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Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 22 July 2013

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.07.22
Seen
Arnaud Le Hors, Ashok Malhotra, Bart van Leeuwen, Cody Burleson, Eric Prud'hommeaux, Kalpa Gunaratna, Kevin Page, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya, Roger Menday, Sandro Hawke, Serena Villata, Steve Speicher, Ted Thibodeau
Chair
Arnaud Le Hors
Scribe
Bart van Leeuwen
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Minutes of July 15 approved link
  2. Move editors draft to LC with a day or so for handling editorial comments link
  3. End of review period of LC by the end of September 2nd 2013 link
  4. Skip meeting on July 29th, next meeting August 5th link
Topics
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13:55:42 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP

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13:55:42 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 5 minutes

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13:55:43 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:55:43 <trackbot> Date: 22 July 2013
13:59:49 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started

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13:59:55 <Zakim> +??P10

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14:00:07 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P10 is me

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14:00:23 <Zakim> +Sandro

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14:00:31 <Zakim> +[IBM]

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14:00:59 <SteveS> Zakim, [IBM] is me

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14:00:59 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it

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14:01:09 <Zakim> + +33.9.50.97.aaaa

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14:01:19 <Arnaud> zakim, aaaa is me

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14:01:19 <Zakim> +Arnaud; got it

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14:01:59 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra

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14:02:21 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:02:29 <cody> Zakim, IPcaller is me.

Cody Burleson: Zakim, IPcaller is me.

14:02:29 <Zakim> +cody; got it

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14:03:29 <Arnaud> zakim, who's on the phone?

Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's on the phone?

14:03:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, Sandro, SteveS, Arnaud, Ashok_Malhotra, cody

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BartvanLeeuwen, Sandro, SteveS, Arnaud, Ashok_Malhotra, cody

14:04:54 <BartvanLeeuwen> scribe: BartvanLeeuwen

(Scribe set to Bart van Leeuwen)

<BartvanLeeuwen> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2013.07.22
<BartvanLeeuwen> chair: Arnaud
14:05:58 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

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14:06:15 <BartvanLeeuwen> topic: Approve last week's minutes

1. Approve last week's minutes

14:07:07 <BartvanLeeuwen> Proposal: approve minutes of 2013-07-15

PROPOSED: approve minutes of 2013-07-15

<BartvanLeeuwen> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2013-07-15

http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/ldp/2013-07-15

14:07:12 <SteveS> +1

Steve Speicher: +1

14:07:22 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

14:07:22 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it

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14:07:24 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

14:07:24 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted

14:07:44 <BartvanLeeuwen> Resolved: Minutes of July 15 approved

RESOLVED: Minutes of July 15 approved

14:07:50 <BartvanLeeuwen> topic: Tracking of actions and issues

2. Tracking of actions and issues

14:08:06 <sandro> action-90?

Sandro Hawke: ACTION-90?

14:08:06 <trackbot> ACTION-90 -- Eric Prud'hommeaux to coordinate with Sandro re: comment tracker and use mailing list public-ldp-comments@w3.org -- due 2013-07-15 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-90 -- Eric Prud'hommeaux to coordinate with Sandro re: comment tracker and use mailing list public-ldp-comments@w3.org -- due 2013-07-15 -- OPEN

14:08:06 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/90

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/90

14:09:04 <BartvanLeeuwen> sandro: no action taken so far

Sandro Hawke: no action taken so far

14:09:11 <Zakim> +??P32

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P32

14:09:31 <svillata> Zakim, ??P32 is me

Serena Villata: Zakim, ??P32 is me

14:09:31 <Zakim> +svillata; got it

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14:10:20 <BartvanLeeuwen> sandro: do we want to use LC tracker, or the normal tracker ? neither is smart with email.

Sandro Hawke: do we want to use LC tracker, or the normal tracker ? neither is smart with email.

14:10:22 <Zakim> +??P33

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14:10:26 <Zakim> +??P34

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P34

14:10:52 <krp> zakim, ??P34 is me

Kevin Page: zakim, ??P34 is me

14:10:52 <Zakim> +krp; got it

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14:11:06 <nmihindu> Zakim, ??P33 is me

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Zakim, ??P33 is me

14:11:06 <Zakim> +nmihindu; got it

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14:11:08 <SteveS> Here is a reference to a usage of LC tracker https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/

Steve Speicher: Here is a reference to a usage of LC tracker https://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/35422/

14:11:10 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: during last f2f a tracker was shown

Arnaud Le Hors: during last f2f a tracker was shown

14:11:18 <BartvanLeeuwen> sandro: that is LC tracker

Sandro Hawke: that is LC tracker

14:11:27 <BartvanLeeuwen> sandro: I will setup the mailing list

Sandro Hawke: I will setup the mailing list

14:13:56 <Zakim> + +44.208.573.aabb

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14:14:09 <sandro> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-comments/

Sandro Hawke: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-comments/

14:14:09 <roger> zakim, I am aabb

Roger Menday: zakim, I am aabb

14:14:09 <Zakim> +roger; got it

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14:14:15 <Zakim> +[GVoice]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[GVoice]

14:14:39 <BartvanLeeuwen> action-91?

ACTION-91?

14:14:39 <trackbot> ACTION-91 -- Steve Speicher to add a header to the vocabulary document to say that it's informative; real definitions are in the LDP specification -- due 2013-07-22 -- PENDINGREVIEW

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-91 -- Steve Speicher to add a header to the vocabulary document to say that it's informative; real definitions are in the LDP specification -- due 2013-07-22 -- PENDINGREVIEW

14:14:39 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/91

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/actions/91

14:15:33 <SteveS> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/ldp.ttl has the change

Steve Speicher: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/ldp.ttl has the change

14:15:54 <sandro> close action-90

Sandro Hawke: close ACTION-90

14:15:54 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-90 Coordinate with Sandro re: comment tracker and use mailing list public-ldp-comments@w3.org.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-90 Coordinate with Sandro re: comment tracker and use mailing list public-ldp-comments@w3.org.

14:15:59 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/55082/

Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2006/02/lc-comments-tracker/55082/

14:17:42 <cody> Is this the link to the vocal doc?…https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/ldp.ttl

Cody Burleson: Is this the link to the vocal doc?…https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/ldp.ttl

14:17:51 <sandro> SteveS, I added a link to our LC tracker at: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Main_Page#Ongoing_Work

Sandro Hawke: SteveS, I added a link to our LC tracker at: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Main_Page#Ongoing_Work

14:17:54 <cody> s /vocal/vocab

Cody Burleson: s /vocal/vocab

14:18:06 <BartvanLeeuwen> close action-38

close ACTION-38

14:18:06 <trackbot> Closed ACTION-38 Create complete intro section proposal for issue-37.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-38 Create complete intro section proposal for ISSUE-37.

14:19:03 <Zakim> +??P37

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14:19:37 <Zakim> -??P37

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14:20:08 <BartvanLeeuwen> topic: LDP Specification Review

3. LDP Specification Review

14:20:47 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: SteveS is the specification in shape ?

Arnaud Le Hors: SteveS is the specification in shape ?

14:21:16 <Zakim> +Kalpa

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14:21:46 <BartvanLeeuwen> SteveS: I've handled some the normative issues people have raised

Steve Speicher: I've handled some the normative issues people have raised

14:22:15 <BartvanLeeuwen> SteveS: there are still issues left over, leave it up to the WG if it is necessary to go over them

Steve Speicher: there are still issues left over, leave it up to the WG if it is necessary to go over them

14:22:30 <BartvanLeeuwen> SteveS: it is in good shape, there is always room for improvement

Steve Speicher: it is in good shape, there is always room for improvement

14:22:48 <Ashok> q+

Ashok Malhotra: q+

14:23:25 <Arnaud> ack ashok

Arnaud Le Hors: ack ashok

14:23:37 <SteveS> q+

Steve Speicher: q+

14:23:50 <cody> +1 to ready for last call; after giving editors a couple of days to polish

Cody Burleson: +1 to ready for last call; after giving editors a couple of days to polish

14:23:54 <BartvanLeeuwen> Ashok: I think we need to progress to LC , and give the editors a couple of days to take the comments

Ashok Malhotra: I think we need to progress to LC , and give the editors a couple of days to take the comments

14:23:56 <Arnaud> ack steves

Arnaud Le Hors: ack steves

14:26:06 <sandro> +1 putting accept-post At Risk, so we can take it out if the IETF draft moves ahead fast enough

Sandro Hawke: +1 putting accept-post At Risk, so we can take it out if the IETF draft moves ahead fast enough

14:26:15 <BartvanLeeuwen> SteveS: there is one issues with a section about accept-post headers which might be at risk, there is a email to ietf on this

Steve Speicher: there is one issues with a section about accept-post headers which might be at risk, there is a email to ietf on this

14:26:57 <SteveS> +1 as ready for last call, with a day or so for some handling of last minute comments

Steve Speicher: +1 as ready for last call, with a day or so for some handling of last minute comments

14:28:38 <BartvanLeeuwen> proposed: Move editors draft to LC with a day or so for handling last minute comments

PROPOSED: Move editors draft to LC with a day or so for handling last minute comments

14:29:02 <BartvanLeeuwen> proposed: Move editors draft to LC with a day or so for handling editorial  comments

PROPOSED: Move editors draft to LC with a day or so for handling editorial comments

14:29:15 <SteveS> +1

Steve Speicher: +1

14:29:16 <BartvanLeeuwen> BartvanLeeuwen: +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

14:29:21 <Ashok> +1

Ashok Malhotra: +1

14:29:21 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1

14:29:22 <krp> +1

Kevin Page: +1

14:29:23 <svillata> +1

Serena Villata: +1

14:29:27 <Kalpa> +1

Kalpa Gunaratna: +1

14:29:28 <cody> +1

Cody Burleson: +1

14:29:29 <TallTed> +1

Ted Thibodeau: +1

14:29:31 <ericP> +1

Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1

14:29:41 <nmihindu> +1

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +1

14:29:58 <BartvanLeeuwen> Resolved: Move editors draft to LC with a day or so for handling editorial  comments

RESOLVED: Move editors draft to LC with a day or so for handling editorial comments

14:30:15 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ashok_Malhotra

14:30:24 <BartvanLeeuwen> topic: Date for review period of LC

4. Date for review period of LC

14:31:03 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: we have a F2F4 at 12/13 september

Arnaud Le Hors: we have a F2F4 at 12/13 september

14:31:15 <ericP> rdf-val workshop 10-11 Setp, LDP F2F 12-13 Sept

Eric Prud'hommeaux: rdf-val workshop 10-11 Setp, LDP F2F 12-13 Sept

14:31:31 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: lets have a close date before the meeting, so we time to work on them at the F2F

Arnaud Le Hors: lets have a close date before the meeting, so we time to work on them at the F2F

14:32:08 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: proposal to have closing date at September 2nd, so editors can incorporate changes

Arnaud Le Hors: proposal to have closing date at September 2nd, so editors can incorporate changes

14:32:54 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: gives 6 weeks for comments, and enough time for the editors to modify the spec before the F2F4

Arnaud Le Hors: gives 6 weeks for comments, and enough time for the editors to modify the spec before the F2F4

14:34:18 <BartvanLeeuwen> Proposed: end of review period of LC by the end of September 2nd 2013

PROPOSED: end of review period of LC by the end of September 2nd 2013

14:34:32 <ericP> +1

Eric Prud'hommeaux: +1

14:34:34 <BartvanLeeuwen> BartvanLeeuwen: +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

14:34:36 <krp> +1

Kevin Page: +1

14:34:43 <SteveS> +1

Steve Speicher: +1

14:34:43 <nmihindu> +1

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +1

14:34:43 <svillata> +1

Serena Villata: +1

14:34:46 <TallTed> +1

Ted Thibodeau: +1

14:34:48 <BartvanLeeuwen> Resolved: End of review period of LC by the end of September 2nd 2013

RESOLVED: End of review period of LC by the end of September 2nd 2013

14:34:50 <roger> +1

Roger Menday: +1

14:35:34 <BartvanLeeuwen> Topic: Next meeting

5. Next meeting

14:35:57 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: WGs have lighter schedule during summer holidays

Arnaud Le Hors: WGs have lighter schedule during summer holidays

14:36:26 <SteveS> +1 to skipping next 2 meetings (I'm not available anyway)

Steve Speicher: +1 to skipping next 2 meetings (I'm not available anyway)

14:38:01 <BartvanLeeuwen> Proposed: Skip meeting on July 29th next meeting August 5th

PROPOSED: Skip meeting on July 29th next meeting August 5th

14:38:13 <cody> We could use meetings that focus just on auxiliary documents too.

Cody Burleson: We could use meetings that focus just on auxiliary documents too.

14:39:11 <nmihindu> +1 to focusing on auxiliary documents these days.

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +1 to focusing on auxiliary documents these days.

14:39:58 <cody> +1 to every other week minimum.

Cody Burleson: +1 to every other week minimum.

14:40:22 <roger> +1

Roger Menday: +1

14:40:27 <BartvanLeeuwen> BartvanLeeuwen: +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

14:40:29 <SteveS> +ok

Steve Speicher: +ok

14:40:29 <TallTed> +!

Ted Thibodeau: +!

14:40:32 <TallTed> +1

Ted Thibodeau: +1

14:40:36 <krp> +1

Kevin Page: +1

14:40:39 <svillata> +1

Serena Villata: +1

14:40:41 <cody> +1

Cody Burleson: +1

14:40:41 <Kalpa> +1

Kalpa Gunaratna: +1

14:40:49 <BartvanLeeuwen> Resolved: Skip meeting on July 29th, next meeting August 5th

RESOLVED: Skip meeting on July 29th, next meeting August 5th

14:41:04 <BartvanLeeuwen> topic: F2F4

6. F2F4

14:41:27 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: page is updated: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/F2F4

Arnaud Le Hors: page is updated: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/F2F4

14:41:38 <BartvanLeeuwen> Arnaud: please update your presence

Arnaud Le Hors: please update your presence

14:43:42 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me

14:43:42 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should no longer be muted

14:44:08 <BartvanLeeuwen> sandro and ericP will work out the location details, and update the wiki page

sandro and ericP will work out the location details, and update the wiki page

14:44:35 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

14:44:35 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted

14:46:18 <Zakim> -TallTed

Zakim IRC Bot: -TallTed

14:46:21 <Zakim> -roger

Zakim IRC Bot: -roger

14:46:40 <Zakim> -SteveS

Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveS

14:46:41 <Zakim> -nmihindu

Zakim IRC Bot: -nmihindu

14:46:41 <Zakim> -svillata

Zakim IRC Bot: -svillata

14:46:43 <Zakim> -Arnaud

Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud

14:46:46 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen

Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen

14:46:51 <Arnaud> trackbot, end meeting

Arnaud Le Hors: trackbot, end meeting

14:46:51 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, list attendees

14:46:51 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been BartvanLeeuwen, Sandro, SteveS, +33.9.50.97.aaaa, Arnaud, Ashok_Malhotra, cody, TallTed, svillata, krp, nmihindu, +44.208.573.aabb, roger,

Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been BartvanLeeuwen, Sandro, SteveS, +33.9.50.97.aaaa, Arnaud, Ashok_Malhotra, cody, TallTed, svillata, krp, nmihindu, +44.208.573.aabb, roger,

14:46:55 <Zakim> ... ericP, Kalpa

Zakim IRC Bot: ... ericP, Kalpa

14:46:59 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, please draft minutes

14:46:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/22-ldp-minutes.html trackbot

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2013/07/22-ldp-minutes.html trackbot

14:47:00 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, bye

14:47:00 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items



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