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Problems with the conference call system
Sandro apologizes for the system not being set up correctly. Folks wait around while it gets corrected to allow more than ten people on the call.
Main Presentation: Linked Data API
Dave Reynolds and Jeni Tennison present a system for exposing the data available in SPARQL endpoints in ways which make them much easier to use for non-RDF-experts.
<sandro> Guest: Dave Reynolds
<sandro> Guest: Ivan Herman
<sandro> Guest: Jeni (JeniT) Tennison, http://www.jenitennison.com
<sandro> Guest: Dan (danbri) Brickley
<sandro> Guest: Juan Sequeda
<sandro> Guest: Kate Geyer
<sandro> Guest: Laurent (laurent_lefort_cs) LeFort
<sandro> Guest: Oly Erickson
<sandro> Guest: Libby Miller
<sandro> Guest: Tom M
<sandro> Present: hausenblas, sandro, chris_beer, owen, brand, cory, bennett, edsu, sheridan, martinspain, flagg, cygri, brian
<sandro> Scribe: hausenblas
(Scribe set to Michael Hausenblas)
<sandro> topic: Problems with the conference call system
Summary: Sandro apologizes for the system not being set up correctly. Folks wait around while it gets corrected to allow more than ten people on the call.
<sandro> summary: Sandro apologizes for the system not being set up correctly. Folks wait around while it gets corrected to allow more than ten people on the call.
12:55:51 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-irc ←
12:55:59 <sandro> zakim, this will be egov
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this will be egov ←
12:55:59 <Zakim> ok, sandro, I see T&S_EGOV(DMngmnt)8:00AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, sandro, I see T&S_EGOV(DMngmnt)8:00AM already started ←
12:56:10 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
12:56:10 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P8
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P8 ←
12:56:27 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
12:56:38 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
12:56:38 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made ←
12:56:40 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
12:58:00 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas ←
12:58:23 <Zakim> +??P11
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P11 ←
12:58:30 <Zakim> + +0203334aaaa - is perhaps John
Zakim IRC Bot: + +0203334aaaa - is perhaps John ←
12:58:43 <Zakim> + +1.865.576.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.865.576.aabb ←
12:58:45 <juansequeda> zakim, ??P11 is me
Juan Sequeda: zakim, ??P11 is me ←
12:58:45 <Zakim> +juansequeda; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +juansequeda; got it ←
12:59:15 <Zakim> + +1.617.752.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.752.aacc ←
12:59:20 <JeniT> http://www.epimorphics.com/public/presentations/ldapi/egov-presentation.html#(1)
Jeni Tennison: http://www.epimorphics.com/public/presentations/ldapi/egov-presentation.html#(1) ←
12:59:20 <Zakim> + +1.614.692.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.614.692.aadd ←
12:59:26 <Zakim> + +1.404.314.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.404.314.aaee ←
12:59:36 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
12:59:36 <Zakim> On the phone I see DaveReynolds, Sandro, Ivan, mhausenblas, juansequeda, John, +1.865.576.aabb, +1.617.752.aacc, +1.614.692.aadd, +1.404.314.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DaveReynolds, Sandro, Ivan, mhausenblas, juansequeda, John, +1.865.576.aabb, +1.617.752.aacc, +1.614.692.aadd, +1.404.314.aaee ←
12:59:50 <JeniT> I'm on the same line as John
Jeni Tennison: I'm on the same line as John ←
13:00:28 <TomM> Conference call is full
Tom M: Conference call is full ←
13:00:54 <sandro> checkiing on it TomM
Sandro Hawke: checkiing on it TomM ←
13:01:05 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:01:05 <Zakim> On the phone I see DaveReynolds, Sandro, Ivan, mhausenblas, juansequeda, John, +1.865.576.aabb, +1.617.752.aacc, +1.614.692.aadd, +1.404.314.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see DaveReynolds, Sandro, Ivan, mhausenblas, juansequeda, John, +1.865.576.aabb, +1.617.752.aacc, +1.614.692.aadd, +1.404.314.aaee ←
13:01:40 <TomM> thx
Tom M: thx ←
13:03:04 <DaveReynolds> @olyerickson asked about streaming audio ... maybe another time :)
Dave Reynolds: @olyerickson asked about streaming audio ... maybe another time :) ←
13:04:02 <TomM> now conference is restricted...
Tom M: now conference is restricted... ←
13:04:11 <sandro> still working on it! sorry!
Sandro Hawke: still working on it! sorry! ←
13:04:17 <TomM> thx
Tom M: thx ←
13:06:09 <sandro> yeah. :-(
Sandro Hawke: yeah. :-( ←
13:06:29 <sandro> I'm so sorry everyone. I thought this was set up properly.
Sandro Hawke: I'm so sorry everyone. I thought this was set up properly. ←
13:06:36 <sandro> Hopefully just another minute or two.
Sandro Hawke: Hopefully just another minute or two. ←
13:06:37 <Cory> Ok, I get back in the loop andd the loop is closed!
Cory Casanave: Ok, I get back in the loop andd the loop is closed! ←
13:06:49 <edsu> sandro: no worries, it's a good problem to have imho :-)
Sandro Hawke: no worries, it's a good problem to have imho :-) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
13:07:11 <juansequeda> mhausenblas, really? I was expecting this :)
Juan Sequeda: mhausenblas, really? I was expecting this :) ←
13:07:30 <Cory> I can set up a gotowebinar
Cory Casanave: I can set up a gotowebinar ←
13:08:46 <edsu> anyone know how many people are on the call? (that aren't in irc)
Ed Summers: anyone know how many people are on the call? (that aren't in irc) ←
13:09:52 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is with mhausenblas
Zakim, cygri is with mhausenblas ←
13:09:52 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it ←
13:10:05 <sandro> Yeah, 10. People with w3c member access can see the list of all bridge users here: http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html
Sandro Hawke: Yeah, 10. People with w3c member access can see the list of all bridge users here: http://www.w3.org/1998/12/bridge/Zakim.html ←
13:10:12 <johnlsheridan> how will we know when we can start?
John Sheridan: how will we know when we can start? ←
13:10:34 <johnlsheridan> ok
John Sheridan: ok ←
13:10:49 <johnlsheridan> I think it might suit JeniT
John Sheridan: I think it might suit JeniT ←
13:10:50 <JeniT> Suits me. I hate talking on the phone at the best of times ;)
Jeni Tennison: Suits me. I hate talking on the phone at the best of times ;) ←
13:10:56 <Zakim> - +1.404.314.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.404.314.aaee ←
13:11:21 <JeniT> hi libby :)
Jeni Tennison: hi libby :) ←
13:11:28 <libby> hey jenit!
Libby Miller: hey jenit! ←
13:11:33 <libby> and all
Libby Miller: and all ←
13:11:39 <Chris> Evening all
Chris Beer: Evening all ←
13:11:41 <sandro> hey libby!
Sandro Hawke: hey libby! ←
13:11:50 <libby> hey sandro ;-)
Libby Miller: hey sandro :-) ←
13:11:55 <sandro> waiting, waiting. :-)
Sandro Hawke: waiting, waiting. :-) ←
13:12:02 <libby> s/;-)/:-)/
13:12:42 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's making noise?
Zakim, who's making noise? ←
13:12:55 <Zakim> mhausenblas, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (31%), +1.614.692.aadd (18%), Ivan (11%)
Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Sandro (31%), +1.614.692.aadd (18%), Ivan (11%) ←
13:13:07 <sandro> zakim, mute me
Sandro Hawke: zakim, mute me ←
13:13:07 <Zakim> Sandro should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Sandro should now be muted ←
13:13:11 <sandro> did that do it?
Sandro Hawke: did that do it? ←
13:13:14 <JeniT> no
Jeni Tennison: no ←
13:13:18 <ivan> zakim, mute me
Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me ←
13:13:18 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted ←
13:13:19 <sandro> zakim, unmute me
Sandro Hawke: zakim, unmute me ←
13:13:19 <Zakim> Sandro should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Sandro should no longer be muted ←
13:13:27 <sandro> zakim, mute aadd
Sandro Hawke: zakim, mute aadd ←
13:13:27 <Zakim> +1.614.692.aadd should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: +1.614.692.aadd should now be muted ←
13:13:36 <ivan> aaaahhhh :-)
Ivan Herman: aaaahhhh :-) ←
13:13:52 <Zakim> - +1.614.692.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.614.692.aadd ←
13:14:38 <Chris> meh - Probs with conf call sandro?
Chris Beer: meh - Probs with conf call sandro? ←
13:14:48 <sandro> Yes, Chris :-( :-(
Sandro Hawke: Yes, Chris :-( :-( ←
13:14:56 <johnlsheridan> when we start, will people want to introduce themselves on the call, or just skip straight to the presentation?
John Sheridan: when we start, will people want to introduce themselves on the call, or just skip straight to the presentation? ←
13:15:22 <Chris> @sandro no stress - how long till fix?
Chris Beer: @sandro no stress - how long till fix? ←
13:15:24 <Zakim> + +1.573.522.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.573.522.aaff ←
13:15:36 <sandro> (and totally my fault, for setting up the teleconference reservation incorrectly.)
Sandro Hawke: (and totally my fault, for setting up the teleconference reservation incorrectly.) ←
13:15:48 <Zakim> + +0782464aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +0782464aagg ←
13:16:02 <johnlsheridan> normally 10 people is enough for us :)
John Sheridan: normally 10 people is enough for us :) ←
13:16:31 <TomM> twitter-effect.... :)
Tom M: twitter-effect.... :) ←
13:16:39 <libby> hey dave!
Libby Miller: hey dave! ←
13:17:38 <mhausenblas> I guess so, TomM - re Twitter http://search.twitter.com/search?q=egov+linked+data
I guess so, TomM - re Twitter http://search.twitter.com/search?q=egov+linked+data ←
13:17:50 <Cory> Sandro - I have a gotomeeting webinar running, if needed
Cory Casanave: Sandro - I have a gotomeeting webinar running, if needed ←
13:18:33 <sandro> Thanks, Cory. In 10 years at W3C I've never had a problem, except once when the bridge's second redundant power supply blew out.
Sandro Hawke: Thanks, Cory. In 10 years at W3C I've never had a problem, except once when the bridge's second redundant power supply blew out. ←
13:18:36 <Zakim> - +0782464aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: - +0782464aagg ←
13:19:13 <Cory> Its the every 10 year problems that get you!
Cory Casanave: Its the every 10 year problems that get you! ←
13:21:04 <sandro> [The admin I'm talking to now isn't answering me.... hopefully that means she's getting up, or something. But the real expert on the system is away helping with local flood relief operations.]
Sandro Hawke: [The admin I'm talking to now isn't answering me.... hopefully that means she's getting up, or something. But the real expert on the system is away helping with local flood relief operations.] ←
13:21:18 <sandro> er, getting *help* I mean
Sandro Hawke: er, getting *help* I mean ←
13:22:32 <edsu> sandro: so would that be ralph who is helping out w/ the flood relief
Sandro Hawke: so would that be ralph who is helping out w/ the flood relief [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
13:23:40 <JeniT> Zakim, John is johnlsheridan
Jeni Tennison: Zakim, John is johnlsheridan ←
13:23:40 <Zakim> +johnlsheridan; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +johnlsheridan; got it ←
13:23:53 <JeniT> Zakim, JeniT is with johnlsheridan
Jeni Tennison: Zakim, JeniT is with johnlsheridan ←
13:23:53 <Zakim> +JeniT; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JeniT; got it ←
13:24:06 <johnlsheridan> I'm being organised by JeniT (again)
John Sheridan: I'm being organised by JeniT (again) ←
13:24:14 <Chris> lol
Chris Beer: lol ←
13:24:16 <johnlsheridan> ok
John Sheridan: ok ←
13:24:18 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas ←
13:24:20 <Zakim> -juansequeda
Zakim IRC Bot: -juansequeda ←
13:24:21 <Zakim> - +1.573.522.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.573.522.aaff ←
13:24:23 <Zakim> - +1.617.752.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.617.752.aacc ←
13:24:25 <ivan> zakim, drop me
Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me ←
13:24:25 <Zakim> -johnlsheridan
Zakim IRC Bot: -johnlsheridan ←
13:24:25 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds
Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds ←
13:24:25 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected ←
13:24:26 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
13:24:26 <Zakim> - +1.865.576.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.865.576.aabb ←
13:24:30 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
13:24:31 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV(DMngmnt)8:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV(DMngmnt)8:00AM has ended ←
13:24:32 <Zakim> Attendees were Sandro, Ivan, DaveReynolds, mhausenblas, +0203334aaaa, +1.865.576.aabb, juansequeda, +1.617.752.aacc, +1.614.692.aadd, +1.404.314.aaee, cygri, +1.573.522.aaff,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Sandro, Ivan, DaveReynolds, mhausenblas, +0203334aaaa, +1.865.576.aabb, juansequeda, +1.617.752.aacc, +1.614.692.aadd, +1.404.314.aaee, cygri, +1.573.522.aaff, ←
13:24:35 <Zakim> ... +0782464aagg, johnlsheridan, JeniT
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +0782464aagg, johnlsheridan, JeniT ←
13:24:40 <Cory> On another note - I would like to try and spool up "outreach" again, looking for ideas and input
Cory Casanave: On another note - I would like to try and spool up "outreach" again, looking for ideas and input ←
13:24:50 <sandro> zakim, this will be egov
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this will be egov ←
13:24:50 <Zakim> ok, sandro, I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, sandro, I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM already started ←
13:24:50 <johnlsheridan> can we try and dial back now?
John Sheridan: can we try and dial back now? ←
13:24:59 <edsu> Zakim, LC is edsu
Ed Summers: Zakim, LC is edsu ←
13:24:59 <Zakim> +edsu; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +edsu; got it ←
13:24:59 <sandro> yes.
Sandro Hawke: yes. ←
13:25:06 <mhausenblas> Zakim, code?
Zakim, code? ←
13:25:06 <Zakim> the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), mhausenblas ←
13:25:08 <Zakim> + +1.865.576.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.865.576.aaaa ←
13:25:08 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:25:09 <Zakim> + +1.573.522.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.573.522.aabb ←
13:25:09 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
13:25:10 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made ←
13:25:10 <Zakim> +??P5
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5 ←
13:25:12 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
13:25:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:25:26 <edsu> dang somebody sounds like they're in a laundromat :-)
Ed Summers: dang somebody sounds like they're in a laundromat :-) ←
13:25:27 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas ←
13:25:28 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
13:25:35 <Zakim> +??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2 ←
13:25:36 <Zakim> + +1.914.461.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.914.461.aacc ←
13:25:36 <Zakim> + +1.617.752.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.752.aadd ←
13:25:39 <Zakim> +Cory
Zakim IRC Bot: +Cory ←
13:25:39 <mhausenblas> Zakim, cygri is with mhausenblas
Zakim, cygri is with mhausenblas ←
13:25:40 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it ←
13:25:41 <Zakim> + +0203334aaee - is perhaps johnlsheridan
Zakim IRC Bot: + +0203334aaee - is perhaps johnlsheridan ←
13:25:44 <edsu> sandro++
Ed Summers: sandro++ ←
13:25:50 <ivan> isn't technology great?
Ivan Herman: isn't technology great? ←
13:25:52 <JeniT> Zakim, JeniT is with johnlsheridan
Jeni Tennison: Zakim, JeniT is with johnlsheridan ←
13:25:52 <Zakim> +JeniT; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JeniT; got it ←
13:25:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
13:26:03 <sandro> OKAY TO CALL NOW!!
Sandro Hawke: OKAY TO CALL NOW!! ←
13:26:04 <Zakim> + +1.617.619.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.619.aaff ←
13:26:05 <Zakim> + +03539149aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +03539149aagg ←
13:26:09 <edsu> ivan: :-)
Ivan Herman: :-) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
13:26:22 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, ++??P2 is me
Laurent LeFort: zakim, ++??P2 is me ←
13:26:22 <Zakim> sorry, laurent_lefort_cs, I do not recognize a party named '++??P2'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, laurent_lefort_cs, I do not recognize a party named '++??P2' ←
13:26:24 <TomM> :)
Tom M: :) ←
13:26:28 <Zakim> + +1.805.560.aahh
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.805.560.aahh ←
13:26:35 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, +??P2 is me
Laurent LeFort: zakim, +??P2 is me ←
13:26:35 <Zakim> sorry, laurent_lefort_cs, I do not recognize a party named '+??P2'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, laurent_lefort_cs, I do not recognize a party named '+??P2' ←
13:26:39 <Zakim> + +7.942.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: + +7.942.aaii ←
13:26:43 <Cory> So now we are goint to tell the world how to be interconnected, right!
Cory Casanave: So now we are goint to tell the world how to be interconnected, right! ←
13:26:51 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, ??P2 is me
Laurent LeFort: zakim, ??P2 is me ←
13:26:51 <Zakim> +laurent_lefort_cs; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +laurent_lefort_cs; got it ←
13:26:57 <Zakim> + +1.617.521.aajj
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.521.aajj ←
13:27:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.aa]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.aa] ←
13:27:13 <Zakim> +[CTIC]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[CTIC] ←
13:27:43 <martinSpain> Zakim, [CTIC is martinSpain
Martín Álvarez: Zakim, [CTIC is martinSpain ←
13:27:43 <Zakim> +martinSpain; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +martinSpain; got it ←
13:29:06 <Zakim> +??P24
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P24 ←
13:29:14 <danbri> zakim, I just joined
Dan Brickley: zakim, I just joined ←
13:29:14 <Zakim> I don't understand 'I just joined', danbri
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'I just joined', danbri ←
13:29:18 <JeniT> http://www.epimorphics.com/public/presentations/ldapi/egov-presentation.html
Jeni Tennison: http://www.epimorphics.com/public/presentations/ldapi/egov-presentation.html ←
13:29:25 <sandro> zakim, ??P24 is danbri
Sandro Hawke: zakim, ??P24 is danbri ←
13:29:25 <Zakim> +danbri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +danbri; got it ←
13:31:11 <edsu> mhausenblas: sounds like you are volunteering :-)
Michael Hausenblas: sounds like you are volunteering :-) [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
13:31:34 <daniel> .mhausenblas... this would be good
Daniel Bennett: .mhausenblas... this would be good ←
13:31:42 <edsu> mhausenblas++
Ed Summers: mhausenblas++ ←
13:31:47 <johnlsheridan> +1 - sorry, I should have asked for a scribe!
John Sheridan: +1 - sorry, I should have asked for a scribe! ←
13:32:00 <danbri> zakim, who is on the phone?
Dan Brickley: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
13:32:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, DaveReynolds, +1.573.522.aabb, DaveReynolds, Ivan, [IPcaller], mhausenblas, Sandro, +1.914.461.aacc, laurent_lefort_cs, +1.617.752.aadd,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, DaveReynolds, +1.573.522.aabb, DaveReynolds, Ivan, [IPcaller], mhausenblas, Sandro, +1.914.461.aacc, laurent_lefort_cs, +1.617.752.aadd, ←
13:32:03 <Zakim> ... Cory, johnlsheridan, [IPcaller.a], +1.617.619.aaff, +03539149aagg (muted), +1.805.560.aahh, +7.942.aaii, +1.617.521.aajj, [IPcaller.aa], martinSpain, danbri (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: ... Cory, johnlsheridan, [IPcaller.a], +1.617.619.aaff, +03539149aagg (muted), +1.805.560.aahh, +7.942.aaii, +1.617.521.aajj, [IPcaller.aa], martinSpain, danbri (muted) ←
<sandro> topic: Main Presentation: Linked Data API
Summary: Dave Reynolds and Jeni Tennison present a system for exposing the data available in SPARQL endpoints in ways which make them much easier to use for non-RDF-experts.
<sandro> summary: Dave Reynolds and Jeni Tennison present a system for exposing the data available in SPARQL endpoints in ways which make them much easier to use for non-RDF-experts.
13:32:06 <Zakim> johnlsheridan has johnlsheridan, JeniT
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13:32:08 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri
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13:32:31 <olyerickson1> for thoe of us IRC only, please tell us the current slide...thanks!
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13:32:39 <mhausenblas> ok
ok ←
13:32:44 <sandro> still on slide 2 I believe
Sandro Hawke: still on slide 2 I believe ←
13:33:22 <sandro> slide:3
Sandro Hawke: slide:3 ←
13:33:35 <mhausenblas> JeniT: goal is a middleware that hides away RDF/SPARQL complexity
Jeni Tennison: goal is a middleware that hides away RDF/SPARQL complexity ←
13:33:53 <Chris> @sandro --> PM.
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13:34:09 <Zakim> +Brand
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13:34:19 <sandro> slide:4
Sandro Hawke: slide:4 ←
13:34:21 <ivan> zakim, mute me
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13:34:21 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
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13:34:25 <daniel> s, middleware transformation to rdf-based systems is out of scope?
Daniel Bennett: s, middleware transformation to rdf-based systems is out of scope? ←
13:34:33 <mhausenblas> JeniT: the middleware takes HTTP request and wraps the SPARQL endpoint
Jeni Tennison: the middleware takes HTTP request and wraps the SPARQL endpoint ←
13:34:50 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
13:35:02 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (5%), Brand (9%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [IPcaller] (5%), Brand (9%) ←
13:35:38 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
13:35:42 <mhausenblas> JeniT: idea is that people deploy the middleware with API spec and serves multitude of formats
Jeni Tennison: idea is that people deploy the middleware with API spec and serves multitude of formats ←
13:35:52 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
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13:36:02 <mhausenblas> ... make customisation easy
... make customisation easy ←
13:36:21 <mhausenblas> slide 5
slide 5 ←
13:36:30 <mhausenblas> JeniT: consumer side
Jeni Tennison: consumer side ←
13:37:12 <mhausenblas> ... the RDF format we had are 'ugly' and require changed tool chain
... the RDF format we had are 'ugly' and require changed tool chain ←
13:37:49 <sandro> slide:6
Sandro Hawke: slide:6 ←
13:37:51 <mhausenblas> ... so in order to simplify the job we remove round-tripping and provide simple JSON
... so in order to simplify the job we remove round-tripping and provide simple JSON ←
13:38:03 <mhausenblas> JeniT: query
Jeni Tennison: query ←
13:38:13 <mhausenblas> ... SPARQL was perceived too complex
... SPARQL was perceived too complex ←
13:38:41 <mhausenblas> ... people want to list based on URIs
... people want to list based on URIs ←
13:39:00 <sandro> (great stuff, JeniT.... makes a lot of sense.)
Sandro Hawke: (great stuff, JeniT.... makes a lot of sense.) ←
13:39:21 <mhausenblas> juansequeda: what are the 'ugly' formats
Juan Sequeda: what are the 'ugly' formats ←
13:39:25 <daniel> what is the role of REST?/is there one?
Daniel Bennett: what is the role of REST?/is there one? ←
13:39:38 <mhausenblas> JeniT: RDF/XML
Jeni Tennison: RDF/XML ←
13:39:57 <Zakim> +Rachel
Zakim IRC Bot: +Rachel ←
13:40:03 <mhausenblas> JeniT: aim is to make it a RESTful protocol
Jeni Tennison: aim is to make it a RESTful protocol ←
13:40:12 <mhausenblas> ... get list of things
... get list of things ←
13:40:17 <mhausenblas> ... read-only ATM
... read-only ATM ←
13:40:24 <danbri> is the idea for this API to have multiple implementations, or is it mainly an implementation?
Dan Brickley: is the idea for this API to have multiple implementations, or is it mainly an implementation? ←
13:40:30 <danbri> <- question in irc as my audio is bad
Dan Brickley: <- question in irc as my audio is bad ←
13:40:52 <mhausenblas> JeniT: idea is to have a generic spec with many impls
Jeni Tennison: idea is to have a generic spec with many impls ←
13:41:23 <edsu> i guess this is the specification currently? http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/Specification
Ed Summers: i guess this is the specification currently? http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/Specification ←
13:41:37 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds wil now explain how it works behind the scenes
DaveReynolds wil now explain how it works behind the scenes ←
13:41:43 <JeniT> Yes, that's right edsu
Jeni Tennison: Yes, that's right edsu ←
13:41:45 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: slide 7
Dave Reynolds: slide 7 ←
13:42:22 <mhausenblas> ... the middleware takes HTTP request and figures how to translate it to SPARQL queries
... the middleware takes HTTP request and figures how to translate it to SPARQL queries ←
13:42:50 <mhausenblas> ... the vocab piece is needed to map types, labels, etc.
... the vocab piece is needed to map types, labels, etc. ←
13:43:01 <mhausenblas> slide 8
slide 8 ←
13:43:17 <daniel> does the mapping have a link to e.g. the d2r-server mapping stuff
Daniel Bennett: does the mapping have a link to e.g. the d2r-server mapping stuff ←
13:43:22 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: middleware == selector, viewer, formatter
Dave Reynolds: middleware == selector, viewer, formatter ←
13:44:48 <mhausenblas> (DaveReynolds explains details re the three components)
(DaveReynolds explains details re the three components) ←
13:44:59 <mhausenblas> slide 9
slide 9 ←
13:45:19 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: first you need to define the endpoint
Dave Reynolds: first you need to define the endpoint ←
13:45:46 <mhausenblas> ... for a SPARQL endpoint you define 1..N API endpoints
... for a SPARQL endpoint you define 1..N API endpoints ←
13:46:20 <mhausenblas> ... and then a view definition
... and then a view definition ←
13:46:59 <mhausenblas> slide 10
slide 10 ←
13:47:09 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: using it
Dave Reynolds: using it ←
13:47:46 <mhausenblas> ... GET on http://epimorph-pubx1.appspot.com/proxy/api/doc/schools
... GET on http://epimorph-pubx1.appspot.com/proxy/api/doc/schools ←
13:48:12 <mhausenblas> slide 11
slide 11 ←
13:48:59 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: you get back the top-level resource
Dave Reynolds: you get back the top-level resource ←
13:49:19 <mhausenblas> ... now in RDF/Turtle
... now in RDF/Turtle ←
13:49:54 <mhausenblas> slide 12
slide 12 ←
13:50:20 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: important that we return a list of resources not a set of "bindings"
Dave Reynolds: important that we return a list of resources not a set of "bindings" ←
13:50:29 <mhausenblas> ... conserve the linked data root
... conserve the resource-centric nature of linked data ←
13:50:58 <danbri> (this is a very healthy emphasis... the resource-centric aspect)
Dan Brickley: (this is a very healthy emphasis... the resource-centric aspect) ←
13:51:12 <mhausenblas> s/the linked data root/the resource-centric nature of linked data
13:51:37 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: further, it's paged
Dave Reynolds: further, it's paged ←
13:52:01 <mhausenblas> ... and finally multiple representations (JSON, RDF etc)
... and finally multiple representations (JSON, RDF etc) ←
13:52:13 <mhausenblas> slide 13
slide 13 ←
13:52:37 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: just put a .json on the end and you get a JSON representation
Dave Reynolds: just put a .json on the end and you get a JSON representation ←
13:53:15 <Zakim> + +1.303.869.aakk
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13:53:35 <mhausenblas> ... result is an array which conserves the Linked Data structure
... result is an array which conserves the Linked Data structure ←
13:53:37 <mhausenblas> slide 14
slide 14 ←
13:54:00 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: goal was to keep the JSON simple/natural
Dave Reynolds: goal was to keep the JSON simple/natural ←
13:54:21 <mhausenblas> ... uniform tree structure
... uniform tree structure ←
13:55:38 <mhausenblas> ... also gives context information (mapping, etc.)
... also gives context information (mapping, etc.) ←
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13:55:53 <mhausenblas> slide 15
slide 15 ←
13:56:00 <mhausenblas> rrsagent, make logs public
rrsagent, make logs public ←
13:56:12 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: filtering
Dave Reynolds: filtering ←
13:56:24 <Zakim> - +1.573.522.aabb
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13:56:48 <mhausenblas> ... you can narrow down by changing URI
... you can narrow down by changing URI ←
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13:58:10 <mhausenblas> slide 16
slide 16 ←
13:58:25 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: sublists and patterns
Dave Reynolds: sublists and patterns ←
13:58:46 <mhausenblas> ... package useful filters into endpoints
... package useful filters into endpoints ←
13:59:52 <mhausenblas> ... leverage URI patterns
... leverage URI patterns ←
14:00:30 <mhausenblas> slide 17
slide 17 ←
14:00:32 <Zakim> + +1.410.965.aall
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14:01:06 <mhausenblas> Michael: wondering if the template is based on http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gregorio-uritemplate
Michael Hausenblas: wondering if the template is based on http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gregorio-uritemplate ←
14:01:34 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: assisting with formulating queries
Dave Reynolds: assisting with formulating queries ←
14:01:38 <JeniT> mhausenblas: no, simpler, because it's for parsing rather than generation
Michael Hausenblas: no, simpler, because it's for parsing rather than generation [ Scribe Assist by Jeni Tennison ] ←
14:01:48 <mhausenblas> hmmm
hmmm ←
14:01:51 <JeniT> mhausenblas: rather, it's *based on*, but not everything from
Michael Hausenblas: rather, it's *based on*, but not everything from [ Scribe Assist by Jeni Tennison ] ←
14:02:23 <mhausenblas> Michael: thanks JeniT - I see
Michael Hausenblas: thanks JeniT - I see ←
14:02:31 <juansequeda> what is the link to the spec?
Juan Sequeda: what is the link to the spec? ←
14:02:48 <DaveReynolds> Spec is at: http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/Specification
Dave Reynolds: Spec is at: http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/wiki/Specification ←
14:02:49 <mhausenblas> JeniT wraps up
JeniT wraps up ←
14:03:04 <mhausenblas> JeniT: something we found we really needed
Jeni Tennison: something we found we really needed ←
14:03:08 <sandro> q?
Sandro Hawke: q? ←
14:03:18 <Cory> we did something similar bit were concerned about acceptance: http://www.modeldriven.org/projects/EKB/XMLView.ppt
Cory Casanave: we did something similar bit were concerned about acceptance: http://www.modeldriven.org/projects/EKB/XMLView.ppt ←
14:03:19 <sandro> if you have questions, please use "q+" on irc
Sandro Hawke: if you have questions, please use "q+" on irc ←
14:03:30 <mhausenblas> ... normal consumers (Web develeopers the scribe thinks?) not willing to handle RDF
... normal consumers (Web develeopers the scribe thinks?) not willing to handle RDF ←
14:03:59 <libby> q+
Libby Miller: q+ ←
14:04:02 <mhausenblas> JeniT: it simplifies many tasks
Jeni Tennison: it simplifies many tasks ←
14:04:12 <Zakim> - +1.303.869.aakk
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14:04:12 <mhausenblas> ... no need to learn SPARQL
... no need to learn SPARQL ←
14:04:44 <daniel> sidenote : is there a way to push the json-output to the libs such as jena2?
Daniel Bennett: sidenote : is there a way to push the json-output to the libs such as jena2? ←
14:05:33 <mhausenblas> JeniT: through preserving the linked data aspects the users can still extend/learn more
Jeni Tennison: through preserving the linked data aspects the users can still extend/learn more ←
14:05:51 <mhausenblas> ... other side is helping the publishers of linked data
... other side is helping the publishers of linked data ←
14:05:57 <DaveReynolds> daniel - json-output is in an open source project and works with Jena
Dave Reynolds: daniel - json-output is in an open source project and works with Jena ←
14:06:06 <mhausenblas> JeniT: simple config - rich API
Jeni Tennison: simple config - rich API ←
14:06:10 <Zakim> + +1.303.869.aamm
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14:06:18 <Zakim> - +1.914.461.aacc
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14:06:30 <daniel> DaveReynolds: ok, thx - do you have a link for that?
Dave Reynolds: ok, thx - do you have a link for that? [ Scribe Assist by Daniel Bennett ] ←
14:06:43 <DaveReynolds> daniel - see http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/source/checkout
Dave Reynolds: daniel - see http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/source/checkout ←
14:06:54 <johnlsheridan> ack libby
John Sheridan: ack libby ←
14:06:55 <juansequeda> q+
Juan Sequeda: q+ ←
14:07:00 <DaveReynolds> Not yet formally released and supported ! :)
Dave Reynolds: Not yet formally released and supported ! :) ←
14:07:05 <mhausenblas> libby: really impressive stuff
Libby Miller: really impressive stuff ←
14:07:14 <danbri> q+ to ask (if someone can relay this into audio) ... any interest in going further towards full text search, ranking, auto-completion ('give me schools whose names/labels begin with...')...
Dan Brickley: q+ to ask (if someone can relay this into audio) ... any interest in going further towards full text search, ranking, auto-completion ('give me schools whose names/labels begin with...')... ←
14:07:21 <edsu> q+ to ask slide 13
Ed Summers: q+ to ask slide 13 ←
14:07:27 <mhausenblas> libby: are people now complaining less?
Libby Miller: are people now complaining less? ←
14:07:50 <mhausenblas> JeniT: have presented this on certain meet-ups and very positive feedback, yes
Jeni Tennison: have presented this on certain meet-ups and very positive feedback, yes ←
14:08:11 <mhausenblas> libby: does this include also non-RDF-people?
Libby Miller: does this include also non-RDF-people? ←
14:08:21 <johnlsheridan> ack juansequeda
John Sheridan: ack juansequeda ←
14:08:26 <libby> thanks ;-)
Libby Miller: thanks ;-) ←
14:08:35 <mhausenblas> JeniT: most are sort of RDF aware,
Jeni Tennison: most are sort of RDF aware, ←
14:09:23 <mhausenblas> juansequeda: people often think RDF == XML, what's you experiences with this?
Juan Sequeda: people often think RDF == XML, what's you experiences with this? ←
14:09:27 <Cory> Objection 1: RDF is XML. Objection 2: RDF isn't XML
Cory Casanave: Objection 1: RDF is XML. Objection 2: RDF isn't XML ←
14:09:32 <mhausenblas> juansequeda: future plans?
Juan Sequeda: future plans? ←
14:09:45 <Zakim> + +1.559.445.aann
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14:10:01 <edsu> ok :-)
Ed Summers: ok :-) ←
14:10:41 <juansequeda> edsu, it is me :)
Juan Sequeda: edsu, it is me :) ←
14:10:58 <edsu> mhausenblas++
Ed Summers: mhausenblas++ ←
14:11:01 <JeniT> PHP implementation: http://code.google.com/p/puelia-php/
Jeni Tennison: PHP implementation: http://code.google.com/p/puelia-php/ ←
14:11:18 <libby> heh
Libby Miller: heh ←
14:11:20 <johnlsheridan> ack danbri
John Sheridan: ack danbri ←
14:11:21 <Zakim> danbri, you wanted to ask (if someone can relay this into audio) ... any interest in going further towards full text search, ranking, auto-completion ('give me schools whose
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14:11:23 <JeniT> Ruby implementation: http://github.com/ldodds/linked-data-api
Jeni Tennison: Ruby implementation: http://github.com/ldodds/linked-data-api ←
14:11:25 <Zakim> ... names/labels begin with...')...
Zakim IRC Bot: ... names/labels begin with...')... ←
14:11:26 <danbri> ack me
Dan Brickley: ack me ←
14:11:27 <danbri> danbri: q+ to ask (if someone can relay this into audio) ... any interest in going further towards full text search, ranking, auto-completion ('give me schools whose names/labels begin with...')...
Dan Brickley: q+ to ask (if someone can relay this into audio) ... any interest in going further towards full text search, ranking, auto-completion ('give me schools whose names/labels begin with...')... [ Scribe Assist by Dan Brickley ] ←
14:11:39 <johnlsheridan> q?
John Sheridan: q? ←
14:11:51 <Cory> q+
Cory Casanave: q+ ←
14:12:13 <JeniT> Java implementation: http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/
Jeni Tennison: Java implementation: http://code.google.com/p/linked-data-api/ ←
14:12:30 <juansequeda> JeniT, any plans of coming to the US anytime soon?
Juan Sequeda: JeniT, any plans of coming to the US anytime soon? ←
14:12:36 <johnlsheridan> ack edsu
John Sheridan: ack edsu ←
14:12:36 <Zakim> edsu, you wanted to ask slide 13
Zakim IRC Bot: edsu, you wanted to ask slide 13 ←
14:12:37 <danbri> thanks dave!
Dan Brickley: thanks dave! ←
14:12:41 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: there are some hooks for these things danbri but no active developments ATM
Dave Reynolds: there are some hooks for these things danbri but no active developments ATM ←
14:13:19 <mhausenblas> JeniT: we support extension points in the middleware
Jeni Tennison: we support extension points in the middleware ←
14:13:26 <danbri> (i have a hunch auto-complete will end up being important...)
Dan Brickley: (i have a hunch auto-complete will end up being important...) ←
14:13:27 <edsu> http://epimorph-pubx1.appspot.com/proxy/api/doc/schools.json
Ed Summers: http://epimorph-pubx1.appspot.com/proxy/api/doc/schools.json ←
14:13:33 <mhausenblas> edsu: question re slide 13
Ed Summers: question re slide 13 ←
14:13:36 <mhausenblas> ack edsu
ack edsu ←
14:14:06 <mhausenblas> edsu: so you have a list of schools
Ed Summers: so you have a list of schools ←
14:14:31 <mhausenblas> ... what about a link back to the API to get the JSON back
... what about a link back to the API to get the JSON back ←
14:14:45 <JeniT> juansequeda, I'm over for WWW2010 and then for Semtech 2010 :)
Jeni Tennison: juansequeda, I'm over for WWW2010 and then for Semtech 2010 :) ←
14:15:22 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: at the top level (next, previous page) there is also the alternative formats
Dave Reynolds: at the top level (next, previous page) there is also the alternative formats ←
14:15:35 <mhausenblas> ... same works for item-level
... same works for item-level ←
14:15:39 <juansequeda> JeniT, great Looking forward to finally meeting you at WWW2010 and at Semtech :) Any free time? Would you like to come to Austin?
Juan Sequeda: JeniT, great Looking forward to finally meeting you at WWW2010 and at Semtech :) Any free time? Would you like to come to Austin? ←
14:16:13 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: we have not gone so far to offer it for every resource, no
Dave Reynolds: we have not gone so far to offer it for every resource, no ←
14:16:30 <johnlsheridan> ack Cory
John Sheridan: ack Cory ←
14:16:38 <JeniT> juansequeda, probably won't have time :( But hope we can meet at the conferences
Jeni Tennison: juansequeda, probably won't have time :( But hope we can meet at the conferences ←
14:17:06 <mhausenblas> Cory: you mentioned XXX - plans for it?
Cory Casanave: you mentioned XXX - plans for it? ←
14:17:23 <Cory> XXX = update
Cory Casanave: update = update ←
14:17:34 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: current motivation and reqs stems from data.gov.uk
Dave Reynolds: current motivation and reqs stems from data.gov.uk ←
14:17:53 <mhausenblas> s/XXX/update
14:18:01 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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14:18:22 <edsu> mhausenblas: i asked the question awkwardly, i meant to ask if the spec would allow people to follow their nose in the json data, so individual schools in that response would have a linked-data-api uri to get the item level json for a school
Michael Hausenblas: i asked the question awkwardly, i meant to ask if the spec would allow people to follow their nose in the json data, so individual schools in that response would have a linked-data-api uri to get the item level json for a school [ Scribe Assist by Ed Summers ] ←
14:18:23 <mhausenblas> DaveReynolds: re updates - we'd be open to any ideas, currently not supported
Dave Reynolds: re updates - we'd be open to any ideas, currently not supported ←
14:19:13 <mhausenblas> JeniT: have seen such a requirement already, recently
Jeni Tennison: have seen such a requirement already, recently ←
14:19:48 <mhausenblas> Michael: notes http://esw.w3.org/WriteWebOfData and happy to follow up with you chaps
Michael Hausenblas: notes http://esw.w3.org/WriteWebOfData and happy to follow up with you chaps ←
14:20:20 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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14:20:35 <Zakim> - +1.617.521.aajj
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14:20:35 <edsu> does irc.w3.org respond on port 80?
Ed Summers: does irc.w3.org respond on port 80? ←
14:21:13 <DaveReynolds> You're welcome :)
Dave Reynolds: You're welcome :) ←
14:21:13 <ivan> clap clap clap
Ivan Herman: clap clap clap ←
14:21:14 <danbri> edsu, it seems to talk irc: on :80, yes
Dan Brickley: edsu, it seems to talk irc: on :80, yes ←
14:21:20 <Zakim> - +1.805.560.aahh
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14:21:21 <danbri> i hadn't thought to look before :)
Dan Brickley: i hadn't thought to look before :) ←
14:21:23 <ivan> ivan drop me
Ivan Herman: ivan drop me ←
14:21:28 <mhausenblas> johnlsheridan: thanks for presenting JeniT and DaveReynolds
John Sheridan: thanks for presenting JeniT and DaveReynolds ←
14:21:32 <laurent_lefort_cs> * laurent claps
Laurent LeFort: * laurent claps ←
14:21:36 <libby> thanks all
Libby Miller: thanks all ←
14:21:44 <Zakim> - +7.942.aaii
Zakim IRC Bot: - +7.942.aaii ←
14:21:51 <Zakim> -danbri
Zakim IRC Bot: -danbri ←
14:21:56 <Zakim> - +1.617.752.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.617.752.aadd ←
14:22:03 <Zakim> -martinSpain
Zakim IRC Bot: -martinSpain ←
14:22:09 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller] ←
14:22:34 <sandro> zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:22:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, DaveReynolds, DaveReynolds, Ivan (muted), mhausenblas, Sandro, laurent_lefort_cs, Cory, johnlsheridan, [IPcaller.a], +1.617.619.aaff,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, DaveReynolds, DaveReynolds, Ivan (muted), mhausenblas, Sandro, laurent_lefort_cs, Cory, johnlsheridan, [IPcaller.a], +1.617.619.aaff, ←
14:22:38 <Zakim> ... +03539149aagg (muted), [IPcaller.aa], Brand, Rachel, +1.410.965.aall, +1.303.869.aamm, +1.559.445.aann
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +03539149aagg (muted), [IPcaller.aa], Brand, Rachel, +1.410.965.aall, +1.303.869.aamm, +1.559.445.aann ←
14:22:41 <Zakim> johnlsheridan has johnlsheridan, JeniT
Zakim IRC Bot: johnlsheridan has johnlsheridan, JeniT ←
14:22:42 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri ←
<sandro> Topic: Announcements
14:22:58 <mhausenblas> sandro: any announcements?
Sandro Hawke: any announcements? ←
14:22:58 <kate_geyer> Kate from MA, US, staying until the end
Kate Geyer: Kate from MA, US, staying until the end ←
14:23:19 <mhausenblas> sandro: DCAT will start its work tomorrow
Sandro Hawke: DCAT will start its work tomorrow ←
14:23:46 <mhausenblas> sandro: meeting in two weeks will host speakers from ZZZ
Sandro Hawke: meeting in two weeks will host speakers from New York state legislature ←
14:23:55 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
14:23:58 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
14:23:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas ←
14:24:12 <mhausenblas> Chair: johnlsheridan
14:25:29 <sandro> s/ZZZ/New York state legislature/
14:25:36 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.a] ←
14:25:44 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
14:25:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas ←
14:26:12 <mhausenblas> Cory: in outreach want to find out in what people are interested in
Cory Casanave: in outreach want to find out in what people are interested in ←
14:26:22 <mhausenblas> ... will do some work in Wiki and send out email
... will do some work in Wiki and send out email ←
14:28:03 <mhausenblas> johnlsheridan: will talk about in chairs group but would like to update the note with recent activities
John Sheridan: will talk about in chairs group but would like to update the note with recent activities ←
14:29:56 <mhausenblas> BrianG: some uptake of catalogue in Colorado
Brian Gryth: some uptake of catalogue in Colorado ←
14:30:42 <mhausenblas> OwenAmbur: there are two other activities
Owen Ambur: there are two other activities ←
14:30:51 <sandro> zakim, who is here?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is here? ←
14:30:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, DaveReynolds, DaveReynolds, mhausenblas, Sandro, laurent_lefort_cs, Cory, johnlsheridan, +1.617.619.aaff, +03539149aagg (muted),
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, DaveReynolds, DaveReynolds, mhausenblas, Sandro, laurent_lefort_cs, Cory, johnlsheridan, +1.617.619.aaff, +03539149aagg (muted), ←
14:30:55 <Zakim> ... [IPcaller.aa], Brand, Rachel, +1.410.965.aall, +1.303.869.aamm, +1.559.445.aann
Zakim IRC Bot: ... [IPcaller.aa], Brand, Rachel, +1.410.965.aall, +1.303.869.aamm, +1.559.445.aann ←
14:30:57 <Zakim> johnlsheridan has johnlsheridan, JeniT
Zakim IRC Bot: johnlsheridan has johnlsheridan, JeniT ←
14:30:58 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, cygri ←
14:31:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see tmarkus, cutlass, equaliser, jpf, RichW, Rachel, mib_lo55ig, OwenAmbur, libby, cygri, Cornelia, Cory, Daniel_Bennett, kate_geyer, olyerickson1, colin, martinSpain,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see tmarkus, cutlass, equaliser, jpf, RichW, Rachel, mib_lo55ig, OwenAmbur, libby, cygri, Cornelia, Cory, Daniel_Bennett, kate_geyer, olyerickson1, colin, martinSpain, ←
14:31:02 <johnlsheridan> q?
John Sheridan: q? ←
14:31:02 <mhausenblas> scribe can't understand OwenAmbur - anyone?
scribe can't understand OwenAmbur - anyone? ←
14:31:04 <Zakim> ... laurent_lefort_cs, fadi, JeniT, RRSAgent, johnlsheridan, DaveReynolds, juansequeda, mhausenblas, hughb, edsu, Zakim, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... laurent_lefort_cs, fadi, JeniT, RRSAgent, johnlsheridan, DaveReynolds, juansequeda, mhausenblas, hughb, edsu, Zakim, sandro, trackbot ←
14:31:35 <Zakim> - +1.617.619.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.617.619.aaff ←
14:31:41 <Zakim> - +03539149aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: - +03539149aagg ←
14:31:56 <OwenAmbur> IAC is conducting a social media best practices study.
Owen Ambur: IAC is conducting a social media best practices study. ←
14:32:02 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
14:32:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas ←
14:32:13 <OwenAmbur> They will be interviewing a number of .gov officials for the study.
Owen Ambur: They will be interviewing a number of .gov officials for the study. ←
14:32:47 <Zakim> -Brand
Zakim IRC Bot: -Brand ←
14:32:49 <Zakim> - +1.410.965.aall
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.410.965.aall ←
14:32:49 <mhausenblas> [adjourned]
[adjourned] ←
14:32:50 <Zakim> -Rachel
Zakim IRC Bot: -Rachel ←
14:32:50 <Zakim> - +1.559.445.aann
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.559.445.aann ←
14:32:52 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds
Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds ←
14:32:52 <Zakim> -edsu
Zakim IRC Bot: -edsu ←
14:32:54 <OwenAmbur> Under the auspices of IBM's Center for the Business of Government, Professor Pat Franks is also conducting a similar study.
Owen Ambur: Under the auspices of IBM's Center for the Business of Government, Professor Pat Franks is also conducting a similar study. ←
14:32:56 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
14:32:58 <Zakim> -johnlsheridan
Zakim IRC Bot: -johnlsheridan ←
14:33:00 <Zakim> -Cory
Zakim IRC Bot: -Cory ←
14:33:04 <Zakim> - +1.303.869.aamm
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.303.869.aamm ←
14:33:06 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds
Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds ←
14:33:09 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
RRSAgent, draft minutes ←
14:33:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/14-egov-minutes.html mhausenblas ←
14:33:12 <Zakim> -laurent_lefort_cs
Zakim IRC Bot: -laurent_lefort_cs ←
14:33:15 <sandro> thanks so much for scribing, mhausenblas. I can take them from here, thanks!
Sandro Hawke: thanks so much for scribing, mhausenblas. I can take them from here, thanks! ←
14:33:32 <mhausenblas> yw - thanks for taking care of the rest ;)
yw - thanks for taking care of the rest ;) ←
14:33:38 <JeniT> bye :)
Jeni Tennison: bye :) ←
14:33:49 <Zakim> - +1.865.576.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.865.576.aaaa ←
14:33:51 <Zakim> -[IPcaller.aa]
Zakim IRC Bot: -[IPcaller.aa] ←
14:33:51 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas ←
14:33:51 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended ←
14:33:53 <Zakim> Attendees were edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, +1.573.522.aabb, Ivan, DaveReynolds, [IPcaller], mhausenblas, Sandro, +1.914.461.aacc, +1.617.752.aadd, Cory, cygri, +0203334aaee, JeniT,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were edsu, +1.865.576.aaaa, +1.573.522.aabb, Ivan, DaveReynolds, [IPcaller], mhausenblas, Sandro, +1.914.461.aacc, +1.617.752.aadd, Cory, cygri, +0203334aaee, JeniT, ←
14:33:58 <Zakim> ... +1.617.619.aaff, +03539149aagg, +1.805.560.aahh, +7.942.aaii, laurent_lefort_cs, +1.617.521.aajj, [CTIC], martinSpain, danbri, Brand, Rachel, +1.303.869.aakk, +1.410.965.aall,
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.617.619.aaff, +03539149aagg, +1.805.560.aahh, +7.942.aaii, laurent_lefort_cs, +1.617.521.aajj, [CTIC], martinSpain, danbri, Brand, Rachel, +1.303.869.aakk, +1.410.965.aall, ←
14:34:00 <Zakim> ... +1.303.869.aamm, +1.559.445.aann
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.303.869.aamm, +1.559.445.aann ←
14:50:23 <sandro> just about to send it out, cygri
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Sandro Hawke: just about to send it out, cygri ←
14:50:31 <sandro> finishing adding logistics
Sandro Hawke: finishing adding logistics ←
14:54:49 <cygri> cheers sandro, and thanks for the plug during the meeting!
Richard Cyganiak: cheers sandro, and thanks for the plug during the meeting! ←
21:08:08 <Rachel> #quit
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Rachel Flagg: #quit ←
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