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16:45:10 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/04/09-owl-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/04/09-owl-irc ←
16:45:24 <jeremy_> Zakim, this will be OWL.
Jeremy Carroll: Zakim, this will be OWL. ←
16:45:24 <Zakim> ok, jeremy_; I see SW_OWL()12:00PM scheduled to start 45 minutes ago
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, jeremy_; I see SW_OWL()12:00PM scheduled to start 45 minutes ago ←
16:45:51 <jeremy_> scribenick: jeremy
(Scribe set to Jeremy Carroll)
16:55:29 <Zakim> SW_OWL()12:00PM has now started
(No events recorded for 9 minutes)
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_OWL()12:00PM has now started ←
16:55:36 <Zakim> + +0186527aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +0186527aaaa ←
16:55:53 <IanH> zakim, aaaa is IanH
Ian Horrocks: zakim, aaaa is IanH ←
16:55:53 <Zakim> +IanH; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +IanH; got it ←
16:56:55 <Zakim> +??P20
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P20 ←
16:57:02 <jeremy_> Zakim, ??P20 is me
Zakim, ??P20 is me ←
16:57:02 <Zakim> +jeremy_; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +jeremy_; got it ←
16:59:37 <jeremy_> scribenick: jeremy_
17:00:15 <Zakim> + +39.047.101.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +39.047.101.aabb ←
17:00:44 <Zakim> +??P34
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P34 ←
17:00:51 <bcuencagrau> Zakim, ??P34 is me
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: Zakim, ??P34 is me ←
17:00:51 <Zakim> +bcuencagrau; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bcuencagrau; got it ←
17:01:05 <bcuencagrau> Zakim, mute me
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: Zakim, mute me ←
17:01:05 <Zakim> bcuencagrau should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bcuencagrau should now be muted ←
17:01:12 <Zakim> + +1.202.408.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.408.aacc ←
17:01:28 <Zakim> + +1.603.897.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.603.897.aadd ←
17:01:40 <Zhe> Zakim, +1.603.897.aadd is me
Zhe Wu: Zakim, +1.603.897.aadd is me ←
17:01:41 <Zakim> +Zhe; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Zhe; got it ←
17:01:47 <jeremy_> If anyone knows how to change the title of the meeting in IRC please do so; it is out of date.
If anyone knows how to change the title of the meeting in IRC please do so; it is out of date. ←
17:02:10 <Ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
17:02:10 <Zakim> ok, Ivan; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Ivan; the call is being made ←
17:02:11 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
17:02:17 <msmith> msmith has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2008.04.09/Agenda
Michael Smith: msmith has changed the topic to: http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2008.04.09/Agenda ←
17:02:18 <Zakim> +Evan_Wallace
Zakim IRC Bot: +Evan_Wallace ←
17:02:29 <Zakim> + +0190827aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +0190827aaee ←
17:02:37 <MartinD> zakim, aaee is me
Martin Dzbor: zakim, aaee is me ←
17:02:37 <Zakim> +MartinD; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MartinD; got it ←
17:02:40 <jeremy_> thanks mike
thanks mike ←
17:02:46 <MartinD> zakim, mute me
Martin Dzbor: zakim, mute me ←
17:02:48 <Zakim> MartinD should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MartinD should now be muted ←
17:03:14 <IanH> zakim, who is here?
Ian Horrocks: zakim, who is here? ←
17:03:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see IanH, jeremy_, +39.047.101.aabb, bcuencagrau (muted), msmith, Zhe, Ivan, Evan_Wallace, MartinD (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see IanH, jeremy_, +39.047.101.aabb, bcuencagrau (muted), msmith, Zhe, Ivan, Evan_Wallace, MartinD (muted) ←
17:03:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see ewallace, Zhe, msmith, MartinD, Ivan, bcuencagrau, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeremy_, sandro, trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see ewallace, Zhe, msmith, MartinD, Ivan, bcuencagrau, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeremy_, sandro, trackbot-ng ←
17:03:48 <Ivan> zakim, aabb is Diego
Ivan Herman: zakim, aabb is Diego ←
17:03:48 <Zakim> +Diego; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Diego; got it ←
17:04:09 <jeremy_> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
17:04:09 <Zakim> jeremy_ should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: jeremy_ should now be muted ←
17:04:46 <Zakim> +Jonathan_Rees
Zakim IRC Bot: +Jonathan_Rees ←
17:05:15 <jeremy_> Zakim, unmute me
Zakim, unmute me ←
17:05:15 <Zakim> jeremy_ should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: jeremy_ should no longer be muted ←
17:05:41 <alanr> zakim, who am i
Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, who am i ←
17:05:41 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who am i', alanr
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who am i', alanr ←
17:05:44 <alanr> zakim, who am i?
Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, who am i? ←
17:05:44 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, alanr.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, alanr. ←
17:05:47 <IanH> zakim, who is here?
Ian Horrocks: zakim, who is here? ←
17:05:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see IanH, jeremy_, Diego, bcuencagrau (muted), msmith, Zhe, Ivan, Evan_Wallace, MartinD (muted), Jonathan_Rees
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see IanH, jeremy_, Diego, bcuencagrau (muted), msmith, Zhe, Ivan, Evan_Wallace, MartinD (muted), Jonathan_Rees ←
17:05:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see baojie, alanr, m_schnei, ewallace, Zhe, msmith, MartinD, Ivan, bcuencagrau, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeremy_, sandro, trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see baojie, alanr, m_schnei, ewallace, Zhe, msmith, MartinD, Ivan, bcuencagrau, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeremy_, sandro, trackbot-ng ←
17:05:50 <Zakim> + +1.512.342.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.512.342.aaff ←
17:06:00 <alanr> zakim, Jonathan_Rees is alanr
Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, Jonathan_Rees is alanr ←
17:06:00 <Zakim> +alanr; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +alanr; got it ←
17:06:06 <alanr> zakim, who is here?
Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, who is here? ←
17:06:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see IanH, jeremy_, Diego, bcuencagrau (muted), msmith, Zhe, Ivan, Evan_Wallace, MartinD (muted), alanr, +1.512.342.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see IanH, jeremy_, Diego, bcuencagrau (muted), msmith, Zhe, Ivan, Evan_Wallace, MartinD (muted), alanr, +1.512.342.aaff ←
17:06:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see baojie, alanr, m_schnei, ewallace, Zhe, msmith, MartinD, Ivan, bcuencagrau, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeremy_, sandro, trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see baojie, alanr, m_schnei, ewallace, Zhe, msmith, MartinD, Ivan, bcuencagrau, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeremy_, sandro, trackbot-ng ←
17:06:22 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
17:06:50 <Zakim> + +1.518.276.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.518.276.aagg ←
17:07:03 <alanr> zakim, who is here?
Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, who is here? ←
17:07:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see IanH, jeremy_, Diego, bcuencagrau (muted), msmith, Zhe, Ivan, Evan_Wallace, MartinD (muted), alanr, +1.512.342.aaff, Sandro, +1.518.276.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see IanH, jeremy_, Diego, bcuencagrau (muted), msmith, Zhe, Ivan, Evan_Wallace, MartinD (muted), alanr, +1.512.342.aaff, Sandro, +1.518.276.aagg ←
17:07:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see diegoc, DougL, baojie, alanr, m_schnei, ewallace, Zhe, msmith, MartinD, Ivan, bcuencagrau, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeremy_, sandro, trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see diegoc, DougL, baojie, alanr, m_schnei, ewallace, Zhe, msmith, MartinD, Ivan, bcuencagrau, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeremy_, sandro, trackbot-ng ←
17:07:17 <baojie> 1.518.276.aagg is baojie
Jie Bao: 1.518.276.aagg is baojie ←
17:07:30 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
17:07:32 <jeremy_> Zakim, aagg is baojie
Zakim, aagg is baojie ←
17:07:32 <Zakim> +baojie; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +baojie; got it ←
17:07:36 <Ivan> zakim, aagg is doug
Ivan Herman: zakim, aagg is doug ←
17:07:36 <Zakim> sorry, Ivan, I do not recognize a party named 'aagg'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Ivan, I do not recognize a party named 'aagg' ←
17:07:44 <jeremy_> Zakim, aaff is doug
Zakim, aaff is doug ←
17:07:44 <Zakim> +doug; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +doug; got it ←
17:07:47 <DougL> Zakim, aaff is me
Doug Lenat: Zakim, aaff is me ←
17:07:47 <Zakim> sorry, DougL, I do not recognize a party named 'aaff'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, DougL, I do not recognize a party named 'aaff' ←
17:07:55 <alanr> zakim, who is here?
Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, who is here? ←
17:07:55 <Zakim> On the phone I see IanH, jeremy_, Diego, bcuencagrau (muted), msmith, Zhe, Ivan, Evan_Wallace, MartinD (muted), alanr, doug, Sandro, baojie, [IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see IanH, jeremy_, Diego, bcuencagrau (muted), msmith, Zhe, Ivan, Evan_Wallace, MartinD (muted), alanr, doug, Sandro, baojie, [IPcaller] ←
17:07:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see diegoc, DougL, baojie, alanr, m_schnei, ewallace, Zhe, msmith, MartinD, Ivan, bcuencagrau, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeremy_, sandro, trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see diegoc, DougL, baojie, alanr, m_schnei, ewallace, Zhe, msmith, MartinD, Ivan, bcuencagrau, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeremy_, sandro, trackbot-ng ←
17:08:04 <jeremy_> Zakim, doug is DougL
Zakim, doug is DougL ←
17:08:04 <Zakim> +DougL; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +DougL; got it ←
17:08:08 <m_schnei> zakim, IPCaller is me
Michael Schneider: zakim, IPCaller is me ←
17:08:08 <Zakim> +m_schnei; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +m_schnei; got it ←
17:08:17 <m_schnei> zakim, mute me
Michael Schneider: zakim, mute me ←
17:08:17 <Zakim> m_schnei should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: m_schnei should now be muted ←
17:08:33 <jeremy_> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
17:08:33 <Zakim> jeremy_ should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: jeremy_ should now be muted ←
17:08:42 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
17:08:44 <Zakim> +??P15
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15 ←
17:08:50 <jeremy_> Minutes
Minutes ←
17:08:50 <IanH> I looked, they seem OK
Ian Horrocks: I looked, they seem OK ←
17:08:54 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: alanr (69%), Sandro (4%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: alanr (69%), Sandro (4%) ←
17:08:54 <diegoc> Zakim, mute me
Diego Calvanese: Zakim, mute me ←
17:08:57 <Zakim> sorry, diegoc, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, diegoc, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
17:08:59 <ewallace> Minutes look OK
Evan Wallace: Minutes look OK ←
17:08:59 <jeremy_> previous minutes proposed by chair (alan)
previous minutes proposed by chair (alan) ←
17:09:06 <alanr> +1
Alan Ruttenberg: +1 ←
17:09:08 <Ivan> zakim, diego is diegoc
Ivan Herman: zakim, diego is diegoc ←
17:09:08 <Zakim> +diegoc; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +diegoc; got it ←
17:09:09 <IanH> +1
Ian Horrocks: +1 ←
17:09:19 <DougL> +1
Doug Lenat: +1 ←
17:09:22 <jeremy_> http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2008.03.26/Minutes
http://www.w3.org/2007/OWL/wiki/Teleconference.2008.03.26/Minutes ←
17:09:24 <MartinD> +1
Martin Dzbor: +1 ←
17:09:29 <Zhe> +1
17:09:32 <jeremy_> RESOLVED: accept minutes
RESOLVED: accept minutes ←
17:09:36 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:09:53 <IanH> zakim, who is here?
Ian Horrocks: zakim, who is here? ←
17:09:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see IanH (muted), jeremy_ (muted), diegoc, bcuencagrau (muted), msmith, Zhe, Ivan, Evan_Wallace, MartinD (muted), alanr, DougL, Sandro (muted), baojie, m_schnei
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see IanH (muted), jeremy_ (muted), diegoc, bcuencagrau (muted), msmith, Zhe, Ivan, Evan_Wallace, MartinD (muted), alanr, DougL, Sandro (muted), baojie, m_schnei ←
17:09:57 <Zakim> ... (muted), ??P15
Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted), ??P15 ←
17:09:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see diegoc, DougL, baojie, alanr, m_schnei, ewallace, Zhe, msmith, MartinD, Ivan, bcuencagrau, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeremy_, sandro, trackbot-ng
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see diegoc, DougL, baojie, alanr, m_schnei, ewallace, Zhe, msmith, MartinD, Ivan, bcuencagrau, IanH, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeremy_, sandro, trackbot-ng ←
17:10:13 <alanr> zakim, ??P15 is ChristineG
Alan Ruttenberg: zakim, ??P15 is ChristineG ←
17:10:13 <Zakim> +ChristineG; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +ChristineG; got it ←
17:10:24 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:10:28 <m_schnei> what about raised issues?
Michael Schneider: what about raised issues? ←
17:10:31 <jeremy_> Alan: any questions or thoughts about F2F2?
Alan Ruttenberg: any questions or thoughts about F2F2? ←
17:11:15 <m_schnei> and all the new issues raised
Michael Schneider: and all the new issues raised ←
17:11:16 <IanH> q+
Ian Horrocks: q+ ←
17:11:22 <jeremy_> Alan: issues raised as a consequence of f2f business will be accepted.
Alan Ruttenberg: issues raised as a consequence of f2f business will be accepted. ←
17:11:24 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:11:36 <ewallace> Is there anything we need to talk about to fix publications?
Evan Wallace: Is there anything we need to talk about to fix publications? ←
17:11:42 <alanr> ack IanH
Alan Ruttenberg: ack IanH ←
17:11:46 <jeremy_> Ian: Sandro, what is the lastest position concerning publication.
Ian Horrocks: Sandro, what is the lastest position concerning publication. ←
17:12:02 <jeremy_> Sandro: needing go ahead from editors, otherwise OK
Sandro Hawke: needing go ahead from editors, otherwise OK ←
17:12:11 <jeremy_> Sandro: some editors being a bit silent.
Sandro Hawke: some editors being a bit silent. ←
17:12:22 <jeremy_> Ian: Boris is on holiday, so will be silent.
Ian Horrocks: Boris is on holiday, so will be silent. ←
17:12:33 <m_schnei> issues 112, 114, 115, 116 are *not* consequences of the f2f
Michael Schneider: issues 112, 114, 115, 116 are *not* consequences of the f2f ←
17:12:52 <jeremy_> Ian: Boris did his edits and left, and will not respond
Ian Horrocks: Boris did his edits and left, and will not respond ←
17:12:58 <Zhe> q+
17:13:09 <alanr> ack zhe
Alan Ruttenberg: ack zhe ←
17:13:43 <m_schnei> how long exactly is boris on vacation?
Michael Schneider: how long exactly is boris on vacation? ←
17:13:50 <Ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
17:13:59 <bcuencagrau> q+
17:14:07 <jeremy_> Zhe: asked question about intro to fragments/profiles
Zhe Wu: asked question about intro to fragments/profiles ←
17:14:19 <jeremy_> Zhe: the new three bullets ...
Zhe Wu: the new three bullets ... ←
17:14:49 <jeremy_> q+
q+ ←
17:15:02 <Ivan> ack Ivan
Ivan Herman: ack Ivan ←
17:15:10 <alanr> ack Ivan
Alan Ruttenberg: ack Ivan ←
17:15:23 <jeremy_> Chair: if Zhe is unhappy then we should delete this late change and leave editors note
Scribe problem: the name 'if Zhe is unhappy then we should delete this late change and leave editors note' does not match any of the 50 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Achille Fokoue Alan Ruttenberg Anne Cregan Bernardo Cuenca Grau Bijan Parsia Boris Motik Christine Golbreich Conrad Bock Deborah McGuinness Diego Calvanese Doug Lenat Elisa Kendall Enrico Franconi Evan Wallace Evren Sirin Fabian Neuhaus Fabien Gandon Giorgos Stamou Giorgos Stoilos Héctor Pérez Urbina Ian Horrocks Ivan Herman James Hendler Jeff Pan Jeremy Carroll Jie Bao Joanne Luciano Jonathan Rees Kendall Clark Markus Krötzsch Martin Dzbor Michael Sintek Michael Smith Michael Schneider Olivier Corby Pascal Hitzler Peter Haase Peter Patel-Schneider Ratnesh Sahay Rinke Hoekstra Sandro Hawke Steve Battle Suzette Stoutenburg Tommie Meyer Uli Sattler Vassilis Tzouvaras Vipul Kashyap Vit Novacek Vojtech Svatek Zhe Wu
17:15:24 <bcuencagrau> zakim, unmute me
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: zakim, unmute me ←
17:15:24 <Zakim> bcuencagrau should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bcuencagrau should no longer be muted ←
17:15:44 <alanr> ack bcuencagrau
Alan Ruttenberg: ack bcuencagrau ←
17:16:40 <alanr> ack jeremy_
Alan Ruttenberg: ack jeremy_ ←
17:17:00 <msmith> q+
Michael Smith: q+ ←
17:17:07 <Ivan> +1 to jeremy_
Ivan Herman: +1 to jeremy_ ←
17:17:08 <ewallace> Bernardo: I think there should be a small section in the primer discussing the profiles/fragments
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: I think there should be a small section in the primer discussing the profiles/fragments [ Scribe Assist by Evan Wallace ] ←
17:17:14 <Zhe> q+
17:17:18 <jeremy_> Bernardo: this could be in primer, and perhaps not in this doc
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: this could be in primer, and perhaps not in this doc ←
17:17:23 <jeremy_> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
17:17:23 <Zakim> jeremy_ should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: jeremy_ should now be muted ←
17:17:39 <jeremy_> in f2f
in f2f ←
17:17:42 <bcuencagrau> zakim, unmute me
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: zakim, unmute me ←
17:17:42 <Zakim> bcuencagrau was not muted, bcuencagrau
Zakim IRC Bot: bcuencagrau was not muted, bcuencagrau ←
17:17:51 <bcuencagrau> zakim, mute me
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: zakim, mute me ←
17:17:51 <Zakim> bcuencagrau should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bcuencagrau should now be muted ←
17:17:55 <jeremy_> Zakim, unmute me
Zakim, unmute me ←
17:17:55 <Zakim> jeremy_ should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: jeremy_ should no longer be muted ←
17:18:15 <IanH> Jeremy: I think that it is important to have these sentences even if they are said to be "non-consensus"
Jeremy Carroll: I think that it is important to have these sentences even if they are said to be "non-consensus" [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←
17:18:39 <IanH> Jeremy: Poor quality intro better than no content.
Jeremy Carroll: Poor quality intro better than no content. [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←
17:18:53 <IanH> Jeremy: could be put into an editors note
Jeremy Carroll: could be put into an editors note [ Scribe Assist by Ian Horrocks ] ←
17:18:56 <msmith> ?q
Michael Smith: ?q ←
17:18:57 <jeremy_> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
17:18:57 <Zakim> jeremy_ should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: jeremy_ should now be muted ←
17:19:00 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
17:19:10 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: alanr (44%), Sandro (4%), Zhe (27%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: alanr (44%), Sandro (4%), Zhe (27%) ←
17:20:12 <jeremy_> I will step back if Zhe is stubborn on this!
I will step back if Zhe is stubborn on this! ←
17:20:13 <bcuencagrau> +q
17:20:47 <jeremy_> q+
q+ ←
17:20:52 <IanH> q+
Ian Horrocks: q+ ←
17:21:02 <Zakim> +Peter_Patel-Schneider
Zakim IRC Bot: +Peter_Patel-Schneider ←
17:21:02 <jeremy_> Alan: Zhe can you suggest some repairs to this text?
Alan Ruttenberg: Zhe can you suggest some repairs to this text? ←
17:21:15 <msmith> q-
Michael Smith: q- ←
17:21:19 <Zhe> q-
17:21:20 <jeremy_> Zhe: but can the WG agree on any text in time.
Zhe Wu: but can the WG agree on any text in time. ←
17:21:21 <bcuencagrau> zakim, unmute me
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: zakim, unmute me ←
17:21:21 <Zakim> bcuencagrau should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: bcuencagrau should no longer be muted ←
17:21:30 <alanr> ack bcuencagrau
Alan Ruttenberg: ack bcuencagrau ←
17:21:44 <jeremy_> Bernardo: in the profiles doc there is quite a few things that need to be decided (non technical)
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: in the profiles doc there is quite a few things that need to be decided (non technical) ←
17:22:05 <jeremy_> Bernardo: the motivations relate to the names, we will need to discuss these issues
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: the motivations relate to the names, we will need to discuss these issues ←
17:22:29 <jeremy_> Bernardo: I think Carsten did a good job with the intro.
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: I think Carsten did a good job with the intro. ←
17:23:13 <jeremy_> Bernardo: we could drop last sentence of each bullet point "is suitable"
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: we could drop last sentence of each bullet point "is suitable" ←
17:23:33 <msmith> +1 to Berndardo's suggestion as a path forward
Michael Smith: +1 to Berndardo's suggestion as a path forward ←
17:23:49 <jeremy_> 0 to Bernardo
0 to Bernardo ←
17:23:49 <ewallace> +1 on Bernardo's suggestion
Evan Wallace: +1 on Bernardo's suggestion ←
17:23:55 <alanr> ack jeremy_
Alan Ruttenberg: ack jeremy_ ←
17:23:58 <Ivan> I think something should be present in both documents, actually
Ivan Herman: I think something should be present in both documents, actually ←
17:24:02 <sandro> PROPOSED: For now, drop the last sentence from each bullet point in Profile's Intro. All of the form "...is suitable for...".
PROPOSED: For now, drop the last sentence from each bullet point in Profile's Intro. All of the form "...is suitable for...". ←
17:24:20 <alanr> ack IanH
Alan Ruttenberg: ack IanH ←
17:24:20 <jeremy_> Zakim, mute me
Zakim, mute me ←
17:24:21 <Zakim> jeremy_ should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: jeremy_ should now be muted ←
17:24:37 <Zhe> q+
17:25:11 <alanr> ack Zhe
Alan Ruttenberg: ack Zhe ←
17:25:16 <jeremy_> Ian: Zhe are you happy with this proposed change.
Ian Horrocks: Zhe are you happy with this proposed change. ←
17:25:29 <jeremy_> Zhe: yes
17:25:32 <Ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
17:25:38 <alanr> ack Ivan
Alan Ruttenberg: ack Ivan ←
17:25:41 <sandro> Zhe: I like the intro, except for the "is suitable" sentences.
Zhe Wu: I like the intro, except for the "is suitable" sentences. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
17:25:52 <jeremy_> Ian: so we have consensus
Ian Horrocks: so we have consensus ←
17:26:01 <bcuencagrau> yes
Bernardo Cuenca Grau: yes ←
17:26:03 <sandro> PROPOSED: For now, drop the last sentence from each bullet point in Profile's Intro. All of the form "...is suitable for...".
PROPOSED: For now, drop the last sentence from each bullet point in Profile's Intro. All of the form "...is suitable for...". ←
17:26:08 <jeremy_> Ivan: I think we also agree that the editors note from Bijan should stay
Ivan Herman: I think we also agree that the editors note from Bijan should stay ←
17:26:11 <msmith> +1
Michael Smith: +1 ←
17:26:12 <jeremy_> 0
0 ←
17:26:12 <ewallace> +1
Evan Wallace: +1 ←
17:26:14 <Zhe> +1
17:26:14 <bcuencagrau> +1
17:26:15 <DougL> +1
Doug Lenat: +1 ←
17:26:15 <Ivan> +1
Ivan Herman: +1 ←
17:26:16 <alanr> +1
Alan Ruttenberg: +1 ←
17:26:17 <IanH> +1
Ian Horrocks: +1 ←
17:26:17 <m_schnei> 0
17:26:21 <MartinD> 0
Martin Dzbor: 0 ←
17:26:21 <sandro> PROPOSED: For now, drop the last sentence from each bullet point in Profile's Intro. All of the form "...is suitable for...". (And keep in editor's note from Bijan)
PROPOSED: For now, drop the last sentence from each bullet point in Profile's Intro. All of the form "...is suitable for...". (And keep in editor's note from Bijan) ←
17:26:21 <diegoc> +1
Diego Calvanese: +1 ←
17:26:24 <sandro> +0
Sandro Hawke: +0 ←
17:26:27 <pfps> +0
17:26:32 <baojie> +1
17:26:45 <sandro> RESOLVED: For now, drop the last sentence from each bullet point in Profile's Intro. All of the form "...is suitable for...". (And keep in editor's note from Bijan)
RESOLVED: For now, drop the last sentence from each bullet point in Profile's Intro. All of the form "...is suitable for...". (And keep in editor's note from Bijan) ←
17:26:48 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:27:00 <jeremy_> Sandro will implement this as part of publication
Sandro will implement this as part of publication ←
17:27:01 <Ivan> q+
Ivan Herman: q+ ←
17:27:20 <alanr> ack Ivan
Alan Ruttenberg: ack Ivan ←
17:27:32 <jeremy_> Ivan: question to Zhe, I found some small bugs in the rules
Ivan Herman: question to Zhe, I found some small bugs in the rules ←
17:27:40 <jeremy_> Zhe: I have fixed these
17:27:41 <alanr> where can I find sotd
Alan Ruttenberg: where can I find sotd ←
17:27:43 <IanH> q+
Ian Horrocks: q+ ←
17:27:46 <alanr> ack IanH
Alan Ruttenberg: ack IanH ←
17:27:47 <jeremy_> Zhe: (the typed triple)
17:28:01 <ewallace> Have to go. Thanks again to chairs for a productive WG F2F in DC. Bye.
Evan Wallace: Have to go. Thanks again to chairs for a productive WG F2F in DC. Bye. ←
17:28:09 <Zakim> -Evan_Wallace
Zakim IRC Bot: -Evan_Wallace ←
17:28:10 <jeremy_> Ian: The XML Serialization and Primer have bolier plate abstract
Ian Horrocks: The XML Serialization and Primer have bolier plate abstract ←
17:28:24 <msmith> I believe zhe removed in response to Carsten?
Michael Smith: I believe zhe removed in response to Carsten? ←
17:28:33 <jeremy_> Ian: The profiles doc has no boiler plate, but has editor's note
Ian Horrocks: The profiles doc has no boiler plate, but has editor's note ←
17:28:49 <Zhe> I think Carsten asked for it
Zhe Wu: I think Carsten asked for it ←
17:28:50 <jeremy_> Sandro: they all were the same, but someone complained
Sandro Hawke: they all were the same, but someone complained ←
17:28:53 <pfps> one can see who by looking at the history
Peter Patel-Schneider: one can see who by looking at the history ←
17:28:55 <Zhe> Then Jie did the action
Zhe Wu: Then Jie did the action ←
17:28:59 <jeremy_> Alan: let's take this off line
Alan Ruttenberg: let's take this off line ←
17:29:01 <m_schnei> same bug in xml: its not in the sources
Michael Schneider: same bug in xml: its not in the sources ←
17:29:08 <Zhe> q+
17:29:13 <jeremy_> Ian: not a huge issue, but a surprise
Ian Horrocks: not a huge issue, but a surprise ←
17:29:23 <alanr> ack Zhe
Alan Ruttenberg: ack Zhe ←
17:29:27 <IanH> q?
Ian Horrocks: q? ←
17:29:35 <jeremy_> Zhe: regarding abstract. Carsten added abstract.
Zhe Wu: regarding abstract. Carsten added abstract. ←
17:29:45 <m_schnei> zhe knows how to fix it - so fix it :)
Michael Schneider: zhe knows how to fix it - so fix it :) ←
17:29:49 <jeremy_> Zhe: & he thought boiler plate no longer needed
Zhe Wu: & he thought boiler plate no longer needed ←
17:30:05 <jeremy_> Zhe: and I think Jie did it
Zhe Wu: and I think Jie did it ←
17:30:23 <jeremy_> Ian: but it was agreed at some point that the boiler plate should be in all docs
Ian Horrocks: but it was agreed at some point that the boiler plate should be in all docs ←
17:30:31 <msmith> email confirming that description http://www.w3.org/mid/b6b357670804081149q7f677748l69bcbc3592287a67@mail.gmail.com
Michael Smith: email confirming that description http://www.w3.org/mid/b6b357670804081149q7f677748l69bcbc3592287a67@mail.gmail.com ←
17:30:42 <jeremy_> Ian: in case a reader came to this doc first ....
Ian Horrocks: in case a reader came to this doc first .... ←
17:30:50 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:30:52 <jeremy_> Alan: Sandro, can you fix this?
Alan Ruttenberg: Sandro, can you fix this? ←
17:30:59 <Zhe> m_schnei, I don't know how to do it
Zhe Wu: m_schnei, I don't know how to do it ←
17:31:01 <Zhe> sorry
17:31:01 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:31:06 <jeremy_> Ian: I will sort it now.
Ian Horrocks: I will sort it now. ←
17:31:22 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:31:50 <jeremy_> Alan: are we frozen now, modulo changes discussed now.
Alan Ruttenberg: are we frozen now, modulo changes discussed now. ←
17:31:57 <jeremy_> Sandro: three sentences have gone
Sandro Hawke: three sentences have gone ←
17:31:57 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:32:03 <alanr> q?
Alan Ruttenberg: q? ←
17:32:03 <jeremy_> Ian: abstract is changing now
Ian Horrocks: abstract is changing now ←
17:32:24 <IanH> Abstract now restored to its former glory :-)
Ian Horrocks: Abstract now restored to its former glory :-) ←
17:32:26 <jeremy_> Alan: Sandro, do you need anything?
Alan Ruttenberg: Sandro, do you need anything? ←
17:32:35 <jeremy_> Sandro: no ....
Sandro Hawke: no .... ←
17:32:50 <jeremy_> Sandro: do we want a comment date?
Sandro Hawke: do we want a comment date? ←
17:33:30 <jeremy_> Sandro: let's go for four weeks
Sandro Hawke: let's go for four weeks ←
17:33:37 <jeremy_> Ivan: which mailing list for comments
Ivan Herman: which mailing list for comments ←
17:33:43 <jeremy_> Sandro: public-owl-comments
Sandro Hawke: public-owl-comments ←
17:33:57 <jeremy_> Alan: UFDTF for Monday
Alan Ruttenberg: UFDTF for Monday ←
17:34:06 <jeremy_> Alan: subject will be requirements doc
Alan Ruttenberg: subject will be requirements doc ←
17:34:11 <jeremy_> Alan: Evan will work on this
Alan Ruttenberg: Evan will work on this ←
17:34:26 <jeremy_> Alan: please send disiderata to requirements doc to list
Alan Ruttenberg: please send disiderata to requirements doc to list ←
17:34:44 <jeremy_> Alan: we want to narrowly address what justifies current spec
Alan Ruttenberg: we want to narrowly address what justifies current spec ←
17:34:52 <jeremy_> Alan: largely a historical process
Alan Ruttenberg: largely a historical process ←
17:35:16 <jeremy_> Alan: last call before adjournment
Alan Ruttenberg: last call before adjournment ←
17:35:44 <jeremy_> Alan: thanks to everyone
Alan Ruttenberg: thanks to everyone ←
17:36:05 <IanH> Yes, thanks from me too!
Ian Horrocks: Yes, thanks from me too! ←
17:36:11 <Zhe> bye
17:36:12 <jeremy_> Alan: adjourn
Alan Ruttenberg: adjourn ←
17:36:13 <Zakim> -DougL
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17:36:16 <Zakim> -MartinD
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17:36:20 <m_schnei> bye
Michael Schneider: bye ←
17:36:20 <diegoc> bye
Diego Calvanese: bye ←
17:36:20 <Zakim> -msmith
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17:36:27 <Zakim> -bcuencagrau
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17:36:29 <Zakim> -jeremy_
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17:36:32 <Zakim> -m_schnei
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17:36:34 <Zakim> -Ivan
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17:36:53 <Zakim> Attendees were +0186527aaaa, IanH, jeremy_, +39.047.101.aabb, bcuencagrau, +1.202.408.aacc, msmith, Zhe, Ivan, Evan_Wallace, +0190827aaee, MartinD, +1.512.342.aaff, alanr, Sandro,
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17:36:56 <Zakim> ... +1.518.276.aagg, baojie, DougL, m_schnei, diegoc, ChristineG, Peter_Patel-Schneider
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.518.276.aagg, baojie, DougL, m_schnei, diegoc, ChristineG, Peter_Patel-Schneider ←
17:37:14 <jeremy_> RRSAgent, pointer
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17:37:14 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2008/04/09-owl-irc#T17-37-14
RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2008/04/09-owl-irc#T17-37-14 ←
17:37:22 <jeremy_> RRSAgent, make logs public
RRSAgent, make logs public ←
17:38:15 <jeremy_> rrsagent, please format the minutes
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17:38:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/04/09-owl-minutes.html jeremy_
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