Meeting Record

Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 27 September 2012

Agenda

http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120927

Seen

Bart van Leeuwen, Bernadette Hyland, Dave Reynolds, Deirdre Lee, Fadi Maali, Ghislain Atemezing, Martín Álvarez, Michael Hausenblas, Michael Pendleton, Phil Archer, Richard Cyganiak, Sandro Hawke, Tina Gheen, Unknown PhilA2.a, Unknown Sandro.a, Yigal Arens

Scribe

Deirdre Lee

IRC Log

Original

Resolutions

Close ISSUE-4 saying "No", but we'll include usage notes link
Close ISSUE-5 with no action. link
move ISSUE-6 from DCAT to BP, and add ACTION to a DCAT editor on putting in a link link
Close ISSUE-7, no action, keeping accessUrl as it's still needed. link

Topics

Working towards getting deliverables to LC status
Org Vocab
DCAT
Deliverables Schedule
ISA Programme vocabs

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13:58:43 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/09/27-gld-irc

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13:58:45 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←

13:58:47 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be GLD ←

13:58:47 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started ←

13:58:48 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

13:58:48 <trackbot> Date: 27 September 2012

13:59:03 <bhyland> Good morning & afternoon all

Bernadette Hyland: Good morning & afternoon all ←

13:59:05 <bhyland> Agenda:

13:59:07 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120927

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120927 ←

13:59:27 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←

13:59:41 <Zakim> + +3539149aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +3539149aabb ←

13:59:52 <mhausenblas> Zakim, aabb is me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, aabb is me ←

13:59:53 <Zakim> +mhausenblas; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas; got it ←

14:00:00 <Zakim> + +3539149aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +3539149aacc ←

14:00:08 <bhyland> GT had last minute work obligation and asked me to chair today's meeting

Bernadette Hyland: GT had last minute work obligation and asked me to chair today's meeting ←

14:00:39 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is with me

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, cygri is with me ←

14:00:39 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it ←

14:00:48 <Zakim> +??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8 ←

14:01:06 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p8 is me

Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p8 is me ←

14:01:06 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it ←

14:01:59 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.4.93.00.aadd ←

14:02:33 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←

14:02:33 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, mhausenblas, +3539149aacc, BartvanLeeuwen, +33.4.93.00.aadd, +1.540.898.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, mhausenblas, +3539149aacc, BartvanLeeuwen, +33.4.93.00.aadd, +1.540.898.aaaa ←

14:02:36 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri ←

14:02:38 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.4.93.00.aaee ←

14:02:56 <DeirdreLee> Zakim, +3539149aacc is me

Deirdre Lee: Zakim, +3539149aacc is me ←

14:02:56 <Zakim> +DeirdreLee; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +DeirdreLee; got it ←

14:03:03 <bhyland> zakim, aaaa is me

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aaaa is me ←

14:03:03 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bhyland; got it ←

14:03:17 <gatemezi> Zakim, +33.4.93.00.aadd is me

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, +33.4.93.00.aadd is me ←

14:03:17 <Zakim> +gatemezi; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +gatemezi; got it ←

14:03:21 <fadmaa> Zakim, fadmaa is with DeirdreLee

Fadi Maali: Zakim, fadmaa is with DeirdreLee ←

14:03:21 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +fadmaa; got it ←

14:03:52 <Zakim> +??P22

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P22 ←

14:04:06 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←

14:04:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, mhausenblas, DeirdreLee, BartvanLeeuwen, gatemezi, +33.4.93.00.aaee, DaveReynolds, bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, mhausenblas, DeirdreLee, BartvanLeeuwen, gatemezi, +33.4.93.00.aaee, DaveReynolds, bhyland ←

14:04:09 <Zakim> DeirdreLee has DeirdreLee, fadmaa

Zakim IRC Bot: DeirdreLee has DeirdreLee, fadmaa ←

14:04:09 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri ←

14:04:27 <PhilA2> zakim, I'm going to call back in since you didn't recognise my call

Phil Archer: zakim, I'm going to call back in since you didn't recognise my call ←

14:04:27 <Zakim> I don't understand you, PhilA2

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand you, PhilA2 ←

14:04:32 <bhyland> zakim, aaee is gatemezi

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aaee is gatemezi ←

14:04:34 <Zakim> +gatemezi; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +gatemezi; got it ←

14:04:38 <Zakim> -gatemezi

Zakim IRC Bot: -gatemezi ←

14:04:57 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←

14:04:57 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, mhausenblas, DeirdreLee, BartvanLeeuwen, gatemezi.a, DaveReynolds, bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, mhausenblas, DeirdreLee, BartvanLeeuwen, gatemezi.a, DaveReynolds, bhyland ←

14:05:00 <Zakim> DeirdreLee has DeirdreLee, fadmaa

Zakim IRC Bot: DeirdreLee has DeirdreLee, fadmaa ←

14:05:02 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri ←

14:05:05 <Zakim> +??P16

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P16 ←

14:05:08 <Zakim> +??P29

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P29 ←

14:05:11 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P16 is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ??P16 is me ←

14:05:13 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA2; got it ←

14:05:14 <martinAlvarez> zakim, ??P16 is me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??P16 is me ←

14:05:14 <Zakim> I already had ??P16 as PhilA2, martinAlvarez

Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P16 as PhilA2, martinAlvarez ←

14:05:15 <fadmaa> Zakim, Gofran is with DeirdreLee

Fadi Maali: Zakim, Gofran is with DeirdreLee ←

14:05:16 <Zakim> +Gofran; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Gofran; got it ←

14:05:27 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P29 is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ??P29 is me ←

14:05:27 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA2; got it ←

14:05:35 <PhilA2> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←

14:05:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, mhausenblas, DeirdreLee, BartvanLeeuwen, gatemezi.a, DaveReynolds, PhilA2, PhilA2.a, bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, mhausenblas, DeirdreLee, BartvanLeeuwen, gatemezi.a, DaveReynolds, PhilA2, PhilA2.a, bhyland ←

14:05:37 <Zakim> DeirdreLee has DeirdreLee, fadmaa, Gofran

Zakim IRC Bot: DeirdreLee has DeirdreLee, fadmaa, Gofran ←

14:05:37 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri ←

14:05:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see cygri, Gofran, martinAlvarez, fadmaa, gatemezi, DaveReynolds, PhilA2, Zakim, RRSAgent, bhyland, DeirdreLee, BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, trackbot, danbri, mhausenblas,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see cygri, Gofran, martinAlvarez, fadmaa, gatemezi, DaveReynolds, PhilA2, Zakim, RRSAgent, bhyland, DeirdreLee, BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, trackbot, danbri, mhausenblas, ←

14:05:40 <Zakim> ... sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... sandro ←

14:05:51 <gatemezi> Zakim, gatemezi.a is me

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, gatemezi.a is me ←

14:05:52 <Zakim> +gatemezi; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +gatemezi; got it ←

14:05:58 <martinAlvarez> zakim, mute me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, mute me ←

14:06:00 <Zakim> sorry, martinAlvarez, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, martinAlvarez, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←

14:06:09 <martinAlvarez> zakim, ??P16 is me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??P16 is me ←

14:06:11 <Zakim> I already had ??P16 as PhilA2, martinAlvarez

Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P16 as PhilA2, martinAlvarez ←

14:06:15 <Zakim> +Mike_Pendleton

Zakim IRC Bot: +Mike_Pendleton ←

14:06:43 <mhausenblas> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120927

14:06:45 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←

14:07:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, mhausenblas, DeirdreLee, BartvanLeeuwen, gatemezi, DaveReynolds, PhilA2, PhilA2.a, Mike_Pendleton, bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, mhausenblas, DeirdreLee, BartvanLeeuwen, gatemezi, DaveReynolds, PhilA2, PhilA2.a, Mike_Pendleton, bhyland ←

14:07:18 <Zakim> DeirdreLee has DeirdreLee, fadmaa, Gofran

Zakim IRC Bot: DeirdreLee has DeirdreLee, fadmaa, Gofran ←

14:07:20 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri ←

14:08:06 <bhyland> Please confirm last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-09-20

Bernadette Hyland: Please confirm last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-09-20 ←

14:08:09 <mhausenblas> +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1 ←

14:08:15 <DeirdreLee> Scribe: DeirdreLee

(Scribe set to Deirdre Lee)

14:08:15 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120927

Sandro Hawke: sandro has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120927 ←

14:08:15 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←

14:08:53 <PhilA2> +1 to last week's minutes

Phil Archer: +1 to last week's minutes ←

14:09:25 <DeirdreLee> Chris Beer has just joined GLD WG

Chris Beer has just joined GLD WG ←

14:09:52 <Zakim> +[LC]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[LC] ←

14:10:00 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me

Tina Gheen: Zakim, [LC] is me ←

14:10:00 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +tinagheen; got it ←

14:10:05 <PhilA2> Public spending http://publicspending.medialab.ntua.gr/

Phil Archer: Public spending http://publicspending.medialab.ntua.gr/ ←

14:10:21 <DeirdreLee> There are also two other new members

There are also two other new members ←

14:10:56 <DeirdreLee> Vassilios Peristeras is an invited expert

Vassilios Peristeras is an invited expert ←

14:10:57 <bhyland> Welcome to the new IEs: Chris Beer,  Agis Papantoniou, and Vassilios

Bernadette Hyland: Welcome to the new IEs: Chris Beer, Agis Papantoniou, and Vassilios ←

14:11:28 <PhilA2> Agis Papantoniou shows up on ICR as agipap

Phil Archer: Agis Papantoniou shows up on IRC as agipap ←

14:11:36 <PhilA2> s/ICR/IRC/

14:12:12 <DeirdreLee> Topic: Working towards getting deliverables to LC status

1. Working towards getting deliverables to LC status

14:12:30 <gatemezi> Zakim, mute me

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, mute me ←

14:12:30 <Zakim> gatemezi should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: gatemezi should now be muted ←

14:12:40 <DeirdreLee> bhyland: is there sufficient interest in the group and enough work being done to justify an extension

Bernadette Hyland: is there sufficient interest in the group and enough work being done to justify an extension ←

14:13:03 <DeirdreLee> ... cygri emailed summary of deliverables and status to list

... cygri emailed summary of deliverables and status to list ←

14:13:20 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:13:22 <DeirdreLee> ... could those named in that summary discuss status

... could those named in that summary discuss status ←

14:13:23 <cygri> the deliverables summary is here btw: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Deliverables

Richard Cyganiak: the deliverables summary is here btw: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Deliverables ←

14:13:29 <bhyland> Topics: Org Vocab

2. Org Vocab

14:13:37 <bhyland> s/Topics/Topic

14:14:05 <DeirdreLee> DaveReynolds: developed originally outside of WG

Dave Reynolds: developed originally outside of WG ←

14:14:11 <bhyland> DaveReynolds: Mature and used vocab but there were changes suggested by Bart ...

Dave Reynolds: Mature and used vocab but there were changes suggested by Bart ... [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

14:14:25 <DeirdreLee> ... feedback from Bart on how vocab could be updated

... feedback from BartvanLeeuwen on how vocab could be updated ←

14:14:50 <gatemezi> s/Bart/BartvanLeeuwen

14:14:52 <bhyland> ORG Vocab FPWD here http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-org/

Bernadette Hyland: ORG Vocab FPWD here http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-org/ ←

14:14:53 <DaveReynolds> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Sep/0030.html and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Sep/0031.html

Dave Reynolds: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Sep/0030.html and http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Sep/0031.html ←

14:14:58 <DeirdreLee> ... need to define role within ORG

... need to define role within ORG ←

14:14:58 <Zakim> +Sandro.a

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro.a ←

14:15:50 <DeirdreLee> ... longest use of ORG is from UK government publishing data periodically

... longest use of ORG is from UK government publishing data periodically ←

14:16:02 <PhilA2> -> http://data.gov.uk/organogram UK Government Organograms

Phil Archer: -> http://data.gov.uk/organogram UK Government Organograms ←

14:16:16 <DeirdreLee> ... Jeni Tenison carried out work on this

... Jeni Tenison carried out work on this ←

14:16:39 <DeirdreLee> ... it may be worth finalising, based on usage by Bart and Jeni

... it may be worth finalising, based on usage by Bart and Jeni ←

14:17:00 <Zakim> +??P27

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27 ←

14:17:01 <DeirdreLee> ... incorporate Jeni's extension into ORG

... incorporate Jeni's extension into ORG ←

14:17:10 <Yigal> zakim, ??P27 is me

Yigal Arens: zakim, ??P27 is me ←

14:17:10 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal; got it ←

14:17:13 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←

14:17:13 <Zakim> On the phone I see Sandro, mhausenblas, DeirdreLee, BartvanLeeuwen, gatemezi (muted), DaveReynolds, PhilA2, PhilA2.a, Mike_Pendleton, tinagheen, Sandro.a, Yigal, bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Sandro, mhausenblas, DeirdreLee, BartvanLeeuwen, gatemezi (muted), DaveReynolds, PhilA2, PhilA2.a, Mike_Pendleton, tinagheen, Sandro.a, Yigal, bhyland ←

14:17:16 <Zakim> DeirdreLee has DeirdreLee, fadmaa, Gofran

Zakim IRC Bot: DeirdreLee has DeirdreLee, fadmaa, Gofran ←

14:17:16 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri ←

14:17:42 <DeirdreLee> ... extension based around role and post

... extension based around role and post ←

14:18:39 <DeirdreLee> ... this overlaps with some of ORG, so have to decide how to incorporate/integrate it

... this overlaps with some of ORG, so have to decide how to incorporate/integrate it ←

14:18:49 <DeirdreLee> ... recommendations should have to be included

... recommendations should have to be included ←

14:19:18 <mhausenblas> Michael: Would be happy to go to LC with that

Michael Hausenblas: Would be happy to go to LC with that [ Scribe Assist by Michael Hausenblas ] ←

14:19:47 <DeirdreLee> ... asks should there be another  working draft version or could we go straight to LC with these changes

... asks should there be another working draft version or could we go straight to LC with these changes ←

14:20:29 <PhilA2> q+

Phil Archer: q+ ←

14:20:47 <mhausenblas> q+ to say just waiting for a proposal from DaveReynolds ;)

Michael Hausenblas: q+ to say just waiting for a proposal from DaveReynolds ;) ←

14:20:58 <bhyland> Bart feels satisfied with the changes that DaveReynolds

Bernadette Hyland: Bart feels satisfied with the changes that DaveReynolds ←

14:21:02 <bhyland> mentioned

Bernadette Hyland: mentioned ←

14:21:43 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q? ←

14:21:53 <DeirdreLee> bhyland: as long as the issues that have been raised have been considered/addressed, there may not be a need for another FPWD

Bernadette Hyland: as long as the issues that have been raised have been considered/addressed, there may not be a need for another FPWD ←

14:22:13 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+

Bart van Leeuwen: q+ ←

14:22:32 <bhyland> Sandro: If we say it is ready to LC, that means everyone in the WG has considered it & made whatever comments they wish to make.

Sandro Hawke: If we say it is ready to LC, that means everyone in the WG has considered it & made whatever comments they wish to make. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

14:22:34 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:22:44 <mhausenblas> ack PhilA

Michael Hausenblas: ack PhilA ←

14:22:45 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q? ←

14:22:49 <DeirdreLee> DaveReynolds: agrees with Bernadette. Highlights that once the document goes to LC, all comments should have been made

Dave Reynolds: agrees with Bernadette. Highlights that once the document goes to LC, all comments should have been made ←

14:23:07 <DeirdreLee> PhilA2: Is there still writing to be done on ORG?

Phil Archer: Is there still writing to be done on ORG? ←

14:23:34 <DeirdreLee> DaveReynolds: there is still some writing to be done

Dave Reynolds: there is still some writing to be done ←

14:24:15 <DeirdreLee> ... suggests that this writing is finalised, and there is then sent to list for review, and then lt document go to LC

... suggests that this writing is finalised, and there is then sent to list for review, and then lt document go to LC ←

14:24:31 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:24:33 <mhausenblas> Michael: based on http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#last-call

Michael Hausenblas: based on http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#last-call [ Scribe Assist by Michael Hausenblas ] ←

14:24:35 <mhausenblas> ack me

Michael Hausenblas: ack me ←

14:24:35 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to say just waiting for a proposal from DaveReynolds ;)

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas, you wanted to say just waiting for a proposal from DaveReynolds ;) ←

14:25:18 <DeirdreLee> mhausenblas: confirms that LC means the requirements has been met in terms of charter and dependencies on other groups has been satisfied

Michael Hausenblas: confirms that LC means the requirements has been met in terms of charter and dependencies on other groups has been satisfied ←

14:25:28 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:25:30 <BartvanLeeuwen> ack me

Bart van Leeuwen: ack me ←

14:25:32 <PhilA2> q+ to talk about implementations other than UK gov

Phil Archer: q+ to talk about implementations other than UK gov ←

14:26:05 <DeirdreLee> ... once this is the case, Dave could push for LC

... once this is the case, Dave could push for LC ←

14:26:16 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:26:19 <PhilA2> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me ←

14:26:19 <Zakim> PhilA, you wanted to talk about implementations other than UK gov

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, you wanted to talk about implementations other than UK gov ←

14:26:38 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+

Bart van Leeuwen: q+ ←

14:26:59 <DeirdreLee> PhilA: Do we know of an implmentation of ORG other than UK government organograms?

Phil Archer: Do we know of an implmentation of ORG other than UK government organograms? ←

14:27:12 <DeirdreLee> ... in order to get to LC we need at lest 2

... in order to get to LC we need at lest 2 ←

14:27:23 <bhyland> PhilA2: Asked whether there are any other reference implementations for ORG besides UK Organograms project

Phil Archer: Asked whether there are any other reference implementations for ORG besides UK Organograms project [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

14:27:27 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:27:34 <DeirdreLee> DaveReynolds:  There have been other uses, but doesn't know if they are public

Dave Reynolds: There have been other uses, but doesn't know if they are public ←

14:27:56 <bhyland> MartinAlvarez: Said there are two implementation in Spain … Martin to add links.

Martín Álvarez: Said there are two implementation in Spain … Martin to add links. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

14:28:02 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:28:06 <DeirdreLee> MartinAlvarez: It has been used by the andalucia government and in the Spanish OD initiative

Martín Álvarez: It has been used by the andalucia government and in the Spanish OD initiative ←

14:28:26 <bhyland> ack Bart

Bernadette Hyland: ack Bart ←

14:28:54 <gatemezi> Here http://data.lirmm.fr/ontologies/sp in France,

Ghislain Atemezing: Here http://data.lirmm.fr/ontologies/sp in France, ←

14:29:02 <DeirdreLee> BartvanLeeuwen: is involved in a disaster-managment project that plans to use ORG vocabulary

Bart van Leeuwen: is involved in a disaster-managment project that plans to use ORG vocabulary ←

14:29:04 <gatemezi> you have also a ude -case of Org voca

Ghislain Atemezing: you have also a ude -case of Org vocab ←

14:29:10 <gatemezi> s/voca/vocab

14:29:19 <martinAlvarez> Andalussian Open Data: [http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/datosabiertos/portal.html] (Datasets are not public yet, but in process)

Martín Álvarez: Andalussian Open Data: [http://www.juntadeandalucia.es/datosabiertos/portal.html] (Datasets are not public yet, but in process) ←

14:30:03 <DeirdreLee> bhyland: Can Dave specify a date when all these updates will be made?

Bernadette Hyland: Can Dave specify a date when all these updates will be made? ←

14:30:03 <PhilA2> So when we get to CR we should be sitting in clover

Phil Archer: So when we get to CR we should be sitting in clover ←

14:30:22 <DeirdreLee> DaveReynolds: Has just received a comment from Chris Beer, needs time to incorporate these

Dave Reynolds: Has just received a comment from Chris Beer, needs time to incorporate these ←

14:30:49 <DeirdreLee> ... aims to send out a revised document by next Thursday's meeting, so we can take a vote by the following Thursday

... aims to send out a revised document by next Thursday's meeting, so we can take a vote by the following Thursday ←

14:31:03 <martinAlvarez> Spanish Open Data  [http://datos.gob.es] will publish these data as well

Martín Álvarez: Spanish Open Data [http://datos.gob.es] will publish these data as well ←

14:31:04 <bhyland> … suggested appointing a Reviewer

Bernadette Hyland: … suggested appointing a Reviewer ←

14:31:07 <DeirdreLee> ... should we point to a reviewer now?

... should we point to a reviewer now? ←

14:32:20 <DeirdreLee> ... a reviewer is one or two people who are appointed to read the document, both for content and typo purposes, before LC version is published

... a reviewer is one or two people who are appointed to read the document, both for content and typo purposes, before LC version is published ←

14:32:38 <bhyland> Process note: 1-2 reviewers appointed to ensure QA within GLD WG … to avoid typos and glaring errors before going to LC

Bernadette Hyland: Process note: 1-2 reviewers appointed to ensure QA within GLD WG … to avoid typos and glaring errors before going to LC ←

14:33:23 <cygri> zakim, pick a victim

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, pick a victim ←

14:33:23 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose mhausenblas ←

14:33:25 <mhausenblas> Zakim, pick a victim

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, pick a victim ←

14:33:26 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose BartvanLeeuwen

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose BartvanLeeuwen ←

14:34:05 <bhyland> Many thanks to Bart and Michael for agreeing to be Reviewers.

Bernadette Hyland: Many thanks to Bart and Michael for agreeing to be Reviewers. ←

14:34:18 <mhausenblas> Michael: You're *very* welcome

Michael Hausenblas: You're *very* welcome [ Scribe Assist by Michael Hausenblas ] ←

14:35:03 <DeirdreLee> bhyland: will read as native english speaker and as a potential user and as chaire

Bernadette Hyland: will read as native english speaker and as a potential user and as chair ←

14:35:15 <DeirdreLee> s/chaire/chair

14:36:30 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:36:39 <bhyland> Woohoo!

Bernadette Hyland: Woohoo! ←

14:37:13 <DeirdreLee> Topic: DCAT

3. DCAT

14:37:53 <bhyland> Yes please Deirdre!

Bernadette Hyland: Yes please Deirdre! ←

14:38:17 <bhyland> two actions really, one for Dave, second as reviewers for Michael, Bart and me

Bernadette Hyland: two actions really, one for Dave, second as reviewers for Michael, Bart and me ←

14:38:20 <DeirdreLee> fadmaa: suggests to go through the issues in dcat and try and clear them

Fadi Maali: suggests to go through the issues in dcat and try and clear them ←

14:38:52 <bhyland> Fadi proposed going through tracker re: DCAT see https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/2

Bernadette Hyland: Fadi proposed going through tracker re: DCAT see https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/2 ←

14:39:22 <Zakim> -Sandro.a

Scribe problem: the name 'Sandro.a' does not match any of the 64 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Caroline Burle Chris Beer Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila Dave Reynolds David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Deirdre Lee Denise Warzel Elena Montiel Ponsoda Eric VonColln Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Gofran Shukair Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raj Singh Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yaso Córdova Yigal Arens Yosuke Funahashi Zachary Whitley Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro.a ←

14:39:54 <cygri> ISSUE-4?

Richard Cyganiak: ISSUE-4? ←

14:39:54 <trackbot> ISSUE-4 -- Should we define ranges for other people's vocabularies? -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-4 -- Should we define ranges for other people's vocabularies? -- raised ←

14:39:54 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/4

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/4 ←

14:40:24 <DeirdreLee> suggestion: close issue with no actions   reason: based on the related discussion it seems that this doesn't make big difference. My preference (and Phil's as in the issue description) is to provide usage note without stating assertions about external properties

Scribe problem: the name 'suggestion' does not match any of the 64 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Caroline Burle Chris Beer Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila Dave Reynolds David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Deirdre Lee Denise Warzel Elena Montiel Ponsoda Eric VonColln Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Gofran Shukair Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raj Singh Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yaso Córdova Yigal Arens Yosuke Funahashi Zachary Whitley Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown suggestion: close issue with no actions reason: based on the related discussion it seems that this doesn't make big difference. My preference (and Phil's as in the issue description) is to provide usage note without stating assertions about external properties ←

14:40:35 <sandro> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-4 saying "No", but we'll include usage notes

PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-4 saying "No", but we'll include usage notes ←

14:40:42 <cygri> +1

Richard Cyganiak: +1 ←

14:40:45 <mhausenblas> +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1 ←

14:40:47 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←

14:40:47 <sandro> +0

Sandro Hawke: +0 ←

14:40:48 <DaveReynolds> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1 ←

14:40:49 <fadmaa> +1

Fadi Maali: +1 ←

14:41:08 <sandro> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-4 saying "No", but we'll include usage notes

RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-4 saying "No", but we'll include usage notes ←

14:41:14 <cygri> ISSUE-5?

Richard Cyganiak: ISSUE-5? ←

14:41:14 <trackbot> ISSUE-5 -- Implications of the domain of dcterms:accrualPeriodicity -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-5 -- Implications of the domain of dcterms:accrualPeriodicity -- raised ←

14:41:14 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/5

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/5 ←

14:41:48 <DeirdreLee> suggestion: close with no actions   reason: the implication of inferring dcat:Dataset as dcterms:Collection is fine

Unknown suggestion: close with no actions reason: the implication of inferring dcat:Dataset as dcterms:Collection is fine ←

14:42:00 <sandro> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-5 with no action.

PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-5 with no action. ←

14:42:02 <DeirdreLee> (suggestions come from Fadi's mail to mailing-list)

(suggestions come from Fadi's mail to mailing-list) ←

14:42:17 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←

14:42:17 <martinAlvarez> +1

Martín Álvarez: +1 ←

14:42:18 <fadmaa> +1

Fadi Maali: +1 ←

14:42:24 <sandro> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-5 with no action.

RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-5 with no action. ←

14:42:40 <cygri> ISSUE-6?

Richard Cyganiak: ISSUE-6? ←

14:42:40 <trackbot> ISSUE-6 -- How should dcat publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-6 -- How should dcat publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised ←

14:42:40 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6 ←

14:42:46 <DeirdreLee> suggestion: close with no action   reason: out of scope. We can provide some pointers in the usage note for values that have some general consensus but without making this part of the vocabulary specification

Unknown suggestion: close with no action reason: out of scope. We can provide some pointers in the usage note for values that have some general consensus but without making this part of the vocabulary specification ←

14:43:24 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←

14:43:26 <DeirdreLee> fadmaa: does anyone have concrete suggestions?

Fadi Maali: does anyone have concrete suggestions? ←

14:44:34 <DeirdreLee> cygri: we don't need to make any formal recommendations, but we should make some comment outlining possibilities

Richard Cyganiak: we don't need to make any formal recommendations, but we should make some comment outlining possibilities ←

14:44:36 <bhyland> cygri: There should be mention of the possibilities for handling non-literal ranges

Richard Cyganiak: There should be mention of the possibilities for handling non-literal ranges [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

14:44:44 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:44:46 <sandro> cygri: We don't need a formal MUST, but we should say something, outlining the possibilities.   Or maybe in the Best Practices document.    Some paragraphs, with some examples.

Richard Cyganiak: We don't need a formal MUST, but we should say something, outlining the possibilities. Or maybe in the Best Practices document. Some paragraphs, with some examples. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←

14:44:49 <DeirdreLee> ... could this be included in the best-practice document?

... could this be included in the best-practice document? ←

14:44:52 <DeirdreLee> ack cygri

ack cygri ←

14:44:52 <PhilA2> +1 to talking about this in the BP document. It's an issue but I agree it's not specific to DCAT

Phil Archer: +1 to talking about this in the BP document. It's an issue but I agree it's not specific to DCAT ←

14:45:08 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←

14:45:10 <sandro> bhyland: Right, it's not unique to DCAT.

Bernadette Hyland: Right, it's not unique to DCAT. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←

14:45:20 <DeirdreLee> cygri: these patterns are applicable to all vocabularies, not just DCAT

Richard Cyganiak: these patterns are applicable to all vocabularies, not just DCAT ←

14:45:35 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←

14:45:38 <sandro> PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-6, deferring to Best Practices for this kind of advice

PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-6, deferring to Best Practices for this kind of advice ←

14:45:50 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←

14:47:00 <cygri> PROPOSAL: move ISSUE-6 from DCAT to BP, and add ACTION to a DCAT editor on putting in a link

PROPOSED: move ISSUE-6 from DCAT to BP, and add ACTION to a DCAT editor on putting in a link ←

14:47:26 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←

14:47:39 <fadmaa> +1

Fadi Maali: +1 ←

14:47:41 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1 ←

14:48:37 <DeirdreLee> PhilA2: there is a dependency on the BP doc

Phil Archer: there is a dependency on the BP doc ←

14:48:37 <cygri> +1

Richard Cyganiak: +1 ←

14:48:37 <sandro> RESOLVED: move ISSUE-6 from DCAT to BP, and add ACTION to a DCAT editor on putting in a link

RESOLVED: move ISSUE-6 from DCAT to BP, and add ACTION to a DCAT editor on putting in a link ←

14:48:40 <PhilA2> ACTION fadmaa to include text in DCAT to point to the BP doc, with link to the issue in the interim

Phil Archer: ACTION fadmaa to include text in DCAT to point to the BP doc, with link to the issue in the interim ←

14:48:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-77 - Include text in DCAT to point to the BP doc, with link to the issue in the interim [on Fadi Maali - due 2012-10-04].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-77 - Include text in DCAT to point to the BP doc, with link to the issue in the interim [on Fadi Maali - due 2012-10-04]. ←

14:48:46 <cygri> ISSUE-7?

Richard Cyganiak: ISSUE-7? ←

14:48:46 <trackbot> ISSUE-7 -- Drop dcat:accessUrl, use the URI of the dcat:Download resource instead -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-7 -- Drop dcat:accessUrl, use the URI of the dcat:Download resource instead -- raised ←

14:48:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/7

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/7 ←

14:49:18 <cygri> PROPOSAL: drop ISSUE-7 with no action

PROPOSED: drop ISSUE-7 with no action ←

14:49:19 <sandro> PROPOSAL: Close ISSUE-7, no action, keeping accessUrl as it's still needed.

PROPOSED: Close ISSUE-7, no action, keeping accessUrl as it's still needed. ←

14:49:19 <DeirdreLee> suggestion: close with no actions   reason: dcat:accessURL is needed especially when a dataset has multiple distributions (see the related emails on the issue page for details)

Unknown suggestion: close with no actions reason: dcat:accessURL is needed especially when a dataset has multiple distributions (see the related emails on the issue page for details) ←

14:49:38 <cygri> +1

Richard Cyganiak: +1 ←

14:49:43 <sandro> +1

Sandro Hawke: +1 ←

14:49:44 <DaveReynolds> +1

Dave Reynolds: +1 ←

14:49:45 <fadmaa> +1

Fadi Maali: +1 ←

14:50:06 <mhausenblas> +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1 ←

14:50:09 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←

14:50:13 <sandro> RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-7, no action, keeping accessUrl as it's still needed.

RESOLVED: Close ISSUE-7, no action, keeping accessUrl as it's still needed. ←

14:50:16 <cygri> ISSUE-8?

Richard Cyganiak: ISSUE-8? ←

14:50:16 <trackbot> ISSUE-8 -- add a property to distinguish direct and indirect access of dcat:Distribution -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-8 -- add a property to distinguish direct and indirect access of dcat:Distribution -- raised ←

14:50:16 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/8

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/8 ←

14:50:23 <sandro> PhilA2: I hate accessUrl, but I see it's necessary.

Phil Archer: I hate accessUrl, but I see it's necessary. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←

14:50:26 <DeirdreLee> suggestion: no suggestion   reason: need some further discussions. I summarized three possible options here at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Mar/0080.html

Unknown suggestion: no suggestion reason: need some further discussions. I summarized three possible options here at: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2012Mar/0080.html ←

14:50:45 <cygri> ISSUE-9?

Richard Cyganiak: ISSUE-9? ←

14:50:45 <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- dcat:Distribution and its subclasses are unnecessary -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-9 -- dcat:Distribution and its subclasses are unnecessary -- raised ←

14:50:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/9

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/9 ←

14:50:47 <DeirdreLee> fadmaa: there is no clear consensus on this issue

Fadi Maali: there is no clear consensus on this issue ←

14:51:04 <cygri> +1

Richard Cyganiak: +1 ←

14:51:16 <DeirdreLee> q+

q+ ←

14:51:43 <PhilA2> ack DeirdreLee

Phil Archer: ack DeirdreLee ←

14:51:48 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←

14:51:54 <sandro> yes, all issues need to be closed before going to LC

Sandro Hawke: yes, all issues need to be closed before going to LC ←

14:51:55 <cygri> q-

Richard Cyganiak: q- ←

14:51:57 <DeirdreLee> bhyland: leave issue 8 and 9 open

Bernadette Hyland: leave ISSUE-8 and 9 open ←

14:52:14 <DeirdreLee> DeirdreLee: can we have a plan to resolve these issues

Deirdre Lee: can we have a plan to resolve these issues ←

14:52:31 <sandro> issue-10?

Sandro Hawke: ISSUE-10? ←

14:52:31 <trackbot> ISSUE-10 -- Refine dcat:granularity to dcat:spatialGranularity and dcat:temporalGranularity -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-10 -- Refine dcat:granularity to dcat:spatialGranularity and dcat:temporalGranularity -- raised ←

14:52:31 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/10

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/10 ←

14:52:41 <DeirdreLee> bhyland: follow-up on this on email, if it can't be resolved, it will be discussed in future telco

Bernadette Hyland: follow-up on this on email, if it can't be resolved, it will be discussed in future telco ←

14:52:49 <DeirdreLee> suggestion: close with no actions   reason: dcat:granularity is not much used in practice now (but still used by data.gov for example and therefore I don't support dropping it). It is hard to suggest refinement to it. suggest keeping it as a general property in case people want to use it. --> close no action

Unknown suggestion: close with no actions reason: dcat:granularity is not much used in practice now (but still used by data.gov for example and therefore I don't support dropping it). It is hard to suggest refinement to it. suggest keeping it as a general property in case people want to use it. --> close no action ←

14:53:32 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←

14:53:43 <bhyland> I hear 'move it to Open status'

Bernadette Hyland: I hear 'move it to Open status' ←

14:53:50 <gatemezi> fadmaa, so we leave it just because is used by data.gov?

Ghislain Atemezing: fadmaa, so we leave it just because is used by data.gov? ←

14:54:03 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:54:08 <DeirdreLee> fadmaa: it is not clear how it will be used, but there is potential for it, so therefore just to leave it and not further refining it to subproperties

Fadi Maali: it is not clear how it will be used, but there is potential for it, so therefore just to leave it and not further refining it to subproperties ←

14:54:19 <sandro> q+ to ask if you can do spatial and temporal granularity with dcat:granularity

Sandro Hawke: q+ to ask if you can do spatial and temporal granularity with dcat:granularity ←

14:54:54 <sandro> +1 cygri don't include properties that wont be understood/consistently used.

Sandro Hawke: +1 cygri don't include properties that wont be understood/consistently used. ←

14:54:56 <bhyland> Cygri: Prudent thing to do is drop it *if* we don't think it will be used consistently...

Richard Cyganiak: Prudent thing to do is drop it *if* we don't think it will be used consistently... [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

14:55:16 <DeirdreLee> cygri: if it is unclear how it is used, the prudent thing is to drop it

Richard Cyganiak: if it is unclear how it is used, the prudent thing is to drop it ←

14:55:22 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←

14:55:29 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:55:32 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←

14:55:33 <bhyland> ack cygri

Bernadette Hyland: ack cygri ←

14:55:33 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q- ←

14:55:47 <PhilA2> q+

Phil Archer: q+ ←

14:56:00 <bhyland> Deirdre: Mentioned it is used on data.gov so we might break something which is undesireable.

Deirdre Lee: Mentioned it is used on data.gov so we might break something which is undesireable. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

14:56:04 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:56:15 <gatemezi> +1 to have a sample of the use-case of data.gov

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to have a sample of the use-case of data.gov ←

14:56:53 <bhyland> I suggest we move this to Open status and check back next week with George as our data.gov POC

Bernadette Hyland: I suggest we move this to Open status and check back next week with George as our data.gov POC ←

14:56:59 <tinagheen> Is Chris Musialek still a member of this WG? We could ask him for more details as he works on data.gov.

Tina Gheen: Is Chris Musialek still a member of this WG? We could ask him for more details as he works on data.gov. ←

14:57:39 <DeirdreLee> PhilA: if we are discussing granularity or coverage, because spatial and temporal are DC terms

Phil Archer: if we are discussing granularity or coverage, because spatial and temporal are DC terms ←

14:57:43 <cygri> i'm ok with changing ISSUE-10 to open

Richard Cyganiak: i'm ok with changing ISSUE-10 to open ←

14:58:21 <bhyland> Please make sure you visit this page, http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Deliverables

Bernadette Hyland: Please make sure you visit this page, http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Deliverables ←

14:58:33 <DeirdreLee> bhyland: we didn't get to discuss the deliverables summary that Richard sent around

Bernadette Hyland: we didn't get to discuss the deliverables summary that Richard sent around ←

14:59:00 <DeirdreLee> q+

q+ ←

14:59:17 <mhausenblas> q+ to quickly state something re People vocab

Michael Hausenblas: q+ to quickly state something re People vocab ←

14:59:48 <sandro> q+ to suggest fadi email PROPOSAL's on handling these.

Sandro Hawke: q+ to suggest fadi email PROPOSAL's on handling these. ←

15:00:05 <DeirdreLee> ... we should review ISA vocab docs in our own time and use telcos to discuss

... we should review ISA vocab docs in our own time and use telcos to discuss ←

15:00:17 <sandro> fadmaa, can you email proposed resolutions, like I've been putting on IRC?

Sandro Hawke: fadmaa, can you email proposed resolutions, like I've been putting on IRC? ←

15:00:28 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q- ←

15:00:31 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

15:00:35 <PhilA2> q-

Phil Archer: q- ←

15:00:55 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q? ←

15:01:02 <mhausenblas> ack DeirdreLee

Michael Hausenblas: ack DeirdreLee ←

15:01:20 <bhyland> ta

Bernadette Hyland: ta ←

15:01:29 <mhausenblas> Michael: for the record, Gofran is already a member

Michael Hausenblas: for the record, Gofran is already a member [ Scribe Assist by Michael Hausenblas ] ←

15:01:31 <PhilA2> DeirdreLee: We've discussed ADMS here at DERI. Gofran Shukair has been involved with it from the beginning so she's going to join the editoral team for ADMS

Deirdre Lee: We've discussed ADMS here at DERI. Gofran Shukair has been involved with it from the beginning so she's going to join the editoral team for ADMS [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←

15:01:32 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q? ←

15:01:41 <bhyland> +1 to adding Gogran to the ISA Programme vocab review group

Bernadette Hyland: +1 to adding Gofran to the ISA Programme vocab review group ←

15:02:04 <gatemezi> s/Gogran/Gofran

15:02:05 <bhyland> s/Gogran/Gofran

15:02:21 <bhyland> Topic: Deliverables Schedule

4. Deliverables Schedule

15:02:40 <bhyland> Please review http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Deliverables for next week

Bernadette Hyland: Please review http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Deliverables for next week ←

15:03:00 <DeirdreLee> .mhausenblas: People vocabulary. what should the namepace be?

.mhausenblas: People vocabulary. what should the namepace be? ←

15:03:03 <bhyland> Topic: ISA Programme vocabs

5. ISA Programme vocabs

15:03:06 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

15:03:14 <bhyland> ack michael

Bernadette Hyland: ack michael ←

15:03:15 <DeirdreLee> ... this decision should be made by the group

... this decision should be made by the group ←

15:03:21 <bhyland> ack mhausenblas

Bernadette Hyland: ack mhausenblas ←

15:03:21 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to quickly state something re People vocab

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas, you wanted to quickly state something re People vocab ←

15:03:34 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

15:04:04 <sandro> The only promise to the EC was that this would considered.

Sandro Hawke: The only promise to the EC was that this would considered. ←

15:04:04 <PhilA2> No one disagrees with you Michael, certainly not me :-)

Phil Archer: No one disagrees with you Michael, certainly not me :-) ←

15:04:04 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q? ←

15:04:20 <PhilA2> And it's why these things have not yet been published...

Phil Archer: And it's why these things have not yet been published... ←

15:04:27 <sandro> bhyland: We just agreed to review it.

Bernadette Hyland: We just agreed to review it. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←

15:05:00 <mhausenblas> [[ Finally, W3C and the WG chairs made a commitment to the European Commission that we would, in some way, publish the ISA Person Core Vocabulary in w3.org space. We can't just ignore that commitment. ]]

Michael Hausenblas: [[ Finally, W3C and the WG chairs made a commitment to the European Commission that we would, in some way, publish the ISA Person Core Vocabulary in w3.org space. We can't just ignore that commitment. ]] ←

15:05:25 <DeirdreLee> bhyland: there's no rubber-stamping on this, so it does needs everyones input to review it and agree to it, before we include it

Bernadette Hyland: there's no rubber-stamping on this, so it does needs everyones input to review it and agree to it, before we include it ←

15:05:28 <Zakim> + +61.4.286.0.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +61.4.286.0.aaff ←

15:05:30 <bhyland> Right, the commitment is to *review* it and if OK, we'll go through the normal & usual REC track process

Bernadette Hyland: Right, the commitment is to *review* it and if OK, we'll go through the normal & usual REC track process ←

15:06:02 <mhausenblas> Michael: I agree with the interpretation that the chairs have committed to review it, yes.

Michael Hausenblas: I agree with the interpretation that the chairs have committed to review it, yes. [ Scribe Assist by Michael Hausenblas ] ←

15:06:24 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

15:06:38 <PhilA2> zakim, aaff is Chris Beer

Phil Archer: zakim, aaff is Chris Beer ←

15:06:38 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaff is Chris Beer', PhilA2

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'aaff is Chris Beer', PhilA2 ←

15:06:44 <Zakim> -Mike_Pendleton

Zakim IRC Bot: -Mike_Pendleton ←

15:06:55 <cygri> thanks all!

Richard Cyganiak: thanks all! ←

15:07:00 <PhilA2> zakim, aaff is Chris_Beer

Phil Archer: zakim, aaff is Chris_Beer ←

15:07:00 <Zakim> +Chris_Beer; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Chris_Beer; got it ←

15:07:02 <gatemezi> thanks!

Ghislain Atemezing: thanks! ←

15:07:03 <Zakim> -Yigal

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yigal ←

15:07:05 <Zakim> -mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas ←

15:07:06 <Zakim> -PhilA2

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA2 ←

15:07:08 <Zakim> -tinagheen

Zakim IRC Bot: -tinagheen ←

15:07:10 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←

15:07:12 <DaveReynolds> Thanks all.

Dave Reynolds: Thanks all. ←

15:07:39 <Zakim> -gatemezi

Zakim IRC Bot: -gatemezi ←

15:07:42 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds

Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds ←

15:07:47 <Zakim> -PhilA2.a

Scribe problem: the name 'PhilA2.a' does not match any of the 64 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Caroline Burle Chris Beer Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila Dave Reynolds David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Deirdre Lee Denise Warzel Elena Montiel Ponsoda Eric VonColln Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Gofran Shukair Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raj Singh Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yaso Córdova Yigal Arens Yosuke Funahashi Zachary Whitley Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA2.a ←

15:07:49 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen

Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←

15:08:35 <DeirdreLee> Action Dave to include all updates and distribute next version of ORG vocabulary by next Thursday's meeting (4th Oct)

Action Dave to include all updates and distribute next version of ORG vocabulary by next Thursday's meeting (4th Oct) ←

15:08:35 <trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Include all updates and distribute next version of ORG vocabulary by next Thursday's meeting (4th Oct) [on Dave Reynolds - due 2012-10-04].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-78 - Include all updates and distribute next version of ORG vocabulary by next Thursday's meeting (4th Oct) [on Dave Reynolds - due 2012-10-04]. ←

15:09:36 <DeirdreLee> ACTION mhausenblas and bartvanLeeuwen to review the final version of the ORG vocabulary for content and typo errors before the document is released as LC

ACTION mhausenblas and bartvanLeeuwen to review the final version of the ORG vocabulary for content and typo errors before the document is released as LC ←

15:09:36 <trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - And bartvanLeeuwen to review the final version of the ORG vocabulary for content and typo errors before the document is released as LC [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2012-10-04].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-79 - And bartvanLeeuwen to review the final version of the ORG vocabulary for content and typo errors before the document is released as LC [on Michael Hausenblas - due 2012-10-04]. ←

15:10:12 <bhyland> Thanks Deirdre for keeping up with today's minutes

Bernadette Hyland: Thanks Deirdre for keeping up with today's minutes ←

15:11:09 <bhyland> Do you need any help publishing minutes Deirdre?

Bernadette Hyland: Do you need any help publishing minutes Deirdre? ←

15:11:24 <bhyland> OK, I'll do it.

Bernadette Hyland: OK, I'll do it. ←

15:11:33 <bhyland> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible

Bernadette Hyland: RRSAgent, set logs world-visible ←

15:11:44 <bhyland> RRSAgent, generate minutes

Bernadette Hyland: RRSAgent, generate minutes ←

15:11:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/27-gld-minutes.html bhyland

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/09/27-gld-minutes.html bhyland ←

15:12:04 <DeirdreLee> thanks Bernadette

thanks Bernadette ←

15:12:08 <bhyland> np

Bernadette Hyland: np ←

15:13:41 <Zakim> -DeirdreLee

Zakim IRC Bot: -DeirdreLee ←

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