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GLD-WG telecon 27 October 2011

Minutes of 27 October 2011

Agenda
http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.10.27#Agenda
Seen
Bart van Leeuwen, Benedikt Kaempgen, Bernadette Hyland, Biplav Srivastava, Boris Villazón-Terrazas, Christophe Gueret, Cory Casanave, Dan Gillman, Gerald Steeman, Ghislain Atemezing, Martín Álvarez, Michael Pendleton, Phil Archer, Richard Cyganiak, Ronald Reck, Simon Wall, Tina Gheen, Tope Omitola, Yigal Arens
Chair
Bernadette Hyland
Scribe
Gerald Steeman
IRC Log
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Resolutions

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13:52:24 <Zakim> +Gerald_

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13:53:13 <GeraldSteeman> Meeting: GLD-WG telecon 27 October 2011
13:53:27 <Zakim> +TinaGheen

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13:53:41 <GeraldSteeman> Chair: Bernadette Hyland
13:54:05 <GeraldSteeman> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.10.27
13:54:19 <Zakim> +david

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13:54:45 <GeraldSteeman> Scribe: Gerald Steeman

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13:55:25 <GeraldSteeman> ScribeNick: GeraldSteeman
13:56:43 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

13:56:43 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, david

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, david

13:57:03 <bhyland> zakim, david is me

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, david is me

13:57:03 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bhyland; got it

13:58:04 <GeraldSteeman> Zakim, who is here

Zakim, who is here

13:58:04 <Zakim> GeraldSteeman, you need to end that query with '?'

Zakim IRC Bot: GeraldSteeman, you need to end that query with '?'

13:58:18 <GeraldSteeman> Zakim, who is here?

Zakim, who is here?

13:58:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, bhyland

13:58:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see martin, tinagheen, RRSAgent, GeraldSteeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, danbri, cgueret_work, Zakim, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see martin, tinagheen, RRSAgent, GeraldSteeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, danbri, cgueret_work, Zakim, trackbot, sandro

13:58:22 <Zakim> +??P9

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9

13:58:53 <BartvanLeeuwen> zakim ??p9 is me

Bart van Leeuwen: zakim ??p9 is me

13:59:15 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p9 is me

Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p9 is me

13:59:15 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

13:59:25 <BartvanLeeuwen> ah now it works

Bart van Leeuwen: ah now it works

13:59:38 <boris> zakim, code?

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, code?

13:59:38 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), boris

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), boris

14:00:21 <Zakim> +boris

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14:00:45 <Zakim> +??P15

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15

14:00:55 <PhilA2> zakim, ??P15 is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ??P15 is me

14:00:55 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it

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14:00:58 <Zakim> +mhausenblas

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14:00:59 <Zakim> +??P16

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P16

14:01:06 <Zakim> +Cory

Zakim IRC Bot: +Cory

14:01:07 <cygri> zakim, mhausenblas is temporarily me

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, mhausenblas is temporarily me

14:01:08 <Zakim> +cygri; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it

14:01:37 <Zakim> + +1.202.691.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.691.aaaa

14:01:58 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.566.aabb

14:02:08 <cygri> zakim, who is here?

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, who is here?

14:02:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, boris, PhilA2, cygri, ??P16, Cory, +1.202.691.aaaa, +1.202.566.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, boris, PhilA2, cygri, ??P16, Cory, +1.202.691.aaaa, +1.202.566.aabb

14:02:10 <Zakim> On IRC I see Cory, cygri, PhilA2, boris, BenediktKaempgen, martin, tinagheen, RRSAgent, GeraldSteeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, danbri, cgueret_work, Zakim, trackbot,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Cory, cygri, PhilA2, boris, BenediktKaempgen, martin, tinagheen, RRSAgent, GeraldSteeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, danbri, cgueret_work, Zakim, trackbot,

14:02:13 <Zakim> ... sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... sandro

14:03:17 <bhyland> zakim, who is here?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is here?

14:03:17 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, boris, PhilA2, cygri, ??P16, Cory, +1.202.691.aaaa, +1.202.566.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, boris, PhilA2, cygri, ??P16, Cory, +1.202.691.aaaa, +1.202.566.aabb

14:03:19 <Zakim> On IRC I see simonWall, Yigal, Mike, Cory, cygri, PhilA2, boris, BenediktKaempgen, tinagheen, RRSAgent, GeraldSteeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, danbri, cgueret_work, Zakim,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see simonWall, Yigal, Mike, Cory, cygri, PhilA2, boris, BenediktKaempgen, tinagheen, RRSAgent, GeraldSteeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, danbri, cgueret_work, Zakim,

14:03:22 <Zakim> ... trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot, sandro

14:03:59 <Zakim> +??P27

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27

14:04:08 <bhyland> zakim, aaaa is Dan Gillman

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aaaa is Dan Gillman

14:04:08 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaaa is Dan Gillman', bhyland

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'aaaa is Dan Gillman', bhyland

14:04:15 <cygri> zakim, aaaa is DanGillman

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, aaaa is DanGillman

14:04:15 <Zakim> +DanGillman; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +DanGillman; got it

14:04:19 <Yigal> zakim, ??P27 is me

Yigal Arens: zakim, ??P27 is me

14:04:19 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal; got it

14:04:33 <cgueret_home> hi there!

Christophe Gueret: hi there!

14:04:47 <GeraldSteeman> zakim, aabb is Mike

zakim, aabb is Mike

14:04:47 <Zakim> +Mike; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Mike; got it

14:04:49 <Zakim> +??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1

14:04:51 <bhyland> zakim, who is here?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is here?

14:04:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, boris, PhilA2, cygri, ??P16, Cory, DanGillman, Mike, Yigal, ??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, boris, PhilA2, cygri, ??P16, Cory, DanGillman, Mike, Yigal, ??P1

14:04:53 <rreck> is there some incantation to have zakim SIP you?

Ronald Reck: is there some incantation to have zakim SIP you?

14:04:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see martin, rreck, cgueret_home, simonWall, Yigal, Mike, Cory, cygri, PhilA2, boris, BenediktKaempgen, tinagheen, RRSAgent, GeraldSteeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see martin, rreck, cgueret_home, simonWall, Yigal, Mike, Cory, cygri, PhilA2, boris, BenediktKaempgen, tinagheen, RRSAgent, GeraldSteeman, MacTed, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland,

14:04:55 <Zakim> ... danbri, cgueret_work, Zakim, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... danbri, cgueret_work, Zakim, trackbot, sandro

14:05:11 <cygri> zakim, ??P27 is simonWall

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, ??P27 is simonWall

14:05:19 <Cory> Aakim, aaa is DanG

Cory Casanave: Aakim, aaa is DanG

14:05:21 <Zakim> I already had ??P27 as Yigal, cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P27 as Yigal, cygri

14:05:24 <Zakim> +??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3

14:05:35 <Cory> Zakim, aaaa is DanG

Cory Casanave: Zakim, aaaa is DanG

14:05:36 <Zakim> sorry, Cory, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Cory, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'

14:05:45 <martin> zakim, ??p3 is me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??p3 is me

14:05:45 <Zakim> +martin; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +martin; got it

14:05:56 <martin> zakim, mute me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, mute me

14:05:56 <Zakim> martin should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: martin should now be muted

14:05:59 <cygri> zakim, DanGillman is DanG

Richard Cyganiak: zakim, DanGillman is DanG

14:06:00 <Zakim> +DanG; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +DanG; got it

14:06:22 <PhilA> Hadley is on her way to California for TPAC

Phil Archer: Hadley is on her way to California for TPAC

14:06:58 <Zakim> +??P32

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P32

14:07:24 <GeraldSteeman> TOPIC: Chair is staring meeting

1. Chair is staring meeting

14:07:25 <BenediktKaempgen> BenediktKaempgen is connected through Skype

Benedikt Kaempgen: BenediktKaempgen is connected through Skype

14:07:34 <cygri> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.10.27#Agenda
14:08:22 <Zakim> + +1.218.296.aacc

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14:08:32 <Zakim> +biplav

Zakim IRC Bot: +biplav

14:08:51 <rreck> zakim,  +1.218.296.aacc is me

Ronald Reck: zakim, +1.218.296.aacc is me

14:08:52 <Zakim> +rreck; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +rreck; got it

14:09:13 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+

Bart van Leeuwen: q+

14:09:58 <Cory> Agenda item - update on OMG GovDTF and Information Sharing

Cory Casanave: Agenda item - update on OMG GovDTF and Information Sharing

14:10:15 <bhyland> Topic: Recap on SEMIC.EU from PhilA

2. Recap on SEMIC.EU from PhilA

14:10:44 <GeraldSteeman> PhilA: Vocabs on persons and business.

Phil Archer: Vocabs on persons and business.

14:10:55 <bhyland> PhilA: Focusing on business & core persons.  Vocabs already exist, e.g., FOAF.  On address side, INSPIRE Directive is doing interesting work.

Phil Archer: Focusing on business & core persons. Vocabs already exist, e.g., FOAF. On address side, INSPIRE Directive is doing interesting work. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:11:09 <GeraldSteeman> ... not trying to reinvite and will work with existing schemas

... not trying to reinvite and will work with existing schemas

14:11:33 <GeraldSteeman> ...T-pack small but successful

...TPAC small but successful

14:11:52 <GeraldSteeman> ...hope to get interaction

...hope to get interaction

14:12:11 <bhyland> Topic: TPAC registration for eGov is lower than would have liked.

3. TPAC registration for eGov is lower than would have liked.

14:12:11 <GeraldSteeman> Bhyland: MS and Google to be there.

Bernadette Hyland: MS and Google to be there.

14:12:21 <PhilA> s/T-pack/TPAC
14:13:27 <tinagheen> +1 minutes

Tina Gheen: +1 minutes

14:13:29 <cgueret_home> +1

Christophe Gueret: +1

14:13:33 <BenediktKaempgen> +1

Benedikt Kaempgen: +1

14:13:36 <atemezin> +1

Ghislain Atemezing: +1

14:13:50 <GeraldSteeman> Accept minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.10.13

Accept minutes: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.10.13

14:13:58 <GeraldSteeman> Minutes accepted

Minutes accepted

14:14:10 <bhyland> Review of Tracker, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/

Bernadette Hyland: Review of Tracker, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/

14:15:16 <atemezin> is there any open issue?

Ghislain Atemezing: is there any open issue?

14:15:31 <GeraldSteeman> Action-12 closed

ACTION-12 closed

14:15:31 <trackbot> ACTION-12 Archer to request member-only list closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-12 Archer to request member-only list closed

14:15:43 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

14:15:44 <BenediktKaempgen> +1

Benedikt Kaempgen: +1

14:15:46 <Biplav> Yes

Biplav Srivastava: Yes

14:15:46 <Yigal> I do

Yigal Arens: I do

14:15:47 <simonWall> +1

Simon Wall: +1

14:15:48 <Mike> +1

Michael Pendleton: +1

14:15:53 <martin> +1

Martín Álvarez: +1

14:16:21 <GeraldSteeman> Bhyland: Data Camp well done

Bernadette Hyland: Data Camp well done

14:16:48 <GeraldSteeman> ...interesting venue for camp

...interesting venue for camp

14:17:31 <GeraldSteeman> ...Keynote speakers very high caliber <names?> in Open Gov

...Keynote speakers very high caliber <names?> in Open Gov

14:17:55 <GeraldSteeman> ...centered transparency

...centered transparency

14:18:43 <GeraldSteeman> ...will blog on the camp.  Link to come leter

...will blog on the camp. Link to come leter

14:19:26 <GeraldSteeman> ...theme of blockers and supporters ran through the camp

...theme of blockers and supporters ran through the camp

14:19:30 <atemezin> do we have some feedbacks after @bhyland presentation?

Ghislain Atemezing: do we have some feedbacks after @bhyland presentation?

14:20:39 <bhyland> Ellen Miller from the Sunlight Foundation spoke about the 5 year old, non-profit which is the "grand daddy of the online open government movement."  The foundation takes direction from Justice Louis Brandeis' philosophy that "Sunlight is said to be the best disinfectant."  Open government data dvocates and entrepreneurs included Tom Steinberg who described the power of proving simple information that benefits civic society.  Tom shined some sunlight on wastefu

Bernadette Hyland: Ellen Miller from the Sunlight Foundation spoke about the 5 year old, non-profit which is the "grand daddy of the online open government movement." The foundation takes direction from Justice Louis Brandeis' philosophy that "Sunlight is said to be the best disinfectant." Open government data dvocates and entrepreneurs included Tom Steinberg who described the power of proving simple information that benefits civic society. Tom shined some sunlight on wastefu

14:20:41 <GeraldSteeman> bhyland: Open Gov/data to improve lives

Bernadette Hyland: Open Gov/data to improve lives

14:20:49 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:20:54 <rreck> the US does not explicitly charge for data, we implicitly pay for it (and probably too much). Explicit pay for data might direct it to be better aligned with needs

Ronald Reck: the US does not explicitly charge for data, we implicitly pay for it (and probably too much). Explicit pay for data might direct it to be better aligned with needs

14:22:30 <GeraldSteeman> bhyland: In US academics and smaller institutions not really present in research; Europe has more funding to those communities.

Bernadette Hyland: In US academics and smaller institutions not really present in research; Europe has more funding to those communities.

14:23:08 <GeraldSteeman> ...upshot - lots of smaller contributors.

...upshot - lots of smaller contributors.

14:23:48 <GeraldSteeman> ...would like to see more promotion / help those on the inside of govt.

...would like to see more promotion / help those on the inside of govt.

14:24:11 <PhilA> zakim, who's making noise?

Phil Archer: zakim, who's making noise?

14:24:12 <bhyland> zakim who is speaking?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim who is speaking?

14:24:21 <Zakim> PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (19%), Cory (5%), [IPcaller] (25%)

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (19%), Cory (5%), [IPcaller] (25%)

14:24:49 <PhilA> zakim, mute IPcaller

Phil Archer: zakim, mute IPcaller

14:24:49 <Zakim> [IPcaller] should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: [IPcaller] should now be muted

14:25:09 <GeraldSteeman> ...people were not looking to data.gov for guidance

...people were not looking to data.gov for guidance

14:25:51 <GeraldSteeman> ...would like to show leadership in the community

...would like to show leadership in the community

14:26:17 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:26:20 <GeraldSteeman> ...showed the community directory in two sessions.

...showed the community directory in two sessions.

14:26:29 <PhilA> ack bar

Phil Archer: ack bar

14:26:38 <BartvanLeeuwen> q-

Bart van Leeuwen: q-

14:26:52 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

14:26:52 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, boris, PhilA2, cygri, ??P16, Cory, DanG, Mike, Yigal, simonWall, martin (muted), ??P32, rreck, biplav, [IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, boris, PhilA2, cygri, ??P16, Cory, DanG, Mike, Yigal, simonWall, martin (muted), ??P32, rreck, biplav, [IPcaller]

14:26:56 <Zakim> ... (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: ... (muted)

14:27:06 <GeraldSteeman> Phil: outreach is important.  Egov Interest Group trying it as well.

Phil Archer: outreach is important. Egov Interest Group trying it as well.

14:27:12 <Biplav> q+

Biplav Srivastava: q+

14:27:17 <GeraldSteeman> ...all comes done to individuals.

...all comes done to individuals.

14:27:39 <GeraldSteeman> down nor done

down nor done

14:28:16 <GeraldSteeman> Phil: target market is so scattered and you have to find them

Phil Archer: target market is so scattered and you have to find them

14:28:27 <bhyland> PhilA: There are individuals who serve as catalysts.  YOu have find those key people, some are on the call, some are in the eGov IG.  We have to plug away and be very public.

Phil Archer: There are individuals who serve as catalysts. YOu have find those key people, some are on the call, some are in the eGov IG. We have to plug away and be very public. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:28:42 <GeraldSteeman> ...keep plugging away and perhaps find smaller events.

...keep plugging away and perhaps find smaller events.

14:28:58 <PhilA> GovCamp wiki http://govcamp.org/index.php/Main_Page

Phil Archer: GovCamp wiki http://govcamp.org/index.php/Main_Page

14:29:29 <GeraldSteeman> Bhyland: GeoSpatial camp was held in June.  We should share what is going on at local levels.

Bernadette Hyland: GeoSpatial camp was held in June. We should share what is going on at local levels.

14:29:40 <simonWall> q+

Simon Wall: q+

14:29:56 <bhyland> PhilA: GovCamp Program has the most traction.

Phil Archer: GovCamp Program has the most traction. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:30:14 <GeraldSteeman> ...guidance and not sales at these events.

...guidance and not sales at these events.

14:30:40 <atemezin> we are planning to organise such a local event here in France...

Ghislain Atemezing: we are planning to organise such a local event here in France...

14:30:51 <GeraldSteeman> PhilA: Went to one at MS office; very good.

Phil Archer: Went to one at MS office; very good.

14:31:23 <bhyland> PhilA: UK Gov't new tech officer showed up to local UK GovCamp event who everyone wanted to know.

Phil Archer: UK Gov't new tech officer showed up to local UK GovCamp event who everyone wanted to know. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:31:33 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:32:20 <bhyland> Biplav: How is the Asian "data.gov.xx movement" going?

Biplav Srivastava: How is the Asian "data.gov.xx movement" going? [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:32:25 <GeraldSteeman> Biplasv: What is the opinion of Asia in Open Gov/Data?

Scribe problem: the name 'Biplasv' does not match any of the 56 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila David Hau David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Elena Montiel Ponsoda Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yigal Arens Zachary Whitley Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Biplasv: What is the opinion of Asia in Open Gov/Data?

14:33:04 <GeraldSteeman> PhilA: I met a contact for the region.

Phil Archer: I met a contact for the region.

14:33:42 <PhilA> Somnath Chandra of Department of Information Technology, Government of India is in the eGov IG

Phil Archer: Somnath Chandra of Department of Information Technology, Government of India is in the eGov IG

14:33:58 <GeraldSteeman> bhyland: Datagov (US) may have contacts with India.

Bernadette Hyland: Datagov (US) may have contacts with India.

14:34:00 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

14:34:26 <bhyland> ack Biplav

Bernadette Hyland: ack Biplav

14:34:29 <GeraldSteeman> ...Other sources with Africa.

...Other sources with Africa.

14:34:47 <atemezin> here at ISWC, they presented us a chinees initiative

Ghislain Atemezing: here at ISWC, they presented us a chinees initiative

14:35:03 <atemezin> s/chineese/chinees

Ghislain Atemezing: s/chineese/chinees (warning: replacement failed)

14:35:18 <bhyland> SimonWall: Australia had its first GovCamp event recently.

Simon Wall: Australia had its first GovCamp event recently. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:35:36 <GeraldSteeman> Simon: FirstGov Camp.  Challege getting people aware of event.

Simon Wall: FirstGov Camp. Challege getting people aware of event.

14:35:54 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

14:36:00 <GeraldSteeman> ...agree with individual contacts comments.

...agree with individual contacts comments.

14:36:10 <PhilA> q+

Phil Archer: q+

14:36:14 <cgueret_home> +1 to publicize the directory

Christophe Gueret: +1 to publicize the directory

14:36:44 <PhilA> ack simo

Phil Archer: ack simo

14:36:54 <atemezin> who's speaking?

Ghislain Atemezing: who's speaking?

14:37:02 <bhyland> SimonWall: Open Data movement didn't know the GovCamp event in Canberra was happening… what can we do to improve communication of these events?

Simon Wall: Open Data movement didn't know the GovCamp event in Canberra was happening… what can we do to improve communication of these events? [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:37:08 <cygri> http://datos.fundacionctic.org/sandbox/catalog/faceted/

Richard Cyganiak: http://datos.fundacionctic.org/sandbox/catalog/faceted/

14:37:09 <bhyland> cygri is speaking now

Bernadette Hyland: cygri is speaking now

14:37:19 <PhilA> ack cy

Phil Archer: ack cy

14:37:33 <cygri> ack me

Richard Cyganiak: ack me

14:37:39 <GeraldSteeman> Richard: There is a map (linked) may be a good starting point.

Richard Cyganiak: There is a map (linked) may be a good starting point.

14:37:53 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:37:55 <PhilA> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

14:38:33 <bhyland> PhilA: Follows local people who are involved in open gov communities using Twitter.

Phil Archer: Follows local people who are involved in open gov communities using Twitter. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:38:39 <GeraldSteeman> PhilA: Something that work is Twitter.  I follow local community.  One method.

Phil Archer: Something that work is Twitter. I follow local community. One method.

14:38:51 <Cory> +1 for beer

Cory Casanave: +1 for beer

14:39:00 <cgueret_home> beer evening doesn't work in Netherlands

Christophe Gueret: beer evening doesn't work in Netherlands

14:39:01 <simonWall> q+

Simon Wall: q+

14:39:02 <cgueret_home> :(

Christophe Gueret: :(

14:39:08 <GeraldSteeman> ... casual events (i.e beer) can work well too.

... casual events (i.e beer) can work well too.

14:40:16 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+

Bart van Leeuwen: q+

14:40:20 <GeraldSteeman> bhyland: <name> gave advice on putting on a hackathon.

Bernadette Hyland: David Eaves gave advice on putting on a hackathon.

14:40:42 <BenediktKaempgen> BenediktKaempgen has to run. ISWC closing.

Benedikt Kaempgen: BenediktKaempgen has to run. ISWC closing.

14:40:53 <Zakim> -??P32

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P32

14:40:55 <GeraldSteeman> ...we are 5 months in the WG.  There is a void on getting information / help to those on the inside.

...we are 5 months in the WG. There is a void on getting information / help to those on the inside.

14:41:14 <PhilA> s/<name>/David Eaves/
14:41:43 <GeraldSteeman> ...govt individuals tend to want to get information published and available to public.

...govt individuals tend to want to get information published and available to public.

14:42:14 <GeraldSteeman> ...we need to expand our community and fill the void.

...we need to expand our community and fill the void.

14:42:21 <PhilA> It's really important

Phil Archer: It's really important

14:42:22 <Zakim> -rreck

Zakim IRC Bot: -rreck

14:42:24 <Mike> +1

Michael Pendleton: +1

14:42:29 <PhilA> ack simo

Phil Archer: ack simo

14:42:47 <bhyland> RE: Local organization of events, Check David Eaves wiki on opendataday.org

Ronald Reck: Local organization of events, Check David Eaves wiki on opendataday.org [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:43:58 <GeraldSteeman> byland: Suggest organizing local hackathons.

Scribe problem: the name 'byland' does not match any of the 56 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila David Hau David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Elena Montiel Ponsoda Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yigal Arens Zachary Whitley Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown byland: Suggest organizing local hackathons.

14:44:11 <PhilA> ack BartvanLeeuwen

Phil Archer: ack BartvanLeeuwen

14:44:13 <Cory> q+

Cory Casanave: q+

14:44:55 <bhyland> BartvanLeeuwen: Netherlands have a group called "Hack the Government" they are the open gov't data people, sponsor many events around open data (not necessarily Linked Data).

Bart van Leeuwen: Netherlands have a group called "Hack the Government" they are the open gov't data people, sponsor many events around open data (not necessarily Linked Data). [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:45:19 <GeraldSteeman> Bart: NL has a group called Hack the Govt.  They work to assist in getting information to public.

Bart van Leeuwen: NL has a group called Hack the Govt. They work to assist in getting information to public.

14:45:27 <bhyland> Bart: This Netherlands group is no longer allowed to call their events "hack" a thons

Bart van Leeuwen: This Netherlands group is no longer allowed to call their events "hack" a thons [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:45:32 <GeraldSteeman> ...getting more min stream.

...getting more min stream.

14:46:11 <cgueret_home> :)

Christophe Gueret: :)

14:46:18 <GeraldSteeman> ...a contro name may be a good way to start.

...a contro name may be a good way to start.

14:46:30 <bhyland> I met Drs Imke Vrijling, Policy Advisor in Ministry of the Interior and Kingdom Relations

Bernadette Hyland: I met Drs Imke Vrijling, Policy Advisor in Ministry of the Interior and Kingdom Relations

14:46:35 <bhyland> in the Netherlands.

Bernadette Hyland: in the Netherlands.

14:46:48 <bhyland> Bart: Discussed attending government events & help them.

Bart van Leeuwen: Discussed attending government events & help them. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:47:04 <GeraldSteeman> ...we should find ways to promote GLD within other groups.

...we should find ways to promote GLD within other groups.

14:47:17 <cgueret_home> +1 for attending hackatons and speak about the group!

Christophe Gueret: +1 for attending hackatons and speak about the group!

14:47:28 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

14:47:50 <simonWall> +1

Simon Wall: +1

14:48:07 <bhyland> 26-Nov-2011 Hack-a-thon event in Netherlands.

Bernadette Hyland: 26-Nov-2011 Hack-a-thon event in Netherlands.

14:48:10 <cgueret_home> yup I'm here

Christophe Gueret: yup I'm here

14:48:12 <GeraldSteeman> Bart: 26 Nov there with be Hack the Govt.  May try to speak there.

Bart van Leeuwen: 26 Nov there with be Hack the Govt. May try to speak there.

14:48:24 <cgueret_home> q+

Christophe Gueret: q+

14:48:43 <PhilA> ack Cory

Phil Archer: ack Cory

14:48:55 <atemezin> who is here'

Ghislain Atemezing: who is here'

14:49:17 <atemezin> who is speaking?

Ghislain Atemezing: who is speaking?

14:49:36 <bhyland> Cory: with his OMG hat on …  there was a meeting recently. We're engaged in UML profile for NIEM.

Cory Casanave: with his OMG hat on … there was a meeting recently. We're engaged in UML profile for NIEM. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:49:43 <GeraldSteeman> Cory: There was a meeting Information Sharing monday.   Currenty engaged in UML profile.  One ingredient.

Cory Casanave: There was a meeting Information Sharing monday. Currenty engaged in UML profile. One ingredient.

14:49:58 <cygri> q-

Richard Cyganiak: q-

14:50:08 <cgueret_home> q-

Christophe Gueret: q-

14:50:19 <GeraldSteeman> ...Need standards for info sharing equation

...Need standards for info sharing equation

14:51:28 <GeraldSteeman> ...Looking to make this international

...Looking to make this international

14:51:48 <GeraldSteeman> bhyland: Please share background info.

Bernadette Hyland: Please share background info.

14:52:41 <PhilA> The member mailing list is now active

Phil Archer: The member mailing list is now active

14:53:14 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

14:53:19 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

14:53:20 <GeraldSteeman> bhyland: DERI meeting.  Who will be able to make it?  Chime in.

Bernadette Hyland: DERI meeting. Who will be able to make it? Chime in.

14:53:20 <tinagheen> I won't be able to travel

Tina Gheen: I won't be able to travel

14:53:22 <Cory> Don't have budget for such travel

Cory Casanave: Don't have budget for such travel

14:53:26 <Mike> we will not have travel funding

Michael Pendleton: we will not have travel funding

14:53:31 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

14:53:33 <GeraldSteeman> likely not

likely not

14:53:33 <Yigal> Still haven't decided

Yigal Arens: Still haven't decided

14:53:39 <Biplav> q+

Biplav Srivastava: q+

14:53:43 <bhyland> Topic: Attendance at F2F in Galway Ireland

4. Attendance at F2F in Galway Ireland

14:53:46 <PhilA> Hard to be sure but I'm hopeful of being there

Phil Archer: Hard to be sure but I'm hopeful of being there

14:53:48 <martin> I will try to be there

Martín Álvarez: I will try to be there

14:53:49 <tobo> 50 / 50 too

Tope Omitola: 50 / 50 too

14:53:52 <GeraldSteeman> Simon: 50/50

Simon Wall: 50/50

14:54:02 <martin> zakim, unmute me

Martín Álvarez: zakim, unmute me

14:54:02 <Zakim> martin should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: martin should no longer be muted

14:54:02 <boris> martin alvarez

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: martin alvarez

14:54:08 <cgueret_home> Christophe: say, 70/30

Christophe Gueret: say, 70/30 [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

14:54:11 <bhyland> Simon: 50/50%

Simon Wall: 50/50% [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:54:15 <martin> thanks, Boris

Martín Álvarez: thanks, Boris

14:54:33 <GeraldSteeman> Richard: Report on RDF F2F.

Richard Cyganiak: Report on RDF F2F.

14:54:35 <Biplav> What happens if some people do not make it?

Biplav Srivastava: What happens if some people do not make it?

14:55:16 <GeraldSteeman> ...End up in Europe or US.  And the attendance is swayed on way or the other.

...End up in Europe or US. And the attendance is swayed on way or the other.

14:55:36 <bhyland> Cygri: RE: RDF F2F, usually held in Europe or US, tendency to alternate. In the latest F2F held last month, we scheduled it for Boston area but also had common European meeting place in UK.

Richard Cyganiak: RE: RDF F2F, usually held in Europe or US, tendency to alternate. In the latest F2F held last month, we scheduled it for Boston area but also had common European meeting place in UK. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:56:31 <GeraldSteeman> ...RDF had parallel meeting US and UK locations.  It work fairly well to sync up.

...RDF had parallel meeting US and UK locations. It work fairly well to sync up.

14:56:34 <bhyland> Cygri: They had almost two F2F's happening in parallel in two locations, across the Atlantic.  Had video hookup. Acknowledge that it will be hard to get travel for everyone to come to one place.

Richard Cyganiak: They had almost two F2F's happening in parallel in two locations, across the Atlantic. Had video hookup. Acknowledge that it will be hard to get travel for everyone to come to one place. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

14:56:58 <bhyland> zakim, who is on call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on call?

14:56:59 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, bhyland.

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand your question, bhyland.

14:57:09 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?

Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call?

14:57:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, boris, PhilA2, cygri, ??P16, Cory, DanG, Mike, Yigal, simonWall, martin, biplav, [IPcaller] (muted)

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Gerald_, TinaGheen, bhyland, BartvanLeeuwen, boris, PhilA2, cygri, ??P16, Cory, DanG, Mike, Yigal, simonWall, martin, biplav, [IPcaller] (muted)

14:57:35 <GeraldSteeman> ...Perhaps there could be a east coast US 2nd location.

...Perhaps there could be a east coast US 2nd location.

14:58:40 <GeraldSteeman> bhyland: Will send out a poll and get working on logistics.

Bernadette Hyland: Will send out a poll and get working on logistics.

14:59:43 <simonWall> q+

Simon Wall: q+

14:59:53 <GeraldSteeman> Bhyland: time zone are still a challenge.

Bernadette Hyland: time zone are still a challenge.

15:00:09 <cygri> +1 to canberra!

Richard Cyganiak: +1 to canberra!

15:00:53 <simonWall> q-

Simon Wall: q-

15:00:54 <GeraldSteeman> bhyland: please submit agenda items.

Bernadette Hyland: please submit agenda items.

15:00:58 <cygri> ack me

Richard Cyganiak: ack me

15:01:34 <PhilA> q+ to remind bhyland about time zone issues for next week

Phil Archer: q+ to remind bhyland about time zone issues for next week

15:02:04 <PhilA> ack Biplav

Phil Archer: ack Biplav

15:02:04 <simonWall> Bernadette is right - no problem for me finding useful meetings in Eruope or US, problem is getting there in the first place

Simon Wall: Bernadette is right - no problem for me finding useful meetings in Eruope or US, problem is getting there in the first place

15:02:53 <cygri> q+

Richard Cyganiak: q+

15:03:18 <GeraldSteeman> Biplav: Would like to learn more about the F2F.

Biplav Srivastava: Would like to learn more about the F2F.

15:03:30 <bhyland> Gerald: NASA is involved in organizing seminar around scientific analysis & reporting.  Having their bi-monthly meeting and Bernadette will be speaking on W3C GLD, other speakers will be talking about data sets starting with 1 star Linked Data moving up the data chain.

Gerald Steeman: NASA is involved in organizing seminar around scientific analysis & reporting. Having their bi-monthly meeting and Bernadette will be speaking on W3C GLD, other speakers will be talking about data sets starting with 1 star Linked Data moving up the data chain. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:03:57 <bhyland> The talk is on November 3rd so I will not be here next week.

Bernadette Hyland: The talk is on November 3rd so I will not be here next week.

15:04:38 <bhyland> Biplav: Budget will always be a concern. Remote participation to be arranged.

Biplav Srivastava: Budget will always be a concern. Remote participation to be arranged. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:04:58 <bhyland> Cygri: Remote participation is OK, not optimal, but better than nothing (Bern paraphrasing).

Richard Cyganiak: Remote participation is OK, not optimal, but better than nothing (Bern paraphrasing). [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:05:03 <GeraldSteeman> cygri: Will be opportunty to dial in.  Not as nice as in person

Richard Cyganiak: Will be opportunty to dial in. Not as nice as in person

15:05:11 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

15:05:32 <bhyland> Announcement: W3C TPAC next week 31-Oct to 4-Nov 2011.

Scribe problem: the name 'Announcement' does not match any of the 56 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Aitor Moreno Anne Washington Asunción Gómez Pérez Bart van Leeuwen Bede McCall Benedikt Kaempgen Bernadette Hyland Biplav Srivastava Boris Villazón-Terrazas Chris Musialek Christophe Gueret Cory Casanave Dan Gillman Daniel Mekonnen Daniel Vila David Hau David Smith David Price Dean Allemang Elena Montiel Ponsoda Fadi Maali George Thomas Gerald Steeman Ghislain Atemezing Hadley Beeman Irene Polikoff John Goodwin John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jonathan Gray Jorge Gracia Luis Bermudez Lyle Burgoon Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martin Kaltenböck Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Michael Pendleton Mohamed ZERGAOUI Phil Archer Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Ronald Reck Sandro Hawke Sarven Capadisli Simon Wall Stasinos Konstantopoulos Tina Gheen Tope Omitola William Brafford Yigal Arens Zachary Whitley Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Announcement: W3C TPAC next week 31-Oct to 4-Nov 2011. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

15:05:32 <bhyland> 	•	https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2011/registrants#css.

Bernadette Hyland: • https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2011/registrants#css.

15:05:32 <bhyland> 	•	Jeanne Holme and Phil Archer will be running sessions on eGov IG 31-Oct to 1-Nov 2011. http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/F2F4, remote participation by GLD WG members is encouraged.

Bernadette Hyland: • Jeanne Holme and Phil Archer will be running sessions on eGov IG 31-Oct to 1-Nov 2011. http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/F2F4, remote participation by GLD WG members is encouraged.

15:05:54 <GeraldSteeman> Mind daylight savings!

Mind daylight savings!

15:06:14 <simonWall> Looking forward to everyone coming off of summer time

Simon Wall: Looking forward to everyone coming off of summer time

15:06:27 <PhilA> Jeanne put the agenda together but I'm there in Sandro's absence

Phil Archer: Jeanne put the agenda together but I'm there in Sandro's absence

15:06:30 <simonWall> 2am here

Simon Wall: 2am here

15:06:48 <BartvanLeeuwen> bye

Bart van Leeuwen: bye

15:06:49 <GeraldSteeman> Closing meeting

Closing meeting

15:06:49 <Zakim> -PhilA2

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA2

15:06:50 <Zakim> -Mike

Zakim IRC Bot: -Mike

15:06:50 <Zakim> -DanG

Zakim IRC Bot: -DanG

15:06:50 <cgueret_home> bye

Christophe Gueret: bye

15:06:51 <Zakim> -Yigal

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yigal

15:06:52 <Zakim> -Cory

Zakim IRC Bot: -Cory

15:06:52 <bhyland> Meeting adjourned.

Bernadette Hyland: Meeting adjourned.

15:06:54 <Zakim> -??P16

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P16

15:07:00 <Zakim> -boris

Zakim IRC Bot: -boris

15:07:04 <Zakim> -martin

Zakim IRC Bot: -martin

15:07:07 <Zakim> -cygri

Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri

15:07:17 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller]

15:07:43 <bhyland> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible

Bernadette Hyland: RRSAgent, set logs world-visible

15:07:47 <Zakim> -TinaGheen

Zakim IRC Bot: -TinaGheen

15:07:50 <Zakim> -biplav

Zakim IRC Bot: -biplav

15:08:02 <bhyland> RRSAgent, generate minutes

Bernadette Hyland: RRSAgent, generate minutes

15:08:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/27-gld-minutes.html bhyland

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