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Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 13 April 2015

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2015.04.13
Present
Andrei Sambra, Arnaud Le Hors, Pierre-Antoine Champin, Ashok Malhotra, Cody Burleson, Miguel Aragón, Sandro Hawke, Ted Thibodeau, Eric Prud'hommeaux
Chair
Arnaud Le Hors
Scribe
Pierre-Antoine Champin
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Approve the minutes of the 30 March teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-03-30 link
Topics
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14:00:45 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public

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14:00:47 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDPs

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14:00:47 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see SW_LDP()10:00AM already started

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14:00:48 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:00:48 <trackbot> Date: 13 April 2015
14:01:10 <Zakim> +Arnaud

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14:01:29 <Ashok> zakim, IPCaller is me

Ashok Malhotra: zakim, IPCaller is me

14:01:29 <Zakim> +Ashok; got it

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14:01:33 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:01:41 <CodyB> Zakim, IPcaller is me.

Cody Burleson: Zakim, IPcaller is me.

14:01:41 <Zakim> +CodyB; got it

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14:03:36 <MiguelAraCo> Zakim, I'm with CodyB

Miguel Aragón: Zakim, I'm with CodyB

14:03:36 <Zakim> +MiguelAraCo; got it

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14:05:00 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

<pchampin> scribe: pchampin

(Scribe set to Pierre-Antoine Champin)

<pchampin> chair: Arnaud
<pchampin> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2015.04.13
14:05:34 <pchampin> topic: Admin

1. Admin

14:05:36 <Arnaud> Proposal: Approve the minutes of the 30 March teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-03-30

PROPOSED: Approve the minutes of the 30 March teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-03-30

14:05:51 <Arnaud> Resolved: Approve the minutes of the 30 March teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-03-30

RESOLVED: Approve the minutes of the 30 March teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-03-30

14:06:10 <pchampin> arnaud: next call on the 27th of April

Arnaud Le Hors: next call on the 27th of April

14:06:39 <pchampin> arnaud: we only have one open action, to Erik, who is not here.

Arnaud Le Hors: we only have one open action, to ericP, who is not here.

14:07:05 <pchampin> ... I don't know if he did it.

... I don't know if he did it.

14:07:38 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software

14:07:42 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

14:07:42 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +TallTed; got it

14:07:44 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

14:07:44 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted

14:07:56 <TallTed> s/Erik/ericP/
14:07:59 <pchampin> ashok: Andrei and I have done most of it

Ashok Malhotra: Andrei and I have done most of it

14:08:21 <pchampin> arnaud: ok, I'll close the action

Arnaud Le Hors: ok, I'll close the action

14:08:29 <pchampin> topic: Paging

2. Paging

14:08:53 <pchampin> arnaud: I was hoping Rob would be here to talk about caching and paging.

Arnaud Le Hors: I was hoping Rob would be here to talk about caching and paging.

14:09:07 <pchampin> ... Let's see if he comes later during the call.

... Let's see if he comes later during the call.

14:09:15 <pchampin> topic: LD Patch

3. LD Patch

14:09:24 <pchampin> arnaud: we have a spec, we have a test suite

Arnaud Le Hors: we have a spec, we have a test suite

14:09:35 <Arnaud> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/tip/tests/ldpatch/reports/ldpatch.html

Arnaud Le Hors: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/tip/tests/ldpatch/reports/ldpatch.html

14:09:44 <pchampin> ... Pierre-Antoine considers that the test suite is more or less complete

... Pierre-Antoine considers that the test suite is more or less complete

14:11:21 <pchampin> ... Why don't we have implementation reports yet?

... Why don't we have implementation reports yet?

14:11:40 <pchampin> pchampin: my implementation does pass the tests, I just have to publish the report

Pierre-Antoine Champin: my implementation does pass the tests, I just have to publish the report

14:12:17 <pchampin> arnaud: Alexandre has changed job recently, he has an implementation, but I don't know how far he is in passing the tests

Arnaud Le Hors: Alexandre has changed job recently, he has an implementation, but I don't know how far he is in passing the tests

14:12:25 <pchampin> ... Anyone else with an implementation?

... Anyone else with an implementation?

14:13:07 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me

14:13:07 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted

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14:13:30 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

14:13:30 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted

14:13:32 <pchampin> tallted: an implementation should be coming from OpenLink, but no timeframe

Ted Thibodeau: an implementation should be coming from OpenLink, but no timeframe

14:13:56 <pchampin> asholk: I asked some people at Oracle, they answered "not quite yet"

Ashok Malhotra: I asked some people at Oracle, they answered "not quite yet"

14:14:23 <pchampin> s/asholk/ashok/
14:14:44 <pchampin> topic: LDP Primer

4. LDP Primer

14:15:11 <pchampin> arnaud: we agreed to publish it as a note, and Nandana agreed to do it

Arnaud Le Hors: we agreed to publish it as a note, and Nandana agreed to do it

14:15:29 <pchampin> ... but he has not finished yet

... but he has not finished yet

14:15:58 <pchampin> topic: Workshop

5. Workshop

14:16:01 <pchampin> arnaud: it is next week

Arnaud Le Hors: it is next week

14:16:21 <pchampin> ... thanks to Andrei for advertising it on different channels

... thanks to Andrei for advertising it on different channels

14:16:51 <pchampin> ashok: we only got one very brief submission

Ashok Malhotra: we only got one very brief submission

14:17:35 <pchampin> ... a lot of people have different ideas about what linked data is or should be

... a lot of people have different ideas about what linked data is or should be

14:17:45 <pchampin> ... that should generate informal discussion

... that should generate informal discussion

14:18:15 <pchampin> sandro: is there any plan to allow remote participation?

Sandro Hawke: is there any plan to allow remote participation?

14:18:54 <pchampin> ashok: that will be hard; no telephone, and internet connexion will be charged

Ashok Malhotra: that will be hard; no telephone, and internet connexion will be charged

14:19:32 <Zakim> +ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericP

14:21:49 <Arnaud> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2015Apr/0000.html

Arnaud Le Hors: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2015Apr/0000.html

14:23:36 <pchampin> topic: Paging (continues)

6. Paging (continues)

<pchampin> Arnaud: back to Rob's question about caching and paging

Arnaud Le Hors: back to Rob's question about caching and paging

14:24:34 <pchampin> ericp: a HTTP cache should store cached response with a few header values

Eric Prud'hommeaux: a HTTP cache should store cached response with a few header values

14:24:54 <pchampin> ... the Vary header is here to specify which headers should be used

... the Vary header is here to specify which headers should be used

14:25:34 <pchampin> arnaud: should we says something in the spec?

Arnaud Le Hors: should we says something in the spec?

14:27:06 <pchampin> sandro: I think that 'prefer' is by default used in cache, so 'vary: prefer' would be redundant

Sandro Hawke: I think that 'prefer' is by default used in cache, so 'vary: prefer' would be redundant

14:28:56 <pchampin> ericp: RFC7240 states that "a Vary header field MUST be    included in the response listing the Prefer header field"

Eric Prud'hommeaux: RFC7240 states that "a Vary header field MUST be included in the response listing the Prefer header field"

14:29:16 <pchampin> ... which is good, because we can just remind that fact without normatively changing anything in LDP

... which is good, because we can just remind that fact without normatively changing anything in LDP

14:30:04 <pchampin> ... (as the constraint was already implicitly inherited from RFC7240)

... (as the constraint was already implicitly inherited from RFC7240)

14:32:33 <pchampin> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7240

http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7240

14:36:04 <pchampin> arnaud: the two editors are gone, so I'm relunctant to go and modify the document

Arnaud Le Hors: the two editors are gone, so I'm relunctant to go and modify the document

14:36:27 <pchampin> ... let's reply to Rob and see what he thinks

... let's reply to Rob and see what he thinks

14:37:03 <Zakim> -TallTed

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14:37:05 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

14:37:10 <pchampin> arnaud: ADJOURNED

Arnaud Le Hors: ADJOURNED

14:37:14 <Zakim> -CodyB

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14:37:16 <Zakim> -deiu

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14:37:17 <Arnaud> trackbot, end meeting

Arnaud Le Hors: trackbot, end meeting

14:37:17 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees

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14:37:18 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +33.6.66.52.aaaa, deiu, Arnaud, pchampin, Ashok, CodyB, MiguelAraCo, Sandro, TallTed, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been +33.6.66.52.aaaa, deiu, Arnaud, pchampin, Ashok, CodyB, MiguelAraCo, Sandro, TallTed, ericP

<pchampin> present: deiu, Arnaud, pchampin, Ashok, CodyB, MiguelAraCo, Sandro, TallTed, ericP
14:37:19 <Zakim> -ericP

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14:37:21 <Zakim> -Arnaud

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14:37:25 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

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14:37:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/04/13-ldp-minutes.html trackbot

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14:37:26 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye

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14:37:26 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

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