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Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 09 July 2012

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2012.07.09
Seen
András Micsik, Andy Seaborne, Arnaud Le Hors, Arthur Keen, Boris Villazón-Terrazas, Christophe Gueret, Eric Prud'hommeaux, Erik Wilde, Henry Story, Jacek Kopecky, John Arwe, Kalpa Gunaratna, Kevin Page, Lee Feigenbaum, Michael Kerrin, Michael Hausenblas, Olivier Berger, Richard Cyganiak, Sandro Hawke, Steve Battle, Steve Speicher, Ted Thibodeau, Yrjana Rankka, Yves Lafon
Chair
Arnaud Le Hors
Scribe
András Micsik
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions

None.

Topics
<sandro> scribe: micsik

(Scribe set to András Micsik)

13:58:35 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/07/09-ldp-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/07/09-ldp-irc

13:58:37 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 181

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs 181

13:58:39 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be

13:58:39 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot

13:58:40 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
13:58:42 <trackbot> Date: 09 July 2012
13:58:52 <AndyS1> zakim, this will be lpd

Andy Seaborne: zakim, this will be lpd

13:58:52 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, AndyS1

Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, AndyS1

13:59:08 <AndyS1> zakim, this will be 53794

Andy Seaborne: zakim, this will be 53794

13:59:08 <Zakim> ok, AndyS1; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, AndyS1; I see SW_LDP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute

13:59:18 <AndyS1> zakim, this is 53794

Andy Seaborne: zakim, this is 53794

13:59:19 <Zakim> ok, AndyS1; that matches SW_LDP()10:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, AndyS1; that matches SW_LDP()10:00AM

13:59:19 <dret> zakim, who is here?

Erik Wilde: zakim, who is here?

13:59:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P1, ??P2, ??P0, [IBM], ??P3, ??P5

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P1, ??P2, ??P0, [IBM], ??P3, ??P5

13:59:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see LeeF, RRSAgent, Andras, AndyS1, krp, ghard, domel, boris, Arnaud, dret, MacTed, betehess, deiu, SteveS, oberger, sandro, Yves, trackbot, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see LeeF, RRSAgent, Andras, AndyS1, krp, ghard, domel, boris, Arnaud, dret, MacTed, betehess, deiu, SteveS, oberger, sandro, Yves, trackbot, ericP

13:59:28 <Zakim> -??P2

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P2

13:59:55 <Zakim> + +33.9.50.97.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.9.50.97.aaaa

14:00:04 <Zakim> +??P9

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9

14:00:04 <boris> zakim, who is here?

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, who is here?

14:00:06 <Zakim> +LeeF

Zakim IRC Bot: +LeeF

14:00:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P1, ??P0, [IBM], ??P3, ??P5, +33.9.50.97.aaaa, ??P9, LeeF

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P1, ??P0, [IBM], ??P3, ??P5, +33.9.50.97.aaaa, ??P9, LeeF

14:00:14 <boris> zakim, ??P9 is me

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, ??P9 is me

14:00:20 <Zakim> +??P10

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10

14:00:25 <AndyS1> zakim, ??P10 is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, ??P10 is me

14:00:27 <Zakim> +boris; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +boris; got it

14:00:29 <dret> list participants

Erik Wilde: list participants

14:00:31 <Arnaud> zakim, aaaa is me

Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, aaaa is me

14:00:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see steveB, relves, Zakim, LeeF, RRSAgent, Andras, AndyS1, krp, ghard, domel, boris, Arnaud, dret, MacTed, betehess, deiu, SteveS, oberger, sandro, Yves, trackbot, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see steveB, relves, Zakim, LeeF, RRSAgent, Andras, AndyS1, krp, ghard, domel, boris, Arnaud, dret, MacTed, betehess, deiu, SteveS, oberger, sandro, Yves, trackbot, ericP

14:00:38 <Zakim> +??P13

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P13

14:00:43 <SteveS> Zakim, [IBM] is me

Steve Speicher: Zakim, [IBM] is me

14:00:44 <Zakim> +AndyS1; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS1; got it

14:00:48 <Zakim> -boris

Zakim IRC Bot: -boris

14:00:50 <Zakim> +Arnaud; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Arnaud; got it

14:01:12 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveS; got it

14:01:29 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software

14:01:32 <dret> zakim, who is here?

Erik Wilde: zakim, who is here?

14:01:36 <boris> zakim, who is here?

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, who is here?

14:01:38 <MacTed> RRSAgent, make logs member

Ted Thibodeau: RRSAgent, make logs member

14:01:44 <steveB> 'steveB' is Steve Battle - just joined the WG - hello all.

Steve Battle: 'steveB' is Steve Battle - just joined the WG - hello all.

14:01:47 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

14:01:48 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

14:01:52 <Zakim> -??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P3

14:01:52 <cgueret_work> hello

Christophe Gueret: hello

14:02:09 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

14:02:12 <Zakim> +??P25

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P25

14:02:14 <Zakim> +??P21

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P21

14:02:29 <Zakim> +??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3

14:02:30 <AndyS1> Hi SteveB

Andy Seaborne: Hi SteveB

14:02:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P1, ??P0, SteveS, ??P5, Arnaud, LeeF, AndyS1, ??P13, OpenLink_Software, ??P25, Sandro, ??P21, ??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P1, ??P0, SteveS, ??P5, Arnaud, LeeF, AndyS1, ??P13, OpenLink_Software, ??P25, Sandro, ??P21, ??P3

14:02:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P1, ??P0, SteveS, ??P5, Arnaud, LeeF, AndyS1, ??P13, OpenLink_Software, ??P25, Sandro, ??P21, ??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P1, ??P0, SteveS, ??P5, Arnaud, LeeF, AndyS1, ??P13, OpenLink_Software, ??P25, Sandro, ??P21, ??P3

14:02:55 <mhausenblas> Zakim, I am mhausenblas

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, I am mhausenblas

14:02:58 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MacTed; got it

14:02:58 <krp> zakim, ??P3 is me

Kevin Page: zakim, ??P3 is me

14:03:00 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should now be muted

14:03:06 <cygri> zakim, i'm with mhausenblas

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, i'm with mhausenblas

14:03:12 <Zakim> -??P25

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P25

14:03:14 <Zakim> + +1.804.991.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.804.991.aabb

14:03:27 <ghard> zakim, ??P25 is me

Yrjana Rankka: zakim, ??P25 is me

14:03:29 <Zakim> +JohnArwe

Zakim IRC Bot: +JohnArwe

14:03:32 <Zakim> +mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas

14:03:34 <boris> zakim, ??P1 is probably me

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, ??P1 is probably me

14:03:38 <Zakim> On IRC I see mkerrin, kalpa, cgueret_work, mhausenblas, steveB, relves, Zakim, LeeF, RRSAgent, Andras, AndyS1, krp, ghard, domel, boris, Arnaud, dret, MacTed, betehess, deiu,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see mkerrin, kalpa, cgueret_work, mhausenblas, steveB, relves, Zakim, LeeF, RRSAgent, Andras, AndyS1, krp, ghard, domel, boris, Arnaud, dret, MacTed, betehess, deiu,

14:03:43 <Zakim> ... SteveS, oberger, sandro, Yves, trackbot, ericP

Zakim IRC Bot: ... SteveS, oberger, sandro, Yves, trackbot, ericP

14:03:47 <Zakim> +??P35

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P35

14:04:00 <Zakim> +??P38

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P38

14:04:01 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas, I now associate you with mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, mhausenblas, I now associate you with mhausenblas

14:04:04 <Zakim> +krp; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it

14:04:06 <mkerrin> zakim, i'm with mhausenblas

Michael Kerrin: zakim, i'm with mhausenblas

14:04:07 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

14:04:21 <Zakim> + +1.937.775.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.937.775.aacc

14:04:23 <Zakim> I already had ??P25 as JohnArwe, ghard

Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P25 as JohnArwe, ghard

14:04:29 <Zakim> +boris; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +boris; got it

14:04:30 <ghard> Ummh

Yrjana Rankka: Ummh

14:04:36 <Andras> zakim, ??PP13 may be me

zakim, ??PP13 may be me

14:04:43 <jkopecky> zakim, ??p38 is probably me

Jacek Kopecky: zakim, ??p38 is probably me

14:04:45 <Zakim> +??P41

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P41

14:04:49 <Zakim> +mkerrin; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +mkerrin; got it

14:04:51 <dret> zakim, who is there?

Erik Wilde: zakim, who is there?

14:04:53 <Zakim> + +44.117.370.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.117.370.aadd

14:04:57 <kalpa> how can I get to know my conference phone number to let know Zakim?

Kalpa Gunaratna: how can I get to know my conference phone number to let know Zakim?

14:05:04 <ghard> zakim, ??P35 is probably me

Yrjana Rankka: zakim, ??P35 is probably me

14:05:15 <Zakim> sorry, Andras, I do not understand your question

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Andras, I do not understand your question

14:05:19 <Zakim> +jkopecky?; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +jkopecky?; got it

14:05:20 <bblfish> hihi

Henry Story: hihi

14:05:21 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, dret.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, dret.

14:05:21 <MacTed> Zakim, who's noisy?

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, who's noisy?

14:05:26 <Zakim> +ghard?; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ghard?; got it

14:05:49 <Yves> -/me waves

Yves Lafon: -/me waves

14:05:50 <Zakim> MacTed, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (59%), Arnaud (38%), +44.117.370.aadd (19%)

Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P0 (59%), Arnaud (38%), +44.117.370.aadd (19%)

14:05:52 <Andras> zakim, ??PP13 is probably me

zakim, ??PP13 is probably me

14:05:55 <Zakim> +Yves

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yves

14:06:01 <Zakim> sorry, Andras, I do not understand your question

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Andras, I do not understand your question

14:06:14 <Yves> s/-\/me waves//

Yves Lafon: s/-\/me waves// (warning: replacement failed)

14:07:19 <Andras> zakim, ??PP13 is probably Andras

zakim, ??PP13 is probably Andras

14:07:19 <Zakim> sorry, Andras, I do not understand your question

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Andras, I do not understand your question

14:07:52 <kalpa> zakim aacc is me

Kalpa Gunaratna: zakim aacc is me

14:08:47 <ghard> zakim, ??P35 is me

Yrjana Rankka: zakim, ??P35 is me

14:08:47 <Zakim> I already had ??P35 as ghard?, ghard

Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P35 as ghard?, ghard

14:08:52 <Zakim> +??P49

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P49

14:08:54 <Yves> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2012.07.09
14:08:59 <Yves> Chair: Arnaud
14:09:24 <ericP> Zakim, ??P49 is me

Eric Prud'hommeaux: Zakim, ??P49 is me

14:09:24 <Zakim> +ericP; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericP; got it

14:09:40 <ghard> Cheers Yves ;)

Yrjana Rankka: Cheers Yves ;)

14:12:07 <Zakim> +Arthur

Zakim IRC Bot: +Arthur

14:12:43 <kalpa> Zakim, aacc is me

Kalpa Gunaratna: Zakim, aacc is me

14:12:43 <Zakim> +kalpa; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +kalpa; got it

14:13:02 <Yves> Topic: Minutes of last meeting

1. Minutes of last meeting

14:13:12 <SteveS> +1 for meetings

Steve Speicher: +1 for meetings

14:13:19 <bblfish> was not there

Henry Story: was not there

14:13:23 <bblfish> but read it

Henry Story: but read it

14:13:26 <SteveS> +1 for minutes

Steve Speicher: +1 for minutes

14:13:29 <mhausenblas> +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1

14:14:05 <Andras> Minutes are approved

Minutes are approved

14:14:35 <Yves> close ACTION-2

Yves Lafon: close ACTION-2

14:14:35 <trackbot> ACTION-2 Set up commonscribe closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-2 Set up commonscribe closed

14:15:37 <Andras> next meeting 23 July

next meeting 23 July

14:15:57 <Zakim> -krp

Zakim IRC Bot: -krp

14:16:01 <Andras> TPAC to be used for f2f

TPAC to be used for f2f

14:16:25 <Zakim> -boris

Zakim IRC Bot: -boris

14:16:31 <bblfish> ah btw. I think it would be good for the WebID Community Group and the Read Write Web Community Group to meet with this group too

Henry Story: ah btw. I think it would be good for the WebID Community Group and the Read Write Web Community Group to meet with this group too

14:16:55 <Zakim> +??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3

14:17:09 <Andras> http://www.w3.org/2010/11/TPAC/

http://www.w3.org/2010/11/TPAC/

14:17:14 <krp> zakim, ??P3 is me

Kevin Page: zakim, ??P3 is me

14:17:14 <Zakim> +krp; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it

14:17:28 <ghard> bblfish indeed a good idea

Yrjana Rankka: bblfish indeed a good idea

14:17:53 <Andras> volunteers for hosting a meeintg in US

volunteers for hosting a meeintg in US

14:18:08 <Andras> in the same time as TPAC

in the same time as TPAC

14:18:43 <Andras> by the end of August we should define the exact details

by the end of August we should define the exact details

14:19:06 <bblfish> oops could I mention something on this topic?

Henry Story: oops could I mention something on this topic?

14:19:10 <Yves> (note, planned time for TPAC for ldp should be nov 1 and 2)

Yves Lafon: (note, planned time for TPAC for ldp should be nov 1 and 2)

14:19:17 <Zakim> -??P41

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P41

14:19:19 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/REST

Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/REST

14:19:20 <ArthurK> zakim, who is on the phone?

Arthur Keen: zakim, who is on the phone?

14:19:20 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, SteveS, ??P5, Arnaud, LeeF, AndyS1, ??P13, MacTed (muted), Sandro, ??P21, +1.804.991.aabb, JohnArwe, mhausenblas, ghard, jkopecky?, kalpa,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P0, SteveS, ??P5, Arnaud, LeeF, AndyS1, ??P13, MacTed (muted), Sandro, ??P21, +1.804.991.aabb, JohnArwe, mhausenblas, ghard, jkopecky?, kalpa,

14:19:22 <bblfish> q+

Henry Story: q+

14:19:24 <Zakim> ... +44.117.370.aadd, Yves, ericP, Arthur, sandro, krp

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +44.117.370.aadd, Yves, ericP, Arthur, sandro, krp

14:19:24 <Zakim> mhausenblas has cygri, mkerrin

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has cygri, mkerrin

14:19:26 <Yves> Topic: RDF Simple Data Interface Protocol

2. RDF Simple Data Interface Protocol

14:19:28 <AndyS1> "RDF Simple Data Interface Protocol - Level Zero"   http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/REST    (from Sandro)

Andy Seaborne: "RDF Simple Data Interface Protocol - Level Zero" http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/REST (from Sandro)

14:20:00 <Zakim> +??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1

14:20:17 <Andras> zakim, ??P13 is me

zakim, ??P13 is me

14:20:17 <Zakim> +Andras; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Andras; got it

14:21:08 <Andras> this is already almost in the specs...

this is already almost in the specs...

14:21:39 <Andras> level 0 - get and put

level 0 - get and put

14:22:09 <Andras> not in level 0 - questions and possible solutions

not in level 0 - questions and possible solutions

14:23:02 <Andras> for example PATCH

for example PATCH

14:23:48 <Andras> Arnaud: is it higher level than the graph store prootocol?

Arnaud Le Hors: is it higher level than the graph store prootocol?

14:24:00 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

14:24:06 <Andras> Sandro: SDI is more abstract

Sandro Hawke: SDI is more abstract

14:24:13 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q?

14:24:16 <Zakim> +??P41

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P41

14:24:31 <Zakim> -??P41

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P41

14:25:02 <Zakim> +??P41

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P41

14:25:06 <AndyS1> (Henry Story speaking)

Andy Seaborne: (Henry Story speaking)

14:25:10 <steveB> 'steveB' is steve battle - on the phone also

Steve Battle: 'steveB' is steve battle - on the phone also

14:25:26 <boris> zakim, who is talking?

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, who is talking?

14:25:37 <Zakim> boris, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds

Zakim IRC Bot: boris, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds

14:25:57 <Zakim> -??P41

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P41

14:26:01 <ericP> q?

Eric Prud'hommeaux: q?

14:26:04 <Andras> Henry: I think it would be good for the WebID Community Group and the Read Write Web Community Group to meet with this group too

Henry Story: I think it would be good for the WebID Community Group and the Read Write Web Community Group to meet with this group too

14:26:54 <bblfish> it's good to see many very similar proposals

Henry Story: it's good to see many very similar proposals

14:27:47 <Andras> Henry: also to organize a hackathon in Lyon

Henry Story: also to organize a hackathon in Lyon

14:28:03 <Andras> these groups are overlapping

these groups are overlapping

14:28:24 <bblfish> ok, will do

Henry Story: ok, will do

14:28:40 <Andras> Arnaud: send a mail about these ideas

Arnaud Le Hors: send a mail about these ideas

14:28:40 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q?

14:28:43 <Arnaud> q-

Arnaud Le Hors: q-

14:28:44 <SteveS> +1 to bblfish's proposals

Steve Speicher: +1 to bblfish's proposals

14:28:49 <ericP> ack bblfish

Eric Prud'hommeaux: ack bblfish

14:28:50 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q?

14:28:53 <ericP> ack cygri

Eric Prud'hommeaux: ack cygri

14:29:06 <Zakim> +??P17

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P17

14:29:27 <oberger> Zakim: +??P17 is probably me
14:29:37 <Andras> Richard: collection resources are existing in your domain or new ones?

Richard Cyganiak: collection resources are existing in your domain or new ones?

14:30:11 <oberger> Zakim, +??P17 is probably me

Olivier Berger: Zakim, +??P17 is probably me

14:30:11 <Zakim> sorry, oberger, I do not understand your question

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, oberger, I do not understand your question

14:30:20 <oberger> Zakim, +??P17 is me

Olivier Berger: Zakim, +??P17 is me

14:30:20 <Zakim> sorry, oberger, I do not recognize a party named '+??P17'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, oberger, I do not recognize a party named '+??P17'

14:30:30 <MacTed> Zakim, ??p17 is oberger

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, ??p17 is oberger

14:30:30 <Zakim> +oberger; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +oberger; got it

14:30:42 <oberger> thx MacTed

Olivier Berger: thx MacTed

14:31:02 <oberger> sorry for late arrival (visiting my doctor :-/)

Olivier Berger: sorry for late arrival (visiting my doctor :-/)

14:31:03 <Andras> Richard: a resource can be in several collections, how do you manage this?

Richard Cyganiak: a resource can be in several collections, how do you manage this?

14:31:31 <sandro> cygri: more Not in Level Zero:   (1) removing things from a collection (is it the same as deleting), and (2) signaling what kinds of properties a new resource can/should have.

Richard Cyganiak: more Not in Level Zero: (1) removing things from a collection (is it the same as deleting), and (2) signaling what kinds of properties a new resource can/should have. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:31:37 <oberger> ericP: thx, obvious, but was in too much hurry

Eric Prud'hommeaux: thx, obvious, but was in too much hurry [ Scribe Assist by Olivier Berger ]

14:31:49 <Andras> Richard: can a client learn in advance what properties should be defined before inserting a new resource?

Richard Cyganiak: can a client learn in advance what properties should be defined before inserting a new resource?

14:32:24 <Andras> Sandro: these are for future considerations

Sandro Hawke: these are for future considerations

14:32:36 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

14:33:41 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q-

14:33:59 <sandro> sandro: Have you tried putting this list into the tracker, or the list in the charter?

Sandro Hawke: Have you tried putting this list into the tracker, or the list in the charter? [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:35:16 <Zakim> -??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P1

14:35:47 <Zakim> +??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1

14:35:51 <jkopecky> zakim, ??P1 is me

Jacek Kopecky: zakim, ??P1 is me

14:35:51 <Zakim> +jkopecky; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +jkopecky; got it

14:35:59 <ericP> q+ to ask if the LDBP UC&R <http://www.w3.org/Submission/2012/SUBM-ldbpucr-20120326/> were motivated by OSCL

Eric Prud'hommeaux: q+ to ask if the LDBP UC&R <http://www.w3.org/Submission/2012/SUBM-ldbpucr-20120326/> were motivated by OSCL

14:36:16 <oberger> ericP: s/OSCL/OSLC/

Eric Prud'hommeaux: s/OSCL/OSLC/ [ Scribe Assist by Olivier Berger ]

14:36:25 <Andras> Topic: list of issues in the charter

3. list of issues in the charter

14:37:06 <Andras> Does existing specs cover any of the issues?

Does existing specs cover any of the issues?

14:37:46 <bblfish> of course it helps to implement it to know what the issues are

Henry Story: of course it helps to implement it to know what the issues are

14:37:57 <bblfish> q+

Henry Story: q+

14:38:30 <Andras> issue numbers can be put into emails

issue numbers can be put into emails

14:38:45 <LeeF> q?

Lee Feigenbaum: q?

14:38:57 <ericP> ack me

Eric Prud'hommeaux: ack me

14:38:57 <Zakim> ericP, you wanted to ask if the LDBP UC&R <http://www.w3.org/Submission/2012/SUBM-ldbpucr-20120326/> were motivated by OSCL

Zakim IRC Bot: ericP, you wanted to ask if the LDBP UC&R <http://www.w3.org/Submission/2012/SUBM-ldbpucr-20120326/> were motivated by OSLC

14:38:59 <oberger> wb Arnaud

Olivier Berger: wb Arnaud

14:39:44 <JohnArwe> s/OSCL/OSLC/
14:39:56 <MacTed> ericP - those are already here -- http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Use_Cases_And_Requirements

Ted Thibodeau: ericP - those are already here -- http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Use_Cases_And_Requirements

14:39:57 <MacTed> and somewhat expanded already...

Ted Thibodeau: and somewhat expanded already...

14:40:49 <Andras> SteveS: some of the UC are from OSLC and they could be expanded

Steve Speicher: some of the UC are from OSLC and they could be expanded

14:40:50 <oberger> http://www.w3.org/Submission/2012/SUBM-ldbpucr-20120326/#oslc obviously is labeled purposely ? ;)

Olivier Berger: http://www.w3.org/Submission/2012/SUBM-ldbpucr-20120326/#oslc obviously is labeled purposely ? ;)

14:41:34 <ericP> ack next

Eric Prud'hommeaux: ack next

14:41:56 <SteveS> q+

Steve Speicher: q+

14:42:49 <Andras> Arnaud: please contribute to http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Use_Cases_And_Requirements

Arnaud Le Hors: please contribute to http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Use_Cases_And_Requirements

14:43:06 <oberger> SteveS: ;-)

Steve Speicher: ;-) [ Scribe Assist by Olivier Berger ]

14:44:26 <Andras> Henry: details come up when they start implementing the proposal

Henry Story: details come up when they start implementing the proposal

14:44:33 <AndyS1> q+

Andy Seaborne: q+

14:44:43 <Andras> but it will be totally re-written probably...

but it will be totally re-written probably...

14:45:11 <ericP> q+ to discuss the "hosting" use case, i.e. rewriting certain BNodes to URLs, potentially the graph URL

Eric Prud'hommeaux: q+ to discuss the "hosting" use case, i.e. rewriting certain BNodes to URLs, potentially the graph URL

14:45:13 <bblfish> q-

Henry Story: q-

14:45:50 <ericP> ack next

Eric Prud'hommeaux: ack next

14:45:51 <mhausenblas> q+ to ask re getting a quick overview on the overall direction

Michael Hausenblas: q+ to ask re getting a quick overview on the overall direction

14:46:31 <Andras> SteveS: implementation is coming

Steve Speicher: implementation is coming

14:47:15 <oberger> maybe that would be interesting to list in a page

Olivier Berger: maybe that would be interesting to list in a page

14:47:30 <Arnaud> ack andys

Arnaud Le Hors: ack andys

14:48:01 <Zakim> -Arnaud

Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud

14:48:06 <mhausenblas> +1 to Andy's point re what does EAI in this context mean (and how it is enabled through our work)

Michael Hausenblas: +1 to Andy's point re what does EAI in this context mean (and how it is enabled through our work)

14:48:11 <Andras> Andy: how it enables integration based on UC? IBM could comment

Andy Seaborne: how it enables integration based on UC? IBM could comment

14:48:52 <Arnaud> sorry can you hear me?

Arnaud Le Hors: sorry can you hear me?

14:49:29 <ArthurK> +1 to Andy's point about EAI

Arthur Keen: +1 to Andy's point about EAI

14:49:47 <Arnaud> dret, please, take over :-/

Arnaud Le Hors: dret, please, take over :-/

14:49:59 <Arnaud> my phone died somehow

Arnaud Le Hors: my phone died somehow

14:50:09 <mhausenblas> ack me

Michael Hausenblas: ack me

14:50:09 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to ask re getting a quick overview on the overall direction

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas, you wanted to ask re getting a quick overview on the overall direction

14:50:44 <oberger> SteveS: sounds reasonable

Steve Speicher: sounds reasonable [ Scribe Assist by Olivier Berger ]

14:50:52 <Andras> Michael: who would object to go forward with IBM submission?

Michael Hausenblas: who would object to go forward with IBM submission?

14:51:07 <Zakim> -jkopecky

Zakim IRC Bot: -jkopecky

14:51:10 <cygri> what do you mean by "go forward"?

Richard Cyganiak: what do you mean by "go forward"?

14:51:51 <Zakim> +Arnaud

Zakim IRC Bot: +Arnaud

14:52:52 <oberger> I'm not sure I understood what mhausenblas opinion is WRT to the submission... but maybe he hasn't mentioned ;)

Olivier Berger: I'm not sure I understood what mhausenblas opinion is WRT to the submission... but maybe he hasn't mentioned ;)

14:52:59 <bblfish> Michael is asking for a straw poll on who is generally positive about the IBM submission or who is more on something else

Henry Story: Michael is asking for a straw poll on who is generally positive about the IBM submission or who is more on something else

14:53:01 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

14:53:11 <Andras> zakim, who is talking?

zakim, who is talking?

14:53:16 <Zakim> +??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6

14:53:21 <Zakim> Andras, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Arnaud (86%), Sandro (24%), ericP (19%)

Zakim IRC Bot: Andras, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Arnaud (86%), Sandro (24%), ericP (19%)

14:53:47 <mhausenblas> Michael: as someone involved both in the chartering and supporting the IBM submission I agree with Eric

Michael Hausenblas: as someone involved both in the chartering and supporting the IBM submission I agree with Eric [ Scribe Assist by Michael Hausenblas ]

14:55:04 <MacTed> +1 sandro ... with those "concern points" being an easy list of issues to start into the Tracker

Ted Thibodeau: +1 sandro ... with those "concern points" being an easy list of issues to start into the Tracker

14:56:01 <Andras> telling the world this is what we're doing

telling the world this is what we're doing

14:56:12 <bblfish> sounds like a good idea, it will force much more careful reading

Henry Story: sounds like a good idea, it will force much more careful reading

14:56:35 <oberger> unless if done during time when too many people are on vacation ?

Olivier Berger: unless if done during time when too many people are on vacation ?

14:57:48 <Andras> publish current submission as first draft?

publish current submission as first draft?

14:57:49 <ericP> q?

Eric Prud'hommeaux: q?

14:58:24 <Andras> summertime may not be the best period

summertime may not be the best period

14:59:04 <ericP> q-

Eric Prud'hommeaux: q-

14:59:06 <ericP> q+

Eric Prud'hommeaux: q+

14:59:26 <bblfish> yes, the question is good: if we think what would it be if we were to publish the IBM draft as a working draft - makes one focus

Henry Story: yes, the question is good: if we think what would it be if we were to publish the IBM draft as a working draft - makes one focus

14:59:33 <ericP> -> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Use_Cases_And_Requirements#Hosting_POSTed_Resources Low Level use cas

Eric Prud'hommeaux: -> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Use_Cases_And_Requirements#Hosting_POSTed_Resources Low Level use cas

15:01:14 <oberger> ericP: OSLC-CM could provide guidance on that particular one

Eric Prud'hommeaux: OSLC-CM could provide guidance on that particular one [ Scribe Assist by Olivier Berger ]

15:01:31 <Andras> how to solve this using the current submission?

how to solve this using the current submission?

15:02:25 <SteveS> ericP this is already covered in LDBP as 5.4.8 http://www.w3.org/Submission/ldbp/#bpc-HTTP_POST but not with this example specifically

Steve Speicher: ericP this is already covered in LDBP as 5.4.8 http://www.w3.org/Submission/ldbp/#bpc-HTTP_POST but not with this example specifically

15:02:42 <Andras> Plenty of work to do: use cases, comments on submission, etc.

Plenty of work to do: use cases, comments on submission, etc.

15:02:58 <oberger> when's next time ?

Olivier Berger: when's next time ?

15:02:59 <SteveS> so within scope of original submission but maybe needs to be clarified or expanded

Steve Speicher: so within scope of original submission but maybe needs to be clarified or expanded

15:02:59 <bblfish> great. thanks.

Henry Story: great. thanks.

15:03:08 <oberger> bye

Olivier Berger: bye

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15:03:19 <Andras> bye

bye

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15:03:20 <JohnArwe> next time should be in +2 weeks, based on last call's decision

John Arwe: next time should be in +2 weeks, based on previous call's decision

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15:03:39 <Zakim> -ericP

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15:03:39 <JohnArwe> s/last call/previous call/
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15:13:22 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, jkopecky?, in SW_LDP()10:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: disconnecting the lone participant, jkopecky?, in SW_LDP()10:00AM

15:13:23 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended

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15:13:23 <Zakim> Attendees were +33.9.50.97.aaaa, LeeF, boris, AndyS1, Arnaud, SteveS, Sandro, MacTed, +1.804.991.aabb, JohnArwe, mhausenblas, krp, cygri, +1.937.775.aacc, boris, mkerrin,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +33.9.50.97.aaaa, LeeF, boris, AndyS1, Arnaud, SteveS, Sandro, MacTed, +1.804.991.aabb, JohnArwe, mhausenblas, krp, cygri, +1.937.775.aacc, boris, mkerrin,

15:13:23 <Zakim> ... +44.117.370.aadd, jkopecky?, Yves, ghard, ericP, Arthur, kalpa, Andras, oberger, jkopecky

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +44.117.370.aadd, jkopecky?, Yves, ghard, ericP, Arthur, kalpa, Andras, oberger, jkopecky



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