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eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference

Minutes of 21 January 2009

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13:50:06 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-irc

13:50:24 <josema> chair: kevin, john
13:50:48 <josema> agenda+ Appoint a scribe

José Alonso: agenda+ Appoint a scribe

13:51:12 <josema> agenda+ agenda adjustments

José Alonso: agenda+ agenda adjustments

13:51:27 <josema> agenda+ Debrief of recent Kevin/TimBL meeting

José Alonso: agenda+ Debrief of recent Kevin/TimBL meeting

13:51:39 <josema> agenda+ CEN eGov-Share comments sent

José Alonso: agenda+ CEN eGov-Share comments sent

13:51:48 <josema> agenda+ New Use Cases

José Alonso: agenda+ New Use Cases

13:52:04 <josema> agenda+ Confirmed: 2nd F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009)

José Alonso: agenda+ Confirmed: 2nd F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009)

13:52:16 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda?

13:52:42 <josema> zakim, move agendum 6 to 4

José Alonso: zakim, move agendum 6 to 4

13:52:42 <Zakim> I don't understand 'move agendum 6 to 4', josema

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'move agendum 6 to 4', josema

13:54:46 <josema> zakim, order is 1,2,3,6,4,5

José Alonso: zakim, order is 1,2,3,6,4,5

13:54:46 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I do not recognize a party named 'order'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, josema, I do not recognize a party named 'order'

13:55:01 <josema> agenda order is 1,2,3,6,4,5

José Alonso: agenda order is 1,2,3,6,4,5

13:55:04 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda?

13:55:29 <josema> agenda+ Editor's draft

José Alonso: agenda+ Editor's draft

13:55:39 <josema> agenda+ Deadlines and completeness

José Alonso: agenda+ Deadlines and completeness

13:55:49 <josema> agenda+ Open actions

José Alonso: agenda+ Open actions

13:55:58 <josema> agenda+ Next Meeting

José Alonso: agenda+ Next Meeting

13:56:01 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda?

13:56:37 <josema> trackbot, start telcon

José Alonso: trackbot, start telcon

13:56:39 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public

13:56:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be EGOV

13:56:41 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes

13:56:42 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
13:56:42 <trackbot> Date: 21 January 2009
13:56:56 <josema> chair: kevin, john
13:57:52 <kevin> I am here on IRC and about to jump on the conference line.

Kevin Novak: I am here on IRC and about to jump on the conference line.

13:58:07 <josema> hi kevin :)

José Alonso: hi kevin :)

14:00:23 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started

14:00:24 <Zakim> +Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema

14:00:46 <josema> zakim, who's here?

José Alonso: zakim, who's here?

14:00:46 <Zakim> On the phone I see Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Josema

14:00:47 <Zakim> On IRC I see kevin, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see kevin, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, trackbot

14:02:40 <Zakim> + +1.509.464.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.464.aaaa

14:03:15 <josema> zakim, aaaa is rachel

José Alonso: zakim, aaaa is rachel

14:03:16 <Zakim> +rachel; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +rachel; got it

14:03:42 <josema> zakim, who's here?

José Alonso: zakim, who's here?

14:03:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see Josema, rachel

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Josema, rachel

14:03:44 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, kevin, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Rachel, kevin, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, trackbot

14:03:58 <josema> zakim, rachel is Rachel

José Alonso: zakim, rachel is Rachel

14:03:58 <Zakim> +Rachel; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Rachel; got it

14:05:05 <Zakim> + +1.202.207.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.207.aabb

14:05:27 <Zakim> +john

Zakim IRC Bot: +john

14:05:38 <Zakim> + +1.301.455.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.301.455.aacc

14:05:40 <josema> zakim, aabb is kevin

José Alonso: zakim, aabb is kevin

14:05:40 <Zakim> +kevin; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +kevin; got it

14:05:49 <josema> zakim, aacc is owen

José Alonso: zakim, aacc is owen

14:05:49 <Zakim> +owen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +owen; got it

14:06:33 <Zakim> -Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema

14:07:07 <Zakim> +berrueta

Zakim IRC Bot: +berrueta

14:07:52 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda?

14:10:04 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda?

14:10:27 <john> I can scribe if Kevin wants to chair?

John Sheridan: I can scribe if Kevin wants to chair?

14:10:50 <josema> scribe: josema

(Scribe set to José Alonso)

14:11:01 <josema> move to next agendum

move to next agendum

14:11:01 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Appoint a scribe" taken up [from josema]

1. Appoint a scribe

14:11:19 <josema> me takes on scribing

me takes on scribing

14:11:25 <josema> move to next agendum

move to next agendum

14:11:25 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, josema

Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 1 was just opened, josema

14:11:29 <josema> close this agendum

close this agendum

14:11:33 <josema> move to next agendum

move to next agendum

14:11:33 <Zakim> agendum 2. "agenda adjustments" taken up [from josema]

2. agenda adjustments

14:11:40 <josema> close this agendum

close this agendum

14:11:44 <josema> move to next agendum

move to next agendum

14:11:44 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Debrief of recent Kevin/TimBL meeting" taken up [from josema]

3. Debrief of recent Kevin/TimBL meeting

14:12:03 <josema> kevin: met with TimBL at MIT, talked about challenges

Kevin Novak: met with TimBL at MIT, talked about challenges

14:12:32 <josema> ... eGov activity being long term, challenges of our first year

... eGov activity being long term, challenges of our first year

14:12:54 <josema> ... talked about optimism around Obama

... talked about optimism around Obama

14:13:18 <josema> ... issues paper important for people like new administration in the US

... issues paper important for people like new administration in the US

14:13:33 <josema> ... to understand importance of open standards, etc.

... to understand importance of open standards, etc.

14:13:59 <josema> ... Obama also talking about US being recognized as the lead in initiatives

... Obama also talking about US being recognized as the lead in initiatives

14:14:09 <josema> ... we need to review charter by May

... we need to review charter by May

14:14:18 <josema> ... setup agenda for next 1-2 years

... setup agenda for next 1-2 years

14:14:39 <josema> ... overall a good conversation

... overall a good conversation

14:14:59 <josema> ... Tim to give keynote at @@ event, gave him some ideas

... Tim to give keynote at TED event, gave him some ideas

14:15:23 <josema> ... also to Karen Myers, speech to focus on openness and transparency

... also to Karen Myers, speech to focus on openness and transparency

14:15:54 <josema> ... start on capitalizing on opportunities with new US Admin.

... start on capitalizing on opportunities with new US Admin.

14:16:19 <josema> ... also had lunch with KM, talked about our focus on high level issues

... also had lunch with KM, talked about our focus on high level issues

14:16:30 <josema> ... the need of coordination with other Groups at W3C

... the need of coordination with other Groups at W3C

14:17:03 <josema> ... the policy vs. technology differences

... the policy vs. technology differences

14:17:32 <josema> ... the upcoming AC Meeting, much strategic discussion expected

... the upcoming AC Meeting, much strategic discussion expected

14:18:19 <josema> ... development vs. deployment, need to get a better and bigger picture

... development vs. deployment, need to get a better and bigger picture

14:18:49 <josema> ... talked to TimBL about meeting at TWB back in November 2008

... talked to TimBL about meeting at TWB back in November 2008

14:19:10 <josema> ... there was discussion about technological issues in developing countries

... there was discussion about technological issues in developing countries

14:19:23 <josema> ... financial data, government services

... financial data, government services

14:19:53 <josema> ... Tim thinks it was a great brainstorming session, but not many conclusions yet

... Tim thinks it was a great brainstorming session, but not many conclusions yet

14:20:40 <josema> ... TWB championing eGov architecture in dev. countries??

... TWB championing eGov architecture in dev. countries??

14:21:15 <josema> ... need to work with legacy systems, but also long-term planning and new infrastructure in place

... need to work with legacy systems, but also long-term planning and new infrastructure in place

14:21:51 <josema> agenda?

agenda?

14:25:06 <josema> s/@@/TED
14:25:39 <josema> [connection between open government and open standards]

[connection between open government and open standards]

14:26:27 <josema> john: interesting how we can make SW work for Gov

John Sheridan: interesting how we can make SW work for Gov

14:26:43 <josema> ... there are some practical things that are easy to do and can be done today

... there are some practical things that are easy to do and can be done today

14:26:58 <josema> ... that would be the building blocks for future apps

... that would be the building blocks for future apps

14:27:37 <josema> owen: any specific actions came out of the meeting?

Owen Ambur: any specific actions came out of the meeting?

14:28:49 <josema> kevin: 1)publish our document, maybe in pieces??, 2)re-charter, 3)asked Tim, others to support our work, 4)funding, emphasized the importance of our work

Kevin Novak: 1)publish our document, maybe in pieces??, 2)re-charter, 3)asked Tim, others to support our work, 4)funding, emphasized the importance of our work

14:29:17 <josema> ... 5)need to outreach in conferences

... 5)need to outreach in conferences

14:29:47 <josema> owen: good, I will think about it and things we could do to support those

Owen Ambur: good, I will think about it and things we could do to support those

14:29:50 <josema> agenda?

agenda?

14:30:03 <josema> move to next agendum

move to next agendum

14:30:08 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Confirmed: 2nd F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009)" taken up [from josema]

4. Confirmed: 2nd F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009)

14:30:29 <josema> kevin: confirmed meeting at AIA, board room can host up to 65??

Kevin Novak: confirmed meeting at AIA, board room can host up to 65??

14:30:49 <josema> ... calls are good, but some F2F could also help us focus better

... calls are good, but some F2F could also help us focus better

14:31:00 <josema> ... on where we are, what we should do, how to move forward

... on where we are, what we should do, how to move forward

14:31:17 <josema> ... expect it will help energize people

... expect it will help energize people

14:31:53 <josema> ... also taking advantage of new US Admin.

... also taking advantage of new US Admin.

14:32:16 <josema> rachel: I'm disappointed because of not getting more people on calls

Rachel Flagg: I'm disappointed because of not getting more people on calls

14:32:36 <josema> ... understand all very busy, but this is an important and huge topic

... understand all very busy, but this is an important and huge topic

14:33:02 <josema> kevin: agree

Kevin Novak: agree

14:34:13 <josema> agenda?

agenda?

14:34:51 <josema> owen: I presume people are not in calls because they have more urgent and important things to do

Owen Ambur: I presume people are not in calls because they have more urgent and important things to do

14:35:11 <josema> ... we should try to reflect their issues they are trying to solve in the paper???

... we should try to reflect their issues they are trying to solve in the paper???

14:36:35 <john> q+

John Sheridan: q+

14:36:37 <josema> ... I think it's because people is busy, not because they are not interested

... I think it's because people is busy, not because they are not interested

14:36:40 <josema> q?

q?

14:37:10 <josema> zakim, take up agendum 7

zakim, take up agendum 7

14:37:10 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Editor's draft" taken up [from josema]

5. Editor's draft

14:37:25 <josema> [kevin on document authorship]

[kevin on document authorship]

14:39:42 <josema> ack john

ack john

14:40:01 <josema> [jose on authorship, message is coming, sorry for the dealy]

[jose on authorship, message is coming, sorry for the dealy]

14:40:20 <josema> john: besides draft, how can we encourage people to attend?

John Sheridan: besides draft, how can we encourage people to attend?

14:40:47 <josema> ... we organized a barcamp recently and 150+ people showed up

... we organized a barcamp recently and 150+ people showed up

14:41:08 <josema> ... seats were gone in just 24 hours??

... seats were gone in just 24 hours??

14:44:43 <Zakim> + +34.98.439.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +34.98.439.aadd

14:44:54 <josema> zakim, aaadd is oscar

zakim, aaadd is oscar

14:44:54 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I do not recognize a party named 'aaadd'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, josema, I do not recognize a party named 'aaadd'

14:45:00 <josema> zakim, aadd is oscar

zakim, aadd is oscar

14:45:00 <Zakim> +oscar; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +oscar; got it

14:45:05 <ocr> hi all

Scribe problem: the name 'ocr' does not match any of the 38 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi Ilker Karakas Jeffrey Sonstein John Sheridan John Wonderlich José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Martin Mollema Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tanya Gupta Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'ocr' does not match any of the 38 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi Ilker Karakas Jeffrey Sonstein John Sheridan John Wonderlich José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Martin Mollema Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tanya Gupta Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown ocr: hi all

14:45:16 <josema> [jose on lowering barriers as much as possible]

[jose on lowering barriers as much as possible]

14:45:18 <ocr> sorry for being late - coming from the never ending meeting :(

Scribe problem: the name 'ocr' does not match any of the 38 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi Ilker Karakas Jeffrey Sonstein John Sheridan John Wonderlich José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Martin Mollema Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tanya Gupta Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'ocr' does not match any of the 38 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi Ilker Karakas Jeffrey Sonstein John Sheridan John Wonderlich José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Martin Mollema Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tanya Gupta Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown ocr: sorry for being late - coming from the never ending meeting :(

14:45:52 <josema> kevin: yes, room holds 65

Kevin Novak: yes, room holds 65

14:46:10 <josema> ... if we could have a very good speaker, that could also help

... if we could have a very good speaker, that could also help

14:46:15 <josema> owen: any idea on who?

Owen Ambur: any idea on who?

14:46:37 <josema> kevin: not yet, maybe someone from the Obama administration

Kevin Novak: not yet, maybe someone from the Obama administration

14:46:59 <josema> ... tried to get one from the campaign to speak at AIA but everybody too busy right now

... tried to get one from the campaign to speak at AIA but everybody too busy right now

14:47:32 <josema> owen: obviously the head of technology of his transition Team, but probably a long shot

Owen Ambur: obviously the head of technology of his transition Team, but probably a long shot

14:47:40 <josema> kevin: I agree

Kevin Novak: I agree

14:47:51 <josema> rachel: let me think about it

Rachel Flagg: let me think about it

14:47:59 <josema> owen: I'll give it some thought, too

Owen Ambur: I'll give it some thought, too

14:48:27 <josema> kevin: reaching out to FIRM, so maybe they would like to participate, too

Kevin Novak: reaching out to FIRM, so maybe they would like to participate, too

14:48:38 <josema> ... thanks Owen for putting us in touch, btw

... thanks Owen for putting us in touch, btw

14:48:44 <josema> owen: ok

Owen Ambur: ok

14:49:14 <josema> john: I don't think it would be difficult to get a bunch of people

John Sheridan: I don't think it would be difficult to get a bunch of people

14:49:31 <josema> ... many people interested in discussing pressing issues

... many people interested in discussing pressing issues

14:50:13 <josema> ... if we can have an easy for people to figure out how to participate

... if we can have an easy for people to figure out how to participate

14:50:22 <josema> ... we may use some tools

... we may use some tools

14:50:47 <josema> ... will use my Twitter

... will use my Twitter

14:51:03 <josema> [[me did this so far:

[[me did this so far:

14:51:05 <josema>   http://www.w3.org/blog/egov/2009/01/17/egovig_f2f_2

http://www.w3.org/blog/egov/2009/01/17/egovig_f2f_2

14:51:05 <josema>   http://www.epractice.eu/document/5372

http://www.epractice.eu/document/5372

14:51:05 <josema>   http://www.govloop.com/events/w3c-egovernment-interest-group

http://www.govloop.com/events/w3c-egovernment-interest-group

14:51:05 <josema>   http://events.linkedin.com/pub/29772

http://events.linkedin.com/pub/29772

14:51:06 <josema> ]]

]]

14:52:02 <josema> kevin: we may have a PR piece that we could circulate to those

Kevin Novak: we may have a PR piece that we could circulate to those

14:52:07 <john> like always Jose, one step ahead

John Sheridan: like always Jose, one step ahead

14:55:12 <josema> jose: what else to do besides that?

José Alonso: what else to do besides that?

14:55:37 <josema> kevin: we are doing our best effort, let's outreach to our networks

Kevin Novak: we are doing our best effort, let's outreach to our networks

14:56:14 <josema> jose: very much believe we need to get the draft out, and things will change for good

José Alonso: very much believe we need to get the draft out, and things will change for better

14:56:17 <josema> kevin: agree

Kevin Novak: agree

14:56:30 <josema> s/good/better
14:56:51 <john> Have tweeted: http://twitter.com/johnlsheridan/status/1136357938

John Sheridan: Have tweeted: http://twitter.com/johnlsheridan/status/1136357938

14:57:04 <josema> owen: in my experience, this comes down to 2-3 committed individuals to do the drating

Owen Ambur: in my experience, this comes down to 2-3 committed individuals to do the drafting

14:57:08 <josema> s/drating/drafting
14:57:12 <josema> agenda?

agenda?

14:57:24 <josema> zakim, close agendum 6

zakim, close agendum 6

14:57:24 <Zakim> agendum 6, Confirmed: 2nd F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009), closed

Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 6, Confirmed: 2nd F2F @ AIA (12-13 March 2009), closed

14:57:25 <Zakim> I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

Zakim IRC Bot: I see 6 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

14:57:26 <Zakim> 4. CEN eGov-Share comments sent [from josema]

Zakim IRC Bot: 4. CEN eGov-Share comments sent [from josema]

14:57:51 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2009/01/W3C-CEN-eGov-Share-comments

http://www.w3.org/2009/01/W3C-CEN-eGov-Share-comments

14:59:43 <josema> agenda?

agenda?

15:00:53 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum

zakim, take up next agendum

15:00:53 <Zakim> agendum 4. "CEN eGov-Share comments sent" taken up [from josema]

6. CEN eGov-Share comments sent

15:01:01 <josema> zakim, close this agendum

zakim, close this agendum

15:01:01 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed

Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 4 closed

15:01:02 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

Zakim IRC Bot: I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

15:01:03 <Zakim> 5. New Use Cases [from josema]

Zakim IRC Bot: 5. New Use Cases [from josema]

15:01:05 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum

zakim, take up next agendum

15:01:05 <Zakim> agendum 5. "New Use Cases" taken up [from josema]

7. New Use Cases

15:01:18 <josema> [[    http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Case_10_-_Persistent_URIs

[[ http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Case_10_-_Persistent_URIs

15:01:19 <josema>     http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Case_11_-_Identification_Authentication

http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Case_11_-_Identification_Authentication

15:01:19 <josema>     http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Case_12_-_Risk_Management_for_Social_Media

http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/Use_Case_12_-_Risk_Management_for_Social_Media

15:01:19 <josema> ]]

]]

15:04:09 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/UseCases/

http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/UseCases/

15:10:26 <josema> [jose on need for stable location]

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[jose on need for stable location]

15:11:06 <josema> [kevin, john agree]

[kevin, john agree]

15:11:31 <josema> [jose on difference between use cases and case studies]

[jose on difference between use cases and case studies]

15:12:37 <josema> many thanks to Martin Alvarez (W3C.es) for helping me put together the stuff!

many thanks to Martin Alvarez (W3C.es) for helping me put together the stuff!

15:12:45 <josema> agenda?

agenda?

15:13:16 <josema> [john on government changes and persistence]

[john on government changes and persistence]

15:13:38 <josema> john: whitehouse.gov as example, fully changed yesterday

John Sheridan: whitehouse.gov as example, fully changed yesterday

15:14:53 <josema> owen: I haven't realized, but I was trying to find a OMB circular that is not available

Owen Ambur: I haven't realized, but I was trying to find a OMB circular that is not available

15:15:08 <josema> rachel: maybe at a different address than where it was last night

Rachel Flagg: maybe at a different address than where it was last night

15:15:29 <josema> agenda?

agenda?

15:17:22 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open

http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open

15:18:10 <josema> ACTION rachel to provide use case on social media

ACTION rachel to provide use case on social media

15:18:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-42 - Provide use case on social media [on Rachel Flagg - due 2009-01-28].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-42 - Provide use case on social media [on Rachel Flagg - due 2009-01-28].

15:18:24 <josema> ACTION rachel to provide use case on "plain language"

ACTION rachel to provide use case on "plain language"

15:18:25 <trackbot> Created ACTION-43 - Provide use case on \"plain language\" [on Rachel Flagg - due 2009-01-28].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-43 - Provide use case on \"plain language\" [on Rachel Flagg - due 2009-01-28].

15:19:09 <josema> agenda?

agenda?

15:19:30 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum

zakim, take up next agendum

15:19:30 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Deadlines and completeness" taken up [from josema]

8. Deadlines and completeness

15:19:50 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/ActivityPlan

http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/ActivityPlan

15:23:15 <josema> [jose on deadlines]

[jose on deadlines]

15:23:33 <josema> jose: propose 28 February as hard deadline

José Alonso: propose 28 February as hard deadline

15:25:25 <josema> kevin: ok

Kevin Novak: ok

15:25:27 <josema> john: ok

John Sheridan: ok

15:25:59 <josema> oscar: also interested in interop

Oscar Azanon Esteire: also interested in interop

15:26:09 <josema> jose: I'm putting john, oscar there

José Alonso: I'm putting john, oscar there

15:26:11 <josema> agenda?

agenda?

15:26:31 <josema> take up next agendum

take up next agendum

15:26:33 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open

http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open

15:27:43 <josema> agenda?

agenda?

15:28:06 <josema> next meeting: 4 Feb

next meeting: 4 Feb

15:28:50 <Zakim> -kevin

Zakim IRC Bot: -kevin

15:28:52 <Zakim> -owen

Zakim IRC Bot: -owen

15:28:53 <Zakim> -Rachel

Zakim IRC Bot: -Rachel

15:28:55 <Zakim> -josema

Zakim IRC Bot: -josema

15:28:55 <Zakim> -john

Zakim IRC Bot: -john

15:29:00 <josema> [ADJOURNED]

[ADJOURNED]

15:31:06 <josema> zakim, list attendees

zakim, list attendees

15:31:06 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Josema, +1.509.464.aaaa, Rachel, +1.202.207.aabb, john, +1.301.455.aacc, kevin, owen, +34.98.439.aadd, oscar

Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been Josema, +1.509.464.aaaa, Rachel, +1.202.207.aabb, john, +1.301.455.aacc, kevin, owen, +34.98.439.aadd, oscar

15:31:12 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes

rrsagent, draft minutes

15:31:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-minutes.html josema

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-minutes.html josema

15:31:16 <Zakim> -oscar

Zakim IRC Bot: -oscar

15:31:18 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended

15:31:19 <Zakim> Attendees were Josema, +1.509.464.aaaa, Rachel, +1.202.207.aabb, john, +1.301.455.aacc, kevin, owen, +34.98.439.aadd, oscar

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Josema, +1.509.464.aaaa, Rachel, +1.202.207.aabb, john, +1.301.455.aacc, kevin, owen, +34.98.439.aadd, oscar

15:42:26 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes

(No events recorded for 11 minutes)

rrsagent, draft minutes

15:42:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-minutes.html josema

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-minutes.html josema

16:05:52 <josema> agenda?

(No events recorded for 23 minutes)

agenda?

16:06:07 <josema> next agendum

next agendum

16:06:17 <josema> zakim, next agendum

zakim, next agendum

16:06:23 <josema> zakim, take up next agendum

zakim, take up next agendum

16:06:24 <Zakim> agendum 10 was just opened, josema

Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 10 was just opened, josema

16:06:30 <Zakim> agendum 10 was just opened, josema

Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 10 was just opened, josema

16:06:39 <josema> zakim, close agendum

zakim, close agendum

16:06:42 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close agendum', josema

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'close agendum', josema

16:06:47 <josema> zakim, close this agendum

zakim, close this agendum

16:06:47 <Zakim> agendum 10 closed

Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 10 closed

16:06:48 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda

Zakim IRC Bot: I see nothing remaining on the agenda

16:06:51 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes

rrsagent, draft minutes

16:06:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-minutes.html josema

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/01/21-egov-minutes.html josema

16:25:00 <josema> zakim, bye

(No events recorded for 18 minutes)

zakim, bye

16:25:04 <josema> rrsagent, bye

rrsagent, bye

16:25:04 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items



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