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Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 24 October 2013

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20131024
Seen
Boris Villazón-Terrazas, Deirdre Lee, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, Joao Almeida, Phil Archer, Sandro Hawke, Ted Thibodeau
Scribe
Deirdre Lee
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Advance DCAT to Candidate Recommendation, with the exit criteria of each term in the dcat namespace being properly used by two or more data sources link
Topics
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13:58:24 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:58:24 <trackbot> Date: 24 October 2013
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14:00:28 <HadleyBeeman1> Thanks, Sandro :)

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14:00:30 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD

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14:00:31 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:00:31 <trackbot> Date: 24 October 2013
14:00:41 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, drop hadleybeeman

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14:00:41 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman1, I don't know what conference this is

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14:00:48 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, this is gld

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14:00:48 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman1, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be gld".

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14:00:50 <TallTed> Zakim, this is gld

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14:00:50 <Zakim> TallTed, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be gld".

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14:00:55 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, this will be gld

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14:00:55 <Zakim> ok, HadleyBeeman1; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start now

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14:01:02 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, drop hadleybeeman

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14:01:03 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman1, I don't know what conference this is

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14:01:39 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, this is gld

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14:01:39 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman1, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be gld".

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14:01:44 <HadleyBeeman1> zakim, this will be gld

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14:01:44 <Zakim> ok, HadleyBeeman1; I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM scheduled to start now

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14:01:50 <Zakim> +Sandro

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14:01:53 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

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14:01:54 <Zakim> -Sandro

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14:01:54 <Zakim> +Sandro

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14:01:56 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

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14:02:04 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

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14:02:27 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

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14:02:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see TallTed (muted), Sandro, HadleyBeeman

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14:02:41 <gatemezin> Zakim, mute me

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14:02:41 <Zakim> sorry, gatemezin, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

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14:02:42 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:03:30 <Zakim> + +34.60.062.aaaa

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14:03:41 <boris> zakim, aaaa is boris

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14:03:42 <Zakim> +boris; got it

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14:03:43 <gatemezin> Hi all.. sorry I will be on irc..

Ghislain Atemezing: Hi all.. sorry I will be on irc..

14:04:28 <hadleybeeman> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20131024
14:05:16 <TallTed> TallTed has changed the topic to: GLD-WG - latest agenda http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20131024

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14:06:30 <hadleybeeman> zakim, who is on the call?

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14:06:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see TallTed (muted), Sandro, HadleyBeeman, [IPcaller], boris

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14:06:32 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

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14:06:33 <Zakim> On the phone I see TallTed (muted), Sandro, HadleyBeeman, [IPcaller], boris

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14:06:44 <sandro> zakim, ipcaller is DeirdreLee

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14:06:44 <Zakim> +DeirdreLee; got it

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14:07:08 <sandro> gatemezin, JoaoPauloAlmeida  you folks calling in?

Sandro Hawke: gatemezin, JoaoPauloAlmeida you folks calling in?

14:07:25 <sandro> scribe: DeirdreLee

(Scribe set to Deirdre Lee)

14:07:35 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> sorry I need to leave

Joao Almeida: sorry I need to leave

14:07:49 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I messed up the daylight saving time

Joao Almeida: I messed up the daylight saving time

14:07:53 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> my apologies

Joao Almeida: my apologies

14:08:15 <sandro> no worries

Sandro Hawke: no worries

14:09:56 <DeirdreLee> DeirdreLee: Fadi commits to one implementation for DCAT, probably on Irish Open Data that we've already been working on

Deirdre Lee: Fadi commits to one implementation for DCAT, probably on Irish Open Data that we've already been working on

14:11:43 <DeirdreLee> ACTION: hadleybeeman to follow-up with fadmaa and johnerickson on whether there are commitments for DCAT implementations

ACTION: hadleybeeman to follow-up with fadmaa and johnerickson on whether there are commitments for DCAT implementations

14:11:43 <trackbot> Error finding 'hadleybeeman'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users>.

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14:12:22 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: based on timeline, we have to decide in today's call whether we are proceeding to REC track

@sandro: based on timeline, we have to decide in today's call whether we are proceeding to REC track

14:12:26 <gatemezin> sandro , yesp. I called before but I was not able to listen the conf. So I dropped the call

Ghislain Atemezing: sandro , yes. I called before but I was not able to listen the conf. So I dropped the call

14:12:34 <gatemezin> s/yesp/yes
14:12:54 <DeirdreLee> hadleybeeman: there is a commitment from DERI, but not another commitment confirmed

Hadley Beeman: there is a commitment from DERI, but not another commitment confirmed

14:14:42 <DeirdreLee> .. correction, there is another commitment confirmed from John Erickson

.. correction, there is another commitment confirmed from John Erickson

14:15:52 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: comment on spec from Tom Baker on DCAT spec & profile - will this effect moving to REC track? probably not, as it is more an editorial issue

@sandro: comment on spec from Tom Baker on DCAT spec & profile - will this effect moving to REC track? probably not, as it is more an editorial issue

14:16:44 <boris> q?

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: q?

14:16:50 <boris> q+

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: q+

14:17:10 <DeirdreLee> hadleybeeman: commitment from bhyland to have updated version of best practice doc by 10th November

Hadley Beeman: commitment from bhyland to have updated version of best practice doc by 10th November

14:17:19 <sandro> ack boris

Sandro Hawke: ack boris

14:17:19 <hadleybeeman> ack boris

Hadley Beeman: ack boris

14:18:09 <DeirdreLee> boris: I was talking to ghislain about best practice document. What is the deadline for the updated version of this doc?

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: I was talking to ghislain about best practice document. What is the deadline for the updated version of this doc?

14:18:48 <DeirdreLee> hadleybeeman: absolute deadline is the end of the year, but it would be good to have an updated version well enough in advance to account for feedback & review

Hadley Beeman: absolute deadline is the end of the year, but it would be good to have an updated version well enough in advance to account for feedback & review

14:19:32 <gatemezin> +1 to have an updated version (almost final) version by mid November

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to have an updated version (almost final) version by mid November

14:19:35 <DeirdreLee> boris: the URI section and xx section will be improved on in the document

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: the URI section and SKOS section will be improved on in the document

14:20:04 <gatemezin> s/xx/SKOS
14:20:55 <DeirdreLee> hadleybeeman: it would be great to finalise this document and have it approved as a WG Note by 3rd wk of Dec, so the final draft should be ready a month before, so 3rd week of Nov,

Hadley Beeman: it would be great to finalise this document and have it approved as a WG Note by 3rd wk of Dec, so the final draft should be ready a month before, so 3rd week of Nov,

14:21:30 <DeirdreLee> .. so in order to allow for group discussion, the draft should be ready by 10th Nov

.. so in order to allow for group discussion, the draft should be ready by 10th Nov

14:23:56 <DeirdreLee> @sandro if needs be, we could skip the public draft stage

@sandro if needs be, we could skip the public draft stage

14:25:01 <DeirdreLee> @hadleybeeman is any other help needed for best practice doc?

@hadleybeeman is any other help needed for best practice doc?

14:25:19 <sandro> PROPOSED: Advance DCAT to Candidate Recommendation, with the exit criteria of each term dcat namespace being properly used by two or more data sources

PROPOSED: Advance DCAT to Candidate Recommendation, with the exit criteria of each term dcat namespace being properly used by two or more data sources

14:25:23 <DeirdreLee> @boris not yet, editors will work on it first and then get back to us

@boris not yet, editors will work on it first and then get back to us

14:25:33 <sandro> PROPOSED: Advance DCAT to Candidate Recommendation, with the exit criteria of each term in the dcat namespace being properly used by two or more data sources

PROPOSED: Advance DCAT to Candidate Recommendation, with the exit criteria of each term in the dcat namespace being properly used by two or more data sources

14:27:09 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: how terms from other vocabularies are been used with dcat should not effect the exit criteria, difference between if we're evaluation the DCAT spec or profile

@sandro: how terms from other vocabularies are been used with dcat should not effect the exit criteria, difference between if we're evaluation the DCAT spec or profile

14:27:38 <TallTed> +1 as sandro suggests, i.e., track (profile-based) DCAT usage broadly, with narrower (vocab-based) exit criteria

Ted Thibodeau: +1 as sandro suggests, i.e., track (profile-based) DCAT usage broadly, with narrower (vocab-based) exit criteria

14:27:48 <DeirdreLee> hadleybeeman: if having a separate spec and profile is causing us trouble, perhaps this will also cause issues in the transition meeting

Hadley Beeman: if having a separate spec and profile is causing us trouble, perhaps this will also cause issues in the transition meeting

14:28:18 <gatemezin> +1 to Sandro proposal ... I will try to help consumers like this one opendata.montpelliernumerique.fr/Les-donnees?format=rdf to use the latest version of DCAT.

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to Sandro proposal ... I will try to help consumers like this one opendata.montpelliernumerique.fr/Les-donnees?format=rdf to use the latest version of DCAT.

14:28:36 <gatemezin> ..I hope to convince them ;-)

Ghislain Atemezing: ..I hope to convince them ;-)

14:30:04 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: we need to discuss practical details of implementation and exit. But fadmaa is needed for this conversation

@sandro: we need to discuss practical details of implementation and exit. But fadmaa is needed for this conversation

14:30:14 <DeirdreLee> a?

a?

14:30:16 <DeirdreLee> q?

q?

14:30:20 <DeirdreLee> q+

q+

14:33:08 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: can hadleybeeman do the transition request?

@sandro: can hadleybeeman do the transition request?

14:33:52 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: most difficult part is to go through comments page and write a couple of paragraphs of an overview, and just make sure everything has been addressed

@sandro: most difficult part is to go through comments page and write a couple of paragraphs of an overview, and just make sure everything has been addressed

14:34:46 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

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14:34:55 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is me

14:34:55 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it

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14:36:39 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: describes Tom Baker's comment..

@sandro: describes Tom Baker's comment..

14:37:12 <DeirdreLee> .. don't think it's a blocking issue, shouldn't stop us doing CR today, but should be addressed

.. don't think it's a blocking issue, shouldn't stop us doing CR today, but should be addressed

14:38:08 <DeirdreLee> PhilA: in two months time it's christmas eve :)

Phil Archer: in two months time it's christmas eve :)

14:38:48 <DeirdreLee> hadleybeeman: makes sense to have conversation with Fadi and John present

Hadley Beeman: makes sense to have conversation with Fadi and John present

14:39:20 <DeirdreLee> PhilA: issue isn't specific to DCAT, it's an ongoing issue of how vocabularies/profiles fit together

Phil Archer: issue isn't specific to DCAT, it's an ongoing issue of how vocabularies/profiles fit together

14:40:46 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: investigating what public data sources w3c have and could implement as DCAT....will look into it further

@sandro: investigating what public data sources w3c have and could implement as DCAT....will look into it further

14:42:24 <gatemezin> @Sandro, It could be great that work... If you need a volunteer for that, I am IN ;-)

Ghislain Atemezing: @Sandro, It could be great that work... If you need a volunteer for that, I am IN ;-)

14:42:29 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: the proposal wasn't on the agenda, so people weren't given chance to attend and voice opinion specifically

@sandro: the proposal wasn't on the agenda, so people weren't given chance to attend and voice opinion specifically

14:43:09 <DeirdreLee> .. will follow up with an email after for people to write their +1s or to object

.. will follow up with an email after for people to write their +1s or to object

14:43:18 <hadleybeeman> PROPOSED: Advance DCAT to Candidate Recommendation, with the exit criteria of each term in the dcat namespace being properly used by two or more data sources. (as typed above)

PROPOSED: Advance DCAT to Candidate Recommendation, with the exit criteria of each term in the dcat namespace being properly used by two or more data sources. (as typed above)

14:43:22 <DeirdreLee> @sandro: +1

@sandro: +1

14:43:24 <hadleybeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

14:43:26 <DeirdreLee> +1

+1

14:43:27 <PhilA> +1

Phil Archer: +1

14:43:29 <boris> +1

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: +1

14:43:33 <TallTed> +1

Ted Thibodeau: +1

14:43:48 <PhilA> yay!

Phil Archer: yay!

14:43:54 <gatemezin> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:44:02 <hadleybeeman> RESOLVED: Advance DCAT to Candidate Recommendation, with the exit criteria of each term in the dcat namespace being properly used by two or more data sources

RESOLVED: Advance DCAT to Candidate Recommendation, with the exit criteria of each term in the dcat namespace being properly used by two or more data sources

14:48:16 <Zakim> -PhilA

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14:48:19 <Zakim> -TallTed

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14:48:25 <Zakim> -boris

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14:48:50 <Zakim> -Sandro

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14:49:01 <DeirdreLee> rrsagent, generate minutes

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14:49:17 <DeirdreLee> ack DeirdreLee

ack DeirdreLee

14:49:50 <DeirdreLee> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-10-24

http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-10-24

14:52:07 <Zakim> -DeirdreLee

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14:52:08 <Zakim> Attendees were Sandro, HadleyBeeman, TallTed, +34.60.062.aaaa, boris, DeirdreLee, PhilA

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15:07:35 <hadleybeeman> bye, zakim

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15:07:47 <hadleybeeman> zakim, you are excused

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15:07:54 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/10/24-gld-actions.rdf :

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15:07:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: hadleybeeman to follow-up with fadmaa and johnerickson on whether there are commitments for DCAT implementations [1]

ACTION: hadleybeeman to follow-up with fadmaa and johnerickson on whether there are commitments for DCAT implementations [1]

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