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Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 15 June 2015

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2015.06.15
Present
Arnaud Le Hors, Pierre-Antoine Champin, Ashok Malhotra, Ted Thibodeau, Roger Menday, Andrei Sambra, Henry Story
Chair
Arnaud Le Hors
Scribe
Roger Menday
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Approve the minutes of the 1 June teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-06-01 link
Topics
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13:56:03 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP

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13:56:03 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes

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13:56:04 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:56:04 <trackbot> Date: 15 June 2015
13:59:50 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started

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13:59:57 <Zakim> +Arnaud

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14:00:43 <Zakim> + +33.6.66.52.aaaa

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14:00:51 <pchampin> zakim, aaaa is me

Pierre-Antoine Champin: zakim, aaaa is me

14:00:51 <Zakim> +pchampin; got it

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14:00:57 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra

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14:02:30 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

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14:02:40 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

14:02:40 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it

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14:02:42 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

14:02:42 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted

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14:05:34 <Zakim> +Roger

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14:05:54 <Zakim> + +33.6.38.32.aabb

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14:06:02 <Zakim> +deiu

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14:06:44 <roger> scribe: Roger

(Scribe set to Roger Menday)

<roger> chair: Arnaud
<roger> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2015.06.15
<roger> Topic: Admin

1. Admin

14:06:56 <bblfish> zakim, aabb is me

Henry Story: zakim, aabb is me

14:06:56 <Zakim> +bblfish; got it

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14:07:12 <Arnaud> Proposal: Approve the minutes of the 1 June teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-06-01

PROPOSED: Approve the minutes of the 1 June teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-06-01

14:07:28 <Arnaud> Resolved: Approve the minutes of the 1 June teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-06-01

RESOLVED: Approve the minutes of the 1 June teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-06-01

14:07:39 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ashok_Malhotra

14:07:56 <roger> Next meeting 29th June

Next meeting 29th June

14:08:14 <deiu> Action-162?

Andrei Sambra: ACTION-162?

14:08:14 <trackbot> Action-162 -- Robert Sanderson to Send implementation comparison to public list -- due 2015-04-28 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-162 -- Robert Sanderson to Send implementation comparison to public list -- due 2015-04-28 -- OPEN

14:08:14 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/162

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/162

14:08:40 <roger> Topic: Paging

2. Paging

14:09:04 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra

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14:10:02 <roger> In previous call we agreed to making a WG note from LDP paging.

In previous call we agreed to making a WG note from LDP paging.

14:10:46 <roger> After a few more updates to status section, it will be good to go.

After a few more updates to status section, it will be good to go.

14:12:25 <roger> Topic: LD Patch

3. LD Patch

14:13:59 <roger> Alexandre is trying to clarify the legal status of his LD patch implementation

Alexandre is trying to clarify the legal status of his LD patch implementation

14:14:31 <roger> once done this can progress us beyond CR

once done this can progress us beyond CR

14:16:11 <roger> it is much better to do this before the charter expires

it is much better to do this before the charter expires

14:16:24 <roger> Topic: LDPNext

4. LDPNext

14:17:45 <deiu> q+

Andrei Sambra: q+

14:18:25 <roger> At the moment the support for the next version of LDP is a bit lacklustre

At the moment the support for the next version of LDP is a bit lacklustre

14:19:49 <bblfish> q+

Henry Story: q+

14:19:50 <Arnaud> ack deiu

Arnaud Le Hors: ack deiu

14:21:02 <roger> deiu suggests a community group.

deiu suggests a community group.

14:21:51 <roger> to get the tools and framework to continue working, but without the some of formalities

to get the tools and framework to continue working, but without the some of formalities

14:22:18 <deiu> I think it's 10 people that have to OK it

Andrei Sambra: I think it's 10 people that have to OK it

14:24:20 <roger> Arnaud says there is a way to progress to a recommendation track - which takes care of patent policy.

Arnaud says there is a way to progress to a recommendation track - which takes care of patent policy.

14:24:28 <Arnaud> ack bblfish

Arnaud Le Hors: ack bblfish

14:26:06 <Ashok> q+

Ashok Malhotra: q+

14:26:20 <roger> bblfish suggests building a list of interested names. We could move to a CG if the interest isn't too high. The CG could be useful for a transition phase.

bblfish suggests building a list of interested names. We could move to a CG if the interest isn't too high. The CG could be useful for a transition phase.

14:28:18 <Arnaud> ack Ashok

Arnaud Le Hors: ack Ashok

14:28:23 <roger> Arnaud encourages everyone to express their endorsement / support of LDPNext by dropping an email to the mailing list

Arnaud encourages everyone to express their endorsement / support of LDPNext by dropping an email to the mailing list

14:28:49 <bblfish> Arnaud pointed out that the best way would be if all members expressed support on the public mailing list to the e-mail about the Working Group chater.

Henry Story: Arnaud pointed out that the best way would be if all members expressed support on the public mailing list to the e-mail about the Working Group chater.

14:29:48 <bblfish> So we should answer this e-mail: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp/2015May/0007.html with +1's ?

Henry Story: So we should answer this e-mail: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp/2015May/0007.html with +1's ?

14:29:57 <bblfish> q+

Henry Story: q+

14:30:03 <deiu> bblfish, that would be a good start

Andrei Sambra: bblfish, that would be a good start

14:30:28 <Arnaud> ack bblfish

Arnaud Le Hors: ack bblfish

14:30:46 <roger> Ashok suggested that we could spin-off some of the specs to other working groups.

Ashok suggested that we could spin-off some of the specs to other working groups.

14:30:54 <roger> (right Ashok ?)

(right Ashok ?)

14:31:25 <Ashok> Yes, Roger, as a last resort!

Ashok Malhotra: Yes, Roger, as a last resort!

14:32:00 <roger> bblfish requests a vote because silence isn't considered as endorsement in this case.

bblfish requests a vote because silence isn't considered as endorsement in this case.

14:32:46 <bblfish> In fact we did quite a lot of work on the WebID CG ( well it's an XG too ) http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/spec/

Henry Story: In fact we did quite a lot of work on the WebID CG ( well it's an XG too ) http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/spec/

14:33:03 <roger> all - bblfish makes a good suggestion.

all - bblfish makes a good suggestion.

14:34:05 <bblfish> q?

Henry Story: q?

14:34:14 <roger> Arnaud adds another voice to the CG is a

Arnaud adds another voice to the CG is a

14:36:25 <roger> ... transitory way of organising ourselves whilst we build ourselves up to a WG

... transitory way of organising ourselves whilst we build ourselves up to a WG

14:36:40 <roger> Topic: AOB

5. AOB

14:37:31 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me

14:37:31 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted

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14:37:36 <TallTed> q+

Ted Thibodeau: q+

14:37:58 <roger> Annotations WG is using LDP, but. they are defaulting to JSON-LD, rather than turtle.

Annotations WG is using LDP, but. they are defaulting to JSON-LD, rather than turtle.

14:38:24 <Arnaud> ack TallTed

Arnaud Le Hors: ack TallTed

14:39:08 <deiu> +1 TallTed

Andrei Sambra: +1 TallTed

14:39:25 <bblfish> q+

Henry Story: q+

14:40:13 <roger> TallTed suggests that the default document type should be HTML - not JSON-LD or turtle, or ..

TallTed suggests that the default document type should be HTML - not JSON-LD or turtle, or ..

14:41:04 <Arnaud> ack bblfish

Arnaud Le Hors: ack bblfish

14:49:13 <roger>  lots of discussion about JSON, JSON-LD, ActivityStreams, etc ...

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lots of discussion about JSON, JSON-LD, ActivityStreams, etc ...

14:50:00 <roger> one thing to note is that we should think about updating the MUST statements about turtle in LDP in a future publishing

one thing to note is that we should think about updating the MUST statements about turtle in LDP in a future publishing

14:51:27 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

14:51:27 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted

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14:51:28 <bblfish> https://github.com/linkeddata/SoLiD/issues/30

Henry Story: https://github.com/linkeddata/SoLiD/issues/30

14:52:16 <deiu> q+

Andrei Sambra: q+

14:52:25 <deiu> q-

Andrei Sambra: q-

14:53:01 <Zakim> -TallTed

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14:53:02 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra

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14:53:02 <Zakim> -bblfish

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14:53:03 <Zakim> -deiu

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14:53:03 <Zakim> -pchampin

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14:53:04 <Zakim> -Arnaud

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14:53:10 <Zakim> -Roger

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14:53:10 <Arnaud> trackbot, end meeting

Arnaud Le Hors: trackbot, end meeting

14:53:10 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees

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14:53:11 <roger> bblfish suggested a pattern of creation using PUT of a temporary resource (and then I didn't understand the rest Henry ....)

bblfish suggested a pattern of creation using PUT of a temporary resource (and then I didn't understand the rest Henry ....)

14:53:11 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended

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14:53:11 <Zakim> Attendees were Arnaud, +33.6.66.52.aaaa, pchampin, Ashok_Malhotra, TallTed, Roger, +33.6.38.32.aabb, deiu, bblfish

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Arnaud, +33.6.66.52.aaaa, pchampin, Ashok_Malhotra, TallTed, Roger, +33.6.38.32.aabb, deiu, bblfish

<roger> present: Arnaud, pchampin, Ashok_Malhotra, TallTed, Roger, deiu, bblfish
14:53:11 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is

14:53:18 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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14:53:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/06/15-ldp-minutes.html trackbot

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14:53:19 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye

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14:53:19 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

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