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eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference

Minutes of 03 September 2008

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12:56:25 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/09/03-egov-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2008/09/03-egov-irc

12:56:27 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs public

12:56:29 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be EGOV

12:56:29 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot; I see T&S_EGOV()9:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes

12:56:30 <trackbot> Meeting: eGovernment Interest Group Teleconference
12:56:30 <trackbot> Date: 03 September 2008
12:56:51 <josema> agenda+ Convene, agenda adjustments

José Alonso: agenda+ Convene, agenda adjustments

12:57:01 <josema> agenda+ Introductions - new people onboard

José Alonso: agenda+ Introductions - new people onboard

12:57:14 <josema> agenda+ Review of open action items

José Alonso: agenda+ Review of open action items

12:57:26 <josema> agenda+ Face to Face Meeting

José Alonso: agenda+ Face to Face Meeting

12:57:42 <josema> agenda+ Compilation of Use Cases + Group Outline

José Alonso: agenda+ Compilation of Use Cases + Group Outline

12:57:44 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has now started

12:57:51 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea

Zakim IRC Bot: +Katie_Haritos-Shea

12:58:01 <josema> agenda+ Group Activity Plan

José Alonso: agenda+ Group Activity Plan

12:58:15 <josema> agenda+ Liaisons: review

José Alonso: agenda+ Liaisons: review

12:58:21 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda?

12:58:36 <Zakim> +Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema

12:59:48 <Zakim> +??P9

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9

13:00:13 <Zakim> -??P9

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P9

13:00:33 <Zakim> + +1.301.455.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.301.455.aaaa

13:01:00 <Zakim> +??P9

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9

13:01:19 <Zakim> + +39.25.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +39.25.aabb

13:01:32 <Zakim> + +1.202.731.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.731.aacc

13:01:42 <Beng> zakim +39.25.aabb is Beng

Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Beng: zakim +39.25.aabb is Beng

13:01:59 <Zakim> - +1.301.455.aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.301.455.aaaa

13:02:19 <Zakim> + +1.509.464.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.464.aadd

13:02:20 <Zakim> + +1.202.256.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.256.aaee

13:02:34 <kjetil> Zakim, code?

Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, code?

13:02:34 <Zakim> the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), kjetil

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3468 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), kjetil

13:03:09 <josema> zakim, aabb is Benjamin

José Alonso: zakim, aabb is Benjamin

13:03:10 <Zakim> +Benjamin; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Benjamin; got it

13:03:31 <josema> zakim, aacc is kevin

José Alonso: zakim, aacc is kevin

13:03:31 <Zakim> +kevin; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +kevin; got it

13:03:40 <Zakim> + +1.301.384.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.301.384.aaff

13:04:02 <josema> zakim, aaff is Owen

José Alonso: zakim, aaff is Owen

13:04:02 <Zakim> +Owen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Owen; got it

13:04:44 <josema> zakim, who's here?

José Alonso: zakim, who's here?

13:04:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, Josema, ??P9, Benjamin, kevin, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.202.256.aaee, Owen

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, Josema, ??P9, Benjamin, kevin, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.202.256.aaee, Owen

13:04:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Beng, pasquale, darobin, josema, kjetil, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Beng, pasquale, darobin, josema, kjetil, trackbot

13:05:07 <josema> kjetil, are you around?

José Alonso: kjetil, are you around?

13:05:15 <josema> you are supposed to scribe today

José Alonso: you are supposed to scribe today

13:05:23 <kjetil> josema, yeah, but phone problems

Kjetil Kjernsmo: josema, yeah, but phone problems

13:05:54 <josema> scribe: josema

(Scribe set to José Alonso)

13:06:04 <josema> zakim, take up agendum 1

zakim, take up agendum 1

13:06:04 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Convene, agenda adjustments" taken up [from josema]

1. Convene, agenda adjustments

13:06:33 <josema> kevin: welcome everybody, thanks for coming

Kevin Novak: welcome everybody, thanks for coming

13:07:51 <Zakim> +??P18

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P18

13:07:58 <kjetil> Zakim, ??P18

Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, ??P18

13:07:58 <Zakim> I don't understand '??P18', kjetil

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '??P18', kjetil

13:08:02 <kjetil> Zakim, ??P18 is me

Kjetil Kjernsmo: Zakim, ??P18 is me

13:08:02 <Zakim> +kjetil; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +kjetil; got it

13:08:27 <josema> scribe: kjetil

(Scribe set to Kjetil Kjernsmo)

13:08:29 <kjetil> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me

13:08:29 <Zakim> kjetil should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil should now be muted

13:08:53 <Beng> Zakim, Benjamin is Beng

Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Beng: Zakim, Benjamin is Beng

13:08:53 <Zakim> +Beng; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Beng; got it

13:10:28 <josema> [introducing new Members]

José Alonso: [introducing new Members]

13:10:55 <josema> [Tanya, John not here, jose and Kevin give short intro]

José Alonso: [Tanya, John not here, jose and Kevin give short intro]

13:11:33 <kjetil> John runs the openhouse project

John runs the openhouse project

13:11:43 <josema> [Ari mentions Openhouse project by Sunlight]

José Alonso: [Ari mentions Openhouse project by Sunlight]

13:13:04 <josema> [Trond introduces himself]

José Alonso: [Trond introduces himself]

13:13:05 <kjetil> Representative from Oracle

Representative from Oracle

13:13:29 <kjetil> has previously worked for the European Commission

has previously worked for the European Commission

13:13:43 <kjetil> josema: Martijn is not around either

José Alonso: Martijn is not around either

13:15:35 <kjetil> josema: I got regrets from a few people, but not all, so it is difficult to know who is on the call

José Alonso: I got regrets from a few people, but not all, so it is difficult to know who is on the call

13:15:51 <kjetil> josema: please send us your regrets to the mailing list, or the chairs

José Alonso: please send us your regrets to the mailing list, or the chairs

13:16:52 <kjetil> josema: we have to pre-book ports on the conference system, so please let us know a little in advance

José Alonso: we have to pre-book ports on the conference system, so please let us know a little in advance

13:17:18 <josema> zakim, move to next agendum

José Alonso: zakim, move to next agendum

13:17:18 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Introductions - new people onboard" taken up [from josema]

2. Introductions - new people onboard

13:17:22 <josema> zakim, move to next agendum

José Alonso: zakim, move to next agendum

13:17:22 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, josema

Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 2 was just opened, josema

13:17:29 <josema> zakim, close this agendum

José Alonso: zakim, close this agendum

13:17:29 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed

Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 2 closed

13:17:30 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

Zakim IRC Bot: I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

13:17:31 <Zakim> 3. Review of open action items [from josema]

Zakim IRC Bot: 3. Review of open action items [from josema]

13:17:32 <josema> zakim, move to next agendum

José Alonso: zakim, move to next agendum

13:17:32 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Review of open action items" taken up [from josema]

3. Review of open action items

13:17:40 <josema> http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open

José Alonso: http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/track/actions/open

13:18:26 <kjetil> josema: mentions some long acronyms we should be in touch with

José Alonso: mentions some long acronyms we should be in touch with

13:18:47 <kjetil> josema: we are charted to find ways to cooperate

José Alonso: we are chartered to find ways to cooperate

13:19:28 <kjetil> Zakim: who is talking?

Zakim IRC Bot: who is talking?

13:19:35 <josema> s/charted/chartered
13:19:59 <kjetil> right

right

13:20:22 <josema> [reviewing liaisons here]

José Alonso: [reviewing liaisons here]

13:20:41 <kjetil> Kevin is reporting on ongoing efforts to establish collaborations

Kevin is reporting on ongoing efforts to establish collaborations

13:20:52 <josema> [potential joint event with OASIS in March in DC]

José Alonso: [potential joint event with OASIS in March in DC]

13:21:11 <josema> [The World Bank could provide room and some logistics]

José Alonso: [The World Bank could provide room and some logistics]

13:21:13 <Zakim> +??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P19

13:21:15 <Zakim> + +1.202.488.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.488.aagg

13:21:42 <josema> [late March]

José Alonso: [late March]

13:22:00 <josema> zakim, whos's noisy

José Alonso: zakim, whos's noisy

13:22:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'whos's noisy', josema

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'whos's noisy', josema

13:22:04 <josema> zakim, who's noisy

José Alonso: zakim, who's noisy

13:22:04 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who's noisy', josema

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who's noisy', josema

13:22:08 <josema> zakim, who's noisy?

José Alonso: zakim, who's noisy?

13:22:09 <kjetil> Zakim, who is talking?

Zakim, who is talking?

13:22:18 <Zakim> josema, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (24%), kevin (91%), ??P19 (20%)

Zakim IRC Bot: josema, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (24%), kevin (91%), ??P19 (20%)

13:22:26 <josema> zakim, mute me

José Alonso: zakim, mute me

13:22:26 <Zakim> Josema should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Josema should now be muted

13:22:29 <Zakim> kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (14%), kevin (50%), ??P19 (35%), +1.202.488.aagg (5%)

Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (14%), kevin (50%), ??P19 (35%), +1.202.488.aagg (5%)

13:23:14 <josema> [talked about funding, they are putting together an internal proposal??]

José Alonso: [talked about funding, they are putting together an internal proposal??]

13:23:26 <josema> [talked about open standards and the use in their projects]

José Alonso: [talked about open standards and the use in their projects]

13:23:45 <josema> zakim, who's noisy?

José Alonso: zakim, who's noisy?

13:23:55 <Zakim> josema, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: kevin (90%), ??P19 (54%)

Zakim IRC Bot: josema, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: kevin (90%), ??P19 (54%)

13:24:04 <josema> zakim, who is ??P19

José Alonso: zakim, who is ??P19

13:24:04 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is ??P19', josema

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is ??P19', josema

13:24:09 <chris> i'm on

Christopher Testa: i'm on

13:24:17 <josema> zakim, mute ??P19

José Alonso: zakim, mute ??P19

13:24:17 <Zakim> ??P19 should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: ??P19 should now be muted

13:24:28 <kjetil> Zakim, ??P19 is chris

Zakim, ??P19 is chris

13:24:28 <Zakim> +chris; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +chris; got it

13:24:33 <kjetil> right?

right?

13:24:41 <josema> hope so

José Alonso: hope so

13:24:46 <chris> not sure

Christopher Testa: not sure

13:24:59 <josema> maybe aagg

José Alonso: maybe aagg

13:25:13 <josema> chris, is your number +1.202.488--something

José Alonso: chris, is your number +1.202.488--something

13:25:16 <josema> ?

José Alonso: ?

13:25:32 <chris> yes, that's me. i'm on mute

Christopher Testa: yes, that's me. i'm on mute

13:25:35 <kjetil> Kevin will be speaking with government official in late sept

Kevin will be speaking with government official in late sept

13:25:35 <josema> [kevin to speak at FIRM event on September, 24th]

José Alonso: [kevin to speak at FIRM event on September, 24th]

13:25:57 <josema> zakim, aagg is chris

José Alonso: zakim, aagg is chris

13:25:57 <Zakim> +chris; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +chris; got it

13:26:41 <josema> ack me

José Alonso: ack me

13:27:33 <kjetil> Zakim, unmute ??P19

Zakim, unmute ??P19

13:27:33 <Zakim> sorry, kjetil, I do not know which phone connection belongs to ??P19

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, kjetil, I do not know which phone connection belongs to ??P19

13:28:29 <kjetil> josema: let us look at wikis for the TF's, lets also hear their leaders

José Alonso: let us look at wikis for the TF's, lets also hear their leaders

13:29:10 <kjetil> Kevin: before we do that, let us go back to the workshop in spring

Kevin Novak: before we do that, let us go back to the workshop in spring

13:29:24 <kjetil> Kevin: what should that look like?

Kevin Novak: what should that look like?

13:29:37 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda?

13:30:14 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda?

13:30:28 <josema> zakim, close agendum 3

José Alonso: zakim, close agendum 3

13:30:28 <Zakim> agendum 3, Review of open action items, closed

Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 3, Review of open action items, closed

13:30:29 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

Zakim IRC Bot: I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

13:30:30 <Zakim> 4. Face to Face Meeting [from josema]

Zakim IRC Bot: 4. Face to Face Meeting [from josema]

13:30:39 <kjetil> kevin: we are allready two weeks into the time span for this group, and we need to speed up now

Kevin Novak: we are already two weeks into the time span for this group, and we need to speed up now

13:30:57 <josema> s/allready/already
13:31:12 <josema> ->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/GroupOutline Group Outline

José Alonso: ->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/GroupOutline Group Outline

13:31:30 <josema> ->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/ActivityPlan Activity Plan

José Alonso: ->http://www.w3.org/2007/eGov/IG/wiki/ActivityPlan Activity Plan

13:32:46 <josema> [kevin reviews plan]

José Alonso: [kevin reviews plan]

13:33:44 <josema> zakim, who is here?

José Alonso: zakim, who is here?

13:33:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, Josema, ??P9, Beng, kevin, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.202.256.aaee, Owen, kjetil (muted), chris (muted), chris.a

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Katie_Haritos-Shea, Josema, ??P9, Beng, kevin, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.202.256.aaee, Owen, kjetil (muted), chris (muted), chris.a

13:33:46 <Zakim> On IRC I see chris, Zakim, RRSAgent, Beng, pasquale, darobin, josema, kjetil, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see chris, Zakim, RRSAgent, Beng, pasquale, darobin, josema, kjetil, trackbot

13:33:58 <josema> zakim, aadd is Rachel

José Alonso: zakim, aadd is Rachel

13:33:58 <Zakim> +Rachel; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Rachel; got it

13:35:05 <Zakim> - +1.202.256.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.202.256.aaee

13:35:06 <Zakim> +CDT

Zakim IRC Bot: +CDT

13:35:17 <josema> zakim, CDT is Ari

José Alonso: zakim, CDT is Ari

13:35:17 <Zakim> +Ari; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ari; got it

13:35:42 <josema> yes, we need feedback!!

José Alonso: yes, we need feedback!!

13:36:09 <josema> we need the expertise from the Group

José Alonso: we need the expertise from the Group

13:37:42 <kjetil> chris: I would like to review the group activity and align that with the actions for the task force

Christopher Testa: I would like to review the group activity and align that with the actions for the task force

13:38:15 <kjetil> josema: these plans are not fixed, they are food for thought

José Alonso: these plans are not fixed, they are food for thought

13:39:01 <kjetil> josema: we are trying to find out what the eGov Activity should be, not just for the present IG

José Alonso: we are trying to find out what the eGov Activity should be, not just for the present IG

13:39:20 <kjetil> josema: there are lots of questions about what we should do

José Alonso: there are lots of questions about what we should do

13:40:01 <kjetil> Zakim, who is noisy?

Zakim, who is noisy?

13:40:11 <Zakim> kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Katie_Haritos-Shea (25%), Josema (4%)

Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Katie_Haritos-Shea (25%), Josema (4%)

13:41:07 <kjetil> Zakim, who is noisy?

Zakim, who is noisy?

13:41:17 <Zakim> -kevin

Zakim IRC Bot: -kevin

13:41:18 <josema> [kevin leaves call]

José Alonso: [kevin leaves call]

13:41:18 <Zakim> kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Katie_Haritos-Shea (45%), Josema (30%), kevin (19%)

Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Katie_Haritos-Shea (45%), Josema (30%), kevin (19%)

13:41:31 <josema> zakim, mute Katie

José Alonso: zakim, mute Katie

13:41:31 <Zakim> Katie_Haritos-Shea should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Katie_Haritos-Shea should now be muted

13:42:25 <kjetil> josema: there is an article in ?? from some guys at Princeton about open government

José Alonso: there is an article in ?? from some guys at Princeton about open government

13:42:48 <kjetil> josema: it got a lot of attention, in blogs and so on

José Alonso: it got a lot of attention, in blogs and so on

13:43:08 <kjetil> josema: the govt should stop publishing websites and focus on publishing data

José Alonso: the govt should stop publishing websites and focus on publishing data

13:43:25 <kjetil> josema: to use by persons and organisations

José Alonso: to use by persons and organisations

13:43:28 <Zakim> -Beng

Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -Beng

13:44:08 <kjetil> josema: we will send the reference, when I have it handy

José Alonso: we will send the reference, when I have it handy

13:44:20 <kjetil> josema: if anybody has it handy, please send it to the group list?

José Alonso: if anybody has it handy, please send it to the group list?

13:44:46 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda?

13:44:48 <kjetil> josema: I will try to find it

José Alonso: I will try to find it

13:44:57 <Zakim> +Beng

Zakim IRC Bot: +Beng

13:45:52 <kjetil> josema: task force chairs: what do you expect from your task force?

José Alonso: task force chairs: what do you expect from your task force?

13:46:34 <kjetil> Zakim, who is talking?

Zakim, who is talking?

13:46:45 <Zakim> kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (4%), chris.a (76%)

Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (4%), chris.a (76%)

13:47:43 <kjetil> chris.a: I have heard from some individuals about interest in the TF

chris.a: I have heard from some individuals about interest in the TF

13:48:46 <kjetil> ... I will be updating the use case documents

... I will be updating the use case documents

13:50:01 <kjetil> josema: I have been reviewing guidelines from several countries

José Alonso: I have been reviewing guidelines from several countries

13:50:23 <kjetil> josema: some countries say "follow these specs, this performance level" and so on

José Alonso: some countries say "follow these specs, this performance level" and so on

13:50:28 <pasquale> sorry, I am not able to continue, hi all

Pasquale Popolizio: sorry, I am not able to continue, hi all

13:50:38 <kjetil> josema: several countries have been working on this

José Alonso: several countries have been working on this

13:51:06 <kjetil> josema: would it be interesting to compile "the best of the best"?

José Alonso: would it be interesting to compile "the best of the best"?

13:51:23 <kjetil> chris.a: Yeah, I think that would be very interesting

chris.a: Yeah, I think that would be very interesting

13:51:32 <josema> zakim, is rachel here?

José Alonso: zakim, is rachel here?

13:51:32 <Zakim> probably, josema; Rachel arrived 49 minutes ago

Zakim IRC Bot: probably, josema; Rachel arrived 49 minutes ago

13:52:17 <kjetil> josema: Rachel: if the group would produce that, would it be useful for you?

José Alonso: Rachel: if the group would produce that, would it be useful for you?

13:52:37 <kjetil> Rachel: the guiding principles are

Rachel Flagg: the guiding principles are

13:52:48 <kjetil> we have documented a lot of practices

we have documented a lot of practices

13:53:22 <kjetil> the more we can do the same way not only in the US, but all over the world, the better it is

the more we can do the same way not only in the US, but all over the world, the better it is

13:54:01 <kjetil> josema: I hope a lot of people will send you email about joining this TF effort

José Alonso: I hope a lot of people will send you email about joining this TF effort

13:54:08 <kjetil> Zakim, who is talking?

Zakim, who is talking?

13:54:12 <josema> september... I'm full of energy :)

José Alonso: september... I'm full of energy :)

13:54:19 <Zakim> kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (33%), Ari (100%)

Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (33%), Ari (100%)

13:54:57 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea

Zakim IRC Bot: -Katie_Haritos-Shea

13:55:24 <kjetil> ari: please put up the things that you read and find interesting to the wiki

Ari Schwartz: please put up the things that you read and find interesting to the wiki

13:55:39 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea

Zakim IRC Bot: +Katie_Haritos-Shea

13:55:43 <kjetil> josema: how do you envision the TF work?

José Alonso: how do you envision the TF work?

13:56:34 <kjetil> ari: the goal is to find out how open standards are used to gain transparancy, and where are the gaps

Ari Schwartz: the goal is to find out how open standards are used to gain transparancy, and where are the gaps

13:56:58 <kjetil> ari: the short term goals is to find out what's out there

Ari Schwartz: the short term goals is to find out what's out there

13:57:18 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda?

13:57:46 <kjetil> josema: any other commentS?

José Alonso: any other commentS?

13:58:23 <josema> zakim, close this agendum

José Alonso: zakim, close this agendum

13:58:23 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed

Zakim IRC Bot: agendum 5 closed

13:58:24 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

Zakim IRC Bot: I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is

13:58:27 <Zakim> 4. Face to Face Meeting [from josema]

Zakim IRC Bot: 4. Face to Face Meeting [from josema]

13:58:58 <kjetil> josema: let us talk about IG Notes

José Alonso: let us talk about IG Notes

13:59:11 <kjetil> josema: we are supposed to produce one for each TF

José Alonso: we are supposed to produce one for each TF

14:00:36 <kjetil> josema: we have two months to produce those

José Alonso: we have two months to produce those

14:01:30 <kjetil> josema: we are supposed to be doing that right now, and we have not really started

José Alonso: we are supposed to be doing that right now, and we have not really started

14:01:45 <kjetil> josema: I will try to push a little bit

José Alonso: I will try to push a little bit

14:02:45 <kjetil> josema: I will try to help with the W3C editing principles, which are not very hard, but they are there, and involve valid (X)HTML

José Alonso: I will try to help with the W3C editing principles, which are not very hard, but they are there, and involve valid (X)HTML

14:02:57 <kjetil> josema: we have very tight deadlines now

José Alonso: we have very tight deadlines now

14:03:16 <josema> move to next agendum

José Alonso: move to next agendum

14:03:16 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Face to Face Meeting" taken up [from josema]

4. Face to Face Meeting

14:03:37 <kjetil> josema: I sent an email about the F2F meeting

José Alonso: I sent an email about the F2F meeting

14:03:57 <kjetil> josema: the meeting is in a hotel near Cannes

José Alonso: the meeting is in a hotel near Cannes

14:04:32 <kjetil> josema: the discount rate expires on next monday

José Alonso: the discount rate expires on next monday

14:04:42 <Beng> jose's mail is : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2008Aug/0004.html

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Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown Beng: jose's mail is : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-egov-ig/2008Aug/0004.html

14:04:54 <kjetil> josema: there are other hotels of course

José Alonso: there are other hotels of course

14:05:11 <kjetil> josema: the deadline for the meeting is sept 28

José Alonso: the deadline for the meeting is sept 28

14:05:49 <kjetil> josema: this is the TPAC, the Technical Plenary, which is the main W3C technical meeting

José Alonso: this is the TPAC, the Technical Plenary, which is the main W3C technical meeting

14:06:07 <kjetil> josema: it is one of the best meetings in the year, highly recommended

José Alonso: it is one of the best meetings in the year, highly recommended

14:06:29 <kjetil> josema: if we need to interact with other groups, the best experts will be there

José Alonso: if we need to interact with other groups, the best experts will be there

14:07:00 <kjetil> josema: most meetings are open to observers, so you may join other meetings

José Alonso: most meetings are open to observers, so you may join other meetings

14:07:43 <kjetil> josema: this is very useful to learn technologies, and all the experts are there

José Alonso: this is very useful to learn technologies, and all the experts are there

14:08:57 <kjetil> Important dates: sept 8th and sept 28th

Important dates: sept 8th and sept 28th

14:09:04 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda?

14:09:06 <kjetil> josema: any questions?

José Alonso: any questions?

14:09:41 <kjetil> Zakim: unmute me

Zakim IRC Bot: unmute me

14:09:47 <kjetil> Zakim, unmute me

Zakim, unmute me

14:09:47 <Zakim> kjetil should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil should no longer be muted

14:10:03 <kjetil> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me

14:10:03 <Zakim> kjetil should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil should now be muted

14:10:04 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda?

14:10:22 <josema> move to next agendum

José Alonso: move to next agendum

14:10:22 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Group Activity Plan" taken up [from josema]

5. Group Activity Plan

14:11:32 <josema> close this agendum

José Alonso: close this agendum

14:11:36 <josema> move to next agendum

José Alonso: move to next agendum

14:11:36 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Liaisons: review" taken up [from josema]

6. Liaisons: review

14:12:04 <kjetil> josema: Kevin allready mentioned OASIS and the World Bank

José Alonso: Kevin allready mentioned OASIS and the World Bank

14:12:37 <kjetil> josema: we are in a state where we try to gain more knowledge about each other

José Alonso: we are in a state where we try to gain more knowledge about each other

14:12:50 <kjetil> josema: we will return to the group with reports

José Alonso: we will return to the group with reports

14:13:15 <josema> http://www.semic.eu

José Alonso: http://www.semic.eu

14:13:20 <kjetil> josema: we have had some interest from the Semantic Interoperability in Europe

José Alonso: we have had some interest from the Semantic Interoperability in Europe

14:13:45 <kjetil> josema: this is especially relevant to data integration

José Alonso: this is especially relevant to data integration

14:13:59 <kjetil> josema: we will meet with the project in Brussels

José Alonso: we will meet with the project in Brussels

14:14:09 <kjetil> josema: how do we see that vision

José Alonso: how do we see that vision

14:14:56 <kjetil> josema: they are planning to compile a repository of  "interoperability assets"

José Alonso: they are planning to compile a repository of "interoperability assets"

14:15:16 <kjetil> josema: I will find out more about this in two weeks from now in the meeting

José Alonso: I will find out more about this in two weeks from now in the meeting

14:15:31 <kjetil> Zakim, who is talking?

Zakim, who is talking?

14:15:42 <Zakim> kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (9%)

Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Josema (9%)

14:16:16 <kjetil> Trond: it is a very interesting project, with large challenges

Trond Undheim: it is a very interesting project, with large challenges

14:16:54 <josema> ->http://www.w3.org/2004/ontaria/ Ontaria

José Alonso: ->http://www.w3.org/2004/ontaria/ Ontaria

14:17:32 <kjetil> josema: Ontaria was a related W3C project

José Alonso: Ontaria was a related W3C project

14:18:19 <kjetil> josema: that project is stopped, probably due to lack of funding

José Alonso: that project is stopped, probably due to lack of funding

14:18:49 <kjetil> josema: I will try to find out more

José Alonso: I will try to find out more

14:19:26 <josema> agenda?

José Alonso: agenda?

14:19:31 <kjetil> q+

q+

14:19:34 <josema> close this agendum

José Alonso: close this agendum

14:19:42 <kjetil> ack me

ack me

14:21:12 <kjetil> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me

14:21:12 <Zakim> kjetil should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil should now be muted

14:21:20 <kjetil> Zakim, unmute me

Zakim, unmute me

14:21:20 <Zakim> kjetil should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil should no longer be muted

14:22:06 <Zakim> -Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema

14:22:11 <kjetil> kjetil: mentioned the liasons established by computas

Kjetil Kjernsmo: mentioned the liasons established by computas

14:22:13 <josema> I lost my phone connection :(

José Alonso: I lost my phone connection :(

14:22:30 <josema> zakim, call josema-office

José Alonso: zakim, call josema-office

14:22:31 <Zakim> ok, josema; the call is being made

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, josema; the call is being made

14:22:32 <Zakim> +Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: +Josema

14:22:41 <kjetil> Zakim, mute me

Zakim, mute me

14:22:41 <Zakim> kjetil should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: kjetil should now be muted

14:23:09 <kjetil> josema: any further questions?

José Alonso: any further questions?

14:23:34 <kjetil> josema: please take a look at the documents

José Alonso: please take a look at the documents

14:23:40 <kjetil> josema: we're ADJOURNED

José Alonso: we're ADJOURNED

14:23:47 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea

Zakim IRC Bot: -Katie_Haritos-Shea

14:23:48 <kjetil> josema: thank you all!

José Alonso: thank you all!

14:23:49 <Zakim> -Ari

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ari

14:23:50 <Zakim> -Owen

Zakim IRC Bot: -Owen

14:23:51 <Zakim> -??P9

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P9

14:23:52 <Zakim> -chris

Zakim IRC Bot: -chris

14:23:53 <Zakim> -chris.a

Scribe problem: the name 'chris.a' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -chris.a

14:23:55 <Zakim> -Rachel

Zakim IRC Bot: -Rachel

14:23:55 <Zakim> -kjetil

Zakim IRC Bot: -kjetil

14:24:00 <Zakim> -Beng

Scribe problem: the name 'Beng' does not match any of the 32 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Amit Parashar Ari Schwartz Benjamin Nguyen Christopher Testa Dalila Chiadmi John Sheridan José Alonso Juan Rodríguez Rodríguez Katie Haritos-Shea Kevin Novak Kjetil Kjernsmo Laila Benhlima Malcolm Crompton Mercedes Clark-Smith Oscar Azanon Esteire Owen Ambur Pasquale Popolizio Peter Krantz Pietro Russo Rachel Flagg Richard Murphy Rinke Hoekstra Roberto Castaldo Robin Berjon Rowan Smith Tim McMahon Tom van Engers Trond Undheim Vassilios Peristeras Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Zakim IRC Bot: -Beng

14:24:10 <josema> thanks all for particippating today

José Alonso: thanks all for particippating today

14:24:18 <josema> thanks kjetil for scribing!

José Alonso: thanks kjetil for scribing!

14:24:25 <Zakim> -Josema

Zakim IRC Bot: -Josema

14:24:27 <Zakim> T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_EGOV()9:00AM has ended

14:24:28 <Zakim> Attendees were Katie_Haritos-Shea, Josema, +1.301.455.aaaa, +39.25.aabb, +1.202.731.aacc, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.202.256.aaee, kevin, +1.301.384.aaff, Owen, kjetil, Beng,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Katie_Haritos-Shea, Josema, +1.301.455.aaaa, +39.25.aabb, +1.202.731.aacc, +1.509.464.aadd, +1.202.256.aaee, kevin, +1.301.384.aaff, Owen, kjetil, Beng,

14:24:30 <Zakim> ... +1.202.488.aagg, chris, Rachel, Ari

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.202.488.aagg, chris, Rachel, Ari

14:24:35 <josema> RRSAgent, draft minutes

José Alonso: RRSAgent, draft minutes

14:24:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/03-egov-minutes.html josema

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2008/09/03-egov-minutes.html josema

14:24:44 <josema> RRSAgent, list attendees

José Alonso: RRSAgent, list attendees

14:24:44 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'list attendees', josema.  Try /msg RRSAgent help

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. I don't understand 'list attendees', josema. Try /msg RRSAgent help

14:24:58 <josema> Zakim, list attendees

José Alonso: Zakim, list attendees

14:24:58 <Zakim> sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, josema, I don't know what conference this is

16:17:03 <josema> RRSAgent, bye

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José Alonso: RRSAgent, bye

16:17:03 <RRSAgent> I see no action items

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see no action items



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