Meeting Record

Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 31 May 2012

Present: Bernadette Hyland, Sandro Hawke, Unknown H., Unknown E, George Thomas, Unknown P., Boris Villazón-Terrazas, Unknown (Wolters Kluwer), Dave Reynolds, Unknown C, Deirdre Lee, Martín Álvarez, Ghislain Atemezing, Unknown MacTed, Unknown G.
Chair: Bernadette Hyland
Scribe: Unknown Mike_Pendleton
IRC Log: Original
Resolutions: None.
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13:54:29 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-gld-irc

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13:54:33 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD

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13:54:33 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started

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13:54:34 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

13:54:34 <trackbot> Date: 31 May 2012

13:55:58 <olyerickson> Joining shortly...

John Erickson: Joining shortly... ←

13:57:58 <bhyland> Today's agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120531

Bernadette Hyland: Today's agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120531 ←

13:59:18 <Zakim> + +1.847.668.aaaa

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13:59:26 <Zakim> +davidwood

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13:59:37 <bhyland> zakim, davidwood is me

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, davidwood is me ←

13:59:37 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it

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13:59:48 <Zakim> +??P20

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13:59:56 <boris> zakim, ??P20 is me

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, ??P20 is me ←

13:59:56 <Zakim> +boris; got it

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14:00:01 <Zakim> +??P24

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14:00:03 <Zakim> +mhausenblas

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14:00:21 <bhyland> Guest speaker today is John Barker, see bio http://solutions.wolterskluwer.com/blog/author/john/

Bernadette Hyland: Guest speaker today is John Barker, see bio http://solutions.wolterskluwer.com/blog/author/john/ ←

14:00:38 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?

John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone? ←

14:00:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see mikependleton, +1.847.668.aaaa, bhyland, boris, ??P24, mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see mikependleton, +1.847.668.aaaa, bhyland, boris, ??P24, mhausenblas ←

14:00:46 <cygri> zakim, i'm with mhausenblas

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, i'm with mhausenblas ←

14:00:46 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

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14:00:54 <olyerickson> zakim, I am ??p24.

John Erickson: zakim, I am ??p24. ←

14:00:55 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it

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14:01:02 <olyerickson> mute me.

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14:01:19 <Zakim> +George_Thomas

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14:01:35 <Zakim> +gatemezi

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14:01:35 <olyerickson> mute me

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14:02:03 <boris> http://www.kit.edu/index.php

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: http://www.kit.edu/index.php ←

14:02:04 <Zakim> + +3539149aabb

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14:02:23 <Zakim> +??P35

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14:02:39 <olyerickson> @bhyland: Wie gehts?

John Erickson: @bhyland: Wie gehts? ←

14:02:56 <Zakim> +BrendanIAB

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14:03:02 <gatemezi> Zakim, who is here?

Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, who is here? ←

14:03:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see mikependleton, +1.847.668.aaaa, bhyland, boris, olyerickson, mhausenblas, George_Thomas, gatemezi, +3539149aabb, DaveReynolds, BrendanIAB

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see mikependleton, +1.847.668.aaaa, bhyland, boris, olyerickson, mhausenblas, George_Thomas, gatemezi, +3539149aabb, DaveReynolds, BrendanIAB ←

14:03:06 <Zakim> mhausenblas has cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has cygri ←

14:03:06 <Zakim> On IRC I see DeirdreLee, gatemezi, cygri, DaveReynolds, boris, bhyland, George, olyerickson, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, Mike_Pendleton, MacTed, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see DeirdreLee, gatemezi, cygri, DaveReynolds, boris, bhyland, George, olyerickson, Zakim, RRSAgent, mhausenblas, Mike_Pendleton, MacTed, trackbot, sandro ←

14:03:31 <bhyland> zakim, aaaa is JohnBarker

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aaaa is JohnBarker ←

14:03:31 <Zakim> +JohnBarker; got it

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14:03:52 <bhyland> zakim, aabb is DeirdreLee

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aabb is DeirdreLee ←

14:03:52 <Zakim> +DeirdreLee; got it

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14:04:38 <olyerickson> 12 people and a robot named Zakim...

John Erickson: 12 people and a robot named Zakim... ←

14:04:44 <Zakim> +[LC]

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14:04:55 <tinagheen> Zakim, [LC] is me

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14:04:55 <Zakim> +tinagheen; got it

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14:04:59 <Mike_Pendleton> present: Bernadette, Sandro, Michael H., John E, George, Mike P., Boris, John Barker (Wolters Kluwer), Dave, Richard C, Deirdre, Martin, gatemezi, MacTed, Tina G.

Scribe problem: the name 'Michael H.' does not match any of the 58 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila Dave Reynolds David Hau David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Deirdre Lee Elena Montiel Ponsoda Eric VonColln Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raj Singh Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yigal Arens Yosuke Funahashi Zachary Whitley

Scribe problem: the name 'John E' does not match any of the 58 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila Dave Reynolds David Hau David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Deirdre Lee Elena Montiel Ponsoda Eric VonColln Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raj Singh Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yigal Arens Yosuke Funahashi Zachary Whitley

Scribe problem: the name 'Mike P.' does not match any of the 58 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila Dave Reynolds David Hau David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Deirdre Lee Elena Montiel Ponsoda Eric VonColln Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raj Singh Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yigal Arens Yosuke Funahashi Zachary Whitley

Scribe problem: the name 'John Barker (Wolters Kluwer)' does not match any of the 58 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila Dave Reynolds David Hau David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Deirdre Lee Elena Montiel Ponsoda Eric VonColln Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raj Singh Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yigal Arens Yosuke Funahashi Zachary Whitley

Scribe problem: the name 'Richard C' does not match any of the 58 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila Dave Reynolds David Hau David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Deirdre Lee Elena Montiel Ponsoda Eric VonColln Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raj Singh Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yigal Arens Yosuke Funahashi Zachary Whitley

Scribe problem: the name 'MacTed' does not match any of the 58 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila Dave Reynolds David Hau David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Deirdre Lee Elena Montiel Ponsoda Eric VonColln Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raj Singh Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yigal Arens Yosuke Funahashi Zachary Whitley

Scribe problem: the name 'Tina G.' does not match any of the 58 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila Dave Reynolds David Hau David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Deirdre Lee Elena Montiel Ponsoda Eric VonColln Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raj Singh Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yigal Arens Yosuke Funahashi Zachary Whitley

14:05:00 <sandro> [ sorry -- last-minute regrets from me. ]

Sandro Hawke: [ sorry -- last-minute regrets from me. ] ←

14:05:14 <sandro> [ I think. ]

Sandro Hawke: [ I think. ] ←

14:05:36 <bhyland> Propose to accept: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120524

Bernadette Hyland: Propose to accept: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120524 ←

14:05:43 <mhausenblas> +1

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Unknown mhausenblas: +1 ←

14:05:53 <Mike_Pendleton> Propose to accept minutes?

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Unknown Mike_Pendleton: Propose to accept minutes? ←

14:05:55 <George> +1

George Thomas: +1 ←

14:05:55 <boris> +1

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: +1 ←

14:05:58 <gatemezi> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←

14:06:01 <Mike_Pendleton> Minutes accepted

Unknown Mike_Pendleton: Minutes accepted ←

14:06:04 <MartinKaltenb> +1

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Unknown MartinKaltenb: +1 ←

14:06:26 <Mike_Pendleton> Scribe: Mike_Pendleton

(Scribe set to Unknown Mike_Pendleton)

14:06:40 <bhyland> chair: bhyland

14:06:57 <olyerickson> No. the student we have doing the PROV work is too busy doing the PROV work to talk to me :(

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Unknown olyerickson: No. the student we have doing the PROV work is too busy doing the PROV work to talk to me :( ←

14:07:26 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.

Unknown olyerickson: zakim, mute me. ←

14:07:26 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted ←

14:07:34 <olyerickson> zakim, you're a peach!

Unknown olyerickson: zakim, you're a peach! ←

14:07:34 <Zakim> I don't understand 'you're a peach!', olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'you're a peach!', olyerickson ←

14:07:49 <Mike_Pendleton> Bernadette intoduced John Barker, Wolters Kluwer

Bernadette intoduced John Barker, Wolters Kluwer ←

14:09:35 <gatemezi> URL for Wolter Kluwer: http://solutions.wolterskluwer.com/blog/author/john/

Ghislain Atemezing: URL for Wolter Kluwer: http://solutions.wolterskluwer.com/blog/author/john/ ←

14:09:43 <olyerickson> John Barker's related blog post: http://bit.ly/JPaUDW

Unknown olyerickson: John Barker's related blog post: http://bit.ly/JPaUDW ←

14:10:59 <Mike_Pendleton> John leading interactive conversation; open to separate dialog later

John leading interactive conversation; open to separate dialog later ←

14:11:03 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:12:35 <olyerickson> Wolters Kluwer intro

Unknown olyerickson: Wolters Kluwer intro ←

14:12:51 <Mike_Pendleton> John B: WK is a Dutch company, operations in 35 countries; provide content, now software combined with content; take public domain data, classify, enrich and publish it for customers.

John B: WK is a Dutch company, operations in 35 countries; provide content, now software combined with content; take public domain data, classify, enrich and publish it for customers. ←

14:13:24 <Mike_Pendleton> ...supplier of data to government and cosumer of government data

...supplier of data to government and cosumer of government data ←

14:13:58 <Mike_Pendleton> ...helped US publish IRS code 100 years ago

...helped US publish IRS code 100 years ago ←

14:14:27 <Mike_Pendleton> ...topical classification scheme used by multiple governments

...topical classification scheme used by multiple governments ←

14:16:28 <olyerickson> Q: John is saying these silos would be "ideally" linked, but are not necessarily linked (today)

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Unknown Q: John is saying these silos would be "ideally" linked, but are not necessarily linked (today) [ Scribe Assist by Unknown olyerickson ] ←

14:17:10 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←

14:17:35 <olyerickson> Q: Does Wolters Kluwer have it's own identification scheme? Does it leverage existing LEIs?

Unknown Q: Does Wolters Kluwer have it's own identification scheme? Does it leverage existing LEIs? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown olyerickson ] ←

14:18:30 <Mike_Pendleton> ...legislation is comprehensively linked to exec branch regulations; WC collects data from government; glad US is offering free content and investing in more metadata - leads to better outcomes for WC customers.  Would like government branches to agree on standards on how different source of law are referenced.

...legislation is comprehensively linked to exec branch regulations; WK collects data from government; glad US is offering free content and investing in more metadata - leads to better outcomes for WK customers. Would like government branches to agree on standards on how different source of law are referenced. ←

14:18:58 <bhyland> s/WC/WK

14:19:09 <bhyland> WK = Wolters Kluwer

Bernadette Hyland: WK = Wolters Kluwer ←

14:20:38 <Mike_Pendleton> ...WC desire for standards is beyond U.S., and includes China.  WC wants a time based element to metadata.  Research is spent on determining what version of a statute is being used.

...WK desire for standards is beyond U.S., and includes China. WK wants a time based element to metadata. Research is spent on determining what version of a statute is being used. ←

14:20:46 <bhyland> s/WC/WK

14:21:43 <MartinKaltenb> the mentioned project with WKD (Wolters Kluwer Germany) is LOD2: http://lod2.eu

Unknown MartinKaltenb: the mentioned project with WKD (Wolters Kluwer Germany) is LOD2: http://lod2.eu ←

14:21:44 <olyerickson> Q: What does "working with" mean, esp what additional metadata is being suggested?

Unknown Q: What does "working with" mean, esp what additional metadata is being suggested? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown olyerickson ] ←

14:21:46 <mhausenblas> Michael: FYI - we're working with Christian Dirschl in the LOD2 project http://lod2.eu/

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Unknown Michael: FYI - we're working with Christian Dirschl in the LOD2 project http://lod2.eu/ [ Scribe Assist by Unknown mhausenblas ] ←

14:22:06 <MartinKaltenb> Hi Michael - parallel thinking...

Unknown MartinKaltenb: Hi Michael - parallel thinking... ←

14:22:09 <olyerickson> Q: How is the described work different than e.g. DataCube?

Unknown Q: How is the described work different than e.g. DataCube? [ Scribe Assist by Unknown olyerickson ] ←

14:22:32 <Mike_Pendleton> ...Working with Open Knowledge Foundation; trying to help governments ID metadata that should be included with public domain data; how best to semantically enable data for consumption; moving increasingly to making knowlege structures available in the clood

...Working with Open Knowledge Foundation; trying to help governments ID metadata that should be included with public domain data; how best to semantically enable data for consumption; moving increasingly to making knowlege structures available in the clood ←

14:22:45 <bhyland> … Legisltation, e.g., HIPPA, Dodd Frank get amended.  The provisions retain the same citation however we don't know if the agency or court in what *timeslice* the agency or court was referring to.

Bernadette Hyland: … Legisltation, e.g., HIPPA, Dodd Frank get amended. The provisions retain the same citation however we don't know if the agency or court in what *timeslice* the agency or court was referring to. ←

14:22:54 <bhyland> … WK can provide more value to customers.  WK can help define what metadata on public domain data to semantic model for consumption, in decision trees, intelligent charts, etc.

Bernadette Hyland: … WK can provide more value to customers. WK can help define what metadata on public domain data to semantic model for consumption, in decision trees, intelligent charts, etc. ←

14:23:04 <bhyland> … WK is moving to cloud.  Looking to make available topical indices, thesauri, and other classification resources.

Bernadette Hyland: … WK is moving to cloud. Looking to make available topical indices, thesauri, and other classification resources. ←

14:23:30 <gatemezi> Q: which ontologies have they developed in WK? Are they public?

Unknown Q: which ontologies have they developed in WK? Are they public? [ Scribe Assist by Ghislain Atemezing ] ←

14:23:57 <tinagheen> +1 to question from gatemezi

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Unknown tinagheen: +1 to question from gatemezi ←

14:24:12 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:24:22 <olyerickson> unmute me.

Unknown olyerickson: unmute me. ←

14:24:31 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me

Unknown olyerickson: zakim, unmute me ←

14:24:31 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted ←

14:24:45 <bhyland> JohnBarker: "We would like to see gov'ts globally standardize metadata.  Make everything comprehensively linked.  WK would then rededicate their editors to higher value activities.

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Unknown JohnBarker: "We would like to see gov'ts globally standardize metadata. Make everything comprehensively linked. WK would then rededicate their editors to higher value activities. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

14:24:48 <Mike_Pendleton> ...Question - are your ontologies public?

...Question - are your ontologies public? ←

14:25:16 <bhyland> JohnBarker: "If that doesn't happen, we'll have Gov't agencies continue to purchase content from WK because it is more searchable.

Unknown JohnBarker: "If that doesn't happen, we'll have Gov't agencies continue to purchase content from WK because it is more searchable. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

14:26:03 <Mike_Pendleton> WK Germany and WK Netherlands makes some available; Christian Dershal (sp?) is the person to talk to.  U.S. domain ontologies are not available, need partners for that.

WK Germany and WK Netherlands makes some available; Christian Dershal (sp?) is the person to talk to. U.S. domain ontologies are not available, need partners for that. ←

14:26:07 <MartinKaltenb> WKD will publish 2 SKOS thesauri on places of trial and employment law as open data in about 2-4 weeks as far as I know

Unknown MartinKaltenb: WKD will publish 2 SKOS thesauri on places of trial and employment law as open data in about 2-4 weeks as far as I know ←

14:26:16 <MartinKaltenb> Christian Dirschl

Unknown MartinKaltenb: Christian Dirschl ←

14:26:33 <bhyland> Christian Dershal (WK) is point of contact working with Open Knowledge Foundation on publishing ontologies as LOD.

Bernadette Hyland: Christian Dershal (WK) is point of contact working with Open Knowledge Foundation on publishing ontologies as LOD. ←

14:27:25 <bhyland> Christian Dirschl

Bernadette Hyland: Christian Dirschl ←

14:27:25 <bhyland> Content Architect, Head of Content Strategy

Bernadette Hyland: Content Architect, Head of Content Strategy ←

14:27:28 <bhyland> Wolters Kluwer Germany

Bernadette Hyland: Wolters Kluwer Germany ←

14:27:40 <olyerickson> http://solutions.wolterskluwer.com/blog/author/christian-dirschl/

Unknown olyerickson: http://solutions.wolterskluwer.com/blog/author/christian-dirschl/ ←

14:28:13 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds

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14:28:15 <Mike_Pendleton> Bernadette question - how to motivate gov't;  how do you make your data available to gov't agencies?

Bernadette question - how to motivate gov't; how do you make your data available to gov't agencies? ←

14:29:21 <olyerickson> q+

Unknown olyerickson: q+ ←

14:29:57 <bhyland> JohnBarker on why gov't agencies use WK content?

Bernadette Hyland: JohnBarker on why gov't agencies use WK content? ←

14:29:57 <bhyland> * Gov has discarded their content, they haven't archived.

Bernadette Hyland: * Gov has discarded their content, they haven't archived. ←

14:29:57 <bhyland> * Gov agency may request content via email or facsimile.  Say an agency lawyer.

Bernadette Hyland: * Gov agency may request content via email or facsimile. Say an agency lawyer. ←

14:30:07 <Mike_Pendleton> John: Gov't agencies in some cases have discarded archives, lawyers and regulatory staff sometimes need it; request it from WK

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Unknown John: Gov't agencies in some cases have discarded archives, lawyers and regulatory staff sometimes need it; request it from WK ←

14:30:53 <Mike_Pendleton> ...Gov't agencies sometimes aggregate statutes and make them available on their website (e.g., SEC) ; others don't

...Gov't agencies sometimes aggregate statutes and make them available on their website (e.g., SEC) ; others don't ←

14:33:37 <Mike_Pendleton> ....there is no comprehensive aggregation of cases by gov't; for example, courts don't always follow a standard when referencing regulations.  WK invests effort to address this.  We arrange sources of law by relative authority by topic and explain how they inter-relate.

....there is no comprehensive aggregation of cases by gov't; for example, courts don't always follow a standard when referencing regulations. WK invests effort to address this. We arrange sources of law by relative authority by topic and explain how they inter-relate. ←

14:34:41 <Mike_Pendleton> ...If there were links created between content by gov't, that would help; this is why gov't's rely on WK;

...If there were links created between content by gov't, that would help; this is why gov't's rely on WK; ←

14:35:35 <bhyland> … If gov't would LINK them, then WK could just focus on commentary & explanations.

Bernadette Hyland: … If gov't would LINK them, then WK could just focus on commentary & explanations. ←

14:35:35 <bhyland> WK has lawyers & CPAs spending their time FINDING content rather than using their expertise to write commentary and explanations.

Bernadette Hyland: WK has lawyers & CPAs spending their time FINDING content rather than using their expertise to write commentary and explanations. ←

14:36:39 <Mike_Pendleton> ...for example, the fed might want to know about legal/regulatory innovations in California or another state.  Gov'ts want to know about what other gov'ts are doing in how things are regulated.  WK aggregates a cross jurisdictional view - 'smart charts' that help answer questions

...for example, the fed might want to know about legal/regulatory innovations in California or another state. Gov'ts want to know about what other gov'ts are doing in how things are regulated. WK aggregates a cross jurisdictional view - 'smart charts' that help answer questions ←

14:38:01 <Mike_Pendleton> ...the answers to specific questions are organized by jurisdiction, which give instant answers to questions like 'what are the privacy regulations' - they differ by jurisdictions.

...the answers to specific questions are organized by jurisdiction, which give instant answers to questions like 'what are the privacy regulations' - they differ by jurisdictions. ←

14:38:44 <Mike_Pendleton> ...if governments would put more effort in the metadata, many others would save $ and greater value would be derived.

...if governments would put more effort in the metadata, many others would save $ and greater value would be derived. ←

14:38:47 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:41:06 <Mike_Pendleton> John E Question: I work at RPI on LOD gov't work, several things you touched on are of interest - linking together datasets - legal entity IDs for different datasets; and problem of regs that specify regulator requirments; and access to other data silos

John E Question: I work at RPI on LOD gov't work, several things you touched on are of interest - linking together datasets - legal entity IDs for different datasets; and problem of regs that specify regulator requirments; and access to other data silos ←

14:41:46 <bhyland> zakim, who is speaking?

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14:41:57 <Zakim> bhyland, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds

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14:42:16 <olyerickson> olyerickson also mentioned the OrgPedia project (Beth Noveck, Jim Hendler, et.al.)

Unknown olyerickson: olyerickson also mentioned the OrgPedia project (Beth Noveck, Jim Hendler, et.al.) ←

14:42:29 <bhyland> zakim, mute olyerickson

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14:42:29 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted

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14:42:30 <olyerickson> mute me

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14:43:13 <bhyland> JohnBarker: "What is the law on privacy, e.g., health records, information on a customer?  They differ in every juridiction.  THere is a lot of open government data available, however it has to be classified, linked, annotated and distributed in a reusable manner.

Unknown JohnBarker: "What is the law on privacy, e.g., health records, information on a customer? They differ in every juridiction. THere is a lot of open government data available, however it has to be classified, linked, annotated and distributed in a reusable manner. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

14:43:55 <Mike_Pendleton> John: There are business rules that go with metadata entry; if I am a piece of content labeled on regulation; and there is a certain context with a regulation; a common vocab across all data, jurisdictions and governments and business rules so that links how knowledge of the relative authority of each regulation.

Unknown John: There are business rules that go with metadata entry; if I am a piece of content labeled on regulation; and there is a certain context with a regulation; a common vocab across all data, jurisdictions and governments and business rules so that links how knowledge of the relative authority of each regulation. ←

14:44:03 <bhyland> … Everyone benefits if the gov't spends tax dollars to make data available using standard vocabularies and best practices, especially around provenance, URI policy & services, standard vocabularies  for tax, legal & regulation.  Ideally, a common vocabulary across all juridictions ... Also, business rules that are linked expressing relative authority of a piece of data (e.g., case law, regulation, etc)

Bernadette Hyland: … Everyone benefits if the gov't spends tax dollars to make data available using standard vocabularies and best practices, especially around provenance, URI policy & services, standard vocabularies for tax, legal & regulation. Ideally, a common vocabulary across all juridictions ... Also, business rules that are linked expressing relative authority of a piece of data (e.g., case law, regulation, etc) ←

14:44:27 <olyerickson> unmute me

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14:44:35 <Mike_Pendleton> ...some users are bound by a case, others not, based on relative authority

...some users are bound by a case, others not, based on relative authority ←

14:44:38 <olyerickson> unmute me

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14:44:47 <olyerickson> never mind

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14:44:47 <bhyland> zakim, unmute olyerickson

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14:44:47 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted

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14:46:26 <Mike_Pendleton> John E Question: Orgpedia is operating to help aggregate open source corporate data to help gov't to get access to data which is not normally used by their agency but is by others.  Hinges on exposing identifiers and linking them.

John E Question: Orgpedia is operating to help aggregate open source corporate data to help gov't to get access to data which is not normally used by their agency but is by others. Hinges on exposing identifiers and linking them. ←

14:46:58 <bhyland> olyerickson: "First use cases are directed at government, people in agencies needing to use inter-government agency content.  Requires exposing identifiers and linking them ... none is commonly available.  You have to troll to find out what is available.

Unknown olyerickson: "First use cases are directed at government, people in agencies needing to use inter-government agency content. Requires exposing identifiers and linking them ... none is commonly available. You have to troll to find out what is available. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

14:47:54 <Mike_Pendleton> ...none of this is commonly available; in the open space, it is arduous task.  There are a lot of inconsistencies between gov't agencies as how companies are identified; disambiguation is hard, and is what SW was created for.

...none of this is commonly available; in the open space, it is arduous task. There are a lot of inconsistencies between gov't agencies as how companies are identified; disambiguation is hard, and is what SW was created for. ←

14:48:37 <olyerickson> mute me

Unknown olyerickson: mute me ←

14:49:06 <olyerickson> bhyland: No more questions for this witness ;)

Bernadette Hyland: No more questions for this witness ;) [ Scribe Assist by Unknown olyerickson ] ←

14:50:40 <Mike_Pendleton> John:  Standards are important; USC is inconsistent; some titles change the order in which parts appear.  WK would like standardization; but challenge is how standardization is maintained and persistence assured.  WK used query transformation to address this.  Makes the query match the data that exists. WK also adds metadata, markup.

Unknown John: Standards are important; USC is inconsistent; some titles change the order in which parts appear. WK would like standardization; but challenge is how standardization is maintained and persistence assured. WK used query transformation to address this. Makes the query match the data that exists. WK also adds metadata, markup. ←

14:51:19 <Mike_Pendleton> ...a third thing is when they are unable to change content in a meaningful way, we have human editors create connections.

...a third thing is when they are unable to change content in a meaningful way, we have human editors create connections. ←

14:52:10 <olyerickson> JohnBarker: creating "hybrid content business solutions..." (did I hear that right?)

Unknown JohnBarker: creating "hybrid content business solutions..." (did I hear that right?) [ Scribe Assist by Unknown olyerickson ] ←

14:52:37 <Mike_Pendleton> ...WK creates hybrid content software solutions - drive workflow steps in a software application.  Requires accurate info - human layer needed; can't rely on content logic yet

...WK creates hybrid content software solutions - drive workflow steps in a software application. Requires accurate info - human layer needed; can't rely on content logic yet ←

14:52:43 <bhyland> … WK addresses content as follows:

Bernadette Hyland: … WK addresses content as follows: ←

14:52:43 <bhyland> 1) Query transformation, synonyms, root extensions, to make the query match the data that exists.

Bernadette Hyland: 1) Query transformation, synonyms, root extensions, to make the query match the data that exists. ←

14:52:43 <bhyland> 2) Enrich content with metadata, fix errors, add markup

Bernadette Hyland: 2) Enrich content with metadata, fix errors, add markup ←

14:52:43 <bhyland> 3) If we cannot delegate to the search engine, we have human editors manually create a connection.  There are examples where administrative rulings don't reference Code.

Bernadette Hyland: 3) If we cannot delegate to the search engine, we have human editors manually create a connection. There are examples where administrative rulings don't reference Code. ←

14:52:50 <bhyland> … Hybrid content software solutions, where content generates business rules.  That drives workflow steps in a software application.  We have to have highly accurate content to codify it.  A human today must interpret the content that in turn a s/w developer has to put into code.  We cannot semantically model the content yet.

Bernadette Hyland: … Hybrid content software solutions, where content generates business rules. That drives workflow steps in a software application. We have to have highly accurate content to codify it. A human today must interpret the content that in turn a s/w developer has to put into code. We cannot semantically model the content yet. ←

14:53:13 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:53:19 <bhyland> ack olyerickson

Bernadette Hyland: ack olyerickson ←

14:53:19 <olyerickson> q-

Unknown olyerickson: q- ←

14:54:35 <olyerickson> Very concerned about the proprietary nature of e.g. their ontologies (the schemae that make it all sensible)

Unknown olyerickson: Very concerned about the proprietary nature of e.g. their ontologies (the schemae that make it all sensible) ←

14:55:45 <olyerickson> we need not only linked open govt data, but linked open govt ontologies...if the vendors want $$$ to understand the data, then it's not open

Unknown olyerickson: we need not only linked open govt data, but linked open govt ontologies...if the vendors want $$$ to understand the data, then it's not open ←

14:57:02 <Mike_Pendleton> Bernadette:  Clear need for coordination!   Web Masters need clear markup instructions.  WK and others have a lot to gain with government doing this.  What about WK sharing ontologies and helping to drive this.

Bernadette Hyland: Clear need for coordination! Web Masters need clear markup instructions. WK and others have a lot to gain with government doing this. What about WK sharing ontologies and helping to drive this. ←

14:58:36 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

14:59:00 <gatemezi> Thanks for the presentation, John!

Ghislain Atemezing: Thanks for the presentation, John! ←

14:59:11 <olyerickson> Yes, thanks JohnBarker

Unknown olyerickson: Yes, thanks JohnBarker ←

14:59:35 <mhausenblas> Indeed, thanks a lot for the presentation, John

Unknown mhausenblas: Indeed, thanks a lot for the presentation, John ←

14:59:51 <MartinKaltenb> many thanks John also from my side!

Unknown MartinKaltenb: many thanks John also from my side! ←

15:01:24 <bhyland> Agreed: To continue the dialog between the international professional publishing sector & gov't & int'l standards group.

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Unknown Agreed: To continue the dialog between the international professional publishing sector & gov't & int'l standards group. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

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15:02:23 <MartinKaltenb> thanks - bye

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15:03:56 <bhyland> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible

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15:04:05 <bhyland> RRSAgent, generate minutes

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15:04:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-gld-minutes.html bhyland

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15:05:00 <bhyland> https://www.w3.org/2009/CommonScribe/panel/?group=gld&go=Use+This+Group

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15:06:39 <bhyland> Minutes from today's meeting published here: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-05-31

Bernadette Hyland: Minutes from today's meeting published here: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-05-31 ←

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15:14:33 <Zakim> Attendees were mikependleton, +1.847.668.aaaa, bhyland, boris, mhausenblas, cygri, olyerickson, George_Thomas, gatemezi, +3539149aabb, DaveReynolds, BrendanIAB, JohnBarker,

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