:41 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
15:37:41 <gkellogg> +1
Gregg Kellogg: +1 ←
15:37:43 <davidwood> +1
David Wood: +1 ←
15:37:43 <markus> +1
Markus Lanthaler: +1 ←
15:38:05 <gavinc> +1
Gavin Carothers: +1 ←
15:38:18 <pfps> sandro: are there actual API tests?
Sandro Hawke: are there actual API tests? ←
15:38:24 <pfps> gregg: yes
Gregg Kellogg: yes ←
15:38:43 <sandro> gregg: We should be careful that the API tests are in the report, since they aren't in the EARL.
Gregg Kellogg: We should be careful that the API tests are in the report, since they aren't in the EARL. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:39:11 <sandro> gregg: That part is intended for JS impls, but my (Ruby) one doesn't do the API with Promises.
Gregg Kellogg: That part is intended for JS impls, but my (Ruby) one doesn't do the API with Promises. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:39:27 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:39:28 <Souri> +1
Souripriya Das: +1 ←
15:39:33 <pfps> david: I don't see any issues here
David Wood: I don't see any issues here ←
15:39:34 <davidwood> RESOLVED: The test are all on JSON-LD Processing Algorithms, but we consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents in their entirety.
RESOLVED: The test are all on JSON-LD Processing Algorithms, but we consider them to cover both JSON-LD documents in their entirety. ←
15:39:34 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
15:39:35 <gkellogg> Need to make sure IDL tests are included with the test manifests and in the EARL report
Gregg Kellogg: Need to make sure IDL tests are included with the test manifests and in the EARL report ←
15:40:04 <pfps> markus: how long for CR?
Markus Lanthaler: how long for CR? ←
15:40:46 <pfps> sandro: let's just ask for a short time and end whenever
Sandro Hawke: let's just ask for a short time and end whenever ←
15:41:01 <pfps> markus: we were thinking of two weeks and extend if necessary
Markus Lanthaler: we were thinking of two weeks and extend if necessary ←
15:41:10 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
15:41:22 <pfps> sandro: two weeks seems a little short - three weeks might be more normal
Sandro Hawke: two weeks seems a little short - three weeks might be more normal ←
15:41:35 <pfps> sandro: two weeks might raise some flage
Sandro Hawke: two weeks might raise some flage ←
15:41:38 <pfps> markus: ok
Markus Lanthaler: ok ←
15:42:16 <pfps> andy: groups that are waiting for start of CR might want longer
Andy Seaborne: groups that are waiting for start of CR might want longer ←
15:43:10 <davidwood> From http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#transition-reqs : "The Working Group is not required to show that a technical report has two independent and interoperable implementations as part of a request to the Director to announce a Call for Implementations. However, the Working Group should include a report of present and expected implementations as part of the request."
David Wood: From http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#transition-reqs : "The Working Group is not required to show that a technical report has two independent and interoperable implementations as part of a request to the Director to announce a Call for Implementations. However, the Working Group should include a report of present and expected implementations as part of the request." ←
15:43:19 <pfps> markus: we might send out an informal communication to get these people to start
Markus Lanthaler: we might send out an informal communication to get these people to start ←
15:43:28 <gavinc> "must specify the deadline for comments, which must be at least four weeks after publication, and should be longer for complex documents."
Gavin Carothers: "must specify the deadline for comments, which must be at least four weeks after publication, and should be longer for complex documents." ←
15:44:43 <pfps> david: minimal duration of implementation period is required
David Wood: minimal duration of implementation period is required ←
15:44:56 <pfps> sandro: should be at least three weeks
Sandro Hawke: should be at least three weeks ←
15:44:57 <davidwood> "The announcement must indicate a minimal duration, before which the Working Group must not request ahttp://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#cfr; this minimal duration is designed to allow time for comment."
David Wood: "The announcement must indicate a minimal duration, before which the Working Group must not request ahttp://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#cfr; this minimal duration is designed to allow time for comment." ←
15:45:07 <davidwood> There is no definition of minimal.
David Wood: There is no definition of minimal. ←
15:45:13 <gavinc> yep, and the newest draft process document https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/AB/raw-file/default/tr.html does define, and that's 4 weeks
Gavin Carothers: yep, and the newest draft process document https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/AB/raw-file/default/tr.html does define, and that's 4 weeks ←
15:45:27 <markus> gavinc, that's not CR
Markus Lanthaler: gavinc, that's not CR ←
15:45:33 <pfps> david: let's try for three
David Wood: let's try for three ←
15:45:52 <gavinc> markus nope, since CR is gone :D
Gavin Carothers: markus nope, since CR is gone :D ←
15:46:06 <pfps> sandro: resolving on three weeks would be helpful
Sandro Hawke: resolving on three weeks would be helpful ←
15:46:29 <markus> gavinc, oh sorry, didn't realize you pasted a different link
Markus Lanthaler: gavinc, oh sorry, didn't realize you pasted a different link ←
15:46:40 <davidwood> PROPOSED: The WG will request a duration of three (3) weeks for the JSON-LD implemention period.
PROPOSED: The WG will request a duration of three (3) weeks for the JSON-LD implemention period. ←
15:46:46 <gkellogg> +1
Gregg Kellogg: +1 ←
15:46:48 <davidwood> +1
David Wood: +1 ←
15:46:50 <yvesr> +1
Yves Raimond: +1 ←
15:46:57 <gavinc> +1
Gavin Carothers: +1 ←
15:47:00 <pfps> pfps: +1
15:47:00 <markus> +1
Markus Lanthaler: +1 ←
15:47:05 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
15:47:13 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
15:48:28 <davidwood> RESOLVED: The WG will request a duration of three (3) weeks for the JSON-LD implementation period.
RESOLVED: The WG will request a duration of three (3) weeks for the JSON-LD implementation period. ←
15:48:33 <pfps> sandro: we may be able to publish the documents on the day that the CR request is approved
Sandro Hawke: we may be able to publish the documents on the day that the CR request is approved ←
15:48:55 <Souri> +1
Souripriya Das: +1 ←
15:49:13 <davidwood> Topic: TriG / N-Triples / N-Quads
15:49:50 <pfps> david: progress in TriG document
David Wood: progress in TriG document ←
15:50:04 <pfps> david: please accept Andy's help
David Wood: please accept Andy's help ←
15:50:13 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
15:50:13 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made ←
15:50:14 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
15:50:20 <pfps> david: Andy will join Gavin as the second editor of the TriG document
David Wood: Andy will join Gavin as the second editor of the TriG document ←
15:51:25 <pfps> gavin: the end result for TriG is that two things need to be added - optional "graph" and {}
Gavin Carothers: the end result for TriG is that two things need to be added - optional "graph" and {} ←
15:51:28 <gkellogg> q+
Gregg Kellogg: q+ ←
15:51:45 <pfps> gavin: there were a number of other grammars for other things
Gavin Carothers: there were a number of other grammars for other things ←
15:51:46 <ivan> zakim, mute me
Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me ←
15:51:46 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted ←
15:51:48 <davidwood> ack gkellogg
David Wood: ack gkellogg ←
15:52:36 <pfps> gregg: allowing a blank node as a graph name was an issue - what syntax is allowed - easiest is blank node label
Gregg Kellogg: allowing a blank node as a graph name was an issue - what syntax is allowed - easiest is blank node label ←
15:52:53 <pfps> andy: either labelled or []
Andy Seaborne: either labelled or [] ←
15:53:05 <pfps> gavin: a bit strange
Gavin Carothers: a bit strange ←
15:53:19 <pfps> andy: yes, a corner case, but graphs can be discovered
Andy Seaborne: yes, a corner case, but graphs can be discovered ←
15:54:02 <pfps> andy: graph name syntax has to be just for a blank node - nothing else
Andy Seaborne: graph name syntax has to be just for a blank node - nothing else ←
15:54:33 <pfps> gavin: I'll put together the result into the document
Gavin Carothers: I'll put together the result into the document ←
15:54:50 <davidwood> The editors will record this corner case in the document.
David Wood: The editors will record this corner case in the document. ←
15:54:51 <sandro> editors will include [ ] for blank node graph labels
Sandro Hawke: editors will include [ ] for blank node graph labels ←
15:55:00 <pfps> gavin: that covers everything I can think of
Gavin Carothers: that covers everything I can think of ←
15:55:01 <Zakim> +EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: +EricP ←
15:55:07 <pfps> david: N-TRIPLES
David Wood: N-TRIPLES ←
15:55:17 <davidwood> PROPOSED: Publish N-Triples as LCWD
PROPOSED: Publish N-Triples as LCWD ←
15:55:58 <davidwood> q?
David Wood: q? ←
15:56:39 <pfps> gavin: comment from Andy re whitespace as a token, the situation has gone back and forth
Gavin Carothers: comment from Andy re whitespace as a token, the situation has gone back and forth ←
15:57:22 <AndyS> <s><p><o>. is legal TTL but not NT. Some may find it odd.
Andy Seaborne: <s><p><o>. is legal TTL but not NT. Some may find it odd. ←
15:57:30 <pfps> andy: want the two to be the same
Andy Seaborne: want the two to be the same ←
15:57:46 <AndyS> <s> <p> <o> . needed in NT.
Andy Seaborne: <s> <p> <o> . needed in NT. ←
15:57:47 <pfps> gavin: can't allow NL in the middle of triples
Gavin Carothers: can't allow NL in the middle of triples ←
15:58:01 <pfps> david: date in document is next week
David Wood: date in document is next week ←
15:58:07 <pfps> gavin: that can be changed easily
Gavin Carothers: that can be changed easily ←
15:58:25 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
15:58:29 <gkellogg> +1
Gregg Kellogg: +1 ←
15:58:29 <davidwood> +1
David Wood: +1 ←
15:58:30 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
15:58:31 <gavinc> +1
Gavin Carothers: +1 ←
15:58:32 <AndyS> go for it
Andy Seaborne: go for it ←
15:58:34 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
15:58:42 <Souri> +1
Souripriya Das: +1 ←
15:58:45 <markus> +1
Markus Lanthaler: +1 ←
15:58:53 <yvesr> +1
Yves Raimond: +1 ←
15:58:53 <sandro> +1
Sandro Hawke: +1 ←
15:58:54 <AZ_> +1
Antoine Zimmermann: +1 ←
15:59:06 <davidwood> RESOLVED: Publish N-Triples as LCWD.
RESOLVED: Publish N-Triples as LCWD. ←
15:59:56 <pfps> david: try for LC of N-Quads next week
David Wood: try for LC of N-Quads next week ←
16:00:04 <pfps> topic: semantics and concepts
16:00:36 <davidwood> ISSUE-140?
16:00:36 <trackbot> ISSUE-140 -- RDF Dataset Comparison (Ivan Herman) -- open
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-140 -- RDF Dataset Comparison (Ivan Herman) -- open ←
16:00:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/140
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/140 ←
16:01:51 <pfps> andy: also need to consider blank nodes shared between the graphs - need to move the isomorphism to the outside
Andy Seaborne: also need to consider blank nodes shared between the graphs - need to move the isomorphism to the outside ←
16:01:52 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
16:02:26 <pfps> andy: graph isomorphism is OK, just need to fix this one
Andy Seaborne: graph isomorphism is OK, just need to fix this one ←
16:02:49 <ivan> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0022.html Pat's definition
Ivan Herman: -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0022.html Pat's definition ←
16:03:59 <pfps> andy: this message has the right change
Andy Seaborne: this message has the right change ←
16:04:06 <AZ_> +1 to Pat's definition
Antoine Zimmermann: +1 to Pat's definition ←
16:04:46 <Zakim> -Souri
Zakim IRC Bot: -Souri ←
16:04:51 <pfps> david: let's accept Pat's definition
David Wood: let's accept Pat's definition ←
16:05:18 <ivan> q-
Ivan Herman: q- ←
16:05:21 <Zakim> -EricP
Zakim IRC Bot: -EricP ←
16:05:28 <pfps> pfps: looks good to me
Peter Patel-Schneider: looks good to me ←
16:05:31 <ivan> zakim unmute me
Ivan Herman: zakim unmute me ←
16:05:37 <ivan> zakim, unmute me
Ivan Herman: zakim, unmute me ←
16:05:37 <Zakim> Ivan should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should no longer be muted ←
16:06:49 <davidwood> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-140 by accepting Pat's suggested change documented in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0022.html
PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-140 by accepting Pat's suggested change documented in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0022.html ←
16:06:53 <pfps> +1
+1 ←
16:07:02 <AZ_> +1
Antoine Zimmermann: +1 ←
16:07:04 <gavinc> +1
Gavin Carothers: +1 ←
16:07:05 <AndyS> +1
Andy Seaborne: +1 ←
16:07:12 <davidwood> +1
David Wood: +1 ←
16:07:17 <ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
16:07:17 <gkellogg> +1
Gregg Kellogg: +1 ←
16:07:24 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
16:07:38 <yvesr> +1
Yves Raimond: +1 ←
16:07:56 <markus> +1
Markus Lanthaler: +1 ←
16:08:22 <davidwood> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-140 by accepting Pat's suggested change documented in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0022.html
RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-140 by accepting Pat's suggested change documented in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-wg/2013Aug/0022.html ←
16:09:08 <gavinc> Grad students!
Gavin Carothers: Grad students! ←
16:09:57 <davidwood> ACTION: davidwood to apply the resolution to ISSUE-140 in Concepts
ACTION: davidwood to apply the resolution to ISSUE-140 in Concepts ←
16:09:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-283 - Apply the resolution to issue-140 in concepts [on David Wood - due 2013-08-28].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-283 - Apply the resolution to ISSUE-140 in concepts [on David Wood - due 2013-08-28]. ←
16:10:13 <ivan> zakim, mute me
Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me ←
16:10:13 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted ←
16:10:18 <pfps> david: comments from Jeremy ...
David Wood: comments from Jeremy ... ←
16:10:31 <davidwood> Comments Jeremy Carroll
David Wood: Comments Jeremy Carroll ←
16:10:31 <davidwood> rdfs-Graph ? comment and Issue 35: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-comments/2013Jul/0021.html
David Wood: rdfs-Graph ? comment and ISSUE-35: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-comments/2013Jul/0021.html ←
16:10:31 <davidwood> owl-imports, graph names and Issue 38: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-comments/2013Jul/0022.html
David Wood: owl-imports, graph names and ISSUE-38: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-comments/2013Jul/0022.html ←
16:10:31 <davidwood> Turn into issues
David Wood: Turn into issues ←
16:11:46 <davidwood> ISSUE-35?
16:11:46 <trackbot> ISSUE-35 -- Should there be an rdf:Graph construct, or something like that? -- closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-35 -- Should there be an rdf:Graph construct, or something like that? -- closed ←
16:11:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/35
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/track/issues/35 ←
16:12:26 <pfps> andy: I think that the modeling in his example is somewhat dubious
Andy Seaborne: I think that the modeling in his example is somewhat dubious ←
16:12:36 <pfps> david: is there a resolution on ISSUE-35?
David Wood: is there a resolution on ISSUE-35? ←
16:13:37 <pfps> pfps: I'm unsure just what Jeremy wants
Peter Patel-Schneider: I'm unsure just what Jeremy wants ←
16:13:55 <pfps> david: there is nothing prohibiting making graph names denote graphs
David Wood: there is nothing prohibiting making graph names denote graphs ←
16:14:22 <ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
16:14:30 <pfps> pfps: Jeremy wants there to be a way to require graph names denoting graphs
Peter Patel-Schneider: Jeremy wants there to be a way to require graph names denoting graphs ←
16:14:47 <pfps> david: that proposal has been before the working group and has not been approved
David Wood: that proposal has been before the working group and has not been approved ←
16:15:13 <davidwood> ack ivan
David Wood: ack ivan ←
16:15:42 <pfps> ivan: there was a plan to have something like this
Ivan Herman: there was a plan to have something like this ←
16:16:16 <pfps> ivan: ... in a note
Ivan Herman: ... in a note ←
16:16:33 <pfps> sandro: correct, but I was hoping ...
Sandro Hawke: correct, but I was hoping ... ←
16:17:43 <pfps> david: we need to reply to Jeremy and at least say that a similar proposal was rejected and that nothing prohibits this
David Wood: we need to reply to Jeremy and at least say that a similar proposal was rejected and that nothing prohibits this ←
16:17:50 <AZ_> and there's a plan to make a note on dataset-semantics, which I have to finish (ED at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-dataset/index.html#)
Antoine Zimmermann: and there's a plan to make a note on dataset-semantics, which I have to finish (ED at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdf/raw-file/default/rdf-dataset/index.html#) ←
16:18:00 <pfps> sandro: and could ask what the minimum is here
Sandro Hawke: and could ask what the minimum is here ←
16:18:17 <pfps> david: and there is a note possibly in progress
David Wood: and there is a note possibly in progress ←
16:18:17 <markus> +q
Markus Lanthaler: +q ←
16:18:25 <davidwood> ack markus
David Wood: ack markus ←
16:18:34 <pfps> sandro: jeremy knows this already
Sandro Hawke: jeremy knows this already ←
16:19:12 <pfps> markus: are we planning to added rdf:bounddataset to note
Markus Lanthaler: are we planning to added rdf:bounddataset to note ←
16:19:31 <pfps> sandro: that would be in there
Sandro Hawke: that would be in there ←
16:19:49 <pfps> david: a non-arbitrary deadline for the WG would be mid-Nov
David Wood: a non-arbitrary deadline for the WG would be mid-Nov ←
16:20:02 <AZ_> q+
Antoine Zimmermann: q+ ←
16:20:06 <pfps> sandro: Jeremy might object to proceeeding unless the note exists
Sandro Hawke: Jeremy might object to proceeeding unless the note exists ←
16:20:37 <pfps> david: sandro please respond with history and say that a note on the issue will appear later and whether he is OK with that
David Wood: sandro please respond with history and say that a note on the issue will appear later and whether he is OK with that ←
16:20:43 <pfps> Topic: AOB
16:20:47 <AZ_> q-
Antoine Zimmermann: q- ←
16:20:56 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
16:21:36 <pfps> AZ: the note on dataset semantics is in progress since January and should be ready by September
Antoine Zimmermann: the note on dataset semantics is in progress since January and should be ready by September ←
16:21:52 <pfps> david: please try to finish soon - discussion may take some time
David Wood: please try to finish soon - discussion may take some time ←
16:22:29 <gavinc> bye!
Gavin Carothers: bye! ←
16:22:35 <Zakim> -gavinc
Zakim IRC Bot: -gavinc ←
16:22:39 <pfps> AZ: would be nice if peter or pat could take a look at it
Antoine Zimmermann: would be nice if peter or pat could take a look at it ←
16:22:41 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
16:22:41 <yvesr> bye
Yves Raimond: bye ←
16:22:42 <Zakim> -davidwood
Zakim IRC Bot: -davidwood ←
16:22:43 <AndyS> ADJOURNED
Andy Seaborne: ADJOURNED ←
16:22:43 <pfps> Topic: W3C Scribe System Foibles
16:22:43 <Zakim> -AZ
Zakim IRC Bot: -AZ ←
16:22:45 <Zakim> -TallTed
Zakim IRC Bot: -TallTed ←
16:22:46 <Zakim> -gkellogg
Zakim IRC Bot: -gkellogg ←
16:22:47 <Zakim> -lanthaler
Zakim IRC Bot: -lanthaler ←
16:22:52 <Zakim> -AndyS
Zakim IRC Bot: -AndyS ←
16:24:59 <davidwood> pfps, please see the directions at the top of http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Scribes
David Wood: pfps, please see the directions at the top of http://www.w3.org/2011/rdf-wg/wiki/Scribes ←
16:24:59 <pfps> that's obsolete, just go to the link in the Wiki to see the draft, and use the edit button there
that's obsolete, just go to the link in the Wiki to see the draft, and use the edit button there ←
16:40:40 <pfps> Internal System Error is popping up
(No events recorded for 15 minutes)
Internal System Error is popping up ←
16:41:57 <sandro> pfps, thanks.
Sandro Hawke: pfps, thanks. ←
16:42:02 <sandro> looking at it.
Sandro Hawke: looking at it. ←
16:43:34 <manu> RRSAgent: make logs public
16:43:56 <sandro> pfps, there's a bug where some scribe errors produce that instead of a proper error message.
Sandro Hawke: pfps, there's a bug where some scribe errors produce that instead of a proper error message. ←
16:44:20 <sandro> this line (change dashes back to colons!)
Sandro Hawke: this line (change dashes back to colons!) ←
16:44:22 <sandro> 15-02-14 Topic: Administrivia
Sandro Hawke: 15-02-14 Topic: Administrivia ←
16:44:24 <sandro> should have been
Sandro Hawke: should have been ←
16:44:34 <sandro> 15-02-14 <pfps> Topic: Administrivia
Sandro Hawke: 15-02-14 <pfps> Topic: Administrivia ←
16:45:33 <sandro> I just fixed it by manually going to https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2013-08-21?edit=1
Sandro Hawke: I just fixed it by manually going to https://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/rdf-wg/2013-08-21?edit=1 ←
16:54:30 <Zakim> -pfps
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Zakim IRC Bot: -pfps ←
16:59:30 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, yvesr, in SW_RDFWG()11:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: disconnecting the lone participant, yvesr, in SW_RDFWG()11:00AM ←
16:59:32 <Zakim> SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_RDFWG()11:00AM has ended ←
16:59:32 <Zakim> Attendees were bhyland1, +1.408.992.aaaa, pfps, +081165aabb, TallTed, davidwood, Ivan, Sandro, AndyS, yvesr, +081165aacc, AZ, +1.415.686.aadd, gkellogg, gavinc, Souri, EricP,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were bhyland1, +1.408.992.aaaa, pfps, +081165aabb, TallTed, davidwood, Ivan, Sandro, AndyS, yvesr, +081165aacc, AZ, +1.415.686.aadd, gkellogg, gavinc, Souri, EricP, ←
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Zakim IRC Bot: ... lanthaler ←
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