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<sandro> scribe: sandro
(Scribe set to Sandro Hawke)
<sandro> present: bern, sandro, george, cygri, irene, boris, cory, martin, raphael
Scribe problem: the name 'cory' does not match any of the 17 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Bernadette Hyland Boris Villazón-Terrazas David Price Dean Allemang Fadi Maali George Thomas Irene Polikoff John Sheridan Maria Fernandez Ruiz Martín Álvarez Michael Hausenblas Mohamed ZERGAOUI Raphaël Troncy Richard Cyganiak Sandro Hawke
<sandro> guest: Andy Schain, NASA
<sandro> guest: Anne Washington, GWU
<sandro> guest: Bob DuCharme
<sandro> guest: Chris Musialek, GSA
<sandro> guest: Daniel Mekonnen, Alion
<sandro> guest: David (DruidSmith) Smith, EPA
<sandro> guest: David Wood, 3 Round Stones
<sandro> guest: Ernest (Ernie) Lucier, NITRD
<sandro> guest: Faisal D'Souza, NITRD
<sandro> guest: Gerald Steeman, NASA
<sandro> guest: Greg (gtw) Williams, RPI
<sandro> guest: Kevin Merritt, Socrata
<sandro> guest: Kristin Rutland, NASA
<sandro> guest: Michael (MikeA) Aisenberg, MITRE
<sandro> guest: Michael (MikeP) Pendleton, EPA
<sandro> guest: Richard (Rick) Murphy, GSA
<sandro> guest: Ronald Reck, Rrecktek
<sandro> guest: Tina Gheen, NSF/LoC
<sandro> guest: Todd Pehle, Orbis
<sandro> guest: William Brafford, Revelytix
<sandro> guest: William Sanchez, Orbis
<sandro> guest: Yigal Arens, ISI
<sandro> guest: Ansgar Scherp, Koblenz
<sandro> guest: Bart van Leeuwen, Fire Dept Amsterdam
<sandro> guest: Benedikt (bkaempgen) Kämpgen, FZI Karlsruhe
<sandro> guest: Hadley Beeman, LinkedGov
<sandro> guest: Jeanne Holm, NASA
<sandro> guest: Michael Hausenblas, DERI
<sandro> guest: Simon Wall, Australian Bureau of Statistics
<sandro> guest: Tope (tobo) Omitola, Soton
<sandro> guest: Zachary Whitley, JHU
<sandro> guest: George Strawn, NITRD
12:59:09 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-gld-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-gld-irc ←
12:59:29 <sandro> Zakim, this is gld
Zakim, this is gld ←
12:59:29 <Zakim> ok, sandro; that matches SW_e-Gov(GLDWG)8:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, sandro; that matches SW_e-Gov(GLDWG)8:00AM ←
12:59:31 <sandro> Zakim, who is here?
Zakim, who is here? ←
12:59:31 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.703.292.aaaa, +1.240.228.aabb (muted), +1.303.773.aadd, +44.776.871.aaee (muted), +1.757.604.aaff, ??P16
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.703.292.aaaa, +1.240.228.aabb (muted), +1.303.773.aadd, +44.776.871.aaee (muted), +1.757.604.aaff, ??P16 ←
12:59:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see raphael, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, sandro, Jeanne_, gtw, ZachWhitley, Debbie, HadleyBeeman, boris, cygri, BartvanLeeuwen, martin, Ansgar_Scherp, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see raphael, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, sandro, Jeanne_, gtw, ZachWhitley, Debbie, HadleyBeeman, boris, cygri, BartvanLeeuwen, martin, Ansgar_Scherp, trackbot ←
13:01:55 <Zakim> +Jeanne
Zakim IRC Bot: +Jeanne ←
13:03:07 <sandro> topic: Welcome from NITRD
13:03:18 <Zakim> +??P28
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P28 ←
13:03:23 <sandro> George Strawn talking about NITRD
George Strawn talking about NITRD ←
13:03:55 <sandro> RRSAgent, make log public
RRSAgent, make log public ←
13:04:03 <Zakim> + +49.721.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.721.aagg ←
13:04:26 <George> http://dashboard.nitrd.gov/
George Thomas: http://dashboard.nitrd.gov/ ←
13:04:32 <sandro> strawn: We've already made a Semantic Dashboard, for results of our 20 year history of activities. We have some self-interest in hosting you.
George Strawn: We've already made a Semantic Dashboard, for results of our 20 year history of activities. We have some self-interest in hosting you. ←
13:05:47 <sandro> topic: Introductions
13:06:10 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1_Attendance
http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1_Attendance ←
13:06:25 <sandro> Andy Schain, NASA
Andy Schain, NASA ←
13:06:51 <BartvanLeeuwen> sandro, can I just edit and add myself to the remote list ?
Bart Leeuwen: sandro, can I just edit and add myself to the remote list ? ←
13:06:54 <sandro> andy: I'm the new AC Rep for NASA. We've had a few successful LD implementations within NASA
Andy Schain: I'm the new AC Rep for NASA. We've had a few successful LD implementations within NASA ←
13:06:59 <sandro> yes, BartvanLeeuwen
yes, BartvanLeeuwen ←
13:07:43 <sandro> Bernadette Hyland, 3 Round Stones (co-chair)
Bernadette Hyland, 3 Round Stones (co-chair) ←
13:08:19 <sandro> Bernadette: I've been doing Sem Tech since before RDF, experience at CEO of companies doing this work
Bernadette Hyland: I've been doing Sem Tech since before RDF, experience at CEO of companies doing this work ←
13:09:01 <sandro> Bernadette: This is an INTERNATIONAL WG; lots of people from other countries on the phone.
Bernadette Hyland: This is an INTERNATIONAL WG; lots of people from other countries on the phone. ←
13:09:07 <sandro> Bob DuCharme
Bob DuCharme ←
13:09:25 <sandro> bobd: I'm with TQ, but not representing them today.
Bob DuCharme: I'm with TQ, but not representing them today. ←
13:09:41 <sandro> Chris Musialek, GSA
Chris Musialek, GSA ←
13:10:09 <sandro> chrism: A software developer at GSA, recently joined data.gov team, getting up to speed on LD
Chris Musialek: A software developer at GSA, recently joined data.gov team, getting up to speed on LD ←
13:10:18 <sandro> Cory Casanave, Model-Driven Solutions
Cory Casanave, Model-Driven Solutions ←
13:10:44 <sandro> cory: active in a lot of the standards, eg OMG, Arch EcoSystem, Open Gov Vocabs WG
Unknown cory: active in a lot of the standards, eg OMG, Arch EcoSystem, Open Gov Vocabs WG ←
13:11:05 <sandro> David Wood, 3 Round Stones
David Wood, 3 Round Stones ←
13:11:20 <BartvanLeeuwen> volume is okay
Bart Leeuwen: volume is okay ←
13:11:38 <sandro> DavidW: I work with Bern at 3RS, I'm co-chair of RDF WG at W3C. Been doing this stuff a long time.
David Wood: I work with Bern at 3RS, I'm co-chair of RDF WG at W3C. Been doing this stuff a long time. ←
13:12:17 <sandro> Ernest Lucier, NITRD
Ernest Lucier, NITRD ←
13:12:41 <sandro> ernest: Our goal is spread the word, get other agencies to take advantage
Ernest Lucier: Our goal is spread the word, get other agencies to take advantage ←
13:12:50 <sandro> George Thomas, HHS (co-chair)
George Thomas, HHS (co-chair) ←
13:13:25 <sandro> George: Being working with SemWeb Tech and LD for a little while, recently complete project. Happy to have the opportunity to co-chair this wrok
George Thomas: Being working with SemWeb Tech and LD for a little while, recently complete project. Happy to have the opportunity to co-chair this wrok ←
13:13:36 <sandro> Gerald Steeman, NASA (remote)
Gerald Steeman, NASA (remote) ←
13:14:27 <sandro> gerald: At NASA STI program. Got about 1m technical reports, 300k digitized, many more tech documents in metadata ref form, ... we're interested in where linked data will take us in the future --- we have a lot of stuff we could use more efficiently;
Gerald Steeman: At NASA STI program. Got about 1m technical reports, 300k digitized, many more tech documents in metadata ref form, ... we're interested in where linked data will take us in the future --- we have a lot of stuff we could use more efficiently; ←
13:14:32 <sandro> Greg Williams, RPI
Greg Williams, RPI ←
13:15:15 <sandro> gregw: representing RPI's LD project. I mostly do low-level workflows on the team, converting data to RDF. It might not be me long-term for RDF.
Greg Williams: representing RPI's LD project. I mostly do low-level workflows on the team, converting data to RDF. It might not be me long-term for RDF. ←
13:16:08 <sandro> Michael Pendleton, EPA
Michael Pendleton, EPA ←
13:16:40 <sandro> pend: Work in datastds of key data objects, facs and chems we regulated. working on substance registry
Michael Pendleton: Work in datastds of key data objects, facs and chems we regulated. working on substance registry ←
13:17:02 <sandro> pend: working on toxics release inventory, very important data set.
Michael Pendleton: working on toxics release inventory, very important data set. ←
13:17:26 <sandro> Ronald Reck, Rrecktek
Ronald Reck, Rrecktek ←
13:18:08 <sandro> ron: Consultant, I've worked on big RDF projects, inference for access control, versioning system, hoping to join at IE. Was on GRDDL WG, Social Web IG, ...
Ronald Reck: Consultant, I've worked on big RDF projects, inference for access control, versioning system, hoping to join at IE. Was on GRDDL WG, Social Web IG, ... ←
13:18:16 <sandro> Sandro Hawke, W3C (staff contact)
Sandro Hawke, W3C (staff contact) ←
13:18:53 <raphael> Raphael, EURECOM (France), datalift project in France that aims to do the data.gov.fr, interest in multimedia semantics, working on SW and LinkedData since 10 years
Raphaël Troncy: Raphael, EURECOM (France), datalift project in France that aims to do the data.gov.fr, interest in multimedia semantics, working on SW and LinkedData since 10 years ←
13:19:03 <BartvanLeeuwen> it was hard
Bart Leeuwen: it was hard ←
13:19:09 <sandro> Todd Pehle, Orbis
Todd Pehle, Orbis ←
13:19:10 <Bernadette> Sandro introduces himself, been involved in semweb stuff for 11 years. He is working also on SPARQL working group, RDF WG, along with GLD WG.
Bernadette Hyland: Sandro introduces himself, been involved in semweb stuff for 11 years. He is working also on SPARQL working group, RDF WG, along with GLD WG. ←
13:19:59 <sandro> todd: RDF, cloud computing, a number of programs using Linked Data. Tasked to do LD Best Practices within org, so excited to be here
Todd Pehle: RDF, cloud computing, a number of programs using Linked Data. Tasked to do LD Best Practices within org, so excited to be here ←
13:20:15 <sandro> todd: GIS / Spacial. Geo VoCamp at LoC recently.
Todd Pehle: GIS / Spacial. Geo VoCamp at LoC recently. ←
13:20:36 <sandro> William Brafford, Revelytix
William Brafford, Revelytix ←
13:21:13 <sandro> braf: SW compa out of Baltimore, data federation, govt projects. NYC data projects last fall. Interested in govt data publishing space.
William Brafford: SW compa out of Baltimore, data federation, govt projects. NYC data projects last fall. Interested in govt data publishing space. ←
13:21:26 <sandro> dwood: Rev is one of the most innovative companies in this space.
David Wood: Rev is one of the most innovative companies in this space. ←
13:21:33 <sandro> Yigal Arens, ISI
Yigal Arens, ISI ←
13:21:51 <sandro> Arens: Worked in data space years ago.
Yigal Arens: Worked in data space years ago. ←
13:22:07 <sandro> William Sanchez, Orbis
William Sanchez, Orbis ←
13:22:32 <sandro> sanchez: I work with Todd. NCI, CDC; did LD for biomedical
William Sanchez: I work with Todd. NCI, CDC; did LD for biomedical ←
13:22:45 <sandro> Kristin Rutland, NASA
Kristin Rutland, NASA ←
13:23:02 <sandro> kristin: NASA with Vantage SW. Tasked to help on content collaboration strategy
Kristin Rutland: NASA with Vantage SW. Tasked to help on content collaboration strategy ←
13:23:34 <sandro> Tina Gheen, NSF: Library director at NSF, temp assig to LoC
Tina Gheen, NSF: Library director at NSF, temp assig to LoC ←
13:24:26 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:24:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.703.292.aaaa, +1.240.228.aabb, +1.303.773.aadd, +44.776.871.aaee, +1.757.604.aaff, ??P16, Jeanne, ??P28, +49.721.aagg (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.703.292.aaaa, +1.240.228.aabb, +1.303.773.aadd, +44.776.871.aaee, +1.757.604.aaff, ??P16, Jeanne, ??P28, +49.721.aagg (muted) ←
13:24:38 <sandro> Bart van Leeuwen, netage.nl / Fire Department Amsterdam,
Bart van Leeuwen, netage.nl / Fire Department Amsterdam, ←
13:25:37 <BartvanLeeuwen> did anyhing come through ?
Bart Leeuwen: did anyhing come through ? ←
13:26:04 <sandro> yes, BartvanLeeuwen we heard you. :-)
yes, BartvanLeeuwen we heard you. :-) ←
13:26:17 <BartvanLeeuwen> okay, didn't get any feedback
Bart Leeuwen: okay, didn't get any feedback ←
13:26:17 <sandro> Boris Villazón Terrazas, U.P. Madrid
Boris Villazón Terrazas, U.P. Madrid ←
13:26:54 <sandro> boris: research in ontology group at Univ Polit. Madrid; working with several agencies
Boris Villazón-Terrazas: research in ontology group at Univ Polit. Madrid; working with several agencies ←
13:28:01 <sandro> Brodt-Giles
Brodt-Giles ←
13:28:15 <sandro> Hadley Beeman, LinkedGov
Hadley Beeman, LinkedGov ←
13:28:30 <sandro> hadley: head of UK Govts board
Hadley Beeman: head of UK Govts board ←
13:28:41 <sandro> hadley: interested in doing it via gamification
Hadley Beeman: interested in doing it via gamification ←
13:28:57 <sandro> hadly: interesting in contributing ways to do this on the ground, with real take up
Hadley Beeman: interesting in contributing ways to do this on the ground, with real take up ←
13:29:06 <sandro> Jeanne Holm, NASA
Jeanne Holm, NASA ←
13:29:32 <sandro> Jeanne: I'm eveng for Data.gov and Know. Arch at NASA. Also, for AF and Navy.
Jeanne Holm: I'm eveng for Data.gov and Know. Arch at NASA. Also, for AF and Navy. ←
13:29:59 <sandro> Jeanne: Working on making data reusable
Jeanne Holm: Working on making data reusable ←
13:30:24 <sandro> Zachary Whitley, JHU
Zachary Whitley, JHU ←
13:30:43 <Bernadette> Prior to Hadley Beeman and Jeanne Holm, was Debbie Brodt-Giles, from NREL calling in from Colorado. She is working on Open Energy International , sharing energy information with the world.
Bernadette Hyland: Prior to Hadley Beeman and Jeanne Holm, was Debbie Brodt-Giles, from NREL calling in from Colorado. She is working on Open Energy International , sharing energy information with the world. ←
13:30:46 <raphael> s/hadly/hadley
13:30:47 <sandro> zach: A few LD/RDF projects, homeland protection, cross-agency data intg.
Zachary Whitley: A few LD/RDF projects, homeland protection, cross-agency data intg. ←
13:31:53 <sandro> Benedikt Kämpgen, FZI
Benedikt Kämpgen, FZI ←
13:32:23 <Bernadette> for ease of reference, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1
Bernadette Hyland: for ease of reference, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1 ←
13:33:13 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
13:33:41 <gtw> Zakim, who is talking?
Greg Williams: Zakim, who is talking? ←
13:33:48 <martin> zakim, P9 is martin
Martín Álvarez: zakim, P9 is martin ←
13:33:48 <Zakim> sorry, martin, I do not recognize a party named 'P9'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, martin, I do not recognize a party named 'P9' ←
13:33:54 <Zakim> gtw, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: Jeanne (28%), +1.703.292.aaaa (88%)
Zakim IRC Bot: gtw, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: Jeanne (28%), +1.703.292.aaaa (88%) ←
13:34:16 <martin> zakim,+??P9 is martin
Martín Álvarez: zakim,+??P9 is martin ←
13:34:16 <Zakim> sorry, martin, I do not recognize a party named '+??P9'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, martin, I do not recognize a party named '+??P9' ←
13:35:57 <martin> zakim, ??P9 is martin
Martín Álvarez: zakim, ??P9 is martin ←
13:35:57 <Zakim> +martin; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +martin; got it ←
13:36:15 <Bernadette> Sandro is giving an overview of the W3C now, see presentation on http://www.w3.org/2011/Talks/0628-gld-sandro/
Bernadette Hyland: Sandro is giving an overview of the W3C now, see presentation on http://www.w3.org/2011/Talks/0628-gld-sandro/ ←
13:39:25 <Zakim> + +1.202.409.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.409.aahh ←
13:43:44 <Bernadette> Sandro discussing the process, both formal & informal, around a working group.
Bernadette Hyland: Sandro discussing the process, both formal & informal, around a working group. ←
13:44:47 <Bernadette> There is always input from two sides, the public and W3C members. Occasionally we take invited experts which we'll talk more about later.
Bernadette Hyland: There is always input from two sides, the public and W3C members. Occasionally we take invited experts which we'll talk more about later. ←
13:46:08 <Bernadette> Within a Recommendation Track, every 3 mos a working draft is published. People who really care will follow each working draft, but the public review really comes in at the Last Call for Working Draft.
Bernadette Hyland: Within a Recommendation Track, every 3 mos a working draft is published. People who really care will follow each working draft, but the public review really comes in at the Last Call for Working Draft. ←
13:47:21 <Bernadette> Implementation phase - if it is code, code needs to have been written and tested. If policy, people have to have tried it and confirmed it works. This is the process to avoid publication of bad recommendations.
Bernadette Hyland: Implementation phase - if it is code, code needs to have been written and tested. If policy, people have to have tried it and confirmed it works. This is the process to avoid publication of bad recommendations. ←
13:54:11 <Zakim> + +49.261.287.aaii
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Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.261.287.aaii ←
13:54:53 <Ansgar_Scherp> just joined the telco
Ansgar Scherp: just joined the telco ←
13:56:01 <HadleyBeeman> Have we lost the sound?
Hadley Beeman: Have we lost the sound? ←
13:56:05 <HadleyBeeman> (or is it just me?)
Hadley Beeman: (or is it just me?) ←
13:56:19 <BartvanLeeuwen> just you
Bart Leeuwen: just you ←
13:56:20 <Bernadette> can you try redialing in Hadley?
Bernadette Hyland: can you try redialing in Hadley? ←
13:56:27 <HadleyBeeman> I will. Thanks
Hadley Beeman: I will. Thanks ←
13:57:06 <Zakim> + +44.776.871.aajj
Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.776.871.aajj ←
13:57:20 <Zakim> - +49.261.287.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: - +49.261.287.aaii ←
13:57:22 <Bernadette> Hadley, I assume that is you with +44 prefix ...
Bernadette Hyland: Hadley, I assume that is you with +44 prefix ... ←
13:57:30 <HadleyBeeman> Yes— all better now!
Hadley Beeman: Yes— all better now! ←
13:57:31 <HadleyBeeman> Thanks
Hadley Beeman: Thanks ←
13:59:23 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, +44.776.871.aajj is HadleyBeeman
Hadley Beeman: zakim, +44.776.871.aajj is HadleyBeeman ←
13:59:23 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman; got it ←
13:59:54 <Zakim> - +44.776.871.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: - +44.776.871.aaee ←
14:02:24 <sandro> Bernadette: (underscoring international nature of group)
Bernadette Hyland: (underscoring international nature of group) ←
14:03:22 <sandro> David Smith, EPA
David Smith, EPA ←
14:03:48 <sandro> dsmith:fairly new to LD, but getting out feet wet. 2.8m facilities.
David Smith: fairly new to LD, but getting out feet wet. 2.8m facilities. ←
14:04:18 <sandro> Daniel M: next gen air traffic system, doubling of air traffic
Daniel M: next gen air traffic system, doubling of air traffic ←
14:04:32 <sandro> .. have to cope with all their systems and agency data. Semantics is the way to handle that.
.. have to cope with all their systems and agency data. Semantics is the way to handle that. ←
14:04:38 <sandro> Rick Murphy, GSA
Rick Murphy, GSA ←
14:04:59 <Zakim> - +1.202.409.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.202.409.aahh ←
14:05:06 <sandro> rick: I wrote w3c's linked gov data use case in 2008.
Richard Murphy: I wrote w3c's linked gov data use case in 2008. ←
14:12:49 <Bernadette> Dave Wood encourages people who can *do* to participate in the GLD WG. He commented on how much does in fact get done with a geographically distributed community.
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Bernadette Hyland: Dave Wood encourages people who can *do* to participate in the GLD WG. He commented on how much does in fact get done with a geographically distributed community. ←
14:13:41 <Bernadette> Dave Wood highlights that the out of scope issue "A vocabulary for expressing the similarity between entities, like owl:sameAs or skos:exactMatch" means it is not up to this WG to come up with new mechanisms. We do expect to use existing mechanisms.
Bernadette Hyland: Dave Wood highlights that the out of scope issue "A vocabulary for expressing the similarity between entities, like owl:sameAs or skos:exactMatch" means it is not up to this WG to come up with new mechanisms. We do expect to use existing mechanisms. ←
14:14:37 <Bernadette> Can remote callers all hear Dave Wood speaking (mic is not close to him)
Bernadette Hyland: Can remote callers all hear Dave Wood speaking (mic is not close to him) ←
14:14:44 <HadleyBeeman> Yes
Hadley Beeman: Yes ←
14:14:46 <Bernadette> ta
Bernadette Hyland: ta ←
14:18:18 <bkaempgen> zakim, who's here?
Benedikt Kämpgen: zakim, who's here? ←
14:18:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.703.292.aaaa, +1.240.228.aabb (muted), +1.303.773.aadd, +1.757.604.aaff, ??P16, Jeanne, ??P28, +49.721.aagg (muted), martin (muted), HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.703.292.aaaa, +1.240.228.aabb (muted), +1.303.773.aadd, +1.757.604.aaff, ??P16, Jeanne, ??P28, +49.721.aagg (muted), martin (muted), HadleyBeeman ←
14:18:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see tobo, CoryCasanave, chrism, Michael, boris, cygri, Yigal, raphael, wbrafford, bkaempgen, Bernadette, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, sandro, Jeanne_, gtw, ZachWhitley,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see tobo, CoryCasanave, chrism, Michael, boris, cygri, Yigal, raphael, wbrafford, bkaempgen, Bernadette, George, Zakim, RRSAgent, sandro, Jeanne_, gtw, ZachWhitley, ←
14:18:23 <Zakim> ... Debbie, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, martin, Ansgar_Scherp, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Debbie, HadleyBeeman, BartvanLeeuwen, martin, Ansgar_Scherp, trackbot ←
14:18:39 <tobo> Yes, tobo == Tope Omitola
Tope Omitola: Yes, tobo == Tope Omitola ←
14:24:34 <BartvanLeeuwen> I miss a entry for 'events'
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Bart Leeuwen: I miss a entry for 'events' ←
14:26:05 <Jeanne_> Will be offline for about 30 minutes then back.
Jeanne Holm: Will be offline for about 30 minutes then back. ←
14:26:55 <Zakim> -Jeanne
Zakim IRC Bot: -Jeanne ←
14:28:25 <sandro> ernie: How will you get Govt agencies to join, which seems necessary for this charter?
Ernest Lucier: How will you get Govt agencies to join, which seems necessary for this charter? ←
14:28:43 <BartvanLeeuwen> current speaker is not understandable
Bart Leeuwen: current speaker is not understandable ←
14:28:53 <Bernadette> Rick Murphy suggested a broader engagement model, beyond just federal gov't agencies. He has worked with other standards organizations who have a broader model.
Bernadette Hyland: Rick Murphy suggested a broader engagement model, beyond just federal gov't agencies. He has worked with other standards organizations who have a broader model. ←
14:28:58 <sandro> rick: W3C shouild consider a broader participation model.
Richard Murphy: W3C shouild consider a broader participation model. ←
14:29:12 <HadleyBeeman> Thanks, Bernadette
Hadley Beeman: Thanks, Bernadette ←
14:29:21 <sandro> rick: It's too limiitted to only sign up agencies.
Richard Murphy: It's too limiitted to only sign up agencies. ←
14:29:57 <sandro> Michael Aisenberg, MITRE
Michael Aisenberg, MITRE ←
14:30:26 <sandro> Irene Polikoff, TopQuadrant
Irene Polikoff, TopQuadrant ←
14:30:48 <sandro> irene: CEO of TQ; we participate in stds, but this new for me.
Irene Polikoff: CEO of TQ; we participate in stds, but this new for me. ←
14:31:05 <sandro> Kevin Merritt, Socrata
Kevin Merritt, Socrata ←
14:31:20 <sandro> kevin: We power many open govt platforms
Kevin Merritt: We power many open govt platforms ←
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14:31:48 <sandro> Richard Cyganiak, DERI
Richard Cyganiak, DERI ←
14:32:25 <sandro> cyg: We have a many gov data and LD activities. I'd like to talk about what we do for metadata and cube data.
Richard Cyganiak: We have a many gov data and LD activities. I'd like to talk about what we do for metadata and cube data. ←
14:33:14 <Bernadette> Hi Richard, do you slides you can link to? http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1
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14:34:15 <tobo> Tope Omitola, University of Southampton
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14:40:53 <cygri> my slides are on the wiki
Richard Cyganiak: my slides are on the wiki ←
14:40:55 <cygri> 1. http://richard.cyganiak.de/2011/gld/gld-dcat-and-void.pdf
Richard Cyganiak: 1. http://richard.cyganiak.de/2011/gld/gld-dcat-and-void.pdf ←
14:41:01 <cygri> 2. http://richard.cyganiak.de/2011/gld/gld-data-cube.pdf
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14:53:22 <davidwood> Scribenick: davidwood
(Scribe set to David Wood)
14:53:25 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/slides/2011-06-29-Aisenberg.pptx
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/slides/2011-06-29-Aisenberg.pptx ←
14:53:42 <HadleyBeeman> For BartvanLeeuwen: http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot
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14:54:00 <cygri> http://richard.cyganiak.de/2011/gld/gld-dcat-and-void.pdf
Richard Cyganiak: http://richard.cyganiak.de/2011/gld/gld-dcat-and-void.pdf ←
14:55:41 <davidwood> Cygri: presenting metadata for datasets, especially two vocabularies being developed at DERI that are relevant to this group.
Richard Cyganiak: presenting metadata for datasets, especially two vocabularies being developed at DERI that are relevant to this group. ←
14:56:02 <davidwood> ... One of the major barriers has finds ology
... One of the major barriers has findability ←
14:56:29 <davidwood> s/finds ology/findability/
14:57:01 <davidwood> ...dcat is a data catalog vocal
...dcat is a data catalog vocab ←
14:57:22 <davidwood> s/vocal/vocab/
14:57:51 <davidwood> ...There are about 50 government data catalogs currently published.
...There are about 50 government data catalogs currently published. ←
14:59:45 <davidwood> ...dcat is based around Dublin Co, SKOS and FOAF.
...dcat is based around Dublin Co, SKOS and FOAF. ←
15:01:33 <davidwood> ...cygri showed several uses and users of dcat, especially Spain.
...cygri showed several uses and users of dcat, especially Spain. ←
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15:02:56 <DruidSmith> msg Bernadette I uploaded my slide deck to Slideshare: http://www.slideshare.net/DruidSmith/linked-data-w3c-20110629 - but I don't yet have W3C credentials to edit the wiki and add it...
David Smith: msg Bernadette I uploaded my slide deck to Slideshare: http://www.slideshare.net/DruidSmith/linked-data-w3c-20110629 - but I don't yet have W3C credentials to edit the wiki and add it... ←
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15:05:22 <davidwood> cygri next discussed VoID, a vocabulary to describe 4 and 5 star data sets.
cygri next discussed VoID, a vocabulary to describe 4 and 5 star data sets. ←
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15:06:02 <davidwood> ...VoID has been submitted as a W3 IG Note.
...VoID has been submitted as a W3 IG Note. ←
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15:06:51 <davidwood> ...widely used, including by DBpedia, OpenLink, data.gov.uk and others.
...widely used, including by DBpedia, OpenLink, data.gov.uk and others. ←
15:07:01 <Zakim> +Jeanne
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15:07:19 <davidwood> ...used to generate the LOD cloud diagram.
...used to generate the LOD cloud diagram. ←
15:09:02 <cygri> part 2: http://richard.cyganiak.de/2011/gld/gld-data-cube.pdf
Richard Cyganiak: part 2: http://richard.cyganiak.de/2011/gld/gld-data-cube.pdf ←
15:09:20 <davidwood> cygri: The Irish government has been slow to adopt LOD, so their work is funded by the EU.
Richard Cyganiak: The Irish government has been slow to adopt LOD, so their work is funded by the EU. ←
15:09:25 <davidwood> cygri: Now presenting Publishing statistics with the Data Cube vocabulary.
Richard Cyganiak: Now presenting Publishing statistics with the Data Cube vocabulary. ←
15:11:12 <davidwood> ...Many government agencies collect and wish to disseminate statistical data. A data model is needed to allow for the publishing of statistical data in RDF.
...Many government agencies collect and wish to disseminate statistical data. A data model is needed to allow for the publishing of statistical data in RDF. ←
15:12:14 <davidwood> ......characteristics include aggregate data, numerical data, time series and multi-dimensional data.
......characteristics include aggregate data, numerical data, time series and multi-dimensional data. ←
15:13:43 <davidwood> ...Governments have an incentive to collect and disseminate statistical data, so the data is often of high quality. The "sales process" of LOD is often easier with statistics people.
...Governments have an incentive to collect and disseminate statistical data, so the data is often of high quality. The "sales process" of LOD is often easier with statistics people. ←
15:14:28 <davidwood> ...He presented an example of a data cube (regarding life expectancy).
...He presented an example of a data cube (regarding life expectancy). ←
15:15:47 <davidwood> ...The Data Cube vocabulary is used to model statistics in RDF. It is based on SDMX, an XML schema started in 2001.
...The Data Cube vocabulary is used to model statistics in RDF. It is based on SDMX, an XML schema started in 2001. ←
15:16:39 <davidwood> ...SDMX covers more than data cubes, so only the core model was reused.
...SDMX covers more than data cubes, so only the core model was reused. ←
15:20:14 <davidwood> ...There is a draft specification. More tools are needed. There are several existing datasets, such as those by data.gov.uk, 2006 Irish census (2011 in progress)...
...There is a draft specification. More tools are needed. There are several existing datasets, such as those by data.gov.uk, 2006 Irish census (2011 in progress)... ←
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15:20:55 <davidwood> ....The Data Cube vocabulary is applicable for OLAP-style data warehouses.
....The Data Cube vocabulary is applicable for OLAP-style data warehouses. ←
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15:23:04 <BartvanLeeuwen> OT: meeting takes place in DC timezone right so 11:22 now ?
Bart Leeuwen: OT: meeting takes place in DC timezone right so 11:22 now ? ←
15:23:24 <gtw> yes
Greg Williams: yes ←
15:23:30 <davidwood> ...The SDMX Consortium has NOT been approached, which needs to happen before any standard is based on this work. A patent search has not yet occurred.
...The SDMX Consortium has NOT been approached, which needs to happen before any standard is based on this work. A patent search has not yet occurred. ←
15:25:18 <davidwood> Kevin Merritt, Socrata, presented regarding data.gov's current status.
Kevin Merritt, Socrata, presented regarding data.gov's current status. ←
15:26:24 <davidwood> ...Socrata is intended to be a bridge between government agencies and the analysts, consumers that want it.
...Socrata is intended to be a bridge between government agencies and the analysts, consumers that want it. ←
15:26:32 <davidwood> ...it is delivered as a cloud-based service.
...it is delivered as a cloud-based service. ←
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15:26:59 <davidwood> ...Also used by some state and local governments.
...Also used by some state and local governments. ←
15:27:55 <davidwood> ...There are APIs for developers.
...There are APIs for developers. ←
15:29:43 <davidwood> ...Agencies can publish their data and Socrata will federate into a common catalog.
...Agencies can publish their data and Socrata will federate into a common catalog. ←
15:29:55 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/People/Sandro/webcam
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/People/Sandro/webcam ←
15:30:46 <davidwood> Sandro: Remote attendees can now see the slides at the above URL.
Sandro Hawke: Remote attendees can now see the slides at the above URL. ←
15:35:01 <Ansgar_Scherp> slides are also linked from the W3C wiki page
Ansgar Scherp: slides are also linked from the W3C wiki page ←
15:35:17 <davidwood> Kevin Merritt: data federation in Socrata does not currently allow non-Socrata customers to federate their data. They are working toward that.
Kevin Merritt: data federation in Socrata does not currently allow non-Socrata customers to federate their data. They are working toward that. ←
15:35:36 <Ansgar_Scherp> anyone knows details about the federation mechanism used at data.gov?
Ansgar Scherp: anyone knows details about the federation mechanism used at data.gov? ←
15:35:41 <davidwood> ...Their Linked Data support is currently "sprinkled in".
...Their Linked Data support is currently "sprinkled in". ←
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15:37:50 <davidwood> ...They plan to have a RESTful interface to allow distributed update of a catalog to allow more agencies to play. They are interested in working with this WG to do this in a Linked Data way.
...They plan to have a RESTful interface to allow distributed update of a catalog to allow more agencies to play. They are interested in working with this WG to do this in a Linked Data way. ←
15:38:10 <tobo> Hello all, I have to rush off now, but will join you tomorrow. I'll be giving my talk tomorrow.
Tope Omitola: Hello all, I have to rush off now, but will join you tomorrow. I'll be giving my talk tomorrow. ←
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15:39:02 <davidwood> ...They are "not a Linked Data or Semantic Web company", but want their data to be linkable and expressible.
...They are "not a Linked Data or Semantic Web company", but want their data to be linkable and expressible. ←
15:40:03 <sandro> kevin: I'm not the LD expert, but Greg Lockhart couldn't be here today
Kevin Merritt: I'm not the LD expert, but Greg Lockhart couldn't be here today [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:40:54 <sandro> reck: MOU-driven, the problem is political more than technical
Ronald Reck: MOU-driven, the problem is political more than technical [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:41:27 <sandro> kevin: decent is good, because folks want to control their own data, ESPECIALLY police depts. if they can control the release, they share more.
Kevin Merritt: decent is good, because folks want to control their own data, ESPECIALLY police depts. if they can control the release, they share more. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
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15:41:38 <ZachWhitley> ...They are "not a Linked Data or Semantic Web company" sounds like their marketing message. The question is why don't they feel comfortable marketing themselves as a Semantic Web Company?
Zachary Whitley: ...They are "not a Linked Data or Semantic Web company" sounds like their marketing message. The question is why don't they feel comfortable marketing themselves as a Semantic Web Company? ←
15:41:46 <davidwood> David Wood volunteered to speak with Greg Lockhart about adding Linked Data support to Socrata.
David Wood volunteered to speak with Greg Lockhart about adding Linked Data support to Socrata. ←
15:43:17 <Bernadette> Zach - I'll raise your question if you don't ...
Bernadette Hyland: Zach - I'll raise your question if you don't ... ←
15:43:24 <sandro> kevin: We use "transparency" as a calling card, to open the conversation, but then we help them see ways to save a lot of money sharing data better.
Kevin Merritt: We use "transparency" as a calling card, to open the conversation, but then we help them see ways to save a lot of money sharing data better. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:44:23 <sandro> davidw: My concern is that a lot of the data is in the 1-star category, where this group is about moving up the value chain, because at the 5 star level data can be combiined and repurposed.
David Wood: My concern is that a lot of the data is in the 1-star category, where this group is about moving up the value chain, because at the 5 star level data can be combiined and repurposed. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:45:13 <ZachWhitley> haha please do. It's probably easier for you to get the floor being there in person.
Zachary Whitley: haha please do. It's probably easier for you to get the floor being there in person. ←
15:45:19 <sandro> ... We have a lot of agencies who publish as they were funded to do. That subset of data, done in support of particular program, is generally not in the form an analyst or consumer needs. So the LD approach is anwer questions the govt didnt presuppose.
Sandro Hawke: ... We have a lot of agencies who publish as they were funded to do. That subset of data, done in support of particular program, is generally not in the form an analyst or consumer needs. So the LD approach is anwer questions the govt didnt presuppose. ←
15:45:44 <sandro> davidwood: I encourage your business to think about these benefits.
David Wood: I encourage your business to think about these benefits. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:46:20 <sandro> kevin: I appreciate all that. We're a software company. We didnt start as prof. engagements.
Kevin Merritt: I appreciate all that. We're a software company. We didnt start as prof. engagements. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:47:22 <sandro> kevin: Most orgs will publish in a form that's not optimized for consumers.
Kevin Merritt: Most orgs will publish in a form that's not optimized for consumers. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:48:17 <sandro> davidwood: 90% aligned, but I think you *should* care.
David Wood: 90% aligned, but I think you *should* care. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:48:32 <sandro> kevin: We're looking for market driven reasons to support this.
Kevin Merritt: We're looking for market driven reasons to support this. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:48:56 <sandro> GeorgeS: Think of consumers, where your consumers are computers.
George Strawn: Think of consumers, where your consumers are computers. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:49:58 <sandro> rickm: Contra, there can be values to previously unknown relationships. BUT if we can't contemplate all the relationships, that is of course a concern for the agencies. This WG might have an important topic: explain that well, and still articulate that value, while not presenting a risk.
Richard Murphy: Contra, there can be values to previously unknown relationships. BUT if we can't contemplate all the relationships, that is of course a concern for the agencies. This WG might have an important topic: explain that well, and still articulate that value, while not presenting a risk. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
15:50:16 <sandro> rickm: eg info that is published separately, but which combines to form sec risk.
Richard Murphy: eg info that is published separately, but which combines to form sec risk. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
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15:51:35 <ZachWhitley> Was trying to download some RDF from a socrata site and it crashed my browser
Zachary Whitley: Was trying to download some RDF from a socrata site and it crashed my browser ←
15:51:43 <davidwood> Todd Pehle, Orbis, presented re GIS data in a government setting with Linked Data.
Todd Pehle, Orbis, presented re GIS data in a government setting with Linked Data. ←
15:52:11 <ZachWhitley> There was an option to download in RDF
Zachary Whitley: There was an option to download in RDF ←
15:53:51 <davidwood> ...Orbis focuses on location data on the cloud described using semantic approaches.
...Orbis focuses on location data on the cloud described using semantic approaches. ←
15:55:44 <davidwood> ...The key distinction between LOD geo data and earlier approaches is that we are now dealing with a worldwide database of distributed location information.
...The key distinction between LOD geo data and earlier approaches is that we are now dealing with a worldwide database of distributed location information. ←
15:57:58 <davidwood> ..."Thus the lines between the SemWeb and the Geo Web could become blurry"
..."Thus the lines between the SemWeb and the Geo Web could become blurry" ←
15:58:16 <sandro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spatial_data_infrastructure
Sandro Hawke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spatial_data_infrastructure ←
15:59:40 <sandro> "neogeography"
Sandro Hawke: "neogeography" ←
15:59:56 <sandro> (DIY mapping)
Sandro Hawke: (DIY mapping) ←
16:00:13 <davidwood> ...he proposes a lightweight government Linked locations approach.
...he proposes a lightweight government Linked locations approach. ←
16:01:11 <davidwood> ..."citizen sensors", similar/related to openstreetmap.org?
..."citizen sensors", similar/related to openstreetmap.org? ←
16:01:14 <sandro> VGI -- Volunteered Geographic Information
Sandro Hawke: VGI -- Volunteered Geographic Information ←
16:01:25 <Zakim> +??P49
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16:03:47 <davidwood> ...enthusiastic about GeoSPARQL.
...enthusiastic about GeoSPARQL. ←
16:05:00 <ZachWhitley> GeoD2RQ?
Zachary Whitley: GeoD2RQ? ←
16:05:11 <davidwood> ...Need tools and best practices from this community and WG.
...Need tools and best practices from this community and WG. ←
16:05:24 <ZachWhitley> Did I hear that right? he's talking quickly.
Zachary Whitley: Did I hear that right? he's talking quickly. ←
16:06:57 <davidwood> ZachWhitley, I heard him say D2RQ, but not GeoD2RQ...
ZachWhitley, I heard him say D2RQ, but not GeoD2RQ... ←
16:07:16 <sandro> geosemantics wg at ogc
Sandro Hawke: geosemantics wg at ogc ←
16:07:20 <ZachWhitley> I believe that geosparql has been integrated into ESRI's geoportal server
Zachary Whitley: I believe that geosparql has been integrated into ESRI's geoportal server ←
16:07:47 <ZachWhitley> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fproceedings.esri.com%2Flibrary%2Fuserconf%2Fdevsummit11%2Fpapers%2Ftech%2Fcreating_geoportals_using_the_esri_geoportal_server.pdf&ei=nk0LTqmtIpK5tgeR-rBv&usg=AFQjCNGX3FE7v2qwsvG0RjwxzB10VzaOwg&sig2=TkzoXHGjDYfLGvbQB6HMlw
Zachary Whitley: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fproceedings.esri.com%2Flibrary%2Fuserconf%2Fdevsummit11%2Fpapers%2Ftech%2Fcreating_geoportals_using_the_esri_geoportal_server.pdf&ei=nk0LTqmtIpK5tgeR-rBv&usg=AFQjCNGX3FE7v2qwsvG0RjwxzB10VzaOwg&sig2=TkzoXHGjDYfLGvbQB6HMlw ←
16:08:25 <ZachWhitley> sorry about that http://proceedings.esri.com/library/userconf/devsummit11/papers/tech/creating_geoportals_using_the_esri_geoportal_server.pdf
Zachary Whitley: sorry about that http://proceedings.esri.com/library/userconf/devsummit11/papers/tech/creating_geoportals_using_the_esri_geoportal_server.pdf ←
16:10:37 <sandro> davidwood: cf Provenance WG, and Tom Heath
David Wood: cf Provenance WG, and Tom Heath [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
16:10:55 <sandro> Topic: Jeanne Holm presentation on Data.Gov
16:11:41 <davidwood> davidwood: See the w3 Provenance WG re event decisions about recording provenance in RDF. Also, see Tom Heath's NEAR data set.
David Wood: See the w3 Provenance WG re event decisions about recording provenance in RDF. Also, see Tom Heath's NEAR data set. ←
16:12:15 <davidwood> Jeanne Holme, data.gov evangelist, presented next.
Jeanne Holme, data.gov evangelist, presented next. ←
16:13:21 <davidwood> ...data.gov aimed at economy building, not just the publication of data.
...data.gov aimed at economy building, not just the publication of data. ←
16:13:56 <davidwood> ...trying to break down stovepipes; 156 agencies currently publishing on data.gov.
...trying to break down stovepipes; 156 agencies currently publishing on data.gov. ←
16:14:26 <davidwood> ...granted some agencies only publishing PDFs, but the first step is the hardest,
...granted some agencies only publishing PDFs, but the first step is the hardest, ←
16:17:19 <davidwood> ...data.gov site needs to serve many constituents, so sometimes you need to know where to go.
...data.gov site needs to serve many constituents, so sometimes you need to know where to go. ←
16:18:11 <davidwood> ...390,654 datasets available as of May 18, 2011, up from 47 two years earlier.
...390,654 datasets available as of May 18, 2011, up from 47 two years earlier. ←
16:18:35 <davidwood> ...204m hits to data.gov, presumably total.
...204m hits to data.gov, presumably total. ←
16:19:09 <davidwood> ...Current focus on making it easier to find data.
...Current focus on making it easier to find data. ←
16:19:41 <davidwood> ...One of the most popular data sets is the EPA's Toxic Release Inventory (TRI).
...One of the most popular data sets is the EPA's Toxic Release Inventory (TRI). ←
16:23:06 <davidwood> ...Working on developing and supporting "communities" that are driven by data. Trying to drive innovation and respond to emergent events (e.g. Haiti, fires, floods).
...Working on developing and supporting "communities" that are driven by data. Trying to drive innovation and respond to emergent events (e.g. Haiti, fires, floods). ←
16:24:01 <sandro> jeanne: Hundreds of new data sets from folks who didnt think they had data to share until they started participating in our forums, where they learned what data people wanted.
Jeanne Holm: Hundreds of new data sets from folks who didnt think they had data to share until they started participating in our forums, where they learned what data people wanted. [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
16:27:31 <davidwood> ...Goal: make data accessible and Linked 5 star.
...Goal: make data accessible and Linked 5 star. ←
16:28:46 <davidwood> ...The communi
...The communi ←
16:29:07 <davidwood> ...data.gov focuses on publishing and promoting.
...data.gov focuses on publishing and promoting. ←
16:29:39 <BartvanLeeuwen> does the charater discussion time is set ?
Bart Leeuwen: does the charater discussion time is set ? ←
16:29:46 <sandro> (second webcam working now.... reload http://www.w3.org/People/Sandro/webcam)
Sandro Hawke: (second webcam working now.... reload http://www.w3.org/People/Sandro/webcam) ←
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16:31:13 <gtw> ooh. much better latency on the new, small image
Greg Williams: ooh. much better latency on the new, small image ←
16:31:34 <sandro> Anne Washington
Sandro Hawke: Anne Washington ←
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16:32:14 <BartvanLeeuwen> in light of the agenda is the time for Charter discussion stil 14:15 ? ( then I'll be back after dinner here )
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16:32:53 <sandro> gtw, there's a tradeoff in speed vs resolution. for the slides, I figure slow but hires is best.
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16:33:09 <BartvanLeeuwen> since you said you gona reschedule
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16:33:29 <BartvanLeeuwen> Bernadette, I stil hear you
Bart Leeuwen: Bernadette, I stil hear you ←
16:33:49 <Bernadette> Yes Bart, I think discussion of charter is warranted ... working on rejigging schedule in afternoon now.
Bernadette Hyland: Yes Bart, I think discussion of charter is warranted ... working on rejigging schedule in afternoon now. ←
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16:34:07 <BartvanLeeuwen> okay, then I'll be back for that after my dinner
Bart Leeuwen: okay, then I'll be back for that after my dinner ←
16:34:19 <BartvanLeeuwen> I have some things I miss in there
Bart Leeuwen: I have some things I miss in there ←
16:34:34 <BartvanLeeuwen> I'm off this is my netage.nl 'office' time
Bart Leeuwen: I'm off this is my netage.nl 'office' time ←
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16:35:06 <BartvanLeeuwen> so I'll be back for that at 20:15 my time then
Bart Leeuwen: so I'll be back for that at 20:15 my time then ←
16:35:09 <BartvanLeeuwen> enjoy lunch !
Bart Leeuwen: enjoy lunch ! ←
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17:03:44 <HadleyBeeman> I'm afraid I must be off for dinner— enjoy the afternoon, all. Speak to you in the morning!
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17:39:44 <BernadetteHyland> We are about to start the afternoon session for GLD F2F
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17:41:49 <BernadetteHyland> please reload the wiki page for latest schedule changes. http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1
Bernadette Hyland: please reload the wiki page for latest schedule changes. http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1 ←
17:42:33 <sandro> topic: Dave Smith, EPA
17:43:02 <BernadetteHyland> Dave G. Smith from EPA on EPA Linked Data Directions
Bernadette Hyland: Dave G. Smith from EPA on EPA Linked Data Directions ←
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17:56:19 <BernadetteHyland> Next is Irene Polikoff from TopQuadrant on Linked Data Practices
Bernadette Hyland: Next is Irene Polikoff from TopQuadrant on Linked Data Practices ←
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17:56:46 <BernadetteHyland> Her talk is about what she hopes this working group will accomplish.
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17:56:57 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P4 is BartvanLeeuwen
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18:02:19 <BartvanLeeuwen> url ?
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Bart Leeuwen: url ? ←
18:02:37 <BartvanLeeuwen> nevermind had in history
Bart Leeuwen: nevermind had in history ←
18:04:30 <BartvanLeeuwen> sandro, I have a image now
Bart Leeuwen: sandro, I have a image now ←
18:05:32 <sandro> BartvanLeeuwen, you see two images, I hope. Big of slides, small of people.
Sandro Hawke: BartvanLeeuwen, you see two images, I hope. Big of slides, small of people. ←
18:05:50 <BartvanLeeuwen> ack
Bart Leeuwen: ack ←
<sandro> scribe: sandro
(Scribe set to Sandro Hawke)
18:07:20 <sandro> Irene: Should folks be using owl:imports for Linked Data?
Irene Polikoff: Should folks be using owl:imports for Linked Data? ←
18:07:55 <sandro> Irene: What information should be returned for a resource?
Irene Polikoff: What information should be returned for a resource? ←
18:08:19 <sandro> Irene: How to expess vocabulary and data mappings?
Irene Polikoff: How to expess vocabulary and data mappings? ←
18:09:05 <BartvanLeeuwen> I assume that these questions are to be answered by this group right ?
Bart Leeuwen: I assume that these questions are to be answered by this group right ? ←
18:10:20 <sandro> (yes, we'll at least try, or point people to solutions.)
(yes, we'll at least try, or point people to solutions.) ←
18:10:52 <BartvanLeeuwen> I would be willing to participate in that part for best practices
Bart Leeuwen: I would be willing to participate in that part for best practices ←
18:11:13 <BartvanLeeuwen> I see that the charter items part is postponed to 14:45 right ?
Bart Leeuwen: I see that the charter items part is postponed to 14:45 right ? ←
18:11:46 <sandro> yes
yes ←
18:12:01 <BernadetteHyland> David Wood now speaking on Dave Wood, URI Design & PURLs. Please refresh wiki to get URL for presentation
Bernadette Hyland: David Wood now speaking on Dave Wood, URI Design & PURLs. Please refresh wiki to get URL for presentation ←
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18:15:48 <sandro> (notes about URI opacity)
(notes about URI opacity) ←
18:16:45 <sandro> IMHO URI Opacity is like API opacity -- it's about one module talking to another module only through the documented interface
IMHO URI Opacity is like API opacity -- it's about one module talking to another module only through the documented interface ←
18:22:56 <BartvanLeeuwen> BernadetteHyland, can I write a comment on the charter here before I leave ?
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Bart Leeuwen: BernadetteHyland, can I write a comment on the charter here before I leave ? ←
18:25:51 <sandro> sure.
sure. ←
18:26:26 <sandro> davidwood: use "natural keys" in building URIs -- Rob Styles
David Wood: use "natural keys" in building URIs -- Rob Styles ←
18:27:12 <BartvanLeeuwen> okay, I miss 2 Items in the charter, somewhat closely related
Bart Leeuwen: okay, I miss 2 Items in the charter, somewhat closely related ←
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18:28:36 <sandro> cory: If you put data in URIs, you get into trouble.
Unknown cory: If you put data in URIs, you get into trouble. ←
18:29:47 <BartvanLeeuwen> 1) Standard Vocabularies area: Events: a standard way to describe events that happen ,are planned or happend in the past
Bart Leeuwen: 1) Standard Vocabularies area: Events: a standard way to describe events that happen ,are planned or happend in the past ←
18:29:50 <sandro> davidwood: It's okay to use opaque strings, I wouldnt blame you ... but these are nice, and if they are socially wrong, the software doesn't break (because it's treated as opaque).
David Wood: It's okay to use opaque strings, I wouldnt blame you ... but these are nice, and if they are socially wrong, the software doesn't break (because it's treated as opaque). ←
18:31:53 <BartvanLeeuwen> this way it would be possible to correlate the relation between various events in various organizations
Bart Leeuwen: this way it would be possible to correlate the relation between various events in various organizations ←
18:31:53 <BartvanLeeuwen> for my work I used e.g.: http://semanticweb.cs.vu.nl/2009/11/sem/
Bart Leeuwen: for my work I used e.g.: http://semanticweb.cs.vu.nl/2009/11/sem/ ←
18:32:25 <sandro> BartvanLeeuwen, it's too late to add something to the scope. So, keep that in mind for the next round, if this goes well..... No question, events are important. We just had to start somewhere for this group, and not bite off too much.
BartvanLeeuwen, it's too late to add something to the scope. So, keep that in mind for the next round, if this goes well..... No question, events are important. We just had to start somewhere for this group, and not bite off too much. ←
18:32:51 <BartvanLeeuwen> k, too bad
Bart Leeuwen: k, too bad ←
18:33:27 <sandro> There may be other vocab dev efforts at W3C soon that could tackle events, too. Not sure how gov-centric it needs to be.
There may be other vocab dev efforts at W3C soon that could tackle events, too. Not sure how gov-centric it needs to be. ←
18:33:33 <BernadetteHyland> Next up is Greg Williams, RDF Converter URIs and International Catalog
Bernadette Hyland: Next up is Greg Williams, RDF Converter URIs and International Catalog ←
18:34:38 <BartvanLeeuwen> off now back tommorow
Bart Leeuwen: off now back tommorow ←
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18:34:49 <Ansgar_Scherp> Events and places need each other, thus I liked that Todd mentioned them
Ansgar Scherp: Events and places need each other, thus I liked that Todd mentioned them ←
18:34:57 <sandro> Take care, Bart.
Take care, Bart. ←
18:37:17 <raphael_> LODE is a vocabulary for representing Linked Descriptions of Events, see http://linkedevents.org/ontology/
Raphaël Troncy: LODE is a vocabulary for representing Linked Descriptions of Events, see http://linkedevents.org/ontology/ ←
18:38:16 <raphael_> LODE has been recently adopted by the UK Archives hub, http://data.archiveshub.ac.uk/
Raphaël Troncy: LODE has been recently adopted by the UK Archives hub, http://data.archiveshub.ac.uk/ ←
18:38:52 <sandro> raphael, Bart (who was asking about that) just left....
raphael, Bart (who was asking about that) just left.... ←
18:52:56 <sandro> irene: I don't think getting data into RDF is *instead* of modeling.
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Irene Polikoff: I don't think getting data into RDF is *instead* of modeling. ←
18:53:10 <sandro> bern: Well, some people triplify their data and its still flat.
Bernadette Hyland: Well, some people triplify their data and its still flat. ←
18:54:06 <sandro> bobd: Once it's XML, you can use XSLT to clean it up. Once it's triples, you can use SPARQL, etc, to clean it up.
Bob DuCharme: Once it's XML, you can use XSLT to clean it up. Once it's triples, you can use SPARQL, etc, to clean it up. ←
18:54:30 <sandro> davidwood: RDF is doing research. There's no limit to how much we can figure out how better to do this.
David Wood: RDF is doing research. There's no limit to how much we can figure out how better to do this. ←
18:54:54 <sandro> gtw: We don't necessarily step over modeling, we just allow it.
Greg Williams: We don't necessarily step over modeling, we just allow it. ←
18:56:59 <sandro> topic: Bob DuCharme
18:57:08 <BernadetteHyland> Now on deck is Bob DuCharme on SKOS. He recently authored the O'Reilly publication "SPARQL"
Bernadette Hyland: Now on deck is Bob DuCharme on SKOS. He recently authored the O'Reilly publication "SPARQL" ←
18:57:28 <sandro> bobd: best practice 2 and 6 (legacy data) motivate our use of skos
Bob DuCharme: best practice 2 and 6 (legacy data) motivate our use of skos ←
18:59:48 <BernadetteHyland> To people with library science experience, using SKOS makes Linked Data much more approachable. First, controlled vocabularies, then taxonomies, thesauri and ontologies.
Bernadette Hyland: To people with library science experience, using SKOS makes Linked Data much more approachable. First, controlled vocabularies, then taxonomies, thesauri and ontologies. ←
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19:03:05 <sandro> bobd: Get by with just: prefLabel, broader, definition
Bob DuCharme: Get by with just: prefLabel, broader, definition ←
19:03:30 <sandro> bobd: also altLabel, related, note
Bob DuCharme: also altLabel, related, note ←
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19:04:49 <BernadetteHyland> Bob DuCharme: signature quote, "SKOS gives you 90-95% of what you need to get started with Linked Data, and it is very easy to add the last 5-10%"
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19:13:21 <sandro> topic: Add Some Info About Yourself To The WIki
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19:21:53 <sandro> topic: Charter Discussion
19:22:24 <sandro> Bern: looking at people taking ownership of deliverables
Bernadette Hyland: looking at people taking ownership of deliverables ←
19:23:04 <BernadetteHyland> Cory: Working on Vocabulary Management catalog effort for Data Architecture Subcommitee for USG CIO Counsel.
Unknown cory: Working on Vocabulary Management catalog effort for Data Architecture Subcommitee for USG CIO Counsel. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
19:23:37 <BernadetteHyland> Cory: W3C has more capacity to publish a standard than CIO DAS group.
Unknown cory: W3C has more capacity to publish a standard than CIO DAS group. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
19:28:44 <sandro> bern: controlled vocab for size.
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Bernadette Hyland: controlled vocab for size. ←
19:29:59 <sandro> size, years in business, contact info, website, ...
size, years in business, contact info, website, ... ←
19:30:34 <sandro> irene: focus on expertise in this area -- have you done projects in this area, how many, what size, how many people trained in this.
Irene Polikoff: focus on expertise in this area -- have you done projects in this area, how many, what size, how many people trained in this. ←
19:31:39 <sandro> pend: You'll want to know what contract vehicles are available
Michael Pendleton: You'll want to know what contract vehicles are available ←
19:32:07 <sandro> bern: Need inptuts from EU/UK on this, at least.
Bernadette Hyland: Need inptuts from EU/UK on this, at least. ←
19:32:39 <sandro> bern: What's important to know about deployments?
Bernadette Hyland: What's important to know about deployments? ←
19:32:50 <sandro> bern: Ernie?
Bernadette Hyland: Ernie? ←
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19:33:23 <sandro> bern: Sometimes we have leave out our company name.
Bernadette Hyland: Sometimes we have leave out our company name. ←
19:33:31 <sandro> davidwood: primes hiding their subs
David Wood: primes hiding their subs ←
19:34:04 <sandro> irene: how many users, how long has it been in production, ...
Irene Polikoff: how many users, how long has it been in production, ... ←
19:35:18 <sandro> sandro: Can 3rd parties enter the info?
Sandro Hawke: Can 3rd parties enter the info? ←
19:35:28 <sandro> .. if the agency doesnt want to
.. if the agency doesnt want to ←
19:36:01 <sandro> gt: Generally, yes, we can fill out the form about a particular project.
George Thomas: Generally, yes, we can fill out the form about a particular project. ←
19:36:30 <sandro> ernie: People may not want to advertise budget
Ernest Lucier: People may not want to advertise budget ←
19:36:38 <sandro> cory: $50m for 5 users, etc.
Unknown cory: $50m for 5 users, etc. ←
19:36:55 <sandro> bern: spending.gov
Bernadette Hyland: spending.gov ←
19:37:31 <sandro> gt: CCR example is a good angle on dogfood. Increasing visbility of fee-for-service = happy
George Thomas: CCR example is a good angle on dogfood. Increasing visbility of fee-for-service = happy ←
19:37:53 <sandro> chrism: Answer the incentive quesiton why folks would add to this.
Chris Musialek: Answer the incentive quesiton why folks would add to this. ←
19:38:09 <sandro> bern: simple, small is beautiful. eg "1 project happening at HHS"
Bernadette Hyland: simple, small is beautiful. eg "1 project happening at HHS" ←
19:38:45 <sandro> sandro: maybe keep it very simple, --- contact, title, domain
Sandro Hawke: maybe keep it very simple, --- contact, title, domain ←
19:38:47 <Ansgar_Scherp> usaspending.com?
Ansgar Scherp: usaspending.com? ←
19:39:05 <sandro> gt: ask if they made uris, used OWL, ....
George Thomas: ask if they made uris, used OWL, .... ←
19:39:17 <sandro> davidwood: ask for the URIs they minted!
David Wood: ask for the URIs they minted! ←
19:39:46 <sandro> folks dont want to be the first or the last
folks dont want to be the first or the last ←
19:40:14 <sandro> irene: It used to seem govt was on the leading edge here, but now it's falling behind, maybe?
Irene Polikoff: It used to seem govt was on the leading edge here, but now it's falling behind, maybe? ←
19:41:53 <sandro> sandro: ask how many stars they get, or the questions that lead to the stars.
Sandro Hawke: ask how many stars they get, or the questions that lead to the stars. ←
19:42:17 <sandro> cory: Do we want to have discussion/feedback area?
Unknown cory: Do we want to have discussion/feedback area? ←
19:42:51 <sandro> gt: Let's reduce changes to game the system.
George Thomas: Let's reduce changes to game the system. ←
19:43:11 <sandro> ernie: can't just ask one company to come in and talk -- level playing field.
Ernest Lucier: can't just ask one company to come in and talk -- level playing field. ←
19:43:24 <sandro> bern: directory isn't just w3c members.
Bernadette Hyland: directory isn't just w3c members. ←
19:45:54 <sandro> cory: vendor can list their projects
Unknown cory: vendor can list their projects ←
19:47:13 <BernadetteHyland> Dave Wood:It is easier to respond to abuse than to over engineer from the onset.
Bernadette Hyland: Dave Wood:It is easier to respond to abuse than to over engineer from the onset. ←
19:47:59 <sandro> sandro: CTIC directory of gov data uses journalistic coverage as sources, I believe.
Sandro Hawke: CTIC directory of gov data uses journalistic coverage as sources, I believe. ←
19:48:14 <BernadetteHyland> Bernadette: Suggest we have a current version of SWEO public use cases for deployments.
Bernadette Hyland: Suggest we have a current version of SWEO public use cases for deployments. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
19:48:58 <sandro> model on http://www.w3.org/2001/sweo/public/UseCases
model on http://www.w3.org/2001/sweo/public/UseCases ←
19:49:33 <sandro> irene: goal?
Irene Polikoff: goal? ←
19:49:53 <sandro> bern: folks playing with it want to take the next step
Bernadette Hyland: folks playing with it want to take the next step ←
19:51:09 <sandro> sandro: for finding out who should be in group and review our deliverables
Sandro Hawke: for finding out who should be in group and review our deliverables ←
19:51:24 <sandro> bobd: also for journalists and bloggers
Bob DuCharme: also for journalists and bloggers ←
19:51:54 <sandro> gt: Also for procurement. If none of their current contractors do this stuff, they might conclude no one does that stuff.
George Thomas: Also for procurement. If none of their current contractors do this stuff, they might conclude no one does that stuff. ←
19:52:12 <sandro> dwood: So what kind of info, within an agency would help you?
David Wood: So what kind of info, within an agency would help you? ←
19:52:45 <sandro> gt: as in UseCases page, "SW technolgoies used" -- tied in with Procurement deliverable
George Thomas: as in UseCases page, "SW technolgoies used" -- tied in with Procurement deliverable ←
19:53:19 <sandro> (something better than mailing semantic-web@w3.org)
(something better than mailing semantic-web@w3.org) ←
19:53:37 <sandro> cory: They only need to know who to send the RFP to.
Unknown cory: They only need to know who to send the RFP to. ←
19:54:23 <sandro> bern: veteran owned, small business, woman owned, etc.
Bernadette Hyland: veteran owned, small business, woman owned, etc. ←
19:55:20 <sandro> tina: Also for folks making the argument to management? I know vocabs is diff in the charter, but ... eg LoC looking at things done with law... so index by app domain.
Tina Gheen: Also for folks making the argument to management? I know vocabs is diff in the charter, but ... eg LoC looking at things done with law... so index by app domain. ←
19:55:45 <sandro> irene: govt only? there is eg WestLaw.
Irene Polikoff: govt only? there is eg WestLaw. ←
19:56:12 <sandro> tina: LoC expects their stuff to be used by WestLaw, Lexis-Nexis.
Tina Gheen: LoC expects their stuff to be used by WestLaw, Lexis-Nexis. ←
19:57:12 <sandro> bern: we heard LoC had a pro-open-source policy. "do you provide commercial support" "is there a floss version"
Bernadette Hyland: we heard LoC had a pro-open-source policy. "do you provide commercial support" "is there a floss version" ←
19:58:42 <sandro> davidw: It might make sense to have Deployments broken out into a site like the /UseCases site.
David Wood: It might make sense to have Deployments broken out into a site like the /UseCases site. ←
19:59:27 <sandro> sandro: some will be very short.
Sandro Hawke: some will be very short. ←
19:59:50 <sandro> sandro: I just dont want to set a high bar for use cases.
Sandro Hawke: I just dont want to set a high bar for use cases. ←
19:59:58 <sandro> gt: One Pager is VERY popular.
George Thomas: One Pager is VERY popular. ←
20:00:16 <sandro> sandro: your limit is 3 triples, and no literals.
Sandro Hawke: your limit is 3 triples, and no literals. ←
20:03:12 <sandro> ACTION: Brafford to draft wiki page from F2F1 discussion about community directory
ACTION: Brafford to draft wiki page from F2F1 discussion about community directory ←
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Greg Williams: Zakim, who is here? ←
20:24:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.703.292.aaaa, +49.261.287.aass
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.703.292.aaaa, +49.261.287.aass ←
20:24:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see JeremyCarroll, Ansgar_Scherp2, Yigal, BernadetteHyland, wbrafford, bkaempgen, cygri, DruidSmith, CoryCasanave, Zakim, RRSAgent, sandro, gtw, Ansgar_Scherp, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see JeremyCarroll, Ansgar_Scherp2, Yigal, BernadetteHyland, wbrafford, bkaempgen, cygri, DruidSmith, CoryCasanave, Zakim, RRSAgent, sandro, gtw, Ansgar_Scherp, trackbot ←
20:39:32 <Zakim> - +1.703.292.aaaa
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Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.703.292.aaaa ←
20:39:48 <Zakim> - +49.261.287.aass
Zakim IRC Bot: - +49.261.287.aass ←
20:39:49 <Zakim> SW_e-Gov(GLDWG)8:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_e-Gov(GLDWG)8:00AM has ended ←
20:39:51 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.703.292.aaaa, +1.240.228.aabb, +49.721.aacc, +1.303.773.aadd, +44.776.871.aaee, +1.757.604.aaff, Jeanne, martin, +1.202.409.aahh, +49.261.287.aaii, HadleyBeeman,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.703.292.aaaa, +1.240.228.aabb, +49.721.aacc, +1.303.773.aadd, +44.776.871.aaee, +1.757.604.aaff, Jeanne, martin, +1.202.409.aahh, +49.261.287.aaii, HadleyBeeman, ←
20:39:56 <Zakim> ... cygri, bkaempgen, BartVanLeeuwen, +1.303.773.aakk, +49.261.287.aall, +1.757.604.aamm, +49.261.287.aann, +49.261.287.aaoo, +1.303.988.aapp, +1.303.773.aaqq, +1.240.228.aarr,
Zakim IRC Bot: ... cygri, bkaempgen, BartVanLeeuwen, +1.303.773.aakk, +49.261.287.aall, +1.757.604.aamm, +49.261.287.aann, +49.261.287.aaoo, +1.303.988.aapp, +1.303.773.aaqq, +1.240.228.aarr, ←
20:39:59 <Zakim> ... +49.261.287.aass, +1.303.773.aatt
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +49.261.287.aass, +1.303.773.aatt ←
20:42:28 <sandro> RRSAgent, pointer?
RRSAgent, pointer? ←
20:42:28 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-gld-irc#T20-42-28
RRSAgent IRC Bot: See http://www.w3.org/2011/06/29-gld-irc#T20-42-28 ←
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