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14:04:27 <olyerickson> zakim, who is on the phone?
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14:05:28 <cgueret> how do you know what's your number with a voip phone?
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14:05:37 <olyerickson> @cygri hi! ;)
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14:05:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see olyerickson (muted), PhilA2, +26006aabb, rreck (muted), Makx, raphael, GeraldSteeman, Martín Álvarez (muted), +90700006aacc, cygri
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14:05:52 <cygri> zakim, BenediktKaempgen is with me
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14:06:04 <rreck> cgueret: i just look who it shows joins when i join
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14:06:16 <PhilA2> Topic: DCAT
14:06:22 <PhilA2> Current version at http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Vocabulary_Reference
Phil Archer: Current version at http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Vocabulary_Reference ←
14:06:54 <olyerickson> Q's for DCAT:
John Erickson: Q's for DCAT: ←
14:06:57 <olyerickson> 1. Stable?
John Erickson: 1. Stable? ←
14:07:06 <olyerickson> 2. What it will take for DCAT to be stable?
John Erickson: 2. What it will take for DCAT to be stable? ←
14:07:16 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary
Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary ←
14:07:31 <olyerickson> cygri: Will recap
Richard Cyganiak: Will recap [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ] ←
14:07:35 <cygri> http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Use_Cases_and_Requirements
Richard Cyganiak: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Data_Catalog_Vocabulary/Use_Cases_and_Requirements ←
14:07:44 <olyerickson> ... see pages linked above
John Erickson: ... see pages linked above ←
14:07:57 <olyerickson> ... esp. use cases DCAT is designed to address
John Erickson: ... esp. use cases DCAT is designed to address ←
14:08:26 <olyerickson> ... history: Emerged from work at DERI
John Erickson: ... history: Emerged from work at DERI ←
14:08:41 <PhilA2> scribe: olyerickson
(Scribe set to John Erickson)
14:08:52 <olyerickson> ... based on existing data catalogs incl Data.gov
... based on existing data catalogs incl Data.gov ←
14:09:08 <PhilA2> zakim, room for 2 more?
Phil Archer: zakim, room for 2 more? ←
14:09:08 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, PhilA2.
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, PhilA2. ←
14:09:14 <olyerickson> ... DERI compared sites, tried to capture "common core"
... DERI compared sites, tried to capture "common core" ←
14:09:23 <olyerickson> ... moved work into eGov IG
... moved work into eGov IG ←
14:09:42 <olyerickson> ... Weekly ccalls, input, review of use cases
... Weekly ccalls, input, review of use cases ←
14:09:51 <PhilA2> zakim, how many ports available now?
Phil Archer: zakim, how many ports available now? ←
14:09:51 <Zakim> on Mon Nov 28 09:09:00 2011 I see overbooked, overbooked 30 minutes later, and overbooked 60 minutes later
Zakim IRC Bot: on Mon Nov 28 09:09:00 2011 I see overbooked, overbooked 30 minutes later, and overbooked 60 minutes later ←
14:10:04 <olyerickson> ... Have seen increase in adoption
... Have seen increase in adoption ←
14:10:55 <PhilA2> cygri: Lists several existing users of DCAT (UK, ES etc.)
Richard Cyganiak: Lists several existing users of DCAT (UK, ES etc.) [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:11:12 <PhilA2> ... used by OKFN for federated catalogue etc
Phil Archer: ... used by OKFN for federated catalogue etc ←
14:11:27 <rreck> i can drop and let hadley join
Ronald Reck: i can drop and let hadley join ←
14:11:29 <PhilA2> .. progress on spec hasn't kept pace wtih implementation
Phil Archer: .. progress on spec hasn't kept pace wtih implementation ←
14:11:46 <rreck> im just a lurker
Ronald Reck: im just a lurker ←
14:11:50 <hadleybeeman> Thanks, rreck— but no worries. I can catch up later.
Hadley Beeman: Thanks, rreck— but no worries. I can catch up later. ←
14:12:35 <PhilA2> cygri: As for how stable it is? Since we have given the work to the GLD, it's as stable as this community wants it to be
Richard Cyganiak: As for how stable it is? Since we have given the work to the GLD, it's as stable as this community wants it to be [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:12:47 <PhilA2> ... if it becomes a Rec then it needs to go through the process
Phil Archer: ... if it becomes a Rec then it needs to go through the process ←
14:12:55 <PhilA2> ... open to feedback from the community and so on
Phil Archer: ... open to feedback from the community and so on ←
14:13:31 <PhilA2> ... there would be voices along the way saying that X, Y and Z is missing/shouldn't be there and so on
Phil Archer: ... there would be voices along the way saying that X, Y and Z is missing/shouldn't be there and so on ←
14:13:47 <PhilA2> ... personal speculation - the core of DCAT is nothing new but Dublin Core
Phil Archer: ... personal speculation - the core of DCAT is nothing new but Dublin Core ←
14:13:56 <olyerickson> ... regarding stability, depends on influences at this point (adoption => stable, input => improve it)
... regarding stability, depends on influences at this point (adoption => stable, input => improve it) ←
14:14:03 <PhilA2> ... vast majority of properties from DC, SKOS and FOAF - they are completely stable
Phil Archer: ... vast majority of properties from DC, SKOS and FOAF - they are completely stable ←
14:14:15 <PhilA2> scribe: PhilA2
(Scribe set to Phil Archer)
14:14:29 <PhilA2> cygri: DCAT assembles existing properties and recommends they're used
Richard Cyganiak: DCAT assembles existing properties and recommends they're used ←
14:14:49 <PhilA2> ... DCAT only adds a limited number of fairly simple things beyond these exitsing properties
... DCAT only adds a limited number of fairly simple things beyond these exitsing properties ←
14:14:59 <PhilA2> .. only a few extra ones not found in DC etc.
.. only a few extra ones not found in DC etc. ←
14:15:22 <PhilA2> ... may or may not be relevance to otehr catalogues
... may or may not be relevance to otehr catalogues ←
14:15:33 <olyerickson> ... Handle of additional properties
John Erickson: ... Handful of additional properties ←
14:15:44 <olyerickson> s/Handle/Handful/
14:15:51 <PhilA2> ... catalogue 'Distribution' etc. and a few classes/conectors
... catalogue 'Distribution' etc. and a few classes/conectors ←
14:16:22 <olyerickson> ... Introduces new classes...."no brainer" ... reeeeally straighforward
John Erickson: ... Introduces new classes...."no brainer" ... reeeeally straighforward ←
14:16:33 <PhilA2> ... Catalogue record may be a little less obvious as right
... Catalogue record may be a little less obvious as right ←
14:16:49 <PhilA2> ... but dataset and distribution shouldn't cvhange as you see them everywhere
... but dataset and distribution shouldn't cvhange as you see them everywhere ←
14:16:54 <olyerickson> ... DCAT reflects structure/org seen in most catalogs
John Erickson: ... DCAT reflects structure/org seen in most catalogs ←
14:17:11 <PhilA2> ... has some conventions and bits of vocab to deal with different distributions of the datasets
... has some conventions and bits of vocab to deal with different distributions of the datasets ←
14:17:32 <olyerickson> ... describes not only metadata but also HOW TO ACCESS
John Erickson: ... describes not only metadata but also HOW TO ACCESS ←
14:17:47 <PhilA2> scribe: olyerickson
(Scribe set to John Erickson)
14:17:59 <olyerickson> ... a bit more complicated than it might appear
... a bit more complicated than it might appear ←
14:18:10 <olyerickson> ... are different distributions the same, different?
... are different distributions the same, different? ←
14:18:21 <olyerickson> ... what is a "download?" an "API?" etc
... what is a "download?" an "API?" etc ←
14:18:38 <olyerickson> ... Current DCAT version is a "reasonable" draft of a design
... Current DCAT version is a "reasonable" draft of a design ←
14:18:47 <olyerickson> ... but it can be improved
... but it can be improved ←
14:19:07 <olyerickson> ... e.g. how to classify distributions, what are the properties on a distribution, etc
... e.g. how to classify distributions, what are the properties on a distribution, etc ←
14:19:28 <olyerickson> ... summary: this is cygri's take on where DCAT makes a contribution
... summary: this is cygri's take on where DCAT makes a contribution ←
14:19:51 <olyerickson> ... cygri would like to see: GLD produce a doc that is "in line" with current DCAT docs
... cygri would like to see: GLD produce a doc that is "in line" with current DCAT docs ←
14:20:08 <olyerickson> ... need more than vocab ref, but also an application/implementation guide
... need more than vocab ref, but also an application/implementation guide ←
14:20:32 <olyerickson> ... perhaps use cases/requirements (depends on interpretation of GLD charter)
... perhaps use cases/requirements (depends on interpretation of GLD charter) ←
14:21:05 <olyerickson> ... cygri would like to see vocab ref doc to be produced ASAP
... cygri would like to see vocab ref doc to be produced ASAP ←
14:21:18 <olyerickson> ... need colunteers
... need colunteers ←
14:21:30 <olyerickson> ... cygri would love to, but can't
... cygri would love to, but can't ←
14:21:48 <olyerickson> John Erickson: I can co-edit but not solo-edit
John Erickson: I can co-edit but not solo-edit ←
14:22:38 <olyerickson> ... cygri's perceived identification w/ DCAT might have slowed down progress
... cygri's perceived identification w/ DCAT might have slowed down progress ←
14:23:03 <olyerickson> ... Welcomes others to pick it up and take it through The Process(tm)
... Welcomes others to pick it up and take it through The Process(tm) ←
14:23:08 <fadmaa> I am glad to co-edit as well
Fadi Maali: I am glad to co-edit as well ←
14:23:26 <BenediktKaempgen> q+
Benedikt Kaempgen: q+ ←
14:23:36 <PhilA2> ack BenediktKaempgen
Phil Archer: ack BenediktKaempgen ←
14:23:42 <olyerickson> PhilA: please use Q+ for questions
Phil Archer: please use Q+ for questions ←
14:23:55 <olyerickson> Benedikt: What is the relation between DCAT and Void, etc
Benedikt Kaempgen: What is the relation between DCAT and Void, etc ←
14:24:25 <olyerickson> cygri: TBH, they have different core focii
Richard Cyganiak: TBH, they have different core focii ←
14:24:45 <olyerickson> ... void is metadata for RDF datasets
... void is metadata for RDF datasets ←
14:24:56 <olyerickson> ... DCAT is about any datasets
... DCAT is about any datasets ←
14:25:14 <olyerickson> ... both have been developed independently
... both have been developed independently ←
14:25:35 <olyerickson> ... void cand dcat are different projects, diofferent use cases
... void cand dcat are different projects, different use cases ←
14:26:00 <olyerickson> ... void is about different distribution of a DCAT dataset
... void is about different distribution of a DCAT dataset ←
14:26:23 <olyerickson> ... not sure where the best place is to write this up
... not sure where the best place is to write this up ←
14:26:27 <cygri> q?
Richard Cyganiak: q? ←
14:26:34 <Martín Álvarez> s/diofferent/different
14:27:01 <olyerickson> yes!
yes! ←
14:27:32 <olyerickson> PhilA: Proposes that he and olyerickson work together to get docs into "working draft" format
Phil Archer: Proposes that he and olyerickson work together to get docs into "working draft" format ←
14:27:43 <olyerickson> ... there is a process but
... there is a process but ←
14:28:08 <olyerickson> ... given the existing drafts, there are steps that we should get past fairly quickly
... given the existing drafts, there are steps that we should get past fairly quickly ←
14:28:25 <olyerickson> ... but PhilA might be in cloud cookie land
... but PhilA might be in cloud cookie land ←
14:28:58 <olyerickson> ... given that, a working draft produced ca Xmas, candidate draft not long after
... given that, a working draft produced ca Xmas, candidate draft not long after ←
14:29:29 <olyerickson> ... TWC RPI IOGDS will be aligned with DCATp proposal shortly
... TWC RPI IOGDS will be aligned with DCATp proposal shortly ←
14:29:59 <olyerickson> ... So: candidate recommendation stage not long away...npt a drawn-out process at this point
... So: candidate recommendation stage not long away...npt a drawn-out process at this point ←
14:30:19 <olyerickson> cygri: Big advantage that so much work has already gone into this
Richard Cyganiak: Big advantage that so much work has already gone into this ←
14:30:37 <olyerickson> ... we are not starting from scratch
... we are not starting from scratch ←
14:31:05 <olyerickson> PhilA: Also will serve as a sign of GLD WG progress
Phil Archer: Also will serve as a sign of GLD WG progress ←
14:31:22 <olyerickson> Topic: ADMS
14:31:50 <olyerickson> Introducing Makx Dekkers
Introducing Makx Dekkers ←
14:31:59 <PhilA2> ADMS = Asset Description Metadata Schema
Phil Archer: ADMS = Asset Description Metadata Schema ←
14:32:27 <olyerickson> ... "Interoperability Assets"
... "Interoperability Assets" ←
14:32:34 <PhilA2> Current draft of ADMS is in a PDF at http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/documents/2011-11-15_ADMS_draft_specification.pdf
Phil Archer: Current draft of ADMS is in a PDF at http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/documents/2011-11-15_ADMS_draft_specification.pdf ←
14:32:42 <olyerickson> For background in Makx see: http://makxdekkers.com/
For background in Makx see: http://makxdekkers.com/ ←
14:33:06 <olyerickson> ... DCAT could be an interoperability asset
... DCAT could be an interoperability asset ←
14:33:12 <PhilA2> ADMS designed to describe code lsist, specifications etc. as well as datasets in the DCAT sense
Phil Archer: ADMS designed to describe code lsist, specifications etc. as well as datasets in the DCAT sense ←
14:33:25 <olyerickson> ... ADMS is about finding common way to describe such assets
... ADMS is about finding common way to describe such assets ←
14:33:41 <olyerickson> ... ADMS starts with defining conceptual model
... ADMS starts with defining conceptual model ←
14:33:57 <olyerickson> ... closely follows how DCAT looks at things
... closely follows how DCAT looks at things ←
14:34:16 <olyerickson> ... that's because it's a "no brainer" ;)
... that's because it's a "no brainer" ;) ←
14:34:36 <olyerickson> ... first round: "conceptual model"
... first round: "conceptual model" ←
14:35:03 <olyerickson> ... examining existing vocabs, "picking and chosing" properties and relationships
... examining existing vocabs, "picking and chosing" properties and relationships ←
14:35:24 <olyerickson> ... challenge: implementing as both RDF vocab and XML schema (ugh...)
... challenge: implementing as both RDF vocab and XML schema (ugh...) ←
14:35:28 <PhilA2> me, Makx and Andrea Perego of JRC (cf. INSPIRE) already looking at using DCAT as basis for ADMS classes and properties
Phil Archer: me, Makx and Andrea Perego of JRC (cf. INSPIRE) already looking at using DCAT as basis for ADMS classes and properties ←
14:35:52 <olyerickson> ... classes, entities, properties, relationships
... classes, entities, properties, relationships ←
14:36:17 <olyerickson> ... Second part of document: identifying controlled vocabs that require agreement
... Second part of document: identifying controlled vocabs that require agreement ←
14:36:25 <olyerickson> ... e.g. asset types
... e.g. asset types ←
14:36:32 <olyerickson> ... files formats
... files formats ←
14:36:34 <olyerickson> ... status
... status ←
14:36:37 <olyerickson> ... etc
... etc ←
14:37:19 <olyerickson> ... ADMS provides model with classes that is consistent with DCAT... trying to not invent new vocab terms
... ADMS provides model with classes that is consistent with DCAT... trying to not invent new vocab terms ←
14:37:52 <olyerickson> ... trying to create bettwe way of linking information provided in one env. with info in another
... trying to create bettwe way of linking information provided in one env. with info in another ←
14:38:04 <olyerickson> ... agressive timeline (next week!)
... agressive timeline (next week!) ←
14:38:35 <olyerickson> ... reminder: this is the first stagge; WG draft next week, published for public comment early next week
... reminder: this is the first stagge; WG draft next week, published for public comment early next week ←
14:38:39 <olyerickson> (year)
(year) ←
14:39:04 <olyerickson> ... after pilot phase, expected to re-visit
... after pilot phase, expected to re-visit ←
14:39:27 <olyerickson> ... looking to align ADMS work with DCAT work (existing and moving forward)
... looking to align ADMS work with DCAT work (existing and moving forward) ←
14:39:45 <olyerickson> PhilA: ADMS provides another example of implementation
Phil Archer: ADMS provides another example of implementation ←
14:40:08 <olyerickson> ... EU will say, "when you publish pub. information, you *will* use ADMS"
... EU will say, "when you publish pub. information, you *will* use ADMS" ←
14:40:25 <olyerickson> ... everything is headed in the right direction
... everything is headed in the right direction ←
14:40:35 <olyerickson> ... thus far, no resistance to using DCAT
... thus far, no resistance to using DCAT ←
14:40:50 <olyerickson> ... so far, no bias against DCAT
... so far, no bias against DCAT ←
14:41:05 <olyerickson> ... Looks like more evidence that DCAT is useful et all
... Looks like more evidence that DCAT is useful et all ←
14:41:21 <olyerickson> @PhilA my pleasure ;)
@PhilA my pleasure ;) ←
14:41:46 <olyerickson> PhilA: ADMS timeline is agressive but will help move things along
Phil Archer: ADMS timeline is agressive but will help move things along ←
14:42:02 <olyerickson> ... W3C publishing moratorium
... W3C publishing moratorium ←
14:42:22 <olyerickson> q+
q+ ←
14:42:31 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.
zakim, unmute me. ←
14:42:31 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted ←
14:42:32 <PhilA2> ack olyerickson
Phil Archer: ack olyerickson ←
14:42:42 <PhilA2> olyerickson: Extremely exciting
John Erickson: Extremely exciting [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:43:25 <PhilA2> olyerickson: Glad that work should help with W3C process
John Erickson: Glad that work should help with W3C process [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:43:49 <PhilA2> olyerickson: some concern over speed, getting unfinished business into DCAT
John Erickson: some concern over speed, getting unfinished business into DCAT [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:43:59 <atemezin> @Olyerickson:--it is difficult to follow you on the phone...
Ghislain Atemezing: @Olyerickson:--it is difficult to follow you on the phone... ←
14:44:05 <PhilA2> ... getting some of the things that should logically be with DCAT
Phil Archer: ... getting some of the things that should logically be with DCAT ←
14:44:17 <olyerickson> sorry
sorry ←
14:44:32 <Zakim> - +90700006aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: - +90700006aacc ←
14:44:40 <cygri> q+
Richard Cyganiak: q+ ←
14:44:47 <PhilA2> olyerickson: concerned about getting last minyute changes into DCAT
John Erickson: concerned about getting last minyute changes into DCAT [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:44:57 <PhilA2> ... don'think it's much of a prob but is Primary concern
Phil Archer: ... don'think it's much of a prob but is Primary concern ←
14:45:07 <PhilA2> ... things like dct:language
Phil Archer: ... things like dct:language ←
14:45:10 <PhilA2> ack cygri
Phil Archer: ack cygri ←
14:45:14 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.
zakim, mute me. ←
14:45:14 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should now be muted ←
14:45:26 <PhilA2> cygri: responding to John
Richard Cyganiak: responding to John [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:45:33 <Zakim> + +34.00.0.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +34.00.0.aadd ←
14:45:46 <olyerickson> cygri: given the timeline, focus the 1sr working draft on what's already there
Richard Cyganiak: given the timeline, focus the 1sr working draft on what's already there ←
14:45:55 <olyerickson> ... don't get into changing things
... don't get into changing things ←
14:45:56 <PhilA2> ... given the time line, might make sense FPWD focus on what's already there without too much work on what might change in future
Phil Archer: ... given the time line, might make sense FPWD focus on what's already there without too much work on what might change in future ←
14:46:02 <olyerickson> ... olyerickson: makes sense!
... olyerickson: makes sense! ←
14:46:15 <PhilA2> cygri: if there's only 2-3 weeks then that might be all that we can do
Richard Cyganiak: if there's only 2-3 weeks then that might be all that we can do [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ] ←
14:46:17 <PhilA2> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
14:46:22 <olyerickson> ... cygri: simply getting it into W3C style will be enough of a challenge
... cygri: simply getting it into W3C style will be enough of a challenge ←
14:46:38 <olyerickson> ... also, remember it is the 1st public working draft
... also, remember it is the 1st public working draft ←
14:46:51 <olyerickson> ... no time for additions/modifications
... no time for additions/modifications ←
14:47:06 <olyerickson> ... then it will go through the W3C "machine:
... then it will go through the W3C "machine: ←
14:47:19 <olyerickson> ... as it draws attention, it will get feedback
... as it draws attention, it will get feedback ←
14:47:29 <PhilA2> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
14:47:30 <olyerickson> ... purpose is to but a flag in the ground
... purpose is to but a flag in the ground ←
14:47:36 <olyerickson> +1 to that, thanks!
+1 to that, thanks! ←
14:48:01 <olyerickson> PhilA: In no way will ADMS or other work shortcut the W3C process
Phil Archer: In no way will ADMS or other work shortcut the W3C process ←
14:48:27 <olyerickson> ... *if* we are inundated with feedback, we will still follow the W3C process
... *if* we are inundated with feedback, we will still follow the W3C process ←
14:49:05 <olyerickson> ... ADMS needs an "indication" of what's coming, doesn't require/depend on that
... ADMS needs an "indication" of what's coming, doesn't require/depend on that ←
14:49:12 <olyerickson> +1 PhilA thanks
+1 PhilA thanks ←
14:49:35 <olyerickson> PhilA: Summary: ADMS not trying to replace etc DCAT. more about support
Phil Archer: Summary: ADMS not trying to replace etc DCAT. more about support ←
14:50:14 <olyerickson> PhilA: Do the people on phone need calls?
Phil Archer: Do the people on phone need calls? ←
14:50:46 <olyerickson> cygri: not sure if dedicated calls needed
Richard Cyganiak: not sure if dedicated calls needed ←
14:50:52 <olyerickson> ... sees the advantages
... sees the advantages ←
14:51:18 <olyerickson> ... but still some searching in main GLD call
... but still some searching in main GLD call ←
14:51:29 <olyerickson> ... at the moment, overload GLD call
... at the moment, overload GLD call ←
14:51:44 <olyerickson> +1 to using GLD call bandwidth for this untilw e get kicked out
+1 to using GLD call bandwidth for this untilw e get kicked out ←
14:52:19 <BenediktKaempgen> q+
Benedikt Kaempgen: q+ ←
14:52:25 <olyerickson> ... also concerned about DCAT work being taken out of GLD
... also concerned about DCAT work being taken out of GLD ←
14:52:31 <PhilA2> ack BenediktKaempgen
Phil Archer: ack BenediktKaempgen ←
14:53:20 <cygri> cygri: no very strong opinion either way
Richard Cyganiak: no very strong opinion either way [ Scribe Assist by Richard Cyganiak ] ←
14:53:34 <olyerickson> BenediktKaempgen: Could have DCAT work discussed in task forces we expect to break out of GLD
Benedikt Kaempgen: Could have DCAT work discussed in task forces we expect to break out of GLD ←
14:53:59 <olyerickson> ... there will be community directory, standard vocabs, etc
... there will be community directory, standard vocabs, etc ←
14:54:18 <olyerickson> PhilA: Hearing a concensus (I agree with what they said BTW)
Phil Archer: Hearing a concensus (I agree with what they said BTW) ←
14:54:54 <atemezin> +1 to what @Benedikt said..
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to what @Benedikt said.. ←
14:54:54 <olyerickson> ... of the Chairs feel the weekly calls are being overloaded, then it would be sensible to take them into separate calls
... of the Chairs feel the weekly calls are being overloaded, then it would be sensible to take them into separate calls ←
14:55:02 <olyerickson> @PhilA nope
@PhilA nope ←
14:55:30 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.
zakim, unmute me. ←
14:55:30 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: olyerickson should no longer be muted ←
14:56:07 <olyerickson> ACTION: PhilA and olyerickson to begin work on community draft
ACTION: PhilA and olyerickson to begin work on community draft ←
14:56:07 <trackbot> Created ACTION-24 - And olyerickson to begin work on community draft [on Phil Archer - due 2011-12-05].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-24 - And olyerickson to begin work on community draft [on Phil Archer - due 2011-12-05]. ←
14:56:56 <olyerickson> PhilA, can you ro9ll up the minutes?
PhilA, can you ro9ll up the minutes? ←
14:57:05 <olyerickson> thanks!
thanks! ←
14:57:10 <atemezin> thanks!!
Ghislain Atemezing: thanks!! ←
14:57:15 <Zakim> - +34.00.0.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: - +34.00.0.aadd ←
14:57:16 <rreck> bye
Ronald Reck: bye ←
14:57:16 <Zakim> -PhilA2
Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA2 ←
14:57:17 <Zakim> -raphael
Zakim IRC Bot: -raphael ←
14:57:19 <Zakim> -cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri ←
14:57:20 <Zakim> - +26006aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: - +26006aabb ←
14:57:20 <Zakim> -Martín Álvarez
Zakim IRC Bot: -Martín Álvarez ←
14:57:22 <BenediktKaempgen> thanks
Benedikt Kaempgen: thanks ←
14:57:22 <Zakim> -olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson ←
14:57:25 <Zakim> -rreck
Zakim IRC Bot: -rreck ←
14:57:31 <PhilA2> rrsagent, make logs public
Phil Archer: rrsagent, make logs public ←
14:57:57 <Zakim> -GeraldSteeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -GeraldSteeman ←
14:58:37 <PhilA2> meeting: GLD Ad-hoc meeting to discuss vocabularies, esp. DCAT
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