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eGovernment Interest Group

Minutes of 06 August 2012

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Brand Niemann, Ed Summers, Hadley Beeman, Nig Greenaway, Phil Archer, Tomasz Janowski, Unknown Laurence__, Unknown MikeThacker, Unknown kramw, Unknown lukasz, Unknown neeta, Unknown vivienne
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Tomasz Janowski
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Hadley Beeman
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07:47:13 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/08/06-egov-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/08/06-egov-irc

07:47:31 <PhilA> zakim, this will be egov

Phil Archer: zakim, this will be egov

07:47:31 <Zakim> ok, PhilA; I see T&S_EGOV(Eurasian)4:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, PhilA; I see T&S_EGOV(Eurasian)4:00AM scheduled to start in 13 minutes

07:47:48 <PhilA> chair: tomasz
07:48:31 <HadleyBeeman> sure :)

Hadley Beeman: sure :)

07:48:35 <HadleyBeeman> morning, phila

Hadley Beeman: morning, phila

07:48:52 <HadleyBeeman> sure, that's not a problem.

Hadley Beeman: sure, that's not a problem.

07:49:03 <HadleyBeeman> Give me a sec to consult bhylands fantastically prepared notes on scribing

Hadley Beeman: Give me a sec to consult bhylands fantastically prepared notes on scribing

07:50:19 <HadleyBeeman> rrsagent, make records public

Hadley Beeman: rrsagent, make records public

07:50:28 <HadleyBeeman> scribe: hadleybeeman

(Scribe set to Hadley Beeman)

07:52:28 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(Eurasian)4:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV(Eurasian)4:00AM has now started

07:52:35 <Zakim> +??P0

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P0

07:53:42 <kramw> Hi all, Mark Wainwright here from the Open Knowledge Fdn - just joined the group

Scribe problem: the name 'kramw' does not match any of the 104 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boris Villazón-Terrazas Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Hau David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler James Forrester Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'kramw' does not match any of the 104 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boris Villazón-Terrazas Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Hau David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler James Forrester Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown kramw: Hi all, Mark Wainwright here from the Open Knowledge Fdn - just joined the group

07:54:03 <kramw> Morning!

Scribe problem: the name 'kramw' does not match any of the 104 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boris Villazón-Terrazas Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Hau David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler James Forrester Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'kramw' does not match any of the 104 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boris Villazón-Terrazas Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Hau David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler James Forrester Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown kramw: Morning!

07:54:33 <kramw> Never used SIP before - have downloaded linphone but get some strange pulse noises. Any suggestions?

Scribe problem: the name 'kramw' does not match any of the 104 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boris Villazón-Terrazas Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Hau David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler James Forrester Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'kramw' does not match any of the 104 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boris Villazón-Terrazas Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Hau David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler James Forrester Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown kramw: Never used SIP before - have downloaded linphone but get some strange pulse noises. Any suggestions?

07:54:39 <kramw> HadleyBeeman: Cambridge, UK.

Scribe problem: the name 'kramw' does not match any of the 104 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boris Villazón-Terrazas Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Hau David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler James Forrester Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Hadley Beeman: Cambridge, UK. [ Scribe Assist by Unknown kramw ]

07:55:01 <Zakim> +??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3

07:55:04 <Zakim> + +91.11.24.36.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +91.11.24.36.aaaa

07:55:14 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?

zakim, who is here?

07:55:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, +91.11.24.36.aaaa, ??P3

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P0, +91.11.24.36.aaaa, ??P3

07:55:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see Brand, lukasz, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA, kramw, HadleyBeeman, thschee, agipap, tomasz, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Brand, lukasz, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA, kramw, HadleyBeeman, thschee, agipap, tomasz, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

07:56:23 <PhilA> zakim, code?

Phil Archer: zakim, code?

07:56:23 <Zakim> the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA

07:56:36 <Zakim> +??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1

07:56:39 <PhilA> zakim, ??P1 is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ??P1 is me

07:56:39 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA; got it

07:56:53 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?

zakim, who is here?

07:56:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P0, +91.11.24.36.aaaa, ??P3, PhilA

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P0, +91.11.24.36.aaaa, ??P3, PhilA

07:56:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see Brand, lukasz, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA, kramw, HadleyBeeman, thschee, agipap, tomasz, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Brand, lukasz, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA, kramw, HadleyBeeman, thschee, agipap, tomasz, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

07:57:07 <Zakim> + +8532871aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +8532871aabb

07:57:17 <PhilA> zakim, ??P0 is lukasz

Phil Archer: zakim, ??P0 is lukasz

07:57:17 <Zakim> +lukasz; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +lukasz; got it

07:57:20 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, ??P0

zakim, ??P0

07:57:20 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P0', HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '??P0', HadleyBeeman

07:57:29 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, ??P0 is me

zakim, ??P0 is me

07:57:29 <Zakim> I already had ??P0 as lukasz, HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P0 as lukasz, HadleyBeeman

07:57:51 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

07:57:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see lukasz, +91.11.24.36.aaaa, ??P3, PhilA, +8532871aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see lukasz, +91.11.24.36.aaaa, ??P3, PhilA, +8532871aabb

07:57:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see neeta, Brand, lukasz, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA, kramw, HadleyBeeman, thschee, agipap, tomasz, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see neeta, Brand, lukasz, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA, kramw, HadleyBeeman, thschee, agipap, tomasz, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

07:58:15 <Zakim> + +1.703.281.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.703.281.aacc

07:58:19 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, ??p3 is me

zakim, ??p3 is me

07:58:19 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman; got it

07:58:25 <Zakim> + +44.122.330.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.122.330.aadd

07:58:44 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaaa is neeta

zakim, aaaa is neeta

07:58:44 <Zakim> +neeta; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +neeta; got it

07:58:45 <Zakim> +??P8

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8

07:59:50 <Zakim> +??P9

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9

07:59:55 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aadd is kramw

zakim, aadd is kramw

07:59:55 <Zakim> +kramw; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +kramw; got it

08:00:02 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?

zakim, who is here?

08:00:03 <Zakim> + +44.786.783.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +44.786.783.aaee

08:00:03 <Zakim> On the phone I see lukasz, neeta, HadleyBeeman, PhilA, +8532871aabb, +1.703.281.aacc, kramw, ??P8, ??P9, +44.786.783.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see lukasz, neeta, HadleyBeeman, PhilA, +8532871aabb, +1.703.281.aacc, kramw, ??P8, ??P9, +44.786.783.aaee

08:00:03 <Zakim> On IRC I see NigGreenaway, neeta, Brand, lukasz, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA, kramw, HadleyBeeman, thschee, agipap, tomasz, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see NigGreenaway, neeta, Brand, lukasz, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA, kramw, HadleyBeeman, thschee, agipap, tomasz, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

08:00:51 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaee is niggreenaway

zakim, aaee is niggreenaway

08:00:51 <Zakim> +niggreenaway; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +niggreenaway; got it

08:01:19 <MikeThacker> Hello Mike Thacker from UK on IRC and voice

Scribe problem: the name 'MikeThacker' does not match any of the 104 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boris Villazón-Terrazas Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Hau David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler James Forrester Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'MikeThacker' does not match any of the 104 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boris Villazón-Terrazas Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Hau David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler James Forrester Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown MikeThacker: Hello Mike Thacker from UK on IRC and voice

08:01:27 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aacc is brand

zakim, aacc is brand

08:01:27 <Zakim> +brand; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +brand; got it

08:01:47 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here

zakim, who is here

08:01:47 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, you need to end that query with '?'

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, you need to end that query with '?'

08:01:47 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

08:01:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see lukasz, neeta, HadleyBeeman, PhilA, +8532871aabb, brand, kramw, ??P8, ??P9, niggreenaway

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see lukasz, neeta, HadleyBeeman, PhilA, +8532871aabb, brand, kramw, ??P8, ??P9, niggreenaway

08:01:48 <Zakim> On IRC I see MikeThacker, NigGreenaway, neeta, Brand, lukasz, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA, kramw, HadleyBeeman, thschee, agipap, tomasz, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see MikeThacker, NigGreenaway, neeta, Brand, lukasz, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA, kramw, HadleyBeeman, thschee, agipap, tomasz, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

08:04:09 <HadleyBeeman> topic: introductions

1. introductions

08:04:32 <Zakim> +??P10

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P10

08:04:58 <edsu> zakim, ??P10 is edsu

Ed Summers: zakim, ??P10 is edsu

08:04:58 <Zakim> +edsu; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +edsu; got it

08:05:39 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?

zakim, who is here?

08:05:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see lukasz, neeta, HadleyBeeman, PhilA, +8532871aabb, brand, kramw, ??P8, ??P9, niggreenaway, edsu

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see lukasz, neeta, HadleyBeeman, PhilA, +8532871aabb, brand, kramw, ??P8, ??P9, niggreenaway, edsu

08:05:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see edsu, MikeThacker, NigGreenaway, neeta, Brand, lukasz, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA, kramw, HadleyBeeman, thschee, agipap, tomasz, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see edsu, MikeThacker, NigGreenaway, neeta, Brand, lukasz, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA, kramw, HadleyBeeman, thschee, agipap, tomasz, bhyland, trackbot, sandro

08:06:13 <neeta> www.nic.in  national informatics centre

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Scribe problem: the name 'neeta' does not match any of the 104 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boris Villazón-Terrazas Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Hau David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler James Forrester Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown neeta: www.nic.in national informatics centre

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08:08:54 <HadleyBeeman> Agenda: +1-617-761-6200
08:09:10 <HadleyBeeman> s/+1-617-761-6200/http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/Main_Page
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08:10:28 <HadleyBeeman> Tomasz: We'll be looking at the use of social media by administrative and political systems, and who benefits. How to measure the benefits, account for the risks, processes and methods.  Experiences that exist throughout the world.

Tomasz Janowski: We'll be looking at the use of social media by administrative and political systems, and who benefits. How to measure the benefits, account for the risks, processes and methods. Experiences that exist throughout the world.

08:10:48 <HadleyBeeman> Topic: Webmonitoring in Groningen, Renske Stumpel, Municipality of Groningen, Netherlands

2. Webmonitoring in Groningen, Renske Stumpel, Municipality of Groningen, Netherlands

08:11:00 <HadleyBeeman> speaker absent

speaker absent

08:11:11 <HadleyBeeman> Topic:  Social Media Use by Government of India, Neeta Verma, National Informatics Center, India

3. Social Media Use by Government of India, Neeta Verma, National Informatics Center, India

08:12:04 <HadleyBeeman> Neeta:  Already have a reasonably good presence on social media sites, but use for government functions is quite low.  Picking up in the last 6 months.

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Unknown Neeta: Already have a reasonably good presence on social media sites, but use for government functions is quite low. Picking up in the last 6 months.

08:12:57 <HadleyBeeman> … How do you effectively manage the presence?  24/7 operations, fast responses, communicating at the level of the people there.

… How do you effectively manage the presence? 24/7 operations, fast responses, communicating at the level of the people there.

08:13:44 <HadleyBeeman> … In India we are exploring different models.  Credibility and effectiveness are the key concerns in taking these decisions.

… In India we are exploring different models. Credibility and effectiveness are the key concerns in taking these decisions.

08:14:13 <HadleyBeeman> … Motivation:  most common one is promotion (gov programme, policy, place, entity or specific people)

… Motivation: most common one is promotion (gov programme, policy, place, entity or specific people)

08:14:49 <HadleyBeeman> … Social, education, health, hygiene, personal safety.  Make people aware of things.

… Social, education, health, hygiene, personal safety. Make people aware of things.

08:15:42 <HadleyBeeman> … We have over 7000 gov websites; citizens won't visit them daily. We use social media to distribute these messages to people.

… We have over 7000 gov websites; citizens won't visit them daily. We use social media to distribute these messages to people.

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08:16:11 <edsu> PhilA++

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08:16:54 <HadleyBeeman> … public consultation: body called Planning Permission extensively used social media to call for submissions for proposals from planners, academics, etc for a 5 year plan (schemes, allocation of funds)

… public consultation: body called Planning Permission extensively used social media to call for submissions for proposals from planners, academics, etc for a 5 year plan (schemes, allocation of funds)

08:17:29 <HadleyBeeman> … Learning that put it there isn't enough.  You have to do a lot of outside promotion to get meaningful feedback.

… Learning that put it there isn't enough. You have to do a lot of outside promotion to get meaningful feedback.

08:17:54 <HadleyBeeman> … Big question:  How do we leverage this media to connect with these citizens?

… Big question: How do we leverage this media to connect with these citizens?

08:18:40 <HadleyBeeman> … How do we leverage this media to deliver public services?  Some experiments have been done in this.  Counting population (census)

… How do we leverage this media to deliver public services? Some experiments have been done in this. Counting population (census)

08:19:12 <HadleyBeeman> … The agencies used social media to explain when the teams would visit which villages to distribute the biometric cards for the census.

… The agencies used social media to explain when the teams would visit which villages to distribute the biometric cards for the census.

08:19:53 <HadleyBeeman> … The Post is a major media for people to communicate (letters, sending money, etc).  They are active on Twitter to support users.

… The Post is a major media for people to communicate (letters, sending money, etc). They are active on Twitter to support users.

08:20:36 <HadleyBeeman> … Multilanguages:  Facebook pages are in Hindi but also translated into multiple other languages.

… Multilanguages: Facebook pages are in Hindi but also translated into multiple other languages.

08:21:34 <HadleyBeeman> … The Passport Service helps people on Twitter with documents, delayed deliveries, status of passport applicaiton, etc.

… The Passport Service helps people on Twitter with documents, delayed deliveries, status of passport applicaiton, etc.

08:21:50 <HadleyBeeman> … We mostly use Facebook, Youtube, Flickr and Twitter.

… We mostly use Facebook, Youtube, Flickr and Twitter.

08:22:28 <HadleyBeeman> … We have three tiers of gov:  central government, state governments (35 independent) and district administrations, and village-level government

… We have three tiers of gov: central government, state governments (35 independent) and district administrations, and village-level government

08:23:20 <HadleyBeeman> … These tiers are using social media.  Our new president updated the facebook and youtube pages by the second day in office.  Cabinet-level ministers also have a presence on these pages.  Primarily to connect to citizens, get input.

… These tiers are using social media. Our new president updated the facebook and youtube pages by the second day in office. Cabinet-level ministers also have a presence on these pages. Primarily to connect to citizens, get input.

08:24:17 <Laurence__> Who is allowed to post to the agency Facebook or Twitter account?

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Unknown Laurence__: Who is allowed to post to the agency Facebook or Twitter account?

08:24:33 <PhilA> q+ Laurence__

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08:24:45 <HadleyBeeman> … Announcements about traffic jams, traffic violations.

… Announcements about traffic jams, traffic violations.

08:25:52 <HadleyBeeman> … Central/Federal government: foreign relations have been using social media to make announcements, issue press releases (Indian south side visa information, info for visitors)

… Central/Federal government: foreign relations have been using social media to make announcements, issue press releases (Indian south side visa information, info for visitors)

08:26:24 <HadleyBeeman> …  Dept of Finance:  gather comments at budget time.  Initially just on their own website, now on Facebook too

… Dept of Finance: gather comments at budget time. Initially just on their own website, now on Facebook too

08:27:12 <HadleyBeeman> … State governments:  using social media for promotion, awareness, public notices for a particular locality.  Information sharing.

… State governments: using social media for promotion, awareness, public notices for a particular locality. Information sharing.

08:27:56 <HadleyBeeman> … Tourism corporations:  promotion of various places for tourists.  State of ? is integrating their website with social media places.

… Tourism corporations: promotion of various places for tourists. State of Kerula is integrating their website with social media places.

08:28:55 <PhilA> s/ State of ?/ State of Kerula/
08:28:59 <tomasz> Is there evidence that the government is listening in a systematic way to social media inputs to inform decisions?

Tomasz Janowski: Is there evidence that the government is listening in a systematic way to social media inputs to inform decisions?

08:29:03 <HadleyBeeman> … Some organisations begin with a lot of enthusiasm but can't sustain it.  Possible reasons: no institutional arrangement for ongoing work, may have been campaign-driven.

… Some organisations begin with a lot of enthusiasm but can't sustain it. Possible reasons: no institutional arrangement for ongoing work, may have been campaign-driven.

08:30:14 <HadleyBeeman> … Department for IT has formulated guidelines for the use of social media.  Neeta will post the URL here

… Department for IT has formulated guidelines for the use of social media. Neeta will post the URL here

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08:31:20 <HadleyBeeman> Neeta: (response to Laurence__ ) It's primarily a government representative who is allowed to post.

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Unknown Neeta: (response to Laurence__ ) It's primarily a government representative who is allowed to post.

08:32:25 <HadleyBeeman> … Ex:  taking input on people affected by traffic violations

… Ex: taking input on people affected by traffic violations

08:32:43 <HadleyBeeman> … Ex:  Department of Post

… Ex: Department of Post

08:33:14 <HadleyBeeman> … Ex:  Passport Service. (examples as above)

… Ex: Passport Service. (examples as above)

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08:34:54 <Laurence__> P11 Laurence

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Scribe problem: the name 'Laurence__' does not match any of the 104 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boris Villazón-Terrazas Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Hau David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler James Forrester Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

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08:35:15 <HadleyBeeman> Neeta:  (response to tomasz) Delhi police have a complete department, recording input with analytics.  Also other groups may be watching the media, but nothing officially shared.

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Unknown Neeta: (response to tomasz) Delhi police have a complete department, recording input with analytics. Also other groups may be watching the media, but nothing officially shared.

08:35:56 <HadleyBeeman> Topic: Using Social Media for Data Science and Journalism, Brand Niemann, Semantic Community

4. Using Social Media for Data Science and Journalism, Brand Niemann, Semantic Community

08:36:02 <PhilA> slides are linked from the Wiki

Phil Archer: slides are linked from the Wiki

08:36:05 <HadleyBeeman> slides: www.w3.org/2012/08/BrandNiemann08062012.pdf

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Unknown slides: www.w3.org/2012/08/BrandNiemann08062012.pdf

08:36:18 <Laurence__> Big praise for Brand getting up at 4am!

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Unknown Laurence__: Big praise for Brand getting up at 4am!

08:38:51 <HadleyBeeman> Brand: Data science and data journalism.  Best example:  the Guardian, Simon Rogers.  Using Drupal and Google Spreadsheets.

Brand Niemann: Data science and data journalism. Best example: the Guardian, Simon Rogers. Using Drupal and Google Spreadsheets.

08:40:37 <HadleyBeeman> … The Guardian created a tremendous amount of interest with Wikileaks data.  That's what we're trying to do with government data.

… The Guardian created a tremendous amount of interest with Wikileaks data. That's what we're trying to do with government data.

08:42:36 <HadleyBeeman> … Key in data journalism: modelling and visualisation.  Uses MindTouch for the Data Journalism Handbook.

… Key in data journalism: modelling and visualisation. Uses MindTouch for the Data Journalism Handbook.

08:44:42 <HadleyBeeman> … I use a 5 step process: 1. Build knowledge base in MindTouch, 2. build indices in Excel,  3. precondition the structured data, 4. import into Spotfire, 5. write the story

… I use a 5 step process: 1. Build knowledge base in MindTouch, 2. build indices in Excel, 3. precondition the structured data, 4. import into Spotfire, 5. write the story

08:46:27 <PhilA> Slide 9 shows the table

Phil Archer: Slide 9 shows the table

08:47:02 <HadleyBeeman> … Highlights a problem:  the data in this Guardian example (about their data journalism) doesn't match the table representation of it, nor the article about it.

… Highlights a problem: the data in this Guardian example (about their data journalism) doesn't match the table representation of it, nor the article about it.

08:47:28 <PhilA> Now on slide 14

Phil Archer: Now on slide 14

08:47:50 <PhilA> Oh, sorry, I'm jumping ahead, stick with 11 :-(

Phil Archer: Oh, sorry, I'm jumping ahead, stick with 11 :-(

08:47:53 <HadleyBeeman> … Sometimes the data isn't published at all

… Sometimes the data isn't published at all

08:48:08 <HadleyBeeman> q+

q+

08:49:31 <HadleyBeeman> … Example of the Digital Agenda for Europe and European debt web

… Example of the Digital Agenda for Europe and European debt web

08:50:32 <HadleyBeeman> … Example: encouraged Eric Busboom of Clarinova to grow his business by asking investors to help provide data science and data scientists.

… Example: encouraged Eric Busboom of Clarinova to grow his business by asking investors to help provide data science and data scientists.

08:50:47 <PhilA> ack HadleyBeeman

Phil Archer: ack HadleyBeeman

08:51:03 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: You talked about creating a Knowledge Base - what exactly do you mean by that?

Hadley Beeman: You talked about creating a Knowledge Base - what exactly do you mean by that? [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

08:51:48 <PhilA> Brand: Yes, 2 ways. A Netherlands tool, Be Informed, uses a lot of Sem Web tool. In my case I use MindTool to create structure from unstructured data

Brand Niemann: Yes, 2 ways. A Netherlands tool, Be Informed, uses a lot of Sem Web tool. In my case I use MindTool to create structure from unstructured data [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

08:52:09 <PhilA> ... benefit is the matching of structured and unstructured data

Phil Archer: ... benefit is the matching of structured and unstructured data

08:52:46 <HadleyBeeman> Tomasz:  Which standardisation from W3C do you see enabling data science and data journalism?

Tomasz Janowski: Which standardisation from W3C do you see enabling data science and data journalism?

08:53:58 <HadleyBeeman> Brand:  I've explored it with OASIS and OMG, but not W3C.  OMG have started a new smart data coalition who are focused on results with data, business cases with examples, before standards work.  OASIS are just starting to think about it.

Brand Niemann: I've explored it with OASIS and OMG, but not W3C. OMG have started a new smart data coalition who are focused on results with data, business cases with examples, before standards work. OASIS are just starting to think about it.

08:54:29 <HadleyBeeman> Brand:  the Intelligence community is just starting to explore the role of data journalism for intel analysts as well.

Brand Niemann: the Intelligence community is just starting to explore the role of data journalism for intel analysts as well.

08:55:16 <HadleyBeeman> Lawrence__:  Looked at O'Reilly's 7 most powerful data scientists, as mentioned by Brand. They're all American.  Any comments on the US/UK role internationally?

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Unknown Lawrence__: Looked at O'Reilly's 7 most powerful data scientists, as mentioned by Brand. They're all American. Any comments on the US/UK role internationally?

08:56:14 <HadleyBeeman> Brand:  Best merging of data scientist of data journalism seems to be at the Guardian.  Transition for print press to electronic journalism to survive. We hope to emulate that at AOL Goverment.

Brand Niemann: Best merging of data scientist of data journalism seems to be at the Guardian. Transition for print press to electronic journalism to survive. We hope to emulate that at AOL Goverment.

08:56:55 <HadleyBeeman> Topic: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/f/ff/Presentation-Lukasz.pdf, Lukasz Porwol, DERI, Ireland

5. http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/f/ff/Presentation-Lukasz.pdf, Lukasz Porwol, DERI, Ireland

08:57:05 <HadleyBeeman> slides: www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/f/ff/Presentation-Lukasz.pdf

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Unknown slides: www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/f/ff/Presentation-Lukasz.pdf

08:57:30 <PhilA> lukasz: is from http://www.deri.ie/

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Unknown lukasz: is from http://www.deri.ie/ [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

08:57:53 <Brand> Work for US Intelligence Community: http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/Semantics_and_Ontologies_for_the_Intelligence_Community_Working_Toward_Standards/STIDS_2012

Brand Niemann: Work for US Intelligence Community: http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/Semantics_and_Ontologies_for_the_Intelligence_Community_Working_Toward_Standards/STIDS_2012

08:58:10 <HadleyBeeman> Topic: eParticipation and Transport Management: Galway TF

6. eParticipation and Transport Management: Galway TF

08:58:43 <HadleyBeeman> lukasz: Initiative begun with strategic, public issue about traffic load.

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Unknown lukasz: Initiative begun with strategic, public issue about traffic load.

08:59:33 <HadleyBeeman> Lukasz: Main objective: identify the short-term measures to address the traffic difficulties.  Approach: crowdsource input.  Ask citizens what the problems were and how to fix them.

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Unknown Lukasz: Main objective: identify the short-term measures to address the traffic difficulties. Approach: crowdsource input. Ask citizens what the problems were and how to fix them.

09:00:24 <HadleyBeeman> ... Step 1.  Stakeholder engagement, across a variety of citizens.

... Step 1. Stakeholder engagement, across a variety of citizens.

09:00:55 <HadleyBeeman> … and media.

… and media.

09:01:50 <HadleyBeeman> … and local gov, Galway Chamber of commerce, Galway Transport Unit, local business like Engineers Ireland West, academia, domain experts in civil engineering, citizens.

… and local gov, Galway Chamber of commerce, Galway Transport Unit, local business like Engineers Ireland West, academia, domain experts in civil engineering, citizens.

09:01:57 <Zakim> -??P9

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P9

09:02:01 <Zakim> + +6038995aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +6038995aaff

09:03:18 <HadleyBeeman> … Step 2. eParticipation:  design of a web platform.  Requirements designed with stakeholders.  Digital participation and  offline participation to include the digitally excluded who aren't online.

… Step 2. eParticipation: design of a web platform. Requirements designed with stakeholders. Digital participation and offline (classic) participation to include the digitally excluded who aren't online.

09:03:45 <HadleyBeeman> s/offline/offline (classic)
09:04:14 <HadleyBeeman> … Used Facebook and Twitter to attract as many citizens as possible

… Used Facebook and Twitter to attract as many citizens as possible

09:05:09 <HadleyBeeman> … Step 3.  Service management:  respond immediately to comments posted.  Encourage people to contribute by demonstrating that their input is taken seriously. Traditional media (radio etc) were helpful to disseminate the message.

… Step 3. Service management: respond immediately to comments posted. Encourage people to contribute by demonstrating that their input is taken seriously. Traditional media (radio etc) were helpful to disseminate the message.

09:06:08 <HadleyBeeman> Step 4.  Political process:  People felt included and participated.  We reached the complete stakeholder set (2500 people targetted out of 76000 residents)

... Step 4. Political process: People felt included and participated. We reached the complete stakeholder set (2500 people targetted out of 76000 residents)

09:06:31 <HadleyBeeman> s/Step 4/... Step 4
09:07:15 <HadleyBeeman> … We are in the process of compiling the feedback. We want to create a second loop by providing feedback to the cities.

… We are in the process of compiling the feedback. We want to create a second loop by providing feedback to the cities.

09:07:18 <Zakim> +??P9

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9

09:07:25 <vivienne> zakim, ??P9 is vivienne

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Unknown vivienne: zakim, ??P9 is vivienne

09:07:25 <Zakim> +vivienne; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +vivienne; got it

09:08:01 <HadleyBeeman> … Most of the social media traffic was generated by the newspapers and the radio, from their own social media presences.

… Most of the social media traffic was generated by the newspapers and the radio, from their own social media presences.

09:08:14 <vivienne> zakim, mute me

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Unknown vivienne: zakim, mute me

09:08:14 <Zakim> vivienne should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: vivienne should now be muted

09:08:41 <PhilA> Interesting that trad media use social media to disseminate their stories about what DERI put on social media

Phil Archer: Interesting that trad media use social media to disseminate their stories about what DERI put on social media

09:09:19 <HadleyBeeman> … Conclusion:  this ran well locally, because we could bring all the stakeholders together.  We were contacted by university students in Scotland, who wanted to apply a similar approach to Edinburgh.

… Conclusion: this ran well locally, because we could bring all the stakeholders together. We were contacted by university students in Scotland, who wanted to apply a similar approach to Edinburgh.

09:10:46 <HadleyBeeman> … Next steps:  Since our own Facebook and Twitter accounts didn't generate much traffic, we would want to integrate more closely with them to investigate it further.  Semantic technologies to manage the data (comments) so the decision makers could provide fast feedback.

… Next steps: Since our own Facebook and Twitter accounts didn't generate much traffic, we would want to integrate more closely with them to investigate it further. Semantic technologies to manage the data (comments) so the decision makers could provide fast feedback.

09:10:59 <HadleyBeeman> … Fewer channels may be more successful.

… Fewer channels may be more successful.

09:11:42 <HadleyBeeman> Elsa: What type of tools did you use to find meaning in the 78000 Facebook impressions?

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Unknown Elsa: What type of tools did you use to find meaning in the 78000 Facebook impressions?

09:12:07 <HadleyBeeman> Lukasz:  I used the free standard Facebook tools, similar to Google statistics.

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Unknown Lukasz: I used the free standard Facebook tools, similar to Google statistics.

09:13:32 <HadleyBeeman> … Also, to add:  we collected the feedback, but how to push decision makers to respond?  There is no formal way for this to happen.

… Also, to add: we collected the feedback, but how to push decision makers to respond? There is no formal way for this to happen.

09:13:35 <PhilA> lukasz: Call an election? That gets them listenting...

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Unknown lukasz: Call an election? That gets them listenting... [ Scribe Assist by Phil Archer ]

09:13:53 <HadleyBeeman> Topic: http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/0/0e/Singapore_eGovernment_%26_eEngagement_W3C_06_Aug_2012.pdf, Lark Yang TAN, IDA International, Singapore

7. http://www.w3.org/egov/wiki/images/0/0e/Singapore_eGovernment_%26_eEngagement_W3C_06_Aug_2012.pdf, Lark Yang TAN, IDA International, Singapore

09:16:22 <PhilA> Singapore main gov portal is http://www.gov.sg/ and gets used a lot

Phil Archer: Singapore main gov portal is http://www.gov.sg/ and gets used a lot

09:16:26 <HadleyBeeman> Lark:  www.gov.sg - the Singapore official electronic communication platform.  Information, ways to communicate with people on the key news, changes in the government, new policies.

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Unknown Lark: www.gov.sg - the Singapore official electronic communication platform. Information, ways to communicate with people on the key news, changes in the government, new policies.

09:17:29 <HadleyBeeman> … We conduct 2 annual surveys:  the Survey on Business and the e-Government Customer Perception Survey.

… We conduct 2 annual surveys: the Survey on Business and the e-Government Customer Perception Survey.

09:17:59 <HadleyBeeman> … 97% of businesses choose to conduct their transactions with government electronically

… 97% of businesses choose to conduct their transactions with government electronically

09:18:28 <HadleyBeeman> … E-engagement is therefore not entirely new.  But the feedback mechanism from the public to the government is.

… E-engagement is therefore not entirely new. But the feedback mechanism from the public to the government is.

09:19:14 <HadleyBeeman> … Motivations:  social economic and benefits to the people.

… Motivations: social economic and benefits to the people.

09:20:05 <HadleyBeeman> … REACH: Reaching everybody for an active citizenry at home.  Government unit to engage and connect with citizens — traditional means and the e-platform.

… REACH: Reaching everybody for an active citizenry at home. Government unit to engage and connect with citizens — traditional means and the e-platform.

09:21:24 <HadleyBeeman> … Now, we can get almost real-time sentiment from the web.  Used to take months or more to reach the upper echelons of government and the response with similarly take months to implement.  This is transforming the speed.  Also a challenge to government to meet that speed.

… Now, we can get almost real-time sentiment from the web. Used to take months or more to reach the upper echelons of government and the response with similarly take months to implement. This is transforming the speed. Also a challenge to government to meet that speed.

09:21:33 <edsu> nice point re: importance of real-time

Ed Summers: nice point re: importance of real-time

09:21:49 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to edsu

+1 to edsu

09:22:25 <HadleyBeeman> Lark:  Have taken into consideration evidence that adoption of these technologies is high.

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Unknown Lark: Have taken into consideration evidence that adoption of these technologies is high.

09:23:15 <HadleyBeeman> … Facebook, Twitter, etc. — we have virtually no control.  We have embraced that, supplemented with some of our own platforms to send those messages.

… Facebook, Twitter, etc. — we have virtually no control. We have embraced that, supplemented with some of our own platforms to send those messages.

09:24:05 <HadleyBeeman> …  Key: don't forgo traditional communication (telephone).  Embrace them with the new media (incl forms, podcasts, videocasts, blogs, etc)

… Key: don't forgo traditional communication (telephone). Embrace them with the new media (incl forms, podcasts, videocasts, blogs, etc)

09:24:59 <HadleyBeeman> … We have added in e-consultation papers, reaching a younger, more network and more international group than

… We have added in e-consultation papers, reaching a younger, more network and more international group than

09:25:04 <HadleyBeeman> … before.

… before.

09:26:26 <HadleyBeeman> …  We engage on daily issues, gather feedback through "likes" on Facebook, create microsites for follow-ons by the respective agencies.

… We engage on daily issues, gather feedback through "likes" on Facebook, create microsites for follow-ons by the respective agencies.

09:26:28 <Zakim> -neeta

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09:27:16 <HadleyBeeman> …  Youthvibes.sg is specifically aimed at gathering feedback from youth, to distribute it to the appropriate agency

… Youthvibes.sg is specifically aimed at gathering feedback from youth, to distribute it to the appropriate agency

09:28:42 <HadleyBeeman> … Lessons learnt:  feedback comes fast and furious.  Good tool to keep you relevant to the people, increase the public's satisfaction with their government's efforts for the benefit of society.

… Lessons learnt: feedback comes fast and furious. Good tool to keep you relevant to the people, increase the public's satisfaction with their government's efforts for the benefit of society.

09:29:57 <Brand> Knowledge Base: http://semanticommunity.info/Be_Informed_4 and new slides at end of http://semanticommunity.info/@api/deki/files/18968/BrandNiemann08062012.pptx

Brand Niemann: Knowledge Base: http://semanticommunity.info/Be_Informed_4 and new slides at end of http://semanticommunity.info/@api/deki/files/18968/BrandNiemann08062012.pptx

09:30:01 <HadleyBeeman> … We are also opening up non-sensitive data on data.gov.sg

… We are also opening up non-sensitive data on data.gov.sg

09:32:12 <HadleyBeeman> Tomasz:  Is there evidence that social media contributions are taken into account in government decision making in Singapore?

Tomasz Janowski: Is there evidence that social media contributions are taken into account in government decision making in Singapore?

09:33:03 <PhilA> rrsagent, draft minutes

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09:33:12 <HadleyBeeman> Lark:  Yes.  All key gov agencies in Singapore have a quality feedback manager, who will go through this feedback and ensure they are being addressed and replied to.  "No wrong door"  policy

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Unknown Lark: Yes. All key gov agencies in Singapore have a quality feedback manager, who will go through this feedback and ensure they are being addressed and replied to. "No wrong door" policy

09:33:36 <Brand> Knowledge Base for recent 2012 OGDC: http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/2012_International_Open_Government_Data_Conference

Brand Niemann: Knowledge Base for recent 2012 OGDC: http://semanticommunity.info/AOL_Government/2012_International_Open_Government_Data_Conference

09:33:55 <HadleyBeeman> Thanks, Brand, for the follow-up points.  Appreciated!

Thanks, Brand, for the follow-up points. Appreciated!

09:34:05 <PhilA> rrsagent, generate minutes

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09:34:16 <PhilA> Thanks to Hadley - hard session to scribe

Phil Archer: Thanks to Hadley - hard session to scribe

09:34:29 <edsu> :-)

Ed Summers: :-)

09:34:37 <PhilA> Yes, Jeanne is now in Gale Crater and tweeting live

Phil Archer: Yes, Jeanne is now in Gale Crater and tweeting live

09:34:46 <vivienne> bye

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Unknown vivienne: bye

09:34:48 <Zakim> -brand

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09:34:57 <lukasz> Thanks a million!

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Scribe problem: the name 'lukasz' does not match any of the 104 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alan Doniger Aldo Gangemi Allison Hornery Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Asunción Gómez Pérez Bede McCall Boris Villazón-Terrazas Boubacar FOUMEKOYE Brand Niemann Brian Gryth Brian Handspicker Chingteng Hsiao Chris Backert Chris Beer Christopher Testa Cory Casanave Dalila Chiadmi Daniel Bennett Dave McAllister David Hau David James David Norheim Deirdre Lee Dickson Lukose Don Brutzman Doug Schepers Ed Summers Eric VonColln Eyal Sela Fadi Maali Gannon Dick George Thomas Hadley Beeman Hatem Ben Yacoub Hugh Glaser Jamal Shahin James Hendler James Forrester Javier de la Cueva Jeanne Holm Jeremiah Albrant John Geraghty John Speakman John Sheridan John Erickson Jon Phipps Jonathan Gray José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kurt Voelker Laila Benhlima Li Ding Luigi Selmi Malcolm Crompton Maria Fernandez Ruiz Mark Wainwright Martin Kliehm Martín Álvarez Michael Aisenberg Michael Cokus Michael Hausenblas Miguel Amutio Mike Bergman Mohamed ZERGAOUI Nig Greenaway Oscar Azanon Esteire Paola Di Maio Pasquale Popolizio Phil Archer Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Rafael Serrano Raid Zaghloul Richard Murphy Richard Cyganiak Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Sandro Hawke Sergey Lizin Sharron Rush Somnath Chandra Sonitha Aniruth Stasinos Konstantopoulos Steve Harris Swaran Lata Sylvia Webb Tanya Gupta Ted Thibodeau Thomas Bandholtz Thomas Roessler Tom van Engers Tomasz Janowski Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras William Cunningham Yosuke Funahashi Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown lukasz: Thanks a million!

09:34:57 <Zakim> - +6038995aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: - +6038995aaff

09:35:03 <Zakim> -lukasz

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Zakim IRC Bot: -lukasz

09:35:12 <HadleyBeeman> phila, are you happy sorting the minutes?

phila, are you happy sorting the minutes?

09:35:19 <PhilA> Yes, I'll do that

Phil Archer: Yes, I'll do that

09:35:23 <PhilA> Thanks again

Phil Archer: Thanks again

09:35:25 <HadleyBeeman> great, thanks. :)

great, thanks. :)

09:35:33 <HadleyBeeman> No problem;  it was a good session.  Hope all's well with you!

No problem; it was a good session. Hope all's well with you!

09:35:35 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

09:35:40 <HadleyBeeman> have a great Monday, all!

have a great Monday, all!

09:36:05 <HadleyBeeman> :) Enjoy.  I'm sure it's very well deserved!

:) Enjoy. I'm sure it's very well deserved!

09:36:20 <PhilA> rrsagent, generate minutes

Phil Archer: rrsagent, generate minutes

09:36:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/06-egov-minutes.html PhilA

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/06-egov-minutes.html PhilA

09:40:36 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, vivienne, in T&S_EGOV(Eurasian)4:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: disconnecting the lone participant, vivienne, in T&S_EGOV(Eurasian)4:00AM

09:40:38 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(Eurasian)4:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV(Eurasian)4:00AM has ended

09:40:38 <Zakim> Attendees were +91.11.24.36.aaaa, PhilA, +8532871aabb, lukasz, +1.703.281.aacc, HadleyBeeman, +44.122.330.aadd, neeta, kramw, +44.786.783.aaee, niggreenaway, brand, edsu,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +91.11.24.36.aaaa, PhilA, +8532871aabb, lukasz, +1.703.281.aacc, HadleyBeeman, +44.122.330.aadd, neeta, kramw, +44.786.783.aaee, niggreenaway, brand, edsu,

09:40:38 <Zakim> ... +6038995aaff, vivienne

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +6038995aaff, vivienne

09:46:51 <PhilA> rrsagent, generate minutes

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Phil Archer: rrsagent, generate minutes

09:46:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/06-egov-minutes.html PhilA

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/08/06-egov-minutes.html PhilA



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