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Provenance Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 28 April 2011

Agenda
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Apr/0008.html
Seen
Carl Reed, Daniel Garijo, David Corsar, Edoardo Pignotti, Eric Stephan, Iker Huerga, James Cheney, James Frew, Jim McCusker, Jorn Hees, Jun Zhao, Jörn Hees, Khalid Belhajjame, Lars G, Lena X, Luc Moreau, Olaf Hartig, Paul Groth, Paulo Pinheiro da Silva, Sam Coppens, Sandro Hawke, Satya Sahoo, Simon Dobson, Simon Miles, Stephan Zednik, Tim Lebo, Unknown JimM, Unknown Lena, Yogesh Simmhan, Yolanda Gil
Guests
Yolanda Gil, Jim McCusker, Simon Miles, Olaf Hartig, Satya Sahoo, Yogesh Simmhan, James Frew, Stephan Zednik, Simon Dobson, Tim Lebo, Jorn Hees, Khalid Belhajjame, Lars G, Edoardo Pignotti, Lena X, David Corsar
Chair
Luc Moreau
Scribe
Paul Groth, Luc Moreau
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Have F2F1 near Boston on July 6-7 link
Topics
  1. Welcome

    Luc Moreau, Paul Groth and Sandro Hawke introduced themselves, and welcomed participants

  2. Meeting schedules

    Weekly call on Thursdays at this time, and first face to face meeting on Jul 6-7 in Boston

  3. WG tools

    W3C tools were introduced: for minute takings, wiki, and speaker queue.

  4. Introductions

    Participants introduced themselves briefly. They are invited to send an extended introduction by email to the mailing list and update their entry on the Wiki.

  5. Deliverable timetable

    Activities will be front loaded, with the first deliverable due after 6 months.

  6. Provenance Task Forces

    Four task forces are proposed to structure the work of the Working Group

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<sandro> Guest: Yolanda Gil
<sandro> Guest: Jim McCusker
<luc> Guest: Simon Miles
<luc> Guest: Olaf Hartig
<luc> Guest: Satya Sahoo
<luc> Guest: Yogesh Simmhan
<luc> Guest: James Frew
<luc> Guest: Stephan Zednik
<luc> Guest: Simon (Simoninireland) Dobson
<luc> Guest: Tim (rpi-lebo) Lebo
<luc> Guest: Jorn Hees
<luc> Guest: Khalid Belhajjame
<luc> Guest: Lars G
<luc> Guest: Edoardo (ed-uoa) Pignotti
<luc> Guest: Lena X
<sandro> Guest: David Corsar
14:52:03 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-irc

14:52:05 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world

14:52:07 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be

14:52:07 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot

14:52:08 <trackbot> Meeting: Provenance Working Group Teleconference
14:52:08 <trackbot> Date: 28 April 2011
14:52:48 <pgroth> Zakim, this will be PROV

Paul Groth: Zakim, this will be PROV

14:52:48 <Zakim> ok, pgroth; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, pgroth; I see SW_(PROV)11:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes

14:53:27 <Zakim> SW_(PROV)11:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: SW_(PROV)11:00AM has now started

14:53:35 <Zakim> + +44.238.059.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.238.059.aaaa

14:54:47 <Luc_> zakim, +44.238.059.aaaa is me

Luc Moreau: zakim, +44.238.059.aaaa is me

14:54:47 <Zakim> +Luc_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Luc_; got it

14:55:21 <Zakim> +??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6

14:56:21 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:56:34 <pgroth> Zakim, +[IPcaller] is me

Paul Groth: Zakim, +[IPcaller] is me

14:56:34 <Zakim> sorry, pgroth, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, pgroth, I do not recognize a party named '+[IPcaller]'

14:56:48 <Zakim> +??P10

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10

14:56:53 <pgroth> Zakim, IPcaller is me

Paul Groth: Zakim, IPcaller is me

14:56:56 <Zakim> +pgroth; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +pgroth; got it

14:57:21 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

14:57:42 <Zakim> +??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3

14:57:58 <pgroth> scribe: pgroth

(Scribe set to Paul Groth)

14:58:24 <Zakim> + +1.805.893.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.805.893.aabb

14:58:45 <Zakim> +??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19

14:59:01 <Zakim> -??P10

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P10

14:59:09 <Zakim> +[ISI]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[ISI]

14:59:40 <Zakim> + +1.518.276.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.518.276.aacc

14:59:41 <Zakim> + +1.216.368.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.216.368.aadd

14:59:45 <sandro> RRSAgent, pointer?

Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, pointer?

14:59:45 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-irc#T14-59-45

RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-irc#T14-59-45

14:59:48 <Zakim> + +1.509.375.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.375.aaee

14:59:48 <sandro> trackbot, start

Sandro Hawke: trackbot, start

14:59:48 <trackbot> Sorry, sandro, I don't understand 'trackbot, start'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, sandro, I don't understand 'trackbot, start'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help

15:00:06 <sandro> RRSAgent, pointer?

Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, pointer?

15:00:06 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-irc#T15-00-06

RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-irc#T15-00-06

15:00:06 <Zakim> +??P25

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P25

15:00:15 <DanielGarijo> Zakim, ??P19 is em

Daniel Garijo: Zakim, ??P19 is em

15:00:15 <Zakim> +em; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +em; got it

15:00:19 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call?

15:00:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see Luc_, ??P6, pgroth, Sandro, ??P3, +1.805.893.aabb, em, [ISI], +1.518.276.aacc, +1.216.368.aadd, +1.509.375.aaee, ??P25

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Luc_, ??P6, pgroth, Sandro, ??P3, +1.805.893.aabb, em, [ISI], +1.518.276.aacc, +1.216.368.aadd, +1.509.375.aaee, ??P25

15:00:24 <jcheney> Zakim, ??P25 isme

James Cheney: Zakim, ??P25 isme

15:00:27 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P25 isme', jcheney

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '??P25 isme', jcheney

15:00:27 <DanielGarijo> Zakim, ??P19 is me

Daniel Garijo: Zakim, ??P19 is me

15:00:27 <jcheney> Zakim, ??P25 is me

James Cheney: Zakim, ??P25 is me

15:00:28 <Zakim> I already had ??P19 as em, DanielGarijo

Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P19 as em, DanielGarijo

15:00:30 <Zakim> +jcheney; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +jcheney; got it

15:00:33 <Zakim> +??P29

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P29

15:00:33 <YolandaGil> Zakim, [ISI] is really me

Yolanda Gil: Zakim, [ISI] is really me

15:00:36 <Zakim> +??P27

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27

15:00:44 <Zakim> + +49.302.093.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.302.093.aaff

15:00:51 <Zakim> +YolandaGil; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +YolandaGil; got it

15:00:54 <iker> zakim, who is on the chat?

Iker Huerga: zakim, who is on the chat?

15:01:09 <olaf> zakim, aaff is really me

Olaf Hartig: zakim, aaff is really me

15:01:11 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, iker.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, iker.

15:01:19 <jorn> Zakim, ??P29 is me

Jörn Hees: Zakim, ??P29 is me

15:01:20 <sandro> Zakim, who is here?

Sandro Hawke: Zakim, who is here?

15:01:24 <Satya> Zakim, +1.216.368.aadd is me

Satya Sahoo: Zakim, +1.216.368.aadd is me

15:01:26 <jun> zakim, p29 is jun

Jun Zhao: zakim, p29 is jun

15:01:30 <Zakim> +??P26

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P26

15:01:33 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking?

15:01:36 <Zakim> +olaf; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +olaf; got it

15:01:40 <Zakim> +??P30

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P30

15:01:40 <jun> zakim, ??p29 is jun

Jun Zhao: zakim, ??p29 is jun

15:01:46 <Zakim> +jorn; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +jorn; got it

15:01:49 <pgroth> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Apr/0008.html
15:01:50 <Zakim> On the phone I see Luc_, ??P6, pgroth, Sandro, ??P3, +1.805.893.aabb, em, YolandaGil, +1.518.276.aacc, +1.216.368.aadd, +1.509.375.aaee, jcheney, jorn, ??P27, olaf, ??P26, ??P30

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Luc_, ??P6, pgroth, Sandro, ??P3, +1.805.893.aabb, em, YolandaGil, +1.518.276.aacc, +1.216.368.aadd, +1.509.375.aaee, jcheney, jorn, ??P27, olaf, ??P26, ??P30

15:01:57 <Zakim> +Satya; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Satya; got it

15:01:59 <Zakim> + +1.540.449.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.540.449.aagg

15:02:01 <Zakim> sorry, jun, I do not recognize a party named 'p29'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, jun, I do not recognize a party named 'p29'

15:02:06 <jun> zakim, +??p29 is jun

Jun Zhao: zakim, +??p29 is jun

15:02:13 <Zakim> + +1.518.633.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.518.633.aahh

15:02:17 <Zakim> I already had ??P29 as jorn, jun

Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P29 as jorn, jun

15:02:21 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (60%), Luc_ (25%), ??P26 (4%), olaf (38%), ??P30 (42%)

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (60%), Luc_ (25%), ??P26 (4%), olaf (38%), ??P30 (42%)

15:02:34 <jun> zakim, ??p26 is jun

Jun Zhao: zakim, ??p26 is jun

15:02:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see LarsG, frew, jun, jcheney, smiles, Satya, YolandaGil, JimMcCusker, rpi-lebo, olaf, Zakim, RRSAgent, Yogesh, DanielGarijo, iker, Luc_, pgroth, jorn, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see LarsG, frew, jun, jcheney, smiles, Satya, YolandaGil, JimMcCusker, rpi-lebo, olaf, Zakim, RRSAgent, Yogesh, DanielGarijo, iker, Luc_, pgroth, jorn, sandro, trackbot

15:02:41 <Zakim> + +1.937.708.aaii

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.937.708.aaii

15:02:49 <Zakim> sorry, jun, I do not recognize a party named '+??p29'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, jun, I do not recognize a party named '+??p29'

15:02:57 <Zakim> + +1.832.386.aajj

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.832.386.aajj

15:03:11 <Zakim> +jun; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +jun; got it

15:03:22 <JimMcCusker> zakim, +1.518.276.aacc is me, rpi-lebo

Jim McCusker: zakim, +1.518.276.aacc is me, rpi-lebo

15:03:23 <Zakim> + +329331aakk

Zakim IRC Bot: + +329331aakk

15:03:24 <pgroth> Chair: Luc Moreau
15:03:43 <Zakim> I don't understand '+1.518.276.aacc is me, rpi-lebo', JimMcCusker

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '+1.518.276.aacc is me, rpi-lebo', JimMcCusker

15:03:57 <sandro> topic: Welcome

1. Welcome

Summary: Luc Moreau, Paul Groth and Sandro Hawke introduced themselves, and welcomed participants

15:03:57 <Luc> Summary: Luc Moreau, Paul Groth and Sandro Hawke introduced themselves, and welcomed participants
15:04:08 <JimMcCusker> zakim, +1.518.276.aacc is JimMcCusker, rpi-lebo

Jim McCusker: zakim, +1.518.276.aacc is JimMcCusker, rpi-lebo

15:04:17 <Zakim> I don't understand you, JimMcCusker

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand you, JimMcCusker

15:04:23 <Zakim> + +329331aall

Zakim IRC Bot: + +329331aall

15:04:35 <pgroth> sandro: introducing himself

Sandro Hawke: introducing himself

15:04:57 <JimMcCusker> zakim, +1.518.276.aacc is JimMcCusker

Jim McCusker: zakim, +1.518.276.aacc is JimMcCusker

15:04:57 <Zakim> +JimMcCusker; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JimMcCusker; got it

15:05:02 <Zakim> + +1.915.603.aamm

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.915.603.aamm

15:05:02 <JimMcCusker> zakim, +1.518.276.aacc is rpi-lebo

Jim McCusker: zakim, +1.518.276.aacc is rpi-lebo

15:05:05 <Zakim> sorry, JimMcCusker, I do not recognize a party named '+1.518.276.aacc'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, JimMcCusker, I do not recognize a party named '+1.518.276.aacc'

15:05:11 <pgroth> luc: discussing membership

Luc Moreau: discussing membership

15:05:31 <SamCoppens> zakim, +329331aall is SamCoppens

Sam Coppens: zakim, +329331aall is SamCoppens

15:05:31 <Zakim> +SamCoppens; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +SamCoppens; got it

15:05:32 <pgroth> luc: 25 members as of now, invited experts decided by next week

Luc Moreau: 25 members as of now, invited experts decided by next week

15:05:33 <Zakim> - +1.540.449.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.540.449.aagg

15:05:45 <pgroth> luc: going over the agenda

Luc Moreau: going over the agenda

15:05:53 <pgroth> Topic: Meeting schedules

2. Meeting schedules

Summary: Weekly call on Thursdays at this time, and first face to face meeting on Jul 6-7 in Boston

15:05:53 <pgroth> Summary: Weekly call on Thursdays at this time, and first face to face meeting on Jul 6-7 in Boston
15:06:03 <Zakim> + +1.540.449.aann

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.540.449.aann

15:06:07 <pgroth> luc: telecon times

Luc Moreau: telecon times

15:06:24 <pgroth> luc: try for 60 minutes, but 90 minutes blocked

Luc Moreau: try for 60 minutes, but 90 minutes blocked

15:06:51 <pgroth> luc: F2F meetings

Luc Moreau: F2F meetings

15:07:02 <pgroth> luc: initial charter said only one F2F meeting

Luc Moreau: initial charter said only one F2F meeting

15:07:11 <pgroth> luc: think that 2 a year are needed

Luc Moreau: think that 2 a year are needed

15:07:36 <pgroth> luc: poll July 6-7 identified for the first meeting

Luc Moreau: poll July 6-7 identified for the first meeting

15:07:46 <Zakim> +Jeff_Pan

Zakim IRC Bot: +Jeff_Pan

15:07:46 <Zakim> -??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P6

15:07:47 <pgroth> luc: slight preference for boston

Luc Moreau: slight preference for boston

15:07:57 <pgroth> +q

+q

15:08:05 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

15:08:26 <pgroth> q-

q-

15:09:03 <Luc_> q?

Luc Moreau: q?

15:10:15 <sandro> sandro: f2f2 probably either at ISWC or TPAC

Sandro Hawke: f2f2 probably either at ISWC or TPAC [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:10:15 <smiles> Yes

Simon Miles: Yes

15:10:16 <jcheney> Boston OK

James Cheney: Boston OK

15:10:17 <Satya> +1 for Boston

Satya Sahoo: +1 for Boston

15:10:18 <rpi-lebo> boston meeting: good!

Tim Lebo: boston meeting: good!

15:10:20 <jorn> -1 boston

Jörn Hees: -1 boston

15:10:25 <YolandaGil> I cannot make a meeting in July, sorry

Yolanda Gil: I cannot make a meeting in July, sorry

15:10:25 <DanielGarijo> i won't be able to attend in July :(

Daniel Garijo: i won't be able to attend in July :(

15:10:26 <SamCoppens> +1 Boston

Sam Coppens: +1 Boston

15:10:31 <iker> -1 boston

Iker Huerga: -1 boston

15:10:32 <sandro> PROPOSED: Have F2F1 near Boston on July 6-7

PROPOSED: Have F2F1 near Boston on July 6-7

15:10:33 <JimMcCusker> +1 Boston

Jim McCusker: +1 Boston

15:10:34 <Zakim> - +1.540.449.aann

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.540.449.aann

15:10:37 <jun> I cannot make in July, sorry

Jun Zhao: I cannot make in July, sorry

15:10:43 <pgroth> +1

+1

15:10:48 <Luc_> +1

Luc Moreau: +1

15:10:50 <smiles> +1

Simon Miles: +1

15:10:50 <rpi-lebo> +1

Tim Lebo: +1

15:10:50 <LarsG> I won't be able to attend neither Boston, nor Southampton

Lars G: I won't be able to attend neither Boston, nor Southampton

15:10:51 <jcheney> 0

James Cheney: 0

15:10:58 <sandro> 0

Sandro Hawke: 0

15:11:05 <Lena> +1

Scribe problem: the name 'Lena' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Lena X Helena Deus . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Scribe problem: the name 'Lena' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Lena X Helena Deus . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Unknown Lena: +1

15:11:06 <olaf> -1

Olaf Hartig: -1

15:11:23 <frew> +0 Boston

James Frew: +0 Boston

15:11:24 <Zakim> + +1.540.449.aaoo

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.540.449.aaoo

15:11:30 <pgroth> paulo: +1

Paulo Pinheiro da Silva: +1

15:11:39 <pgroth> eric: +1

Eric Stephan: +1

15:12:53 <Zakim> +??P43

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P43

15:13:00 <Zakim> + +1.518.276.aapp

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.518.276.aapp

15:13:58 <sandro> iker: I'd rather it be in soton

Iker Huerga: I'd rather it be in soton [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:14:15 <sandro> pgroth: would you ever be able to travel to the US, maybe in winter

Paul Groth: would you ever be able to travel to the US, maybe in winter [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:14:26 <sandro> iker: yes, maybe later

Iker Huerga: yes, maybe later [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:14:40 <sandro> Luc: could you join by telecon, as a backup.

Luc Moreau: could you join by telecon, as a backup. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:14:44 <sandro> iker: Yes

Iker Huerga: Yes [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:15:24 <sandro> olaf: i do not think I can go to the US (at any point), but can join by teleconference.

Olaf Hartig: i do not think I can go to the US (at any point), but can join by teleconference. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:16:17 <Ed-UOA> Edoardo Pignotti and David Corsar from Aberdeen University, we are not sure we will be able to attend face-to-face meeting in Boston

Edoardo Pignotti: Edoardo Pignotti and David Corsar from Aberdeen University, we are not sure we will be able to attend face-to-face meeting in Boston

15:16:48 <sandro> pgroth: sounds like consensus, lots of +1s, and the people who can't make it can join by teleconf.

Paul Groth: sounds like consensus, lots of +1s, and the people who can't make it can join by teleconf. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:16:50 <JimM> I've developed a conflict July 6-7 - may be able to dial in for bits

Scribe problem: the name 'JimM' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Jim McCusker James Myers . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Scribe problem: the name 'JimM' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Jim McCusker James Myers . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Unknown JimM: I've developed a conflict July 6-7 - may be able to dial in for bits

15:17:07 <sandro> Zakim, list attendees

Sandro Hawke: Zakim, list attendees

15:17:07 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Luc_, pgroth, Sandro, +1.805.893.aabb, +1.509.375.aaee, em, jcheney, +49.302.093.aaff, YolandaGil, olaf, jorn, Satya, +1.540.449.aagg,

Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been Luc_, pgroth, Sandro, +1.805.893.aabb, +1.509.375.aaee, em, jcheney, +49.302.093.aaff, YolandaGil, olaf, jorn, Satya, +1.540.449.aagg,

15:17:11 <Zakim> ... +1.518.633.aahh, +1.937.708.aaii, +1.832.386.aajj, jun, +329331aakk, LarsG, JimMcCusker, +1.915.603.aamm, SamCoppens, +1.540.449.aann, Jeff_Pan, +1.540.449.aaoo,

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.518.633.aahh, +1.937.708.aaii, +1.832.386.aajj, jun, +329331aakk, LarsG, JimMcCusker, +1.915.603.aamm, SamCoppens, +1.540.449.aann, Jeff_Pan, +1.540.449.aaoo,

15:17:13 <Zakim> ... +1.518.276.aapp

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.518.276.aapp

15:18:14 <paulo> +1.915.603.aamm is paulo

Paulo Pinheiro da Silva: +1.915.603.aamm is paulo

15:18:16 <sandro> RESOLVED: Have F2F1 near Boston on July 6-7

RESOLVED: Have F2F1 near Boston on July 6-7

15:18:27 <sandro> (with dialin available)

Sandro Hawke: (with dialin available)

15:19:08 <sandro> sandro: Yes, I'll host it at MIT.

Sandro Hawke: Yes, I'll host it at MIT. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:19:19 <pgroth> TOPIC: WG tools

3. WG tools

Summary: W3C tools were introduced: for minute takings, wiki, and speaker queue.

<luc> Summary: W3C tools were introduced: for minute takings, wiki, and speaker queue.
15:20:07 <pgroth> +q

+q

15:20:28 <Luc_> q?

Luc Moreau: q?

15:20:37 <pgroth> sandro: introducing irc notes

Sandro Hawke: introducing irc notes

15:20:43 <pgroth> sandro: all logs are public

Sandro Hawke: all logs are public

15:21:23 <pgroth> sandro: mailing list, you are automatically joined when you join the working group

Sandro Hawke: mailing list, you are automatically joined when you join the working group

15:21:50 <pgroth> sandro: wiki, the same password as joining the working group

Sandro Hawke: wiki, the same password as joining the working group

15:22:08 <Zakim> + +1.202.688.aaqq

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.688.aaqq

15:22:32 <Zakim> +??P21

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P21

15:22:32 <pgroth> sandro: document preparation, will discuss later the various options

Sandro Hawke: document preparation, will discuss later the various options

15:23:10 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

15:23:22 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q-

15:23:27 <pgroth> q-

q-

15:23:44 <pgroth> sandro: discussing the speaker queue

Sandro Hawke: discussing the speaker queue

15:24:07 <pgroth> q?

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15:24:17 <olaf> http://www.w3.org/2002/01/UsingZakim

Olaf Hartig: http://www.w3.org/2002/01/UsingZakim

15:24:33 <olaf> http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html

Olaf Hartig: http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot.html

15:24:35 <pgroth> \me thanks olaf

\me thanks olaf

15:25:08 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call?

15:25:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see Luc_, pgroth, Sandro, ??P3, +1.805.893.aabb, em, YolandaGil, JimMcCusker, Satya, +1.509.375.aaee, jcheney, jorn, ??P27, olaf, jun, ??P30, +1.518.633.aahh, LarsG,

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15:25:38 <JimM> JimM is 518-276

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Scribe problem: the name 'JimM' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Jim McCusker James Myers . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Unknown JimM: JimM is 518-276

15:25:50 <sandro> Zakim, aapp is JimM

Sandro Hawke: Zakim, aapp is JimM

15:25:50 <Zakim> +JimM; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +JimM; got it

15:26:07 <stephanzednik> StephanZednik is on via skype

Stephan Zednik: StephanZednik is on via skype

15:26:12 <Lena> Zakim, aajj is Lena

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15:26:12 <Zakim> +Lena; got it

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15:26:14 <simoninireland> I'm on a SIP connection

Simon Dobson: I'm on a SIP connection

15:26:21 <stephanzednik> StephanZednik is also from RPI

Stephan Zednik: StephanZednik is also from RPI

15:26:38 <DanielGarijo> Zakim, em is DanielGarijo

Daniel Garijo: Zakim, em is DanielGarijo

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15:26:59 <paulo> paulo is aamm

Paulo Pinheiro da Silva: paulo is aamm

15:27:08 <rpi-lebo> Zakim, aacc is DeborahMcGuinness

Tim Lebo: Zakim, aacc is DeborahMcGuinness

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15:27:26 <Zakim> -??P43

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15:27:54 <pgroth> TOPIC: Introductions

4. Introductions

Summary: Participants introduced themselves briefly. They are invited to send an extended introduction by email to the mailing list and update their entry on the Wiki.

<luc> Summary: Participants introduced themselves briefly. They are invited to send an extended introduction by email to the mailing list and update their entry on the Wiki.
15:28:25 <Luc_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Apr/0001.html

Luc Moreau: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-prov-wg/2011Apr/0001.html

15:28:50 <pgroth> luc: asking people to introduce themselves on the mailing list

Luc Moreau: asking people to introduce themselves on the mailing list

15:29:10 <pgroth> luc: you can also edit your wiki page at the W3C

Luc Moreau: you can also edit your wiki page at the W3C

15:29:45 <pgroth> carl: Carl Reed, chief technology officer of the open geospatial consortium

Carl Reed: Carl Reed, chief technology officer of the open geospatial consortium

15:30:02 <pgroth> carlOGC: provenance is a huge issue in geospatial info

Carl Reed: provenance is a huge issue in geospatial info

<luc> carlOGC: The activities in a number of different working groups of the OGC

Carl Reed: The activities in a number of different working groups of the OGC [ Scribe Assist by Luc Moreau ]

<luc> carlOGC: touch on requirements and issues related to provenance of geospatial data.

Carl Reed: touch on requirements and issues related to provenance of geospatial data. [ Scribe Assist by Luc Moreau ]

<luc> carlOGC: These include the Metadata WG, the Data Quality WG, the Workflow WG, the

Carl Reed: These include the Metadata WG, the Data Quality WG, the Workflow WG, the [ Scribe Assist by Luc Moreau ]

<luc> carlOGC: Data Preservation WG, and the Decision Support WG.

Carl Reed: Data Preservation WG, and the Decision Support WG. [ Scribe Assist by Luc Moreau ]

15:30:36 <pgroth> thanks carl

thanks carl

15:30:55 <Zakim> - +1.540.449.aaoo

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.540.449.aaoo

15:31:44 <pgroth> danielgarijo: phd student, involved in the provenance incubator group and the dublin core group

Daniel Garijo: phd student, involved in the provenance incubator group and the dublin core group

15:31:50 <Zakim> + +1.540.449.aarr

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.540.449.aarr

15:32:03 <Yogesh> zakim, +1.540.449.aarr is me

Yogesh Simmhan: zakim, +1.540.449.aarr is me

15:32:03 <Zakim> +Yogesh; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yogesh; got it

15:32:39 <pgroth> danielgarijo: interested in provenance for news and how this group integrates with dublin core

Daniel Garijo: interested in provenance for news and how this group integrates with dublin core

15:32:52 <pgroth> Ed-UOA: research fellow at University of Aberdeen

Edoardo Pignotti: research fellow at University of Aberdeen

15:32:53 <iker> sorry, but i'm having problems with the sound, ask me and I will introduce through IRC

Iker Huerga: sorry, but i'm having problems with the sound, ask me and I will introduce through IRC

15:33:10 <pgroth> Ed-UOA: interested of provenance related to digital social research and linked open data

Edoardo Pignotti: interested of provenance related to digital social research and linked open data

15:33:19 <Zakim> +??P52

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P52

15:33:35 <pgroth> David Corser: also from aberdeen,

David Corser: also from aberdeen,

15:33:43 <Zakim> -LarsG

Zakim IRC Bot: -LarsG

15:34:15 <pgroth> frew: James Frew professor from UCSB, transparent acquisition of provenance and use in earth sciences

James Frew: James Frew professor from UCSB, transparent acquisition of provenance and use in earth sciences

15:35:16 <iker> linkatu.net

Iker Huerga: linkatu.net

15:35:19 <pgroth> iker: working on semantic web technologies, applying these technologies to health care and life sciences

Iker Huerga: working on semantic web technologies, applying these technologies to health care and life sciences

15:36:02 <pgroth> jcheney: james cheney at University of Edinburgh, provenance and databases and integrating this research into larger applications. most likely to be involved in formal semantics

James Cheney: james cheney at University of Edinburgh, provenance and databases and integrating this research into larger applications. most likely to be involved in formal semantics

15:36:40 <pgroth> JimM: Jim Myers - supercomputing center at RPI, interested in provenance with respect to e-science

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Unknown JimM: Jim Myers - supercomputing center at RPI, interested in provenance with respect to e-science

15:37:05 <pgroth> JimMcCusker: phd student at RPI, biomedical domain, integrating domain specific provenance models

Jim McCusker: phd student at RPI, biomedical domain, integrating domain specific provenance models

15:37:37 <pgroth> jorn: Jorn Hees phd student at DFKI, interested in provenance related to linked data, and licensing issues

Jörn Hees: J?rn Hees phd student at DFKI, interested in provenance related to linked data, and licensing issues

15:38:21 <pgroth> jun: postdoctoral fellow at Oxford, working on provenance for 8 years in the areas of e-science, life science, data quality on the web. take a pragmatic approach to provenance

Jun Zhao: postdoctoral fellow at Oxford, working on provenance for 8 years in the areas of e-science, life science, data quality on the web. take a pragmatic approach to provenance

15:38:50 <jorn> s/Jorn/J?rn/
15:39:11 <pgroth> khalidbelhajjame: researcher at the university of manchester, interested in the use of provenance, applications of provenance

Khalid Belhajjame: researcher at the university of manchester, interested in the use of provenance, applications of provenance

15:39:44 <pgroth> LarsG: from german national library, provenance with respect to library and provenance data

Lars G: from german national library, provenance with respect to library and provenance data

15:40:41 <pgroth> Lena: Helena Deus, postdoctoral fellow at deri, from a biology background, also part of the HCLS working group

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Unknown Lena: Helena Deus, postdoctoral fellow at deri, from a biology background, also part of the HCLS working group

15:41:31 <pgroth> olaf: Olaf Harting phd student at Humbolt University, main research topic is execution of queries over the Web of Data, provenance is a critical part of assessing trust

Olaf Hartig: Olaf Hartig phd student at Humbolt University, main research topic is execution of queries over the Web of Data, provenance is a critical part of assessing trust

15:42:10 <olaf> s/Harting/Hartig
15:42:19 <pgroth> paulo: professor at University of El Paso, help scientists to benefit provenance especially related to human systems

Paulo Pinheiro da Silva: professor at University of El Paso, help scientists to benefit provenance especially related to human systems

15:42:50 <pgroth> rpi-lebo: phd student at RPI looking at provenance from aggregated government data sources

Tim Lebo: phd student at RPI looking at provenance from aggregated government data sources

15:43:24 <pgroth> SamCoppens: focused on long term preservation, research at IBBT

Sam Coppens: focused on long term preservation, research at IBBT

15:43:49 <pgroth> Satya: assistant professor at case western,

Satya Sahoo: assistant professor at case western,

15:44:39 <pgroth> simoninireland: simon dibson, professor at st. andrews in scotland, interested in sensor networks, making sure that information is correctly processed

Simon Dobson: simon dobson, professor at st. andrews in scotland, interested in sensor networks, making sure that information is correctly processed

15:45:01 <simoninireland> s/dibson/dobson/g
15:45:16 <pgroth> smiles: Simon Miles - lecturer at Kings College, looking at provenance with respect to health care

Simon Miles: Simon Miles - lecturer at Kings College, looking at provenance with respect to health care

15:45:35 <pgroth> yogesh: looking at provenance from streaming data, at USC

Yogesh Simmhan: looking at provenance from streaming data, at USC

15:47:36 <pgroth> YolandaGil: at USC/ISI, interested in how you make trust judgements based on provenance, capturing data provenance for scientific workflows (a number of domains), integrating this work with scientific articles. Chaired the provenance incubator group. Interested in connections to the W3C hcls group

Yolanda Gil: at USC/ISI, interested in how you make trust judgements based on provenance, capturing data provenance for scientific workflows (a number of domains), integrating this work with scientific articles. Chaired the provenance incubator group. Interested in connections to the W3C hcls group

15:48:08 <pgroth> zednik: Stefan Zednik researcher at RPI, explaining processing based on provenance

Stephan Zednik: Stefan Zednik researcher at RPI, explaining processing based on provenance

15:48:09 <JimMcCusker> Cynthia Chang (RPI) is not on IRC but on the call

Jim McCusker: Cynthia Chang (RPI) is not on IRC but on the call

15:48:31 <Satya> Satya: interested in e-science, biomedical informatics with focus on translational research, involved in provenance representation and query performance

Satya Sahoo: interested in e-science, biomedical informatics with focus on translational research, involved in provenance representation and query performance [ Scribe Assist by Satya Sahoo ]

15:48:56 <pgroth> Erik Stefan: from Pacific Northwest National Labratory, using provenance for science especially at large scales

Erik Stephan: from Pacific Northwest National Labratory, using provenance for science especially at large scales

15:49:11 <Zakim> -Yogesh

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yogesh

15:49:29 <Zakim> +Yogesh

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yogesh

15:49:37 <pgroth> Sandro: staff contact, involved in a number of working groups, is very interested in interchange of data

Sandro Hawke: staff contact, involved in a number of working groups, is very interested in interchange of data

15:50:08 <pgroth> TOPIC: Deliverable timetable

5. Deliverable timetable

Summary: Activities will be front loaded, with the first deliverable due after 6 months.

<luc> Summary: Activities will be front loaded, with the first deliverable due after 6 months.
15:50:15 <jorn> http://www.w3.org/2011/01/prov-wg-charter.html

Jörn Hees: http://www.w3.org/2011/01/prov-wg-charter.html

15:50:16 <zednik> s/Stefan/Stephan
15:50:23 <pgroth> luc: not going to go through the whole charter

Luc Moreau: not going to go through the whole charter

15:51:01 <pgroth> luc: the first working draft after 6 months

Luc Moreau: the first working draft after 6 months

15:51:17 <pgroth> luc: after 9 months mechanisms to access/query provenance

Luc Moreau: after 9 months mechanisms to access/query provenance

15:51:33 <pgroth> luc: very close succession of deliverables

Luc Moreau: very close succession of deliverables

15:51:46 <pgroth> luc: reason is because of the W3C approval process

Luc Moreau: reason is because of the W3C approval process

15:52:09 <pgroth> luc: aware that there is a lot of work towards the beginning of the working group activity

Luc Moreau: aware that there is a lot of work towards the beginning of the working group activity

15:52:26 <pgroth> luc: questions about the timetable?

Luc Moreau: questions about the timetable?

15:52:31 <Luc_> q?

Luc Moreau: q?

15:52:59 <Luc_> Scribe: Luc_

(Scribe set to Luc Moreau)

15:52:59 <Luc_> Topic: Provenance Task Forces

6. Provenance Task Forces

Summary: Four task forces are proposed to structure the work of the Working Group

15:52:59 <Luc_> Summary: Four task forces are proposed to structure the work of the Working Group
15:53:24 <Luc_> pgroth: organize work in 4 task forces

Paul Groth: organize work in 4 task forces

15:53:38 <Luc_> ... introduction, and then see who is interested in what

... introduction, and then see who is interested in what

15:53:59 <Luc_> ... 1. model task force

... 1. model task force

15:54:12 <Luc_> ... 2. provenance access and query task force

... 2. provenance access and query task force

15:54:28 <Luc_> ... 3. Connection task force

... 3. Connection task force

15:54:42 <Luc_> ... how to reach to other communities

... how to reach to other communities

15:55:14 <Luc_> ... 4. Implementation and test cases task force

... 4. Implementation and test cases task force

15:55:47 <Luc_> ... need two implementations, how do we know we've got it right? (test cases)

... need two implementations, how do we know we've got it right? (test cases)

15:55:58 <Luc_> ... People can be part of many task forces

... People can be part of many task forces

15:56:05 <Luc_> questions?

questions?

15:56:18 <DanielGarijo> +q

Daniel Garijo: +q

15:56:39 <Luc_> DanielGarijo: how are task forces going to communicate?

Daniel Garijo: how are task forces going to communicate?

15:57:11 <Luc_> pgroth: all communications on same mailing list, same wiki, same weekly teleconference

Paul Groth: all communications on same mailing list, same wiki, same weekly teleconference

15:57:22 <jun> q+

Jun Zhao: q+

15:57:22 <Luc_> q-

q-

15:57:32 <DanielGarijo> -q

Daniel Garijo: -q

15:57:35 <DanielGarijo> q-

Daniel Garijo: q-

15:57:39 <jun> q-

Jun Zhao: q-

15:57:42 <Luc_> Jun: are task forces going to run in parallel?

Jun Zhao: are task forces going to run in parallel?

15:57:57 <Luc_> pgroth: yes

Paul Groth: yes

15:58:20 <Luc_> ... they will work on different things

... they will work on different things

15:58:26 <jcheney> +q

James Cheney: +q

15:58:26 <paulo> q+

Paulo Pinheiro da Silva: q+

15:59:09 <Luc_> jcheney: there is a lot of work that was compiled in the incubator, we should put a link to that

James Cheney: there is a lot of work that was compiled in the incubator, we should put a link to that

15:59:27 <Luc_> jcheney: we need more concrete things to do

James Cheney: we need more concrete things to do

15:59:39 <Luc_> jcheney: making sure that everybody is on the same page

James Cheney: making sure that everybody is on the same page

15:59:51 <jorn> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/XGR-prov-20101214/ ?

Jörn Hees: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/XGR-prov-20101214/ ?

16:00:17 <Luc_> ACTION: pgroth to make link to incubator group work

ACTION: pgroth to make link to incubator group work

16:00:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-1 - Make link to incubator group work [on Paul Groth - due 2011-05-05].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-1 - Make link to incubator group work [on Paul Groth - due 2011-05-05].

16:00:19 <jcheney> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/

James Cheney: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/

16:00:46 <Luc_> Paulo: how can we work in parallel without having a model yet?

Paulo Pinheiro da Silva: how can we work in parallel without having a model yet?

16:01:03 <Zakim> - +1.202.688.aaqq

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.202.688.aaqq

16:01:04 <Luc_> ... do we have full agreement on terms?

... do we have full agreement on terms?

16:01:08 <JimMcCusker> q+

Jim McCusker: q+

16:01:12 <jcheney> q-

James Cheney: q-

16:01:24 <Luc_> Paul Groth: that's the work of the model task force

Paul Groth: that's the work of the model task force

16:01:33 <DanielGarijo> didn't we compile a set of terms to "start with" for the model force?

Daniel Garijo: didn't we compile a set of terms to "start with" for the model force?

16:01:34 <Luc_> ... we want to get this discussion going asap

... we want to get this discussion going asap

16:02:04 <Luc_> q?

q?

16:02:09 <Zakim> - +329331aakk

Zakim IRC Bot: - +329331aakk

16:02:12 <Luc_> q-

q-

16:02:15 <Luc_> q?

q?

16:02:58 <Luc_> Paulo: start model TF first, others after

Paulo Pinheiro da Silva: start model TF first, others after

16:03:06 <DanielGarijo> +1

Daniel Garijo: +1

16:03:17 <Luc_> pgroth: reaching out to other communities can also start immediately

Paul Groth: reaching out to other communities can also start immediately

16:03:28 <Luc_> Paulo: great if we can enumerate things that can go in parallel

Paulo Pinheiro da Silva: great if we can enumerate things that can go in parallel

16:03:36 <Satya> q+

Satya Sahoo: q+

16:03:42 <Luc_> q?

q?

16:03:43 <DanielGarijo> ack paulo

Daniel Garijo: ack paulo

16:04:07 <Satya> q-

Satya Sahoo: q-

16:04:09 <Luc_> Satya: breakdown in tasks would also be desirable

Satya Sahoo: breakdown in tasks would also be desirable

16:04:39 <Luc_> Jim McCusker: start with a base vocabulary, which is not model, but can help express queries

Jim McCusker: start with a base vocabulary, which is not model, but can help express queries

16:04:40 <smiles> q+

Simon Miles: q+

16:05:29 <Luc_> smiles: have you mapped deliverables to TF?

Simon Miles: have you mapped deliverables to TF?

16:05:49 <Luc_> pgroth: fairly direct mapping, but not final yet

Paul Groth: fairly direct mapping, but not final yet

16:06:37 <Luc_> pgroth: can you indicate (non binding) what you are interest in?

Paul Groth: can you indicate (non binding) what you are interest in?

16:06:43 <pgroth> 1. Model Task Force

Paul Groth: 1. Model Task Force

16:06:43 <JimMcCusker> -q

Jim McCusker: -q

16:06:44 <Satya> +1

Satya Sahoo: +1

16:06:46 <zednik> +1

Stephan Zednik: +1

16:06:47 <JimM> +1

Scribe problem: the name 'JimM' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Jim McCusker James Myers . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Scribe problem: the name 'JimM' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Jim McCusker James Myers . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Unknown JimM: +1

16:06:47 <jcheney> +1

James Cheney: +1

16:06:48 <JimMcCusker> q-

Jim McCusker: q-

16:06:48 <simoninireland> +1

Simon Dobson: +1

16:06:49 <Luc_> +1

+1

16:06:49 <DanielGarijo> +1

Daniel Garijo: +1

16:06:50 <jorn> +1

Jörn Hees: +1

16:06:51 <JimMcCusker> +1

Jim McCusker: +1

16:06:53 <CarlOGC> +1

Carl Reed: +1

16:06:59 <rpi-lebo> 0

Tim Lebo: 0

16:07:05 <Ed-UOA> +1

Edoardo Pignotti: +1

16:07:12 <pgroth> Access Task Force

Paul Groth: Access Task Force

16:07:16 <SamCoppens> +1

Sam Coppens: +1

16:07:16 <olaf> +1

Olaf Hartig: +1

16:07:17 <frew> +1

James Frew: +1

16:07:18 <DanielGarijo> +1

Daniel Garijo: +1

16:07:20 <Satya> +1

Satya Sahoo: +1

16:07:22 <khalidbelhajjame> +1

Khalid Belhajjame: +1

16:07:23 <jun> +1

Jun Zhao: +1

16:07:23 <Yogesh> +1

Yogesh Simmhan: +1

16:07:24 <jorn> +1

Jörn Hees: +1

16:07:25 <Lena> +1

Scribe problem: the name 'Lena' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Lena X Helena Deus . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Scribe problem: the name 'Lena' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Lena X Helena Deus . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Unknown Lena: +1

16:07:26 <rpi-lebo> +1

Tim Lebo: +1

16:07:27 <zednik> +1

Stephan Zednik: +1

16:07:33 <iker> +1

Iker Huerga: +1

16:07:42 <pgroth> Connection Task Force

Paul Groth: Connection Task Force

16:07:51 <YolandaGil> +1

Yolanda Gil: +1

16:07:52 <Satya> 0

Satya Sahoo: 0

16:07:55 <smiles> +1

Simon Miles: +1

16:07:55 <pgroth> eric +1

Paul Groth: eric +1

16:07:59 <Luc_> EricStephan: +1

Eric Stephan: +1

16:08:02 <paulo> +1

Paulo Pinheiro da Silva: +1

16:08:18 <paulo> +1 (for model)

Paulo Pinheiro da Silva: +1 (for model)

16:08:21 <pgroth> Implementation and Test Case Task Force

Paul Groth: Implementation and Test Case Task Force

16:08:26 <frew> +1

James Frew: +1

16:08:27 <zednik> +1

Stephan Zednik: +1

16:08:27 <Yogesh> +1

Yogesh Simmhan: +1

16:08:28 <Lena> +1

Scribe problem: the name 'Lena' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Lena X Helena Deus . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Scribe problem: the name 'Lena' is ambiguous. It could be any of: Lena X Helena Deus . Either change the name used or insert a 'PRESENT: ...' line to restrict the active names.

Unknown Lena: +1

16:08:28 <rpi-lebo> +1

Tim Lebo: +1

16:08:29 <smiles> +1

Simon Miles: +1

16:08:29 <simoninireland> +1

Simon Dobson: +1

16:08:30 <jun> +1

Jun Zhao: +1

16:08:31 <Ed-UOA> +1

Edoardo Pignotti: +1

16:08:31 <iker> +1

Iker Huerga: +1

16:08:32 <jcheney> +1

James Cheney: +1

16:08:36 <SamCoppens> +1

Sam Coppens: +1

16:08:53 <Luc_> pgroth: looks fairly evenly spread

Paul Groth: looks fairly evenly spread

16:09:02 <Luc_> q+

q+

16:09:38 <Luc_> Action: Luc_ to define task forces on wiki

ACTION: Luc_ to define task forces on wiki

16:09:38 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Luc_

Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - Luc_

16:10:11 <Luc_> Action: Luc to define task forces on wiki

ACTION: Luc to define task forces on wiki

16:10:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2 - Define task forces on wiki [on Luc Moreau - due 2011-05-05].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-2 - Define task forces on wiki [on Luc Moreau - due 2011-05-05].

16:10:14 <CarlOGC> quit

Carl Reed: quit

16:10:18 <pgroth> trackbot, end meeting

Paul Groth: trackbot, end meeting

16:10:18 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees

16:10:19 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes

16:10:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-minutes.html trackbot

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-minutes.html trackbot

16:10:20 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye

16:10:20 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-actions.rdf :

16:10:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: pgroth to make link to incubator group work [1]

ACTION: pgroth to make link to incubator group work [1]

16:10:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-irc#T16-00-17

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-irc#T16-00-17

16:10:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Luc_ to define task forces on wiki [2]

ACTION: Luc_ to define task forces on wiki [2]

16:10:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-irc#T16-09-38

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-irc#T16-09-38

16:10:20 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Luc to define task forces on wiki [3]

ACTION: Luc to define task forces on wiki [3]

16:10:20 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-irc#T16-10-11

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-prov-irc#T16-10-11



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