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Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 21 June 2012

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Bernadette Hyland, George Thomas, Hadley Beeman, Michael Hausenblas, Sandro Hawke, Yigal Arens
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14:00:57 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:00:57 <trackbot> Date: 21 June 2012
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14:02:06 <HadleyBeeman> Meeting agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120621

Hadley Beeman: Meeting agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120621

14:02:56 <bhyland> apologies, coming!

Bernadette Hyland: apologies, coming!

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14:11:17 <bhyland> Topic: Quick recap of what the handful of people who joined are doing in relation to GLD

1. Quick recap of what the handful of people who joined are doing in relation to GLD

14:12:21 <bhyland> Hadley: LinkedDev in UK received approval for funding for another year.

Hadley Beeman: LinkedDev in UK received approval for funding for another year. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:13:05 <bhyland> Changes to rules on hires.  Still remain committed to crowd sourcing and linking of UK Gov't Data.

Bernadette Hyland: Changes to rules on hires. Still remain committed to crowd sourcing and linking of UK Gov't Data.

14:13:51 <bhyland> Remains committed to effort lead by TimBL and Nigel, (re)funded for 10M GBP for next 5 years.

Bernadette Hyland: Remains committed to effort lead by TimBL and Nigel, (re)funded for 10M GBP for next 5 years.

14:13:59 <bhyland> Will be participating in standards development.

Bernadette Hyland: Will be participating in standards development.

14:14:02 <George> nice to hear you Hadley - and congrats on your continues LinkedGov and OpenData Institute Success !!

George Thomas: nice to hear you Hadley - and congrats on your continues LinkedGov and OpenData Institute Success !!

14:14:34 <George> http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-05/21/open-data-institute-plans

George Thomas: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-05/21/open-data-institute-plans

14:16:53 <bhyland> Open Data Institute is working out details of how to operate.  Four pillars: 1) impact of publishing LOD 2) standards formation, vocab creation; 3) support of Startups and SMEs who could work with Open Data (bus + tech guidance); 4) Training through Univ of Southampton

Bernadette Hyland: Open Data Institute is working out details of how to operate. Four pillars: 1) impact of publishing LOD 2) standards formation, vocab creation; 3) support of Startups and SMEs who could work with Open Data (bus + tech guidance); 4) Training through Univ of Southampton

14:19:30 <bhyland> Topic: Michael Hausenblas' update ...

2. Michael Hausenblas' update ...

14:20:11 <bhyland> (Taking holiday in August).  Discussing alignment with People Vocab & ISA Programme vocabularies, specifically ADMS.

Bernadette Hyland: (Taking holiday in August). Discussing alignment with People Vocab & ISA Programme vocabularies, specifically ADMS.

14:21:01 <bhyland> Goal is to create an updated version of People Vocab contemplating the ADMS integration.  Then think about going to last call.

Bernadette Hyland: Goal is to create an updated version of People Vocab contemplating the ADMS integration. Then think about going to last call.

14:22:12 <bhyland> Michael asked that the GLD WG consider whether the use cases are sufficient in the FPWD.  Think in context of real world data sets and raise issues now please.  This should be a priority for GLD WG.

Bernadette Hyland: Michael asked that the GLD WG consider whether the use cases are sufficient in the FPWD. Think in context of real world data sets and raise issues now please. This should be a priority for GLD WG.

14:23:36 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-people/#interoperability-considerations

Michael Hausenblas: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-people/#interoperability-considerations

14:23:40 <bhyland> Sandro: consider how schema.org plays into what Michael discussed.

Sandro Hawke: consider how schema.org plays into what Michael discussed. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:24:32 <bhyland> Michael: Suggested it is simple.  Here are the mappings to other valuable vocabularies, including schema.org.  Explains canonical mapping to key vocabs.

Michael Hausenblas: Suggested it is simple. Here are the mappings to other valuable vocabularies, including schema.org. Explains canonical mapping to key vocabs. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:25:00 <bhyland> Sandro: How does this work? It is through equivalent or subclassing?

Sandro Hawke: How does this work? It is through equivalent or subclassing? [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:25:21 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets

Michael Hausenblas: http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebSchemas/Datasets

14:27:07 <bhyland> … Suggests that "Mappings" is "approximately equivalent".  More consideration needs to be given.  More formally using OWL or less formally with mappings.  All good questions that will be given consideration.

Bernadette Hyland: … Suggests that "Mappings" is "approximately equivalent". More consideration needs to be given. More formally using OWL or less formally with mappings. All good questions that will be given consideration.

14:27:31 <bhyland> Sandro: In best practices we should guide people on considerations ...

Sandro Hawke: In best practices we should guide people on considerations ... [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:30:39 <bhyland> Topic: Best Practices

3. Best Practices

14:31:33 <bhyland> Sandro: Goal is to document how to deal with equivalent vs same URIs for the same thing

Sandro Hawke: Goal is to document how to deal with equivalent vs same URIs for the same thing [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:33:01 <sandro> sandro: When should you use someone else's URI for something vs minting your own <--- comes up with people vocab, and we should give general advice in BP.

Sandro Hawke: When should you use someone else's URI for something vs minting your own <--- comes up with people vocab, and we should give general advice in BP. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

14:33:56 <bhyland> Topic: GLD Vocabs

4. GLD Vocabs

14:34:27 <bhyland> George: Looking to make pretty serious progress on DCAT with feedback from Faadi & Rufus (OKF).

George Thomas: Looking to make pretty serious progress on DCAT with feedback from Faadi & Rufus (OKF). [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:34:51 <bhyland> In July, expect to resolve issues Ed Summers (LoC) raised previously.

Bernadette Hyland: In July, expect to resolve issues Ed Summers (LoC) raised previously.

14:35:11 <bhyland> PhilA will give ISA Programme updates

Bernadette Hyland: PhilA will give ISA Programme updates

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14:37:29 <HadleyBeeman> Congratulations, George!  Sounds like a big success.

Hadley Beeman: Congratulations, George! Sounds like a big success.

14:37:35 <mhausenblas> Very cool - huge kudos to George and thanks a lot for this!!

Michael Hausenblas: Very cool - huge kudos to George and thanks a lot for this!!

14:39:36 <bhyland> Discussed Health Datapalooza and *huge* gains in mindshare that George has largely helped achieve in the last couple years.  To have the US Federal CTO be supportive of & use the terms "machine readable open government content" … APIs to access the data ..

Bernadette Hyland: Discussed Health Datapalooza and *huge* gains in mindshare that George has largely helped achieve in the last couple years. To have the US Federal CTO be supportive of & use the terms "machine readable open government content" … APIs to access the data ..

14:41:12 <bhyland> Topic: Update from Zach.  Formally with Johns Hopkins Adv Physics Labs (APL). He has joined Orbis who does more DoD/Intel work.

5. Update from Zach. Formally with Johns Hopkins Adv Physics Labs (APL). He has joined Orbis who does more DoD/Intel work.

14:42:40 <bhyland> Works on disconnected network from Web.  Operating in a parallel universe.  Ideas on how to work with disconnected networks?

Bernadette Hyland: Works on disconnected network from Web. Operating in a parallel universe. Ideas on how to work with disconnected networks?

14:43:10 <bhyland> … bridging gap between cloud computing and semantic web technology

Bernadette Hyland: … bridging gap between cloud computing and semantic web technology

14:44:42 <bhyland> @Zach - check out http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/charter.html

Bernadette Hyland: @Zach - check out http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/charter.html

14:45:18 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp

Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp

14:45:47 <bhyland> Chairs of the LD Platform WG, see Arnaud Le Hors, IBM

Bernadette Hyland: Chairs of the LD Platform WG, see Arnaud Le Hors, IBM

14:45:47 <bhyland> Erik Wilde, EMC

Bernadette Hyland: Erik Wilde, EMC

14:46:45 <bhyland> Topic: W3C Offices, see http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Offices/role.html

6. W3C Offices, see http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Offices/role.html

14:47:02 <bhyland> Sandro described: A W3C Office is a regional arm that helps recruit Members and promote W3C technology.

Bernadette Hyland: Sandro described: A W3C Office is a regional arm that helps recruit Members and promote W3C technology.

14:47:44 <HadleyBeeman> that sounds exciting

Hadley Beeman: that sounds exciting

14:47:54 <George> good luck with the grant Sandro!

George Thomas: good luck with the grant Sandro!

14:49:51 <HadleyBeeman> Belated congrats, bhyland!  That's great.

Hadley Beeman: Belated congrats, bhyland! That's great.

14:51:01 <mhausenblas> Michael: I'll have to leave now unfortunately, heading to next meeting, sorry

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14:51:19 <HadleyBeeman> I'm very in favour of the schema.org conversations

Hadley Beeman: I'm very in favour of the schema.org conversations

14:51:39 <bhyland> Topic: Planning upcoming meetings in July

7. Planning upcoming meetings in July

14:52:25 <bhyland> Hadley: Hearing a lot of interest around schema.org.  Would like to have more discussion about how GLD WG can be relevant and part of the process, and consider what we recommend in Best Practices deliverable.

Hadley Beeman: Hearing a lot of interest around schema.org. Would like to have more discussion about how GLD WG can be relevant and part of the process, and consider what we recommend in Best Practices deliverable. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:53:52 <bhyland> … Feels she needs to know more & how it fits in the landscape.

Bernadette Hyland: … Feels she needs to know more & how it fits in the landscape.

14:54:00 <bhyland> Panel at SemTech: "big guns" panel with Ivan Herman of W3C (Moderator), Dan Brickley, of Schema.org at Google;  R.V. Guha of Google;  Steve Macbeth of Microsoft; Peter Mika of Yahoo!; Jeffrey W. Preston of Disney Interactive Media Group; Evan Sandhaus of The New York Times Company; and Alexander Shubin of Yandex.

Bernadette Hyland: Panel at SemTech: "big guns" panel with Ivan Herman of W3C (Moderator), Dan Brickley, of Schema.org at Google; R.V. Guha of Google; Steve Macbeth of Microsoft; Peter Mika of Yahoo!; Jeffrey W. Preston of Disney Interactive Media Group; Evan Sandhaus of The New York Times Company; and Alexander Shubin of Yandex.

14:54:53 <bhyland> Topic: Yigal's update

8. Yigal's update

14:56:10 <bhyland> Works at USC research group where Yigal is Deputy Director of AI research team.  Working on linked data activities for data integration, specifically for biology & phenotype work.

Bernadette Hyland: Works at USC research group where Yigal is Deputy Director of AI research team. Working on linked data activities for data integration, specifically for biology & phenotype work.

14:56:34 <bhyland> Other people at ISI working with Yigal are involved in the Provenance WG.

Bernadette Hyland: Other people at ISI working with Yigal are involved in the Provenance WG.

14:57:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:57:18 <bhyland> Topic: Progress on Open Data Institute

9. Progress on Open Data Institute

14:58:02 <bhyland> Now deciding 'who needs what'… would welcome input from the GLD WG on what is needed to make this real.  Help provide direction to the institute.

Bernadette Hyland: Now deciding 'who needs what'… would welcome input from the GLD WG on what is needed to make this real. Help provide direction to the institute.

15:00:12 <bhyland> meeting adjourned.

Bernadette Hyland: meeting adjourned.

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15:00:29 <bhyland> Thanks all for your acceptance of a more fluid meeting agenda today.

Bernadette Hyland: Thanks all for your acceptance of a more fluid meeting agenda today.

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15:00:32 <bhyland> Enjoyed it!

Bernadette Hyland: Enjoyed it!

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15:00:40 <bhyland> I'll produce the minutes.

Bernadette Hyland: I'll produce the minutes.

15:00:52 <HadleyBeeman> Me too! Useful to hear what the group is up to.

Hadley Beeman: Me too! Useful to hear what the group is up to.

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