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Government Linked Data Working Group

Minutes of 28 July 2011

Present
Bernadette Hyland, Ghislain Atemezing, Michael Hausenblas, Sandro Hawke, William Brafford, John Erickson, Tope Omitola, John Sheridan, Benedikt Kaempgen, Gerald Steeman, Boris Villazón-Terrazas, George Thomas, Cory Casanave, David Price
Guests
Tina Gheen (NSF/LoC), David Smith (EPA), Bart van Leeuwen (Fire Dept Amsterdam), Hadley Beeman (LinkedGov), Zachary Whitley (JHU), Yigal Arens (ISI)
Scribe
Ghislain Atemezing
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Accept the minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21 link
  2. The Linked Data Cookbook be on a WG wiki now, but keep the option to move to non-WG wiki after the life of the WG to allow it to evolve over time. link
  3. Create a wiki page for discussion/background on topics related to the Deliverables. link
  4. Create a wiki page for discussion/background on topics related to the Deliverable related to Geo spec/standards/methodologies link
Topics
<sandro> present: bern, gatemezi, mhaus, sandro, brafford, erickson, tobo, sheridan, bk, gerald, boris, george, cory, price
<sandro> guest: Tina Gheen, NSF/LoC
<sandro> guest: David (DruidSmith) Smith, EPA
<sandro> guest: Bart (Simpson) van Leeuwen, Fire Dept Amsterdam
<sandro> guest: Hadley Beeman, LinkedGov
<sandro> guest: Zachary Whitley, JHU
<sandro> guest: Yigal Arens, ISI
09:56:00 <ZacharyWhitley> Zakim, who is here?

Zachary Whitley: Zakim, who is here?

09:56:00 <Zakim> sorry, ZacharyWhitley, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, ZacharyWhitley, I don't know what conference this is

09:56:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot

09:57:00 <mhausenblas> Zakim, this will be GLD

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, this will be GLD

09:57:00 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, mhausenblas, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started

09:57:00 <Zakim> + +49.721.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.721.aadd

09:58:00 <Zakim> +mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas

09:58:00 <bkaempgen> zakim, who's here?

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here?

09:58:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.240.228.aaaa, +1.540.898.aabb, +1.443.708.aacc, +49.721.aadd, mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.240.228.aaaa, +1.540.898.aabb, +1.443.708.aacc, +49.721.aadd, mhausenblas

09:58:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot

09:58:00 <Zakim> + +1.540.645.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.540.645.aaee

09:58:00 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.566.aaff

09:58:00 <wbrafford> Zakim, aacc is wbrafford

William Brafford: Zakim, aacc is wbrafford

09:58:00 <bkaempgen> zakim, aadd is bkaempgen

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, aadd is bkaempgen

09:58:00 <Zakim> +wbrafford; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +wbrafford; got it

09:58:00 <Zakim> +bkaempgen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bkaempgen; got it

09:59:00 <TGheen> Zakim, aaee is me

Tina Gheen: Zakim, aaee is me

09:59:00 <Zakim> +TGheen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +TGheen; got it

09:59:00 <bkaempgen> nick bkaempgen is Benedikt Kämpgen

Benedikt Kaempgen: nick bkaempgen is Benedikt Kämpgen

09:59:00 <boris> zakim, boris with mhausenblas

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, boris with mhausenblas

09:59:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'boris with mhausenblas', boris

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'boris with mhausenblas', boris

09:59:00 <boris> zakim, boris is with mhausenblas

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, boris is with mhausenblas

09:59:00 <Zakim> +boris; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +boris; got it

10:00:00 <Zakim> + +1.202.690.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.690.aagg

10:00:00 <ZacharyWhitley> Zakim, who's here?

Zachary Whitley: Zakim, who's here?

10:00:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.240.228.aaaa, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, +1.202.690.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.240.228.aaaa, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, +1.202.690.aagg

10:00:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

10:00:00 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2001.07.28

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2001.07.28

10:00:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see gatemezi, boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see gatemezi, boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot

10:00:00 <gatemezi> rrsagent, make records public

Ghislain Atemezing: rrsagent, make records public

10:00:00 <George> Zakim, aagg is George

George Thomas: Zakim, aagg is George

10:00:00 <Zakim> +George; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +George; got it

10:01:00 <Zakim> +Cory

Zakim IRC Bot: +Cory

10:01:00 <ZacharyWhitley> Zakim, +1.240.228.aaaa is ZacharyWhitley

Zachary Whitley: Zakim, +1.240.228.aaaa is ZacharyWhitley

10:01:00 <Zakim> +ZacharyWhitley; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ZacharyWhitley; got it

10:01:00 <Zakim> +??P24

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P24

10:02:00 <Zakim> + +1.518.276.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.518.276.aahh

10:03:00 <Zakim> -??P24

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P24

10:03:00 <gatemezi> Hi everyone..

Ghislain Atemezing: Hi everyone..

10:04:00 <gatemezi> Have some problem to invite rrsagent

Ghislain Atemezing: Have some problem to invite rrsagent

10:04:00 <Zakim> +??P37

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P37

10:04:00 <bkaempgen> zakim, who's here?

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here?

10:04:00 <Zakim> + +1.440.389.aaii

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.440.389.aaii

10:04:00 <bhyland> To help remind people of people's names/faces, see http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=47663&public=1

Bernadette Hyland: To help remind people of people's names/faces, see http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=47663&public=1

10:04:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, Cory, +1.518.276.aahh, ??P37, +1.440.389.aaii

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, Cory, +1.518.276.aahh, ??P37, +1.440.389.aaii

10:04:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

10:04:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see HadleyBeeman, Yigal, Mike, Simpson_2, gatemezi, boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see HadleyBeeman, Yigal, Mike, Simpson_2, gatemezi, boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro,

10:04:00 <Simpson_2> did the passcode change ?

Bart van Leeuwen: did the passcode change ?

10:04:00 <Zakim> ... trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot

10:04:00 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, +1.440.389.aaii is hadleybeeman

Hadley Beeman: zakim, +1.440.389.aaii is hadleybeeman

10:04:00 <Zakim> +hadleybeeman; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +hadleybeeman; got it

10:04:00 <Yigal> zakim, ??P37 is Yigal

Yigal Arens: zakim, ??P37 is Yigal

10:04:00 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal; got it

10:05:00 <Simpson_2> thx

Bart van Leeuwen: thx

10:05:00 <Simpson_2> strange

Bart van Leeuwen: strange

10:06:00 <Zakim> +??P40

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P40

10:06:00 <Zakim> + +1.617.489.aajj

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.489.aajj

10:06:00 <Simpson_2> Zakim, ??p40 is me

Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p40 is me

10:06:00 <Zakim> +Simpson_2; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Simpson_2; got it

10:07:00 <bhyland> Ghislain, please confirm you are scribing?

Bernadette Hyland: Ghislain, please confirm you are scribing?

10:07:00 <Zakim> + +1.757.604.aakk

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.757.604.aakk

10:07:00 <gatemezi> scribe: gatemezi

(Scribe set to Ghislain Atemezing)

10:08:00 <gatemezi> nick gatemezi is Ghislain Atemezing

nick gatemezi is Ghislain Atemezing

10:08:00 <gatemezi> could we begin now?

could we begin now?

10:08:00 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here?

10:08:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, Cory, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, Cory, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2,

10:08:00 <Zakim> ... +1.617.489.aajj, +1.757.604.aakk

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.617.489.aajj, +1.757.604.aakk

10:09:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

10:09:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see cygri, cory-c, olyerickson, HadleyBeeman, Yigal, Mike, Simpson_2, gatemezi, boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see cygri, cory-c, olyerickson, HadleyBeeman, Yigal, Mike, Simpson_2, gatemezi, boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland,

10:09:00 <Zakim> ... ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot

10:09:00 <ZacharyWhitley> We could probably use the EPA data in conjunction with some work on homeland security at APL.

Zachary Whitley: We could probably use the EPA data in conjunction with some work on homeland security at APL.

10:10:00 <gatemezi> topic: Announcements

1. Announcements

10:10:00 <cory-c> zakin, Cory is cory-c

Cory Casanave: zakin, Cory is cory-c

10:11:00 <bhyland> Minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21

Bernadette Hyland: Minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21

10:11:00 <cory-c> zakim, Coary is cory-c

Cory Casanave: zakim, Coary is cory-c

10:11:00 <Zakim> sorry, cory-c, I do not recognize a party named 'Coary'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, cory-c, I do not recognize a party named 'Coary'

10:11:00 <sandro> PROPOSED: Accept http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21 as minutes of last week.

PROPOSED: Accept http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21 as minutes of last week.

10:11:00 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21

PROPOSED: Accept the minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21

10:11:00 <sandro> :-)

Sandro Hawke: :-)

10:11:00 <cory-c> Zakin, Cory is cory-c

Cory Casanave: Zakin, Cory is cory-c

10:11:00 <cory-c> Cory can't type today

Cory Casanave: Cory can't type today

10:11:00 <mhausenblas> +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1

10:11:00 <George> +1

George Thomas: +1

10:11:00 <sandro> RESOLVED: Accept the minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21

RESOLVED: Accept the minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21

10:12:00 <mhausenblas> q+ to ask re issue tracker

Michael Hausenblas: q+ to ask re issue tracker

10:12:00 <gatemezi> If resolved, next topic then?

If resolved, next topic then?

10:12:00 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

10:12:00 <cory-c> zakim, Cory is cory-c

Cory Casanave: zakim, Cory is cory-c

10:12:00 <Zakim> +cory-c; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cory-c; got it

10:14:00 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aall

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.566.aall

10:14:00 <gatemezi> zakim, who is on the phone?

zakim, who is on the phone?

10:14:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, cory-c, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, cory-c, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2,

10:14:00 <Zakim> ... +1.617.489.aajj, +1.757.604.aakk, +1.202.566.aall

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.617.489.aajj, +1.757.604.aakk, +1.202.566.aall

10:14:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

10:14:00 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

10:14:00 <mhausenblas> ack me

Michael Hausenblas: ack me

10:14:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to ask re issue tracker

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas, you wanted to ask re issue tracker

10:15:00 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/

Michael Hausenblas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/

10:16:00 <gatemezi> mhausenblas: is it announcement?

Michael Hausenblas: is it announcement?

10:16:00 <gatemezi> ...or something else?

...or something else?

10:17:00 <sandro> q?

Sandro Hawke: q?

10:17:00 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-1?

Michael Hausenblas: ISSUE-1?

10:17:00 <trackbot> ISSUE-1 -- Where should the BP cookbook go? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-1 -- Where should the BP cookbook go? -- open

10:17:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/1

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/1

10:18:00 <Zakim> +??P50

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P50

10:19:00 <gatemezi> It seems there is no announcements... we move then to the second point of the agenda?

It seems there is no announcements... we move then to the second point of the agenda?

10:20:00 <gatemezi> zakim, who is on the phone?

zakim, who is on the phone?

10:20:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, cory-c, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, cory-c, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2,

10:20:00 <Zakim> ... +1.617.489.aajj, +1.757.604.aakk, +1.202.566.aall, ??P50

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.617.489.aajj, +1.757.604.aakk, +1.202.566.aall, ??P50

10:20:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

10:21:00 <wbrafford> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Questionnaire

William Brafford: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Questionnaire

10:21:00 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1_Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary#Information_Collected.2FDisplayed

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1_Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary#Information_Collected.2FDisplayed

10:21:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

10:24:00 <ZacharyWhitley> +1

Zachary Whitley: +1

10:24:00 <gatemezi> wbrafford: which type of technology will we manage to gather these data?

William Brafford: which type of technology will we manage to gather these data?

10:24:00 <DruidSmith> Zakim, .aall is me

David Smith: Zakim, .aall is me

10:24:00 <Zakim> sorry, DruidSmith, I do not recognize a party named '.aall'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, DruidSmith, I do not recognize a party named '.aall'

10:24:00 <bhyland> q- ZacharyWhitley

Bernadette Hyland: q- ZacharyWhitley

10:24:00 <DruidSmith> Zakim, aall is me

David Smith: Zakim, aall is me

10:24:00 <Zakim> +DruidSmith; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +DruidSmith; got it

10:25:00 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

10:25:00 <cory-c> I see no reason not to allow posting of information when it is available, people don't like to call vendors : )

Cory Casanave: I see no reason not to allow posting of information when it is available, people don't like to call vendors : )

10:25:00 <gatemezi> cory-c: alternative name ?

Cory Casanave: alternative name ?

10:26:00 <Yigal> q+

Yigal Arens: q+

10:26:00 <cory-c> gatemezi, cory-c is Cory Casanave, Model Driven Solutions

Cory Casanave: gatemezi, cory-c is Cory Casanave, Model Driven Solutions

10:27:00 <olyerickson> q+

John Erickson: q+

10:27:00 <mhausenblas> ack HadleyBeeman

Michael Hausenblas: ack HadleyBeeman

10:27:00 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: int'l law and culture will affect this privacy/publicity question

Hadley Beeman: int'l law and culture will affect this privacy/publicity question [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ]

10:28:00 <bhyland> Hadley: Due to legal & cultural differences, vendors/consultants may or may not be able or willing to put deployments info on the W3C Community Directory

Hadley Beeman: Due to legal & cultural differences, vendors/consultants may or may not be able or willing to put deployments info on the W3C Community Directory [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:28:00 <dpe> David Price, TopQuadrant on zakim and irc

David Price: David Price, TopQuadrant on zakim and irc

10:29:00 <bhyland> Yigal: We should be driven by the purpose of the Community Directory.  I thought it was to help organizations get started and therefore having deployments detailed would be helpful.

Yigal Arens: We should be driven by the purpose of the Community Directory. I thought it was to help organizations get started and therefore having deployments detailed would be helpful. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:29:00 <sandro> I agree with Yigal -- a big point of CD is for folks to learn from each other -- so there is value even if there are only a few entries -- it doesn't need to be complete.

Sandro Hawke: I agree with Yigal -- a big point of CD is for folks to learn from each other -- so there is value even if there are only a few entries -- it doesn't need to be complete.

10:29:00 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to Yigal

Hadley Beeman: +1 to Yigal

10:29:00 <wbrafford> +1 to Yigal

William Brafford: +1 to Yigal

10:29:00 <cory-c> +1 Yigal

Cory Casanave: +1 Yigal

10:30:00 <bhyland> +1 Yigal and Olyerickson

Bernadette Hyland: +1 Yigal and Olyerickson

10:30:00 <ZacharyWhitley> are we debating providing links to vendors or posting the content directly to the directory?

Zachary Whitley: are we debating providing links to vendors or posting the content directly to the directory?

10:30:00 <cory-c> q+

Cory Casanave: q+

10:30:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

10:30:00 <George> +1 Cory, Sandro, Yigal, John

George Thomas: +1 Cory, Sandro, Yigal, John

10:30:00 <bhyland> q- Yigal

Bernadette Hyland: q- Yigal

10:30:00 <sandro> ZacharyWhitley, I think we're debating whether to even ask questions that lots of folks can't/wont answer.

Sandro Hawke: ZacharyWhitley, I think we're debating whether to even ask questions that lots of folks can't/wont answer.

10:30:00 <olyerickson> q-

John Erickson: q-

10:30:00 <bhyland> q- olyerickson

Bernadette Hyland: q- olyerickson

10:30:00 <bhyland> q- cory-c

Bernadette Hyland: q- cory-c

10:32:00 <bhyland> Topic: Best Practices Discussion

2. Best Practices Discussion

10:33:00 <mhausenblas> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/78852cca9f1a/bp/index.html

Michael Hausenblas: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/78852cca9f1a/bp/index.html

10:33:00 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+

10:33:00 <Zakim> +??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1

10:33:00 <gatemezi> mhausenblas: thanks for this draft

Michael Hausenblas: thanks for this draft

10:34:00 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking?

10:34:00 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: mhausenblas (45%), +1.202.566.aaff (74%)

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: mhausenblas (45%), +1.202.566.aaff (74%)

10:34:00 <sandro> zakim, mute aaff

Sandro Hawke: zakim, mute aaff

10:34:00 <Zakim> +1.202.566.aaff should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: +1.202.566.aaff should now be muted

10:35:00 <sandro> (the connection +1.202.566.aaff was causing echo, so I muted it.   sorry if that's you!)

Sandro Hawke: (the connection +1.202.566.aaff was causing echo, so I muted it. sorry if that's you!)

10:36:00 <tobo> Hello from tobo

Tope Omitola: Hello from tobo

10:36:00 <bhyland> Mhausenblas: Discussed options for getting input on the Best Practices spec.  One option is get contributors to add to wiki.  Then Editors would be responsible for putting it into the editors draft.

Michael Hausenblas: Discussed options for getting input on the Best Practices spec. One option is get contributors to add to wiki. Then Editors would be responsible for putting it into the editors draft. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:37:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

10:37:00 <gatemezi> I have also put two other links here http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary#2.2.3_URI_Construction

I have also put two other links here http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary#2.2.3_URI_Construction

10:37:00 <gatemezi> Hope will be helpful

Hope will be helpful

10:37:00 <bhyland> Sandro: Two solutions for editing, either ReSpec or the wiki.  Initially he thought this group would be better suited using the wiki.

Sandro Hawke: Two solutions for editing, either ReSpec or the wiki. Initially he thought this group would be better suited using the wiki. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:38:00 <bhyland> Mhausenblas: There will be a day when we have to publish the first Working Draft.

Michael Hausenblas: There will be a day when we have to publish the first Working Draft. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:38:00 <bhyland> q+

Bernadette Hyland: q+

10:40:00 <johnlsheridan> I think the wiki is the best bet (agree with Sandro)

John Sheridan: I think the wiki is the best bet (agree with Sandro)

10:40:00 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to Bernadette that the wiki is an easy to do group work.  Less versioning, less confusion.

Hadley Beeman: +1 to Bernadette that the wiki is an easy to do group work. Less versioning, less confusion.

10:40:00 <HadleyBeeman> an easy place

Hadley Beeman: an easy place

10:41:00 <bhyland> To be clear, I think mhausenblas and I (bhyland) are suggesting that we use wiki, but that the editors pull the info over into ReSpec using Mercurial.

Bernadette Hyland: To be clear, I think mhausenblas and I (bhyland) are suggesting that we use wiki, but that the editors pull the info over into ReSpec using Mercurial.

10:42:00 <gatemezi> +1 for Bernadette & mhausenblas proposal

+1 for Bernadette & mhausenblas proposal

10:42:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

10:42:00 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q-

10:42:00 <olyerickson> I support either method (hg or wiki) ... as long as additions can be reverted, either is fine

John Erickson: I support either method (hg or wiki) ... as long as additions can be reverted, either is fine

10:43:00 <bhyland> q- sandro, bhyland

Bernadette Hyland: q- sandro, bhyland

10:45:00 <olyerickson> +1 to Cookbook being "living" (evolving) document; wiki is a great approach; lives beyond GLD WG activity

John Erickson: +1 to Cookbook being "living" (evolving) document; wiki is a great approach; lives beyond GLD WG activity

10:45:00 <HadleyBeeman> Strong support to keep the cookbook as a live document; we're learning (collectively) loads all the time.  It would be a shame for it to become stale because we couldn't incorporate new progress.

Hadley Beeman: Strong support to keep the cookbook as a live document; we're learning (collectively) loads all the time. It would be a shame for it to become stale because we couldn't incorporate new progress.

10:46:00 <mhausenblas> +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1

10:46:00 <gatemezi> +1

+1

10:46:00 <Simpson_2> +1 for keeping it a live doc

Bart van Leeuwen: +1 for keeping it a live doc

10:46:00 <bhyland> Proposed: The Linked Data Cookbook be on a WG wiki now, but keep the option to move to non-WG wiki after the life of the WG to allow it to evolve over time.

PROPOSED: The Linked Data Cookbook be on a WG wiki now, but keep the option to move to non-WG wiki after the life of the WG to allow it to evolve over time.

10:47:00 <boris> r u writing the proposal?

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: r u writing the proposal?

10:47:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

10:47:00 <George> +1

George Thomas: +1

10:47:00 <mhausenblas> +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1

10:47:00 <gatemezi> I think it could be approved?

I think it could be approved?

10:48:00 <johnlsheridan> I should own up to knowing some things about procurement...

John Sheridan: I should own up to knowing some things about procurement...

10:48:00 <sandro> RESOLVED: The Linked Data Cookbook be on a WG wiki now, but keep the option to move to non-WG wiki after the life of the WG to allow it to evolve over time.

RESOLVED: The Linked Data Cookbook be on a WG wiki now, but keep the option to move to non-WG wiki after the life of the WG to allow it to evolve over time.

10:48:00 <HadleyBeeman> I can help with stability

Hadley Beeman: I can help with stability

10:48:00 <olyerickson> What is "stability" in this contxt

John Erickson: What is "stability" in this contxt

10:48:00 <gatemezi> thanks, Sandro

thanks, Sandro

10:48:00 <bhyland> Topic: Vocabulary, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

3. Vocabulary, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

10:49:00 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro

10:49:00 <Zakim> - +1.617.489.aajj

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.617.489.aajj

10:49:00 <DruidSmith> +q

David Smith: +q

10:50:00 <olyerickson> I should be added to "Standard Vocabs" list of people...

John Erickson: I should be added to "Standard Vocabs" list of people...

10:50:00 <bhyland> Noted olyerickson.

Bernadette Hyland: Noted olyerickson.

10:50:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

10:51:00 <Simpson_2> +q

Bart van Leeuwen: +q

10:51:00 <bhyland> @olyerickson, do you want to put down a topic or area you are interested in supporting under Vocabularies please?

Bernadette Hyland: @olyerickson, do you want to put down a topic or area you are interested in supporting under Vocabularies please?

10:52:00 <DruidSmith> -q

David Smith: -q

10:52:00 <bkaempgen> q+

Benedikt Kaempgen: q+

10:52:00 <olyerickson> "LOL"

John Erickson: "LOL"

10:53:00 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q?

10:53:00 <Simpson_2> +q

Bart van Leeuwen: +q

10:54:00 <bhyland> bkaempgen asked how to give feedback on the wiki page on Vocabulary Discussion.  He is interested in Cube Vocab but wants to give feedback on others too.

Bernadette Hyland: bkaempgen asked how to give feedback on the wiki page on Vocabulary Discussion. He is interested in Cube Vocab but wants to give feedback on others too.

10:54:00 <olyerickson> q+

John Erickson: q+

10:54:00 <olyerickson> +1 to "create a (comment) page and link to it..."

John Erickson: +1 to "create a (comment) page and link to it..."

10:55:00 <bhyland> +1 to creating comment page linked from wiki if you have a lot of comments.

Bernadette Hyland: +1 to creating comment page linked from wiki if you have a lot of comments.

10:55:00 <mhausenblas> Michael: maybe NL should implement INSPIRE? :)

Michael Hausenblas: maybe NL should implement INSPIRE? :) [ Scribe Assist by Michael Hausenblas ]

10:56:00 <George> the wiki has a 'discussion' tab for topics/articles/pages

George Thomas: the wiki has a 'discussion' tab for topics/articles/pages

10:56:00 <mhausenblas> q+

Michael Hausenblas: q+

10:56:00 <boris> q+

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: q+

10:56:00 <gatemezi> George: you are right..

George Thomas: you are right..

10:56:00 <bkaempgen> q-

Benedikt Kaempgen: q-

10:56:00 <bhyland> Bart: In EU, you have a lot of local gov't organizations who would have different encoding processes/methodologies/standards.

Bart van Leeuwen: In EU, you have a lot of local gov't organizations who would have different encoding processes/methodologies/standards. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:57:00 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+

10:57:00 <DruidSmith> If this is referring to NL-specific coordinate systems, there is a registry of spatial reference systems at the European Petroleum Survey Group which has most of the world's spatial reference systems

David Smith: If this is referring to NL-specific coordinate systems, there is a registry of spatial reference systems at the European Petroleum Survey Group which has most of the world's spatial reference systems

10:57:00 <bhyland> Bart: How do we capture regional specific ways of capturing information, it isn't the data that is specific, but how it is described by the region that unique.

Bart van Leeuwen: How do we capture regional specific ways of capturing information, it isn't the data that is specific, but how it is described by the region that unique. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

10:58:00 <DruidSmith> http://www.epsg.org/ - EPSG is a recognized international standard for specifying coordinate systems within spatial databases, also there are WKT (Well Known Text) representations

David Smith: http://www.epsg.org/ - EPSG is a recognized international standard for specifying coordinate systems within spatial databases, also there are WKT (Well Known Text) representations

10:59:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

10:59:00 <bhyland> q- simpson

Bernadette Hyland: q- simpson

10:59:00 <bhyland> q- erickson

Bernadette Hyland: q- erickson

10:59:00 <mhausenblas> ack olyerickson

Michael Hausenblas: ack olyerickson

10:59:00 <ZacharyWhitley> this sould be contained within the geosparql spec

Zachary Whitley: this sould be contained within the geosparql spec

11:00:00 <bhyland> Resolved: Create a wiki page for discussion/background on topics related to the Deliverables.

RESOLVED: Create a wiki page for discussion/background on topics related to the Deliverables.

11:00:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

11:00:00 <mhausenblas> ack mhausenblas

Michael Hausenblas: ack mhausenblas

11:01:00 <bhyland> mhausenblas: Do discussions via mailing list.  Write structured, agreed to parts on the wiki.

Michael Hausenblas: Do discussions via mailing list. Write structured, agreed to parts on the wiki. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ]

11:01:00 <gatemezi> RESOLVED: Create a wiki page for discussion/background on topics related to the Deliverable related to Geo spec/standards/methodologies

RESOLVED: Create a wiki page for discussion/background on topics related to the Deliverable related to Geo spec/standards/methodologies

11:01:00 <bhyland> +1 to mhausenblas approach for iteration

Bernadette Hyland: +1 to mhausenblas approach for iteration

11:01:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

11:02:00 <mhausenblas> ack boris

Michael Hausenblas: ack boris

11:02:00 <gatemezi> Do we have time to move to the 4th point?

Do we have time to move to the 4th point?

11:02:00 <bhyland> who is speaking now?

Bernadette Hyland: who is speaking now?

11:02:00 <Zakim> -TGheen

Zakim IRC Bot: -TGheen

11:02:00 <mhausenblas> http://data.semanticweb.org/person/asuncion-gomez-perez

Michael Hausenblas: http://data.semanticweb.org/person/asuncion-gomez-perez

11:03:00 <boris> thanks michael

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: thanks michael

11:03:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q?

11:04:00 <gatemezi> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Zakim, who is on the phone?

11:04:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, +1.202.566.aaff (muted), George, cory-c, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, +1.202.566.aaff (muted), George, cory-c, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2,

11:04:00 <Zakim> ... +1.757.604.aakk, DruidSmith, ??P50, ??P1, Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.757.604.aakk, DruidSmith, ??P50, ??P1, Sandro

11:04:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

11:04:00 <mhausenblas> Zakim, list participants

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, list participants

11:04:00 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.540.898.aabb, +1.443.708.aacc, +49.721.aadd, mhausenblas, +1.540.645.aaee, +1.202.566.aaff, wbrafford, bkaempgen, TGheen, boris,

Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been +1.540.898.aabb, +1.443.708.aacc, +49.721.aadd, mhausenblas, +1.540.645.aaee, +1.202.566.aaff, wbrafford, bkaempgen, TGheen, boris,

11:04:00 <Zakim> ... +1.202.690.aagg, George, ZacharyWhitley, +1.518.276.aahh, hadleybeeman, Yigal, +1.617.489.aajj, Simpson_2, +1.757.604.aakk, cory-c, +1.202.566.aall, DruidSmith, Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.202.690.aagg, George, ZacharyWhitley, +1.518.276.aahh, hadleybeeman, Yigal, +1.617.489.aajj, Simpson_2, +1.757.604.aakk, cory-c, +1.202.566.aall, DruidSmith, Sandro

11:05:00 <Simpson_2> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

11:05:00 <johnlsheridan> Bye

John Sheridan: Bye

11:05:00 <Simpson_2> thx bye

Bart van Leeuwen: thx bye

11:05:00 <Zakim> - +1.202.566.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.202.566.aaff

11:05:00 <George> bye

George Thomas: bye

11:05:00 <Zakim> -mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas

11:05:00 <bhyland> adjourned

Bernadette Hyland: adjourned

11:05:00 <Steeman> Thanks

Gerald Steeman: Thanks

11:05:00 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

11:05:00 <Zakim> -Simpson_2

Zakim IRC Bot: -Simpson_2

11:05:00 <Zakim> -hadleybeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -hadleybeeman

11:05:00 <Zakim> - +1.518.276.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.518.276.aahh

11:05:00 <Zakim> -bkaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: -bkaempgen

11:05:00 <Zakim> -Yigal

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yigal

11:05:00 <Zakim> -George

Zakim IRC Bot: -George

11:05:00 <Zakim> -DruidSmith

Zakim IRC Bot: -DruidSmith

11:06:00 <Zakim> -cory-c

Zakim IRC Bot: -cory-c

11:06:00 <bhyland> Ghislain, are you familiar with the process for writing the minutes using zakim?

Bernadette Hyland: Ghislain, are you familiar with the process for writing the minutes using zakim?

11:06:00 <Zakim> - +1.540.898.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.540.898.aabb

11:06:00 <Zakim> -ZacharyWhitley

Zakim IRC Bot: -ZacharyWhitley

11:06:00 <Zakim> -wbrafford

Zakim IRC Bot: -wbrafford

11:06:00 <Zakim> -??P50

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P50



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