Meeting Record

eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference

Minutes of 26 November 2008

Seen: Anne Washington, José Alonso, Kevin Novak, Owen Ambur, Rachel Flagg, Unknown OCR
Chair: Kevin Novak
Scribe: Rachel Flagg
IRC Log: Original
Resolutions: None.
Topics

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13:59:54 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-egov-irc

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14:00:29 <josema> chair: kevin

14:00:42 <josema> trackbot, start telcon

José Alonso: trackbot, start telcon ←

14:00:45 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public

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14:00:47 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be EGOV ←

14:00:47 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start now

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start now ←

14:00:48 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference

14:00:48 <trackbot> Date: 26 November 2008

14:00:52 <josema> zakim, who's here?

José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←

14:00:52 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has not yet started, josema

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14:00:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot ←

14:01:09 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started

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14:01:10 <Zakim> +rachel

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14:01:39 <josema> zakim, who's here?

José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←

14:01:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see rachel ←

14:01:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot ←

14:03:11 <Zakim> +owen

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14:03:13 <Zakim> -owen

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14:03:13 <Zakim> +owen

Zakim IRC Bot: +owen ←

14:03:26 <josema> zakim, who's here?

José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←

14:03:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see rachel, owen ←

14:03:27 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot ←

14:03:32 <josema> agenda+ Appoint a scribe

José Alonso: agenda+ Appoint a scribe ←

14:03:47 <josema> agenda+ Convene, agenda adjustments

José Alonso: agenda+ Convene, agenda adjustments ←

14:03:59 <josema> agenda+ Updated Activity Plan and Milestones

José Alonso: agenda+ Updated Activity Plan and Milestones ←

14:04:12 <josema> agenda+ Open actions

José Alonso: agenda+ Open actions ←

14:04:18 <Zakim> +kevin

Zakim IRC Bot: +kevin ←

14:04:21 <josema> agenda+ Review of evolution of use cases

José Alonso: agenda+ Review of evolution of use cases ←

14:04:31 <Rachel> I can scribe - do you just want notes of the phone conversation recorded in IRC?

Rachel Flagg: I can scribe - do you just want notes of the phone conversation recorded in IRC? ←

14:04:47 <josema> agenda+ Next Meeting - proposed next call: 10 Dec

José Alonso: agenda+ Next Meeting - proposed next call: 10 Dec ←

14:04:49 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda? ←

14:05:09 <josema> zakim, who's here?

José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←

14:05:09 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin ←

14:05:10 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot ←

14:06:13 <Zakim> +Josema

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14:06:40 <Zakim> -Josema

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14:06:44 <Zakim> +Josema

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14:07:17 <Zakim> -Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema ←

14:07:37 <Zakim> +Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema ←

14:08:01 <josema> zakim, who's here?

José Alonso: zakim, who's here? ←

14:08:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, Josema ←

14:08:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, josema, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot ←

14:08:15 <Zakim> -Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema ←

14:08:30 <Zakim> +Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema ←

14:08:52 <Zakim> -Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema ←

14:09:12 <Rachel> John likely will not make the call today

Rachel Flagg: John likely will not make the call today ←

14:09:39 <Zakim> +Josema

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14:10:08 <Zakim> -Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema ←

14:12:09 <Rachel> Chris Testa will not make the call today, traveling, but will have a status update next week

Rachel Flagg: Chris Testa will not make the call today, traveling, but will have a status update next week ←

14:13:10 <Zakim> +Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema ←

14:13:50 <Rachel> I'm scribe today

Rachel Flagg: I'm scribe today ←

14:13:55 <josema> scribe: rachel

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14:14:30 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda? ←

14:16:02 <Rachel> discussing importance of user experience.  As we build all these test cases around "back-end" topics, must also include guidance on how the user will benefit from, and interact with, their government online

discussing importance of user experience. As we build all these test cases around "back-end" topics, must also include guidance on how the user will benefit from, and interact with, their government online ←

14:16:10 <Zakim> -Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema ←

14:16:55 <Rachel> intent is to have each use case address front-end, as well as back-end.

intent is to have each use case address front-end, as well as back-end. ←

14:18:41 <Rachel> Kevin reports World Bank recently hosted a meeting, and one of the topics was e-gov

Kevin reports World Bank recently hosted a meeting, and one of the topics was e-gov ←

14:20:45 <Rachel> Many challenges exist to implementing good eGov, outside of just technical

Many challenges exist to implementing good eGov, outside of just technical ←

14:20:45 <Owen> With reference to the "front-end" (user interface), XUL and UIML may be of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XUL & http://www8.org/w8-papers/5b-hypertext-media/uiml/uiml.html

Owen Ambur: With reference to the "front-end" (user interface), XUL and UIML may be of interest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XUL & http://www8.org/w8-papers/5b-hypertext-media/uiml/uiml.html ←

14:20:58 <Rachel> zakim, who's here?

zakim, who's here? ←

14:20:58 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin ←

14:20:58 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot ←

14:21:39 <Zakim> +Josema

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14:22:50 <Rachel> Kevin will be updating Activity Plan with current due dates & milestones

Kevin will be updating Activity Plan with current due dates & milestones ←

14:23:06 <Rachel> zakim who's here?

zakim who's here? ←

14:23:16 <Rachel> zakim, who's here?

zakim, who's here? ←

14:23:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, Josema ←

14:23:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot ←

14:24:10 <Zakim> -Josema

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14:24:44 <Owen> See also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML_User_Interface

14:26:16 <Rachel> Kevins reports we'll have a straw man ready in early January, that the group can react to and comment on

Kevins reports we'll have a straw man ready in early January, that the group can react to and comment on ←

14:28:05 <Zakim> + +34.98.439.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +34.98.439.aaaa ←

14:28:45 <Rachel> Lots of renewed interest in the US by the incoming Administration, and opening up government, delivering services online

Lots of renewed interest in the US by the incoming Administration, and opening up government, delivering services online ←

14:30:17 <Zakim> + +34.64.736.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +34.64.736.aabb ←

14:32:42 <OCR> zakim, who is there

Scribe problem: the name 'OCR' does not match any of the 39 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi Ilker Karakas Jeffrey Sonstein John Sheridan John Wonderlich José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Martin Mollema Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tanya Gupta Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown OCR: zakim, who is there ←

14:32:42 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is there', OCR

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is there', OCR ←

14:33:18 <OCR> zakim, who's here?

Unknown OCR: zakim, who's here? ←

14:33:18 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, +34.98.439.aaaa, +34.64.736.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, +34.98.439.aaaa, +34.64.736.aabb ←

14:33:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see OCR, Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see OCR, Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot ←

14:33:36 <OCR> zakim, aaaa is OCR

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14:33:36 <Zakim> +OCR; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +OCR; got it ←

14:33:48 <OCR> zakim, who's here?

Unknown OCR: zakim, who's here? ←

14:33:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, OCR, +34.64.736.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see rachel, owen, kevin, OCR, +34.64.736.aabb ←

14:33:49 <Zakim> On IRC I see OCR, Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see OCR, Rachel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Owen, darobin, kjetil, trackbot ←

14:35:35 <Rachel> use cases are due as soon as you can finish them

use cases are due as soon as you can finish them ←

14:38:04 <Rachel> Jose has been reaching out to interested parties to get more input on use cases

Jose has been reaching out to interested parties to get more input on use cases ←

14:40:01 <Rachel> W3C SWEO - Symantic Web Education & Outreach - also working on use cases.  Jose recommends we follow their model.

W3C SWEO - Symantic Web Education & Outreach - also working on use cases. Jose recommends we follow their model. ←

14:41:25 <Rachel> Should look at use cases put together by other groups working on similar initiatives

Should look at use cases put together by other groups working on similar initiatives ←

14:43:57 <Rachel> see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/  Semantic Web Education and Outreach (SWEO) Interest Group

see http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/sweo/ Semantic Web Education and Outreach (SWEO) Interest Group ←

14:47:48 <Rachel> Kevin recently addressed Web Mavens group (WA DC-based), and will also speak at Web Managers Roundtable about eGov

Kevin recently addressed Web Mavens group (WA DC-based), and will also speak at Web Managers Roundtable about eGov ←

15:11:42 <Rachel> Regarding use cases - the US web community has lots of things in the works now around social media & web 2.0, but no "final" work products ready yet.  Still, a use case on these efforts would be valuable, showing lessons learned.  Jose mentioned other work being done by the UK and New Zealand around social media

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Regarding use cases - the US web community has lots of things in the works now around social media & web 2.0, but no "final" work products ready yet. Still, a use case on these efforts would be valuable, showing lessons learned. Jose mentioned other work being done by the UK and New Zealand around social media ←

15:11:48 <anne> leave

Anne Washington: leave ←

15:11:50 <Rachel> RSS Agent:  draft minutes

RSS Agent: draft minutes ←

15:12:04 <Rachel> RSS Agent: draft minutes

RSS Agent: draft minutes ←

15:12:25 <Rachel> rss agent:draft minutes

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15:12:40 <Rachel> rrs agent, draft minutes

rrs agent, draft minutes ←

15:12:51 <Rachel> RRS Agent: draft minutes

RRS Agent: draft minutes ←

15:13:08 <Rachel> rrsagent: draft minutes

RRSAgent IRC Bot: draft minutes ←

15:13:08 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-egov-minutes.html Rachel

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-egov-minutes.html Rachel ←

15:13:53 <Rachel> Rachel will include examples from around the world in the social media use case draft

Rachel will include examples from around the world in the social media use case draft ←

15:14:39 <Rachel> everyone, please try to get your use cases drafted no later than December 10, so we can discuss at the next call on December 10

everyone, please try to get your use cases drafted no later than December 10, so we can discuss at the next call on December 10 ←

15:18:31 <Rachel> Owen and Kevin will not be at next call - Owen at XML conference, Kevin at Web Manager Roundtable

Owen and Kevin will not be at next call - Owen at XML conference, Kevin at Web Manager Roundtable ←

15:19:40 <Zakim> -owen

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15:19:41 <Zakim> -kevin

Zakim IRC Bot: -kevin ←

15:19:43 <Zakim> - +34.64.736.aabb

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15:19:44 <Zakim> -rachel

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15:19:44 <Zakim> -OCR

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15:19:46 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended

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15:19:47 <Zakim> Attendees were rachel, owen, kevin, Josema, +34.98.439.aaaa, +34.64.736.aabb, OCR

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were rachel, owen, kevin, Josema, +34.98.439.aaaa, +34.64.736.aabb, OCR ←

15:20:11 <Rachel> rssagent: draft minutes

Scribe problem: the name 'rssagent' does not match any of the 39 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Anne Washington Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi Ilker Karakas Jeffrey Sonstein John Sheridan John Wonderlich José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Martin Mollema Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tanya Gupta Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vagner Diniz Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

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15:20:21 <Rachel> rrsagent: draft minutes

RRSAgent IRC Bot: draft minutes ←

15:20:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-egov-minutes.html Rachel

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15:49:42 <anne> quit

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Anne Washington: quit ←

16:24:58 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes

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José Alonso: rrsagent, draft minutes ←

16:24:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/11/26-egov-minutes.html josema

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16:25:09 <josema> zakim, list attendees

José Alonso: zakim, list attendees ←

16:25:09 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is ←

16:25:15 <josema> zakim, bye

José Alonso: zakim, bye ←

16:31:20 <josema> rrsagent, draft minutes -implicitContinuations

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José Alonso: rrsagent, draft minutes -implicitContinuations ←

16:31:20 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minutes -implicitContinuations', josema.  Try /msg RRSAgent help

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17:30:06 <josema> rrsagent, bye

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José Alonso: rrsagent, bye ←

17:30:07 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

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