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Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 09 February 2015

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2015.02.09
Present
Robert Sanderson, Arnaud Le Hors, Ashok Malhotra, Steve Speicher, Andrei Sambra, Cody Burleson, Miguel Aragón, Ted Thibodeau, Sandro Hawke, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya, Eric Prud'hommeaux, Henry Story
Chair
Arnaud Le Hors
Scribe
Andrei Sambra
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Approve the minutes of the 26 January teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-01-26 link
  2. Close Action-154 link
  3. Accept conformance section with "server" instead of "engine" and "parsing" instead of "reading" link
Topics
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14:59:18 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP

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14:59:19 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:59:19 <trackbot> Date: 09 February 2015
14:59:25 <Zakim> +azaroth

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14:59:59 <Zakim> +Arnaud

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15:00:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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15:00:12 <Zakim> +Steve_Speicher

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steve_Speicher

15:00:21 <Ashok> zakim, [ is me

Ashok Malhotra: zakim, [ is me

15:00:21 <Zakim> +Ashok; got it

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15:00:21 <SteveS> zakim, Steve_Speicher is me

Steve Speicher: zakim, Steve_Speicher is me

15:00:24 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it

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15:00:27 <Zakim> +deiu

Zakim IRC Bot: +deiu

15:01:01 <deiu> scribenick: deiu

(Scribe set to Andrei Sambra)

<deiu> chair: Arnaud
<deiu> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2015.02.09
15:03:21 <azaroth> zakim, who is here?

Robert Sanderson: zakim, who is here?

15:03:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see azaroth, Arnaud, Ashok, SteveS, deiu

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see azaroth, Arnaud, Ashok, SteveS, deiu

15:03:23 <Zakim> On IRC I see cburleson, TallTed, Zakim, RRSAgent, azaroth, Ashok, bblfish__, MiguelAraCo, nmihindu, deiu, betehess, SteveS, jmvanel, Arnaud, tommorris_, sandro, Yves, ericP,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see cburleson, TallTed, Zakim, RRSAgent, azaroth, Ashok, bblfish__, MiguelAraCo, nmihindu, deiu, betehess, SteveS, jmvanel, Arnaud, tommorris_, sandro, Yves, ericP,

15:03:23 <Zakim> ... trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot

15:03:52 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:04:00 <cburleson> Zakim, IPcaller is me.

Cody Burleson: Zakim, IPcaller is me.

15:04:00 <Zakim> +cburleson; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cburleson; got it

15:04:10 <SteveS> Zakim, what is Arnaud?

Steve Speicher: Zakim, what is Arnaud?

15:04:10 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, SteveS.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, SteveS.

15:04:37 <cburleson> Zakim, MiguelAraCo is with me.

Cody Burleson: Zakim, MiguelAraCo is with me.

15:04:37 <Zakim> +MiguelAraCo; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MiguelAraCo; got it

15:05:09 <Zakim> + +1.617.838.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.838.aaaa

15:05:14 <TallTed> Zakim, aaaa is me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, aaaa is me

15:05:14 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +TallTed; got it

15:05:16 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

15:05:16 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted

15:06:45 <bblfish__> hi

Henry Story: hi

15:07:07 <bblfish__> hi I am in train, internet is up and down

Henry Story: hi I am in train, internet is up and down

15:07:16 <deiu> Topic: Admin

1. Admin

15:07:22 <Arnaud>  Proposal: Approve the minutes of the 26 January teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-01-26

Arnaud Le Hors: Proposal: Approve the minutes of the 26 January teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-01-26

15:07:47 <Arnaud> Resolvedl: Approve the minutes of the 26 January teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-01-26

RESOLVED: Approve the minutes of the 26 January teleconf: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2015-01-26

15:07:56 <Arnaud> s/Resolvedl/Resolved/
15:08:08 <deiu> Arnaud: we’ll be meeting again next week

Arnaud Le Hors: we’ll be meeting again next week

15:08:24 <deiu> … or wait, we can’t meet next week (I’m flying out)

… or wait, we can’t meet next week (I’m flying out)

15:08:33 <bblfish__> what is the agenda?

Henry Story: what is the agenda?

15:08:39 <deiu> …how about we meet in 2 weeks

…how about we meet in 2 weeks

15:09:13 <deiu> …does anyone else want to hold (chair) the meeting?

…does anyone else want to hold (chair) the meeting?

15:09:23 <SteveS> Feb 16th is a US national holiday but I’ll be at work

Steve Speicher: Feb 16th is a US national holiday but I’ll be at work

15:09:44 <deiu> Arnaud: that would be Feb 23th (skipping next week)

Arnaud Le Hors: that would be Feb 23th (skipping next week)

15:09:55 <deiu> …any problems with that?

…any problems with that?

15:10:19 <deiu> Topic: Tracking of actions & issues

2. Tracking of actions & issues

15:10:30 <deiu> Arnaud: there are several actions opened

Arnaud Le Hors: there are several actions opened

15:10:50 <deiu> q+ about Action-154

q+ about ACTION-154

15:11:02 <deiu> errr

errr

15:11:07 <Arnaud> ack deiu

Arnaud Le Hors: ack deiu

15:11:15 <Arnaud> queue=

Arnaud Le Hors: queue=

15:11:57 <deiu> deiu: we have taken care of Action-154

Andrei Sambra: we have taken care of ACTION-154

15:12:08 <deiu> Arnaud: the link betehess sent us confuses me

Arnaud Le Hors: the link betehess sent us confuses me

15:12:29 <Arnaud> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/ldpatch/ldpatch.html#conformance

Arnaud Le Hors: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/ldpatch/ldpatch.html#conformance

15:12:37 <deiu> Arnaud: Ok, I got it

Arnaud Le Hors: Ok, I got it

15:12:41 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

15:12:44 <deiu> …we can close the action

…we can close the action

<deiu> Resolved: Close Action-154

RESOLVED: Close ACTION-154

<deiu> topic: LDP Spec

3. LDP Spec

15:13:20 <deiu> Arnaud: what is the status of the LDP spec, sandro?

Arnaud Le Hors: what is the status of the LDP spec, sandro?

15:13:36 <deiu> sandro: I don’t know anything, I just know that Ralph has been out a lot

Sandro Hawke: I don’t know anything, I just know that Ralph has been out a lot

15:14:01 <deiu> Arnaud: it would be nice to see the spec become a REC

Arnaud Le Hors: it would be nice to see the spec become a REC

15:14:14 <deiu> sandro: so we finished PR and nobody did the final bit?

Sandro Hawke: so we finished PR and nobody did the final bit?

15:14:19 <deiu> Arnaud: that’s right

Arnaud Le Hors: that’s right

15:14:39 <deiu> sandro: the meeting where we were supposed to discuss it has been canceled due to weather

Sandro Hawke: the meeting where we were supposed to discuss it has been canceled due to weather

15:15:00 <deiu> Arnaud: I’ll nudge ericP a bit

Arnaud Le Hors: I’ll nudge ericP a bit

15:15:05 <deiu> Topic: Paging

4. Paging

15:15:11 <deiu> Arnaud: any progress to report?

Arnaud Le Hors: any progress to report?

15:15:58 <deiu> SteveS: I have reached out to some folkes to see how they feel about using paging and whether they have done some testing

Steve Speicher: I have reached out to some folkes to see how they feel about using paging and whether they have done some testing

15:16:21 <deiu> Arnaud: is there a way we can identify which areas need to be tested?

Arnaud Le Hors: is there a way we can identify which areas need to be tested?

15:16:58 <Arnaud> http://w3c.github.io/ldp-testsuite/manifest/paging/

Arnaud Le Hors: http://w3c.github.io/ldp-testsuite/manifest/paging/

15:17:07 <deiu> SteveS: the methods are there, we just need to assign people to implement them

Steve Speicher: the methods are there, we just need to assign people to implement them

15:17:21 <deiu> Arnaud: is anybody interested in working on this (other than SteveS)?

Arnaud Le Hors: is anybody interested in working on this (other than SteveS)?

15:17:55 <deiu> …Henry, you said you were interested?

…Henry, you said you were interested?

15:18:16 <deiu> …it seems we have clearly lost momentum re. paging

…it seems we have clearly lost momentum re. paging

15:18:41 <deiu> SteveS: I’m not going to be at the meeting in 2 weeks but I can send an email once I hear back from this product team

Steve Speicher: I’m not going to be at the meeting in 2 weeks but I can send an email once I hear back from this product team

15:19:05 <deiu> …I can also see where we stand with the person available to me

…I can also see where we stand with the person available to me

15:19:39 <deiu> Arnaud: Ok, that’s about it for paging. If we feel that we’ll never make it through CR, then we just need to accept that fact and turn the spec into a WG note

Arnaud Le Hors: Ok, that’s about it for paging. If we feel that we’ll never make it through CR, then we just need to accept that fact and turn the spec into a WG note

15:20:23 <deiu> …we don’t have to make the decision quickly, but we’ll have to make that decision by the time of our expiration date

…we don’t have to make the decision quickly, but we’ll have to make that decision by the time of our expiration date

15:20:54 <deiu> sandro: can we go back a bit to the LDP spec? Did we handle those two comments we received?

Sandro Hawke: can we go back a bit to the LDP spec? Did we handle those two comments we received?

15:21:07 <deiu> Arnaud: we haven’t checked with the people who made the comments

Arnaud Le Hors: we haven’t checked with the people who made the comments

15:21:27 <deiu> Topic: LD Patch

5. LD Patch

15:21:50 <deiu> Arnaud: I put the responses in the agenda, for the questions we received when I submitted the TR

Arnaud Le Hors: I put the responses in the agenda, for the questions we received when I submitted the TR

15:22:18 <deiu> …as I explained last week, there was a bit of confusion re. the new process (removal of LC, etc)

…as I explained last week, there was a bit of confusion re. the new process (removal of LC, etc)

15:22:44 <deiu> …we basically need to integrate all the steps from LC

…we basically need to integrate all the steps from LC

15:23:10 <deiu> …the one part that remained open was the Conformance section

…the one part that remained open was the Conformance section

15:23:27 <deiu> …betehess put together that section so I would like people to take a look at it

…betehess put together that section so I would like people to take a look at it

15:23:44 <Arnaud> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/ldpatch/ldpatch.html#conformance

Arnaud Le Hors: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/ldpatch/ldpatch.html#conformance

15:24:11 <deiu> Arnaud: please take a moment to read it

Arnaud Le Hors: please take a moment to read it

15:24:29 <deiu> q+

q+

15:25:00 <Arnaud> ack deu

Arnaud Le Hors: ack deu

15:25:07 <Arnaud> ack deiu

Arnaud Le Hors: ack deiu

15:25:40 <sandro> q+ to ask about "LD Patch Server" instead of "LD Patch engine"

Sandro Hawke: q+ to ask about "LD Patch Server" instead of "LD Patch engine"

15:25:46 <Arnaud> ack sandro

Arnaud Le Hors: ack sandro

15:25:46 <Zakim> sandro, you wanted to ask about "LD Patch Server" instead of "LD Patch engine"

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, you wanted to ask about "LD Patch Server" instead of "LD Patch engine"

15:26:59 <azaroth> +1 to server

Robert Sanderson: +1 to server

15:27:16 <TallTed> +1 sandro's comment.  "engine" seems more like "processor"

Ted Thibodeau: +1 sandro's comment. "engine" seems more like "processor"

15:27:21 <sandro> "LD Patch-Handling Server"

Sandro Hawke: "LD Patch-Handling Server"

15:28:21 <deiu> Arnaud: anyone objects to changing “LD Patch engine” to “LD Patch server”

Arnaud Le Hors: anyone objects to changing “LD Patch engine” to “LD Patch server”

15:28:27 <azaroth> q+ re "reading"

Robert Sanderson: q+ re "reading"

15:28:29 <TallTed> "A conforming LD Patch Server is an LDP Server which is capable of handling an LD Patch document..."

Ted Thibodeau: "A conforming LD Patch Server is an LDP Server which is capable of handling an LD Patch document..."

15:28:35 <Arnaud> ack azaroth

Arnaud Le Hors: ack azaroth

15:28:35 <Zakim> azaroth, you wanted to discuss "reading"

Zakim IRC Bot: azaroth, you wanted to discuss "reading"

15:29:13 <deiu> azaroth: the system can also be used locally to open a file handler

Robert Sanderson: the system can also be used locally to open a file handler

15:29:27 <deiu> …reading the document and doing something with the data

…reading the document and doing something with the data

15:30:56 <azaroth> +1 to parsing

Robert Sanderson: +1 to parsing

15:30:58 <deiu> Arnaud: everyone seems to be happy with the proposal

Arnaud Le Hors: everyone seems to be happy with the proposal

15:31:38 <deiu> Arnaud: “As well as sections…” I don’t really like that

Arnaud Le Hors: “As well as sections…” I don’t really like that

15:31:55 <deiu> sandro: it’s ugly but it’s standard boilerplate

Sandro Hawke: it’s ugly but it’s standard boilerplate

15:32:12 <deiu> Arnaud: maybe start with “Sections…”?

Arnaud Le Hors: maybe start with “Sections…”?

15:32:39 <TallTed> "Sections marked as non-normative, as well as all authoring ..."  *much* better

Ted Thibodeau: "Sections marked as non-normative, as well as all authoring ..." *much* better

15:33:06 <Arnaud> PROPOSED: accept conformance section with "server" instead of "engine" and "parsing" instead of "reading"

PROPOSED: accept conformance section with "server" instead of "engine" and "parsing" instead of "reading"

15:33:13 <deiu> Arnaud: hearing no objections, I propose we access the conformance sections

Arnaud Le Hors: hearing no objections, I propose we accept the conformance section

15:33:18 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

15:33:19 <deiu> s/sections/section
15:33:21 <deiu> +!

+!

15:33:24 <deiu> +1

+1

15:33:24 <TallTed> +1

Ted Thibodeau: +1

15:33:27 <SteveS> +1

Steve Speicher: +1

15:33:30 <cburleson> +1

Cody Burleson: +1

15:33:35 <azaroth> +1

Robert Sanderson: +1

15:33:50 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: Accept conformance section with "server" instead of "engine" and "parsing" instead of "reading"

RESOLVED: Accept conformance section with "server" instead of "engine" and "parsing" instead of "reading"

15:33:56 <deiu> s/access/accept
15:34:21 <deiu> Arnaud: I will send an email to plh as soon as the spec is edited

Arnaud Le Hors: I will send an email to plh as soon as the spec is edited

15:34:46 <deiu> …that should allow us to move forward with the publication process

…that should allow us to move forward with the publication process

15:34:58 <deiu> Topic: Workshop

6. Workshop

15:35:20 <deiu> Arnaud: time is going by and there are some hard headlines in the W3C process (e.g. signal meetings 8 weeks ahead of time)

Arnaud Le Hors: time is going by and there are some hard deadlines in the W3C process (e.g. signal meetings 8 weeks ahead of time)

15:35:32 <azaroth> s/headlines/deadlines/
15:35:35 <deiu> …Rob has pointed out that the annotation WG has a meeting in April in SF

…Rob has pointed out that the annotation WG has a meeting in April in SF

15:35:53 <SteveS> Maybe we could code up the paging testsuite at a workshop

Steve Speicher: Maybe we could code up the paging testsuite at a workshop

15:35:58 <deiu> Arnaud: unless anyone has any news to report, I don’t think it’s going to happen

Arnaud Le Hors: unless anyone has any news to report, I don’t think it’s going to happen

15:36:20 <deiu> Ashok: I have emailed Arnaud that Oracle is interested and will at least have a couple of people there

Ashok Malhotra: I have emailed Arnaud that Oracle is interested and will at least have a couple of people there

15:36:33 <deiu> Arnaud: let’s have a straw poll

Arnaud Le Hors: let’s have a straw poll

15:37:00 <cburleson> +1

Cody Burleson: +1

15:37:01 <Arnaud> STAWPOLL: would you expect to attend or have someone from your org attend a workshop in SF in April if we had one?

STRAWPOLL: would you expect to attend or have someone from your org attend a workshop in SF in April if we had one?

15:37:08 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

15:37:10 <cburleson> +1

Cody Burleson: +1

15:37:14 <azaroth> +1

Robert Sanderson: +1

15:37:15 <Ashok> +1

Ashok Malhotra: +1

15:37:21 <MiguelAraCo> +1

Miguel Aragón: +1

15:37:24 <deiu> +1 (if my boss allows me ;) )

+1 (if my boss allows me ;) )

15:37:26 <azaroth> Or +3 if we're counting people

Robert Sanderson: Or +3 if we're counting people

15:37:34 <Arnaud> s/STAWPOLL/STRAWPOLL/
15:37:36 <SteveS> +0.5 depends on approval and topics

Steve Speicher: +0.5 depends on approval and topics

15:38:02 <TallTed> +1 likely by remote

Ted Thibodeau: +1 likely by remote

15:38:13 <SteveS> would be good if we had a hackday/afternoon

Steve Speicher: would be good if we had a hackday/afternoon

15:38:43 <deiu> Arnaud: so it seems there *is* interest in doing it

Arnaud Le Hors: so it seems there *is* interest in doing it

15:39:02 <deiu> …I need to check the timing and what it would take to make it happen

…I need to check the timing and what it would take to make it happen

15:39:05 <Zakim> +??P5

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5

15:39:14 <nmihindu> Zakim, ??P5 is me

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Zakim, ??P5 is me

15:39:14 <Zakim> +nmihindu; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +nmihindu; got it

15:39:19 <nmihindu> Zakim, mute me

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Zakim, mute me

15:39:19 <Zakim> nmihindu should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: nmihindu should now be muted

15:39:44 <deiu> Arnaud: I’ll talk to ericP about it

Arnaud Le Hors: I’ll talk to ericP about it

15:40:13 <deiu> …I cannot take a leadership role in this either, maybe someone else in the group would be interested in chairing this event?

…I cannot take a leadership role in this either, maybe someone else in the group would be interested in chairing this event?

15:40:21 <deiu> sandro: I’m afraid I can’t do it either

Sandro Hawke: I’m afraid I can’t do it either

15:40:32 <deiu> Ashok: maybe I could do it

Ashok Malhotra: maybe I could do it

15:41:08 <deiu> Ashok: it would be better if I had a co-chair

Ashok Malhotra: it would be better if I had a co-chair

15:41:46 <deiu> Arnaud: I’ll have a call with ericP to see how we can make it happen

Arnaud Le Hors: I’ll have a call with ericP to see how we can make it happen

15:41:54 <deiu> Topic: Social web WG

7. Social web WG

15:42:14 <deiu> Arnaud: several people in this group are involved in the social web WG

Arnaud Le Hors: several people in this group are involved in the social web WG

15:42:40 <deiu> …some people have looked at how LDP can help them

…some people have looked at how LDP can help them

15:43:16 <deiu> …I agree with Henry about leveraging LDP

…I agree with Henry about leveraging LDP

15:43:29 <deiu> …that would help LDP a lot

…that would help LDP a lot

15:44:03 <deiu> …if anybody is interested, please help by joining the group or participating in some form

…if anybody is interested, please help by joining the group or participating in some form

15:44:06 <azaroth> q+ to note anno ED

Robert Sanderson: q+ to note anno ED

15:44:18 <deiu> sandro: I started the wiki page that Henry mentioned in his email

Sandro Hawke: I started the wiki page that Henry mentioned in his email

15:44:37 <deiu> …I don’t know how to move foward with this, because there’s a gap between LDP and the social Web group

…I don’t know how to move foward with this, because there’s a gap between LDP and the social Web group

15:44:51 <Zakim> +ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericP

15:45:05 <deiu> …CIMBA could help close the gap but there are still a lot of bits missing

…CIMBA could help close the gap but there are still a lot of bits missing

15:45:44 <deiu> …if you think using LDP to exchange social data, then please help

…if you think using LDP to exchange social data, then please help

15:45:48 <Arnaud> ack azaroth

Arnaud Le Hors: ack azaroth

15:45:48 <Zakim> azaroth, you wanted to note anno ED

Zakim IRC Bot: azaroth, you wanted to note anno ED

15:45:49 <azaroth> http://w3c.github.io/web-annotation/protocol/wd/

Robert Sanderson: http://w3c.github.io/web-annotation/protocol/wd/

15:46:18 <deiu> azaroth: just wanted to note that in the annotation WG we have a possible way of using LDP for annotations

Robert Sanderson: just wanted to note that in the annotation WG we have a possible way of using LDP for annotations

15:46:27 <deiu> …we’re looking at how to make it work

…we’re looking at how to make it work

15:47:04 <deiu> Arnaud: you said there’s a proposal being put together, but what’s your sentiment about, is it going to happen?

Arnaud Le Hors: you said there’s a proposal being put together, but what’s your sentiment about, is it going to happen?

15:47:50 <Zakim> +bblfish

Zakim IRC Bot: +bblfish

15:47:54 <deiu> azaroth: we had some comments about containers storing a lot of annotations

Robert Sanderson: we had some comments about containers storing a lot of annotations

15:48:36 <deiu> azaroth: there was also some discussion around using Turtle and JSONLD and conformance

Robert Sanderson: there was also some discussion around using Turtle and JSONLD and conformance

15:49:29 <deiu> azaroth: there’s also the issue of RDF people vs non-RDF people

Robert Sanderson: there’s also the issue of RDF people vs non-RDF people

15:50:03 <SteveS> Actually JSON-LD is almost the same level as Turtle in LDP, it is a MUST when requested

Steve Speicher: Actually JSON-LD is almost the same level as Turtle in LDP, it is a MUST when requested

15:50:33 <SteveS> Should do turtle when header is absent

Steve Speicher: Should do turtle when header is absent

15:50:34 <deiu> Arnaud: yes, there’s usually an adverse reaction to RDF

Arnaud Le Hors: yes, there’s usually an adverse reaction to RDF

15:50:51 <deiu> …Henry, did you catch the discussion?

…Henry, did you catch the discussion?

15:50:59 <deiu> bblfish_: I followed a little bit

Henry Story: I followed a little bit

15:51:11 <deiu> …the LDP story is going for the API

…the LDP story is going for the API

15:51:34 <deiu> …they agree with non-reasoning RDF (e.g. JSON-LD)

…they agree with non-reasoning RDF (e.g. JSON-LD)

15:52:10 <azaroth> Ooops, true. I guess it's 4.3.2.2 that the Anno WG would want to change to recommend the JSON-LD serialization over turtle as the default

Robert Sanderson: Ooops, true. I guess it's 4.3.2.2 that the Anno WG would want to change to recommend the JSON-LD serialization over turtle as the default

15:52:23 <deiu> …I think there is going to be a lot of discussion, but the people working on LDP also need to get together and show some interop

…I think there is going to be a lot of discussion, but the people working on LDP also need to get together and show some interop

15:52:50 <deiu> …maybe we can get a group of LDP people with implementation to see how we can get simple things working together

…maybe we can get a group of LDP people with implementation to see how we can get simple things working together

15:53:22 <deiu> Arnaud: the SW WG is really keen on that

Arnaud Le Hors: the SW WG is really keen on that

15:53:26 <SteveS> azaroth, that is fine…think why we relaxed to should.  I’m not sure how it works to say you create a profile of LDP to strikeout the turtle MUST

Steve Speicher: azaroth, that is fine…think why we relaxed to should. I’m not sure how it works to say you create a profile of LDP to strikeout the turtle MUST

15:53:40 <deiu> …they want the WG to be implementation-driven, so Henry is right

…they want the WG to be implementation-driven, so Henry is right

15:54:01 <deiu> Arnaud: they already made the leap to using JSON-LD

Arnaud Le Hors: they already made the leap to using JSON-LD

15:54:21 <deiu> …they might be closer to using LDP than the anno WG

…they might be closer to using LDP than the anno WG

15:54:33 <deiu> …if there are people interested, they should reach out to Henry

…if there are people interested, they should reach out to Henry

15:55:03 <deiu> …I think we’re running out of time, so maybe we can leave it like this for now

…I think we’re running out of time, so maybe we can leave it like this for now

15:55:19 <deiu> ericP: any chance you can report on some progress for the open Actions?

Eric Prud'hommeaux: any chance you can report on some progress for the open Actions?

15:55:35 <deiu> ericP: there was one abour LDP going to REC, right?

Eric Prud'hommeaux: there was one abour LDP going to REC, right?

15:56:03 <deiu> …my guess is that it will take a week before we have a meeting about it, so we might just go ahead and submit a TR

…my guess is that it will take a week before we have a meeting about it, so we might just go ahead and submit a TR

15:56:15 <deiu> sandro: we won’t need a meeting, there’s no controverse

Sandro Hawke: we won’t need a meeting, there’s no controverse

15:56:42 <deiu> ericP: ok, so then we should respond to the commented and seek consent (the director will want to know we did this)

Eric Prud'hommeaux: ok, so then we should respond to the commented and seek consent (the director will want to know we did this)

15:56:52 <deiu> Arnaud: who is going to do this?

Arnaud Le Hors: who is going to do this?

15:57:15 <deiu> SteveS: I responded to ericP’s comment on the list, so I assumed you were going to respond to them

Steve Speicher: I responded to ericP’s comment on the list, so I assumed you were going to respond to them

15:57:30 <deiu> ericP: why do I respond and CC you? do you have the answers?

Eric Prud'hommeaux: why do I respond and CC you? do you have the answers?

15:57:34 <deiu> Arnaud: it’s in the list

Arnaud Le Hors: it’s in the list

15:57:47 <deiu> …maybe I suggest that you don’t leave it open ended?

…maybe I suggest that you don’t leave it open ended?

15:58:06 <deiu> ericP: yes, respond in a week, otherwise we take it that you agree

Eric Prud'hommeaux: yes, respond in a week, otherwise we take it that you agree

15:58:16 <Zakim> -bblfish

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15:58:17 <deiu> Arnaud: there was also an Action about LD Patch TR

Arnaud Le Hors: there was also an Action about LD Patch TR

15:58:23 <azaroth> SteveS: Agreed, striking out MUST isn't a reasonable thing for a profile to do

Steve Speicher: Agreed, striking out MUST isn't a reasonable thing for a profile to do [ Scribe Assist by Robert Sanderson ]

15:58:37 <deiu> …I have all the info to respond to plh, but please follow up on getting the call schedule

…I have all the info to respond to plh, but please follow up on getting the call schedule

15:58:43 <sandro> eric, how about the first email just say, "can you take a quick look now and let us know"...   that way we might get immediate responses, rather than waiting for a week

Sandro Hawke: eric, how about the first email just say, "can you take a quick look now and let us know"... that way we might get immediate responses, rather than waiting for a week

15:58:56 <deiu> Arnaud: ok, that should take care of everything

Arnaud Le Hors: ok, that should take care of everything

15:59:03 <deiu> …I think we can close the call

…I think we can close the call

15:59:11 <azaroth> Thanks all :)

Robert Sanderson: Thanks all :)

15:59:25 <Zakim> -cburleson

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15:59:29 <Zakim> -Sandro

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15:59:30 <Zakim> -azaroth

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15:59:31 <Zakim> -SteveS

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15:59:33 <deiu> [meeting adjourned]

[meeting adjourned]

15:59:43 <Zakim> -Ashok

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15:59:44 <Zakim> -nmihindu

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16:00:14 <Zakim> -TallTed

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16:00:15 <Zakim> -Arnaud

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16:00:17 <Zakim> -deiu

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16:00:21 <Zakim> -ericP

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16:00:22 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended

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16:00:22 <Zakim> Attendees were azaroth, Arnaud, Ashok, SteveS, deiu, cburleson, MiguelAraCo, +1.617.838.aaaa, TallTed, Sandro, nmihindu, ericP, bblfish

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were azaroth, Arnaud, Ashok, SteveS, deiu, cburleson, MiguelAraCo, +1.617.838.aaaa, TallTed, Sandro, nmihindu, ericP, bblfish

<deiu> Present: azaroth, Arnaud, Ashok, SteveS, deiu, cburleson, MiguelAraCo, TallTed, Sandro, nmihindu, ericP, bblfish
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