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Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 26 April 2012

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120426
Seen
Bart van Leeuwen, Benedikt Kaempgen, Bernadette Hyland, Biplav Srivastava, Boris Villazón-Terrazas, Gerald Steeman, Ghislain Atemezing, Hadley Beeman, John Erickson, Luis Bermudez, Martín Álvarez, Michael Hausenblas, Michael Pendleton, Phil Archer, Sandro Hawke, Tina Gheen, Yigal Arens
Regrets
Tina Gheen, Yigal Arens, Michael Pendleton, Michael Hausenblas, Luis Bermudez
Chair
Bernadette Hyland
Scribe
Ghislain Atemezing
IRC Log
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13:59:08 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/04/26-gld-irc

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13:59:36 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

13:59:36 <Zakim> sorry, bhyland, I don't know what conference this is

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13:59:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, gatemezi, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, cygri, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, gatemezi, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, cygri, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

13:59:54 <sandro> trackbot, start meeting

Sandro Hawke: trackbot, start meeting

13:59:56 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world

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13:59:58 <sandro> RRSAgent, this is gld

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13:59:58 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'this is gld', sandro.  Try /msg RRSAgent help

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13:59:58 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD

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13:59:59 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started

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13:59:59 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:00:00 <trackbot> Date: 26 April 2012
14:00:06 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

14:00:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see +33.4.93.00.aaaa, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +33.4.93.00.aaaa, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen

14:00:06 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: Zakim, who is on the call?

14:00:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see +33.4.93.00.aaaa, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +33.4.93.00.aaaa, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen

14:00:20 <Zakim> +??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P6

14:00:26 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who's here?

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here?

14:00:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see +33.4.93.00.aaaa, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, ??P6

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +33.4.93.00.aaaa, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, ??P6

14:00:28 <martinAlvarez> zakim, p6 is me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, p6 is me

14:00:31 <Zakim> On IRC I see BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez, Zakim, RRSAgent, gatemezi, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, cygri, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez, Zakim, RRSAgent, gatemezi, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, cygri, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

14:00:32 <gatemezi> Scribe: Ghislain

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14:00:37 <Zakim> sorry, martinAlvarez, I do not recognize a party named 'p6'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, martinAlvarez, I do not recognize a party named 'p6'

14:00:40 <gatemezi> Chair: Bernadette
14:00:49 <martinAlvarez> zakim, ??p6 is me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??p6 is me

14:00:53 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

14:00:54 <bhyland> zakim, aaaa is gatemezi

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aaaa is gatemezi

14:00:56 <Zakim> +martinAlvarez; got it

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14:01:01 <martinAlvarez> zakim, mute me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, mute me

14:01:02 <Zakim> +gatemezi; got it

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14:01:09 <Zakim> martinAlvarez should now be muted

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14:01:11 <gatemezi> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120426
14:01:23 <gatemezi> Zakim, who's here?

Zakim, who's here?

14:01:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see gatemezi, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez (muted), Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see gatemezi, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez (muted), Sandro

14:01:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez, Zakim, RRSAgent, gatemezi, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, cygri, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez, Zakim, RRSAgent, gatemezi, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, cygri, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

14:01:56 <Zakim> +??P17

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P17

14:02:03 <gatemezi> rrsagent, make records public

rrsagent, make records public

14:02:07 <boris> zakim, ??P17 is me

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, ??P17 is me

14:02:07 <Zakim> +boris; got it

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14:02:14 <Zakim> +??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19

14:02:25 <BartvanLeeuwen> zakim, ??p19 is me

Bart van Leeuwen: zakim, ??p19 is me

14:02:25 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

14:02:28 <Zakim> + +1.518.276.aabb

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14:02:36 <olyerickson> zakim, I am aabb

John Erickson: zakim, I am aabb

14:02:36 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it

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14:02:57 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?

John Erickson: zakim, who is on the phone?

14:03:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see gatemezi, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez (muted), Sandro, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see gatemezi, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez (muted), Sandro, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson

14:03:12 <Zakim> + +1.440.389.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.440.389.aacc

14:03:18 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.

John Erickson: zakim, mute me.

14:03:18 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted

14:03:28 <bhyland> Regrets: Tina_Gheen, Yigal_Arens, Michael_Pendleton, Michael_Hausenblas, Luis_Bermudez
14:03:53 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: Government Linked Data (GLD) WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120426

Sandro Hawke: sandro has changed the topic to: Government Linked Data (GLD) WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120426

14:05:10 <Zakim> +GeraldSteeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +GeraldSteeman

14:06:05 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: Government Linked Data (GLD) WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120426

Sandro Hawke: sandro has changed the topic to: Government Linked Data (GLD) WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120426

14:06:19 <gatemezi> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20120426
14:06:54 <gatemezi> Topic: Minutes http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-04-19

1. Minutes http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2012-04-19

14:07:20 <martinAlvarez> +1

Martín Álvarez: +1

14:07:23 <boris> +º

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: +º

14:07:25 <boris> +1

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: +1

14:07:29 <BenediktKaempgen> +1 minutes

Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 minutes

14:07:29 <gatemezi> +1

+1

14:07:55 <gatemezi> Approved last minutes

Approved last minutes

14:08:20 <bhyland> 10-May-2012 telecon is cancelled

Bernadette Hyland: 10-May-2012 telecon is cancelled

14:08:20 <bhyland> 06-June-2012 telecon is cancelled

Bernadette Hyland: 06-June-2012 telecon is cancelled

14:09:05 <gatemezi> bhyland:  Someone wants to add something in today agenda?

Bernadette Hyland: Someone wants to add something in today agenda?

14:10:10 <gatemezi> Topic: Procurement

2. Procurement

14:10:20 <Zakim> + +91.80.67.84.aadd

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14:11:13 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

14:11:14 <gatemezi> bhyland: In USA, it is a big deal with procurement, specially with researchers ...

Bernadette Hyland: In USA, it is a big deal with procurement, specially with researchers ...

14:11:32 <bhyland> zakim, aadd is Biplav

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aadd is Biplav

14:11:32 <Zakim> +Biplav; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Biplav; got it

14:12:41 <gatemezi> ???: In NASA they do basic operation, they do have contract, but don't have flexibility

Scribe problem: the name 'Joe' does not match any of the 60 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila Dave Reynolds David Hau David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Deirdre Lee Elena Montiel Ponsoda Eric VonColln Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yigal Arens Yosuke Funahashi Zachary Whitley Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Joe: In NASA they do basic operation, they do have contract, but don't have flexibility

14:13:39 <gatemezi> s/???/Joe
14:15:10 <gatemezi> bhyland: Who's the target audience of our ComDir? Need broader discussion on the target audience...

Bernadette Hyland: Who's the target audience of our ComDir? Need broader discussion on the target audience...

14:15:32 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.

John Erickson: zakim, unmute me.

14:15:32 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted

14:15:36 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:15:41 <bhyland> ack HadleyBeeman

Bernadette Hyland: ack HadleyBeeman

14:16:29 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

14:17:46 <gatemezi> HadleyBeeman: gives some highlighgts in the UK context....

Hadley Beeman: gives some highlighgts in the UK context....

14:18:47 <HadleyBeeman> Having that "w3c thing to point to" would certainly help expand the market of contractors who can help with linked data.

Hadley Beeman: Having that "w3c thing to point to" would certainly help expand the market of contractors who can help with linked data.

14:19:27 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:19:31 <bhyland> ack sandro

Bernadette Hyland: ack sandro

14:19:34 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q-

14:19:53 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call?

14:19:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see gatemezi, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez (muted), Sandro, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, +1.440.389.aacc, GeraldSteeman, Biplav

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see gatemezi, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez (muted), Sandro, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, +1.440.389.aacc, GeraldSteeman, Biplav

14:20:02 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aacc is me

Hadley Beeman: zakim, aacc is me

14:20:02 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman; got it

14:20:43 <olyerickson> +1 to "standard deck" idea...

John Erickson: +1 to "standard deck" idea...

14:21:15 <Biplav> q+

Biplav Srivastava: q+

14:21:44 <olyerickson> ** there are 100's (now) slideshows on "Linked Data" but very few that will be useful for the target audience we're speaking of

John Erickson: ** there are 100's (now) slideshows on "Linked Data" but very few that will be useful for the target audience we're speaking of

14:22:15 <gatemezi> bhyland: Vocabs, BP, etc...begin to have interests.. It could be great to have a book for developers (LD)

Bernadette Hyland: Vocabs, BP, etc...begin to have interests.. It could be great to have a book for developers (LD)

14:22:58 <olyerickson> "Gov't Linked Data for Dummies" (or Managers...same thing)

John Erickson: "Gov't Linked Data for Dummies" (or Managers...same thing)

14:23:13 <olyerickson> LOL

John Erickson: LOL

14:23:16 <olyerickson> I'm qualifie

John Erickson: I'm qualifie

14:23:20 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:24:22 <bhyland> Biplav: In Western countries "Open Gov't Data is seen as a way of energizing the economy…" Another benefit that other other parts of the world are looking at are accountability and dealing with corruption.

Biplav Srivastava: In Western countries "Open Gov't Data is seen as a way of energizing the economy…" Another benefit that other other parts of the world are looking at are accountability and dealing with corruption. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:24:58 <bhyland> … Thinking about securing economic growth is a very important concept for countries like India and China, Biplav imagines.

Bernadette Hyland: … Thinking about securing economic growth is a very important concept for countries like India and China, Biplav imagines.

14:25:32 <bhyland> … Hurdle is not about technology, rather, about policy.  There aren't many resources / guidance for what to open up...

Bernadette Hyland: … Hurdle is not about technology, rather, about policy. There aren't many resources / guidance for what to open up...

14:25:33 <gatemezi> Biplav: we could deal also the policy issue..e.g: India

Biplav Srivastava: we could deal also the policy issue..e.g: India

14:26:29 <gatemezi> Biplav: The national policy should be the first in place...but it is not yet present...

Biplav Srivastava: The national policy should be the first in place...but it is not yet present...

14:26:39 <bhyland> … Policy should be the first thing, then technology and best practices would definitely help.  It turns out that procurement is one of the most common and not surprisingly, most prone to corruption.

Bernadette Hyland: … Policy should be the first thing, then technology and best practices would definitely help. It turns out that procurement is one of the most common and not surprisingly, most prone to corruption.

14:28:56 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to providing examples with their own data

Hadley Beeman: +1 to providing examples with their own data

14:29:52 <bhyland> … Corruption is very well documented, all the way to the UN level.  Streamlined procurement and addressing corruption.

Bernadette Hyland: … Corruption is very well documented, all the way to the UN level. Streamlined procurement and addressing corruption.

14:30:04 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:30:08 <bhyland> ack Biplav

Bernadette Hyland: ack Biplav

14:30:55 <bhyland> eGov IG is a good place to speak about policy … Jeanne Holm and Tomaz the new co-chair … good place to participate.

Bernadette Hyland: eGov IG is a good place to speak about policy … Jeanne Holm and Tomaz the new co-chair … good place to participate.

14:31:55 <gatemezi> eGov IG URL: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page

eGov IG URL: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page

14:32:23 <bhyland> W3C sites (using WP) launched in 2011 has:

Bernadette Hyland: W3C sites (using WP) launched in 2011 has:

14:32:23 <bhyland> 1) http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/

Bernadette Hyland: 1) http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/

14:32:23 <bhyland>

Bernadette Hyland:

14:32:23 <bhyland> 2) http://www.w3.org/standards/semanticweb/data

Bernadette Hyland: 2) http://www.w3.org/standards/semanticweb/data

14:32:24 <bhyland> W3C catalyst in the catalyst of communities

Bernadette Hyland: W3C catalyst in the catalyst of communities

14:32:28 <bhyland> 3) W3C Community and Business Groups, see http://www.w3.org/community/

Bernadette Hyland: 3) W3C Community and Business Groups, see http://www.w3.org/community/

14:32:33 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/community/about/

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/community/about/

14:33:22 <Zakim> -olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson

14:33:44 <Zakim> +??P14

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P14

14:33:54 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P14 is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ??P14 is me

14:33:54 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA2; got it

14:34:08 <gatemezi> Topic: W3C sites launched:

3. W3C sites launched:

14:34:12 <Zakim> +olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson

14:34:45 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Rhizomer

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Rhizomer

14:36:43 <bhyland> Sandro: Overall structure of W3C includes Working Groups (heavy commitment) .. on the other end of the spectrum, are lighter commitment groups, "Community Group"

Sandro Hawke: Overall structure of W3C includes Working Groups (heavy commitment) .. on the other end of the spectrum, are lighter commitment groups, "Community Group" [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:38:10 <gatemezi> sandro: gives the difference between "Incubator gorups", "community group" and "working group"

Sandro Hawke: gives the difference between "Incubator gorups", "community group" and "working group"

14:38:20 <bhyland> Sandro: There are about 80 Community Groups.  It has replaced the incubator group that lead to the Provenance Group, for example.  The Community Groups do not have W3C professional staff associated with them.

Sandro Hawke: There are about 80 Community Groups. It has replaced the incubator group that lead to the Provenance Group, for example. The Community Groups do not have W3C professional staff associated with them. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:39:32 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+

Bart van Leeuwen: q+

14:39:33 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/community/about/#bg

Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/community/about/#bg

14:39:35 <bhyland> Sandro: W3C Business Groups are heavier weight, there is a cost associated with them.  There is professional support associated with them.

Sandro Hawke: W3C Business Groups are heavier weight, there is a cost associated with them. There is professional support associated with them. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:39:45 <bhyland> They don't produce standards.

Bernadette Hyland: They don't produce standards.

14:39:52 <bhyland> Patent policy is different.

Bernadette Hyland: Patent policy is different.

14:40:00 <gatemezi> sandro: "Business Group" is cheaper than W3C...They don't make standards..

Sandro Hawke: "Business Group" is cheaper than W3C...They don't make standards..

14:40:09 <bhyland> Some businesses won't join a group unless the patent policy is "just right".

Bernadette Hyland: Some businesses won't join a group unless the patent policy is "just right".

14:40:47 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/community/groups/

Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/community/groups/

14:41:17 <bhyland> PhilA: The reason for the business group is to provide social engineering with a vertical focus.

Phil Archer: The reason for the business group is to provide social engineering with a vertical focus. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:42:41 <bhyland> They don't have a strong link with W3C .. a way for W3C to become more visible and relevant.

Bernadette Hyland: They don't have a strong link with W3C .. a way for W3C to become more visible and relevant.

14:44:16 <gatemezi> Topic: ComDir

4. ComDir

14:44:29 <bhyland> Topic: Adding companies, products to the W3C Semantic Media Wiki site: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/

5. Adding companies, products to the W3C Semantic Media Wiki site: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/

14:46:25 <bhyland> Sandro: Has a lot of data but some people consider it a restrictive to enter.

Sandro Hawke: Has a lot of data but some people consider it a restrictive to enter. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:46:28 <bhyland> Under http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Main_Page

Bernadette Hyland: Under http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Main_Page

14:46:37 <BenediktKaempgen> Or Maybe: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Special:Categories

Benedikt Kaempgen: Or Maybe: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Special:Categories

14:47:50 <olyerickson> q+

John Erickson: q+

14:47:51 <gatemezi> bhyland: how do we make the ComDir better? We can use the sw wiki and connect to our work

Bernadette Hyland: how do we make the ComDir better? We can use the sw wiki and connect to our work

14:48:53 <bhyland> There is a listing of tools on the W3C semantic web wiki page: see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Category:Tool

Bernadette Hyland: There is a listing of tools on the W3C semantic web wiki page: see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/wiki/Category:Tool

14:49:42 <bhyland> Topic: New Startup Member W3C category.

6. New Startup Member W3C category.

14:49:52 <BenediktKaempgen> q+

Benedikt Kaempgen: q+

14:50:08 <BartvanLeeuwen> ack me

Bart van Leeuwen: ack me

14:50:20 <bhyland> ack olyerickson

Bernadette Hyland: ack olyerickson

14:50:26 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/Consortium/fees-201202

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/Consortium/fees-201202

14:50:36 <bhyland> Topic: Community Directory (return to)

7. Community Directory (return to)

14:50:53 <bhyland> Goal is to make the Community Directory more usable.

Bernadette Hyland: Goal is to make the Community Directory more usable.

14:51:11 <bhyland> and friendly, usable to more stakeholders.

Bernadette Hyland: and friendly, usable to more stakeholders.

14:52:58 <PhilA2> Fees for Dutch companies. I was wrong, Sandro was right, it's ¤2K for start ups http://www.w3.org/Consortium/fees?country=Netherlands&quarter=04-01&year=2012#results

Phil Archer: Fees for Dutch companies. I was wrong, Sandro was right, it's ¤2K for start ups http://www.w3.org/Consortium/fees?country=Netherlands&quarter=04-01&year=2012#results

14:52:58 <bhyland> Olyerickson: There are things that may or may not be done with the bit 3 search engines.

John Erickson: There are things that may or may not be done with the bit 3 search engines. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:53:15 <sandro> BartvanLeeuwen, see http://www.w3.org/Consortium/fees-201202#startup and http://www.w3.org/Consortium/fees?country=Netherlands&quarter=04-01&year=2012#results      It's EUR 1950.

Sandro Hawke: BartvanLeeuwen, see http://www.w3.org/Consortium/fees-201202#startup and http://www.w3.org/Consortium/fees?country=Netherlands&quarter=04-01&year=2012#results It's EUR 1950.

14:53:46 <bhyland> Olyerickson: What can we do to surface the data using RDFa, microformats, schema.org

John Erickson: What can we do to surface the data using RDFa, microformats, schema.org [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:54:07 <sandro> q?

Sandro Hawke: q?

14:54:14 <bhyland> +1

Bernadette Hyland: +1

14:54:26 <sandro> q+ usability

Sandro Hawke: q+ usability

14:54:29 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

14:54:47 <sandro> q- usability

Sandro Hawke: q- usability

14:54:54 <sandro> q+ to say usability is king

Sandro Hawke: q+ to say usability is king

14:55:51 <gatemezi> Zakim, who's is here?

Zakim, who's is here?

14:55:51 <Zakim> sorry, gatemezi, I do not understand your question

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, gatemezi, I do not understand your question

14:56:00 <bhyland> olyerickson: We need to make the CD found by everyone interested in best practices, vocabs and anything else we produce to serve this community.

John Erickson: We need to make the CD found by everyone interested in best practices, vocabs and anything else we produce to serve this community. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:56:05 <gatemezi> Zakim, who's here?

Zakim, who's here?

14:56:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see gatemezi, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez (muted), Sandro, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Biplav, PhilA2, olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see gatemezi, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez (muted), Sandro, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Biplav, PhilA2, olyerickson

14:56:09 <Zakim> On IRC I see PhilA2, Biplav, HadleyBeeman, olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez, Zakim, RRSAgent, gatemezi, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, cygri, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see PhilA2, Biplav, HadleyBeeman, olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez, Zakim, RRSAgent, gatemezi, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, cygri, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

14:56:27 <sandro> +10000

Sandro Hawke: +10000

14:56:57 <sandro> +1 sw/wiki is not a very use friendly site

Sandro Hawke: +1 sw/wiki is not a very use friendly site

14:57:08 <gatemezi> BenediktKaempgen: sw tool is not a useful and friendly tool

Benedikt Kaempgen: sw tool is not a useful and friendly tool

14:57:42 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:57:46 <bhyland> q+

Bernadette Hyland: q+

14:57:57 <bhyland> ack BenediktKaempgen

Bernadette Hyland: ack BenediktKaempgen

14:58:03 <bhyland> ack sandro

Bernadette Hyland: ack sandro

14:58:03 <Zakim> sandro, you wanted to say usability is king

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, you wanted to say usability is king

14:58:36 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to Sandro:  usability is more important than semantic analysis (where we have to choose)

Hadley Beeman: +1 to Sandro: usability is more important than semantic analysis (where we have to choose)

14:58:42 <gatemezi> Sandro: The key thing with ComDir is usability...not really the technology behind

Sandro Hawke: The key thing with ComDir is usability...not really the technology behind

14:58:46 <bhyland> Sandro: I don't think any sem web technologies are relevant per se, rather the content & usability is key.  Focus must be on usability.

Sandro Hawke: I don't think any sem web technologies are relevant per se, rather the content & usability is key. Focus must be on usability. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:59:04 <bhyland> The most usable site is one that has data that can be exported.

Bernadette Hyland: The most usable site is one that has data that can be exported.

14:59:09 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to Sandro:  usability is more important than semantic analysis (where we have to choose) — for this situation (the community directory)

Hadley Beeman: +1 to Sandro:  usability is more important than semantic analysis (where we have to choose) — for this situation (the community directory)

14:59:45 <gatemezi> olyerickson: ComDir could be also focused on the users...

John Erickson: ComDir could be also focused on the users...

14:59:52 <gatemezi> +1 to Sandro point...

+1 to Sandro point...

15:00:12 <gatemezi> Zakim, who's here?

Zakim, who's here?

15:00:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see gatemezi, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez (muted), Sandro, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Biplav, PhilA2, olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see gatemezi, bhyland, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez (muted), Sandro, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Biplav, PhilA2, olyerickson

15:00:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see PhilA2, Biplav, HadleyBeeman, olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez, Zakim, RRSAgent, gatemezi, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, cygri, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see PhilA2, Biplav, HadleyBeeman, olyerickson, BenediktKaempgen, martinAlvarez, Zakim, RRSAgent, gatemezi, boris, BartvanLeeuwen, MacTed, cygri, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

15:00:31 <sandro> sandro: ... but we do need to make sure the data is always available for export, so people can make other interfaces to it.

Sandro Hawke: ... but we do need to make sure the data is always available for export, so people can make other interfaces to it. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

15:00:38 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

15:00:43 <bhyland> ack bhyland

Bernadette Hyland: ack bhyland

15:00:47 <BenediktKaempgen> +1 for focusing on the content and nost on the usabilit mostly

Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 for focusing on the content and nost on the usabilit mostly

15:01:43 <gatemezi> bhyland: It has been a useful discussion... Need volunteers for ComDir

Bernadette Hyland: It has been a useful discussion... Need volunteers for ComDir

15:01:55 <gatemezi> Topic: Announcement

8. Announcement

15:02:33 <bhyland> Open Gov't Transparency Conference in DC run by Sunlight Foundation

Bernadette Hyland: Open Gov't Transparency Conference in DC run by Sunlight Foundation

15:02:49 <Zakim> -GeraldSteeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -GeraldSteeman

15:02:59 <Zakim> -olyerickson

Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson

15:03:01 <BartvanLeeuwen> thx bye

Bart van Leeuwen: thx bye

15:03:02 <Zakim> -PhilA2

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA2

15:03:03 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks!

Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks!

15:03:03 <Zakim> -Biplav

Zakim IRC Bot: -Biplav

15:03:10 <Zakim> -martinAlvarez

Zakim IRC Bot: -martinAlvarez

15:03:14 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: -BenediktKaempgen

15:03:17 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen

Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen

15:03:21 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

15:04:14 <gatemezi> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible

RRSAgent, set logs world-visible

15:04:34 <gatemezi> RRSAgent, generate minutes

RRSAgent, generate minutes

15:04:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/26-gld-minutes.html gatemezi

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/04/26-gld-minutes.html gatemezi

15:04:58 <Zakim> -boris

Zakim IRC Bot: -boris



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