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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 23 October 2015

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20151023
Seen
Annette Greiner, Bernadette Farias Loscio, Carlos Laufer, Caroline Burle, Deirdre Lee, Eric Kauz, Filip Radulovic, Hadley Beeman, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya, Newton Calegari, Peter Winstanley, Riccardo Albertoni
Chair
Deirdre Lee
Scribe
Filip Radulovic
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions

None.

Topics
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12:55:04 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP

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12:55:04 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

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12:55:05 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:55:05 <trackbot> Date: 23 October 2015
12:58:14 <deirdrelee> zakim, code?

Deirdre Lee: zakim, code?

12:58:14 <Zakim> I have been told this is DWBP, WebEx: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9 or +1-617-324-0000 (US Toll Number) Access code: 645 329 153, Password

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12:58:54 <deirdrelee> zakim, this will be dwbp

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12:58:54 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, deirdrelee

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12:59:13 <deirdrelee> chair: deirdrelee
12:59:16 <deirdrelee> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20151023
12:59:17 <PeterWinstanley> present+ PeterWinstanley

Peter Winstanley: present+ PeterWinstanley

12:59:25 <deirdrelee> present+ deirdrelee

Deirdre Lee: present+ deirdrelee

12:59:57 <fradulov> present+ fradulov

Filip Radulovic: present+ fradulov

13:00:34 <BernadetteLoscio> present+ BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: present+ BernadetteLoscio

13:00:41 <newtoncalegari> present+ newtoncalegari

Newton Calegari: present+ newtoncalegari

13:01:47 <riccardoAlbertoni> present+ riccardoAlbertoni

Riccardo Albertoni: present+ riccardoAlbertoni

13:02:26 <Caroline> Present+ Caroline

Caroline Burle: Present+ Caroline

13:02:50 <EricKauz> present+ EricKauz

Eric Kauz: present+ EricKauz

13:02:52 <deirdrelee> zakim, pick a victim

Deirdre Lee: zakim, pick a victim

13:02:52 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose fradulov

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose fradulov

13:02:53 <hadleybeeman> Present+ hadleybeeman

Hadley Beeman: Present+ hadleybeeman

13:03:37 <deirdrelee> scribe: fradulov

(Scribe set to Filip Radulovic)

13:04:09 <annette_g> present+ annette_g

Annette Greiner: present+ annette_g

13:04:15 <deirdrelee> PROPOSED: Approve last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-10-09

PROPOSED: Approve last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-10-09

13:04:37 <hadleybeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

13:04:41 <Caroline> +1

Caroline Burle: +1

13:04:43 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:04:46 <annette_g> oy, those look pretty terrible

Annette Greiner: oy, those look pretty terrible

13:04:51 <annette_g> -1

Annette Greiner: -1

13:05:00 <newtoncalegari> 0 (I wasn't present)

Newton Calegari: 0 (I wasn't present)

13:05:05 <BernadetteLoscio> 0

Bernadette Farias Loscio: 0

13:05:43 <BernadetteLoscio> i wasn't present

Bernadette Farias Loscio: i wasn't present

13:06:19 <deirdrelee> Action for philarcher to fix minutes Approve last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-10-09

Deirdre Lee: Action for philarcher to fix minutes Approve last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-10-09

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13:06:48 <deirdrelee> Action philarcher to fix minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-10-09

Deirdre Lee: Action philarcher to fix minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-10-09

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13:06:59 <nandana> present+ nandana

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: present+ nandana

13:07:12 <laufer> present+ laufer

Carlos Laufer: present+ laufer

13:07:14 <deirdrelee> Action phila to fix minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-10-09

Deirdre Lee: Action phila to fix minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-10-09

13:07:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-215 - Fix minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-10-09 [on Phil Archer - due 2015-10-30].

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13:08:23 <fradulov> approval of 2015-10-09 minutes left for the next week

approval of 2015-10-09 minutes left for the next week

13:10:07 <fradulov> Bernadette gives updates on the last week meeting about Data Usage

Bernadette gives updates on the last week meeting about Data Usage

13:10:36 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:11:22 <fradulov> The consumer should be able to say how the dataset should be used, as well as the publisher

The consumer should be able to say how the dataset should be used, as well as the publisher

13:12:09 <deirdrelee> BernadetteLoscio:

Bernadette Farias Loscio: [ Scribe Assist by Deirdre Lee ]

13:12:48 <fradulov> BernadetteLoscio:

Bernadette Farias Loscio:

13:13:04 <fradulov> discussed the use of the annotation model

discussed the use of the annotation model

13:13:10 <deirdrelee> BernadetteLoscio: we were discussing the annotation usage to describe provenance, instead of prov

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we were discussing the annotation usage to describe provenance, instead of prov [ Scribe Assist by Deirdre Lee ]

13:13:19 <PeterWinstanley> present+ PeterWinstanley

Peter Winstanley: present+ PeterWinstanley

13:13:45 <deirdrelee> topic: BP Document

1. BP Document

13:14:08 <fradulov> BernadetteLoscio: discussed the improvements on the best practices document, working on new editor draft

Bernadette Farias Loscio: discussed the improvements on the best practices document, working on new editor draft

13:14:08 <deirdrelee> BernadetteLoscio: discussed improvements that are necesary for next draft, there is a new editors' draft

Bernadette Farias Loscio: discussed improvements that are necesary for next draft, there is a new editors' draft [ Scribe Assist by Deirdre Lee ]

13:14:15 <deirdrelee> .. working on versioning section

Deirdre Lee: .. working on versioning section

13:14:37 <fradulov> ok

ok

13:14:40 <fradulov> sorry for that

sorry for that

13:15:41 <fradulov> made some improvements on the glosary, and removing some definitions

made some improvements on the glosary, and removing some definitions

13:15:48 <deirdrelee> BernadetteLoscio: removed the rfc keywords, and added to the glossary

Bernadette Farias Loscio: removed the rfc keywords, and added to the glossary [ Scribe Assist by Deirdre Lee ]

13:16:03 <deirdrelee> ... still a lot to do, especially for the examples

Deirdre Lee: ... still a lot to do, especially for the examples

13:16:15 <deirdrelee> .. next week we'll send more emails asking for specific help

Deirdre Lee: .. next week we'll send more emails asking for specific help

13:16:31 <deirdrelee> .. also looked at use-case requirements

Deirdre Lee: .. also looked at use-case requirements

13:17:02 <deirdrelee> topic: data quality vocabulary

2. data quality vocabulary

13:17:08 <riccardoAlbertoni> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html#express-the-quality-of-a-linkset

Riccardo Albertoni: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/vocab-dqg.html#express-the-quality-of-a-linkset

13:17:11 <fradulov> riccardoAlbertoni: working on the example about the quality of a linkset

Riccardo Albertoni: working on the example about the quality of a linkset

13:17:31 <fradulov> ... spent time on cleaning and correcting things

... spent time on cleaning and correcting things

13:20:04 <fradulov> BernadetteLoscio: the glossary included some definitions that lacked

Bernadette Farias Loscio: the glossary included some definitions that lacked

13:21:02 <deirdrelee> Glossary in doc: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#glossary

Deirdre Lee: Glossary in doc: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#glossary

13:21:15 <fradulov> BernadetteLoscio: thinks it would be nice if the group could take a look at the current definitions and see if they agree

Bernadette Farias Loscio: thinks it would be nice if the group could take a look at the current definitions and see if they agree

13:21:30 <fradulov> ... having the feedback about the definitions would be good

... having the feedback about the definitions would be good

13:22:37 <fradulov> ... BP state the changes of a dataset should be provided (versioning)

... BP state the changes of a dataset should be provided (versioning)

13:23:02 <deirdrelee> topic: Data versioning in BP document

3. Data versioning in BP document

13:23:09 <fradulov> ... found some terms that can be used to describe versioning

... found some terms that can be used to describe versioning

13:23:45 <fradulov> ... the vocabularies found don't show how to describe the updates

... the vocabularies found don't show how to describe the updates

13:24:02 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:24:05 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

13:24:16 <fradulov> ... suggests the usage of the annotation model to describe these updates

... suggests the usage of the annotation model to describe these updates

13:24:22 <deirdrelee> ack annette_g

Deirdre Lee: ack annette_g

13:24:51 <fradulov> annette_g: wondering whether the annotation model offers the vocabulary that addresses the issue

Annette Greiner: wondering whether the annotation model offers the vocabulary that addresses the issue

13:25:01 <fradulov> BernadetteLoscio: no, it does not

Bernadette Farias Loscio: no, it does not

13:26:47 <fradulov> annette_g: thinks that the descriptions can be described in plane language, without the need of the annotation model

Annette Greiner: thinks that the descriptions can be described in plane language, without the need of the annotation model

13:27:11 <fradulov> BernadetteLoscio: the question is how to describe the versioning in machine-readable way

Bernadette Farias Loscio: the question is how to describe the versioning in machine-readable way

13:27:36 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:27:39 <deirdrelee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+

13:27:52 <fradulov> ... but we should have the way to include it with a pane language

... but we should have the way to include it with a pane language

13:28:10 <fradulov> deirdrelee: it would be good to give an example

Deirdre Lee: it would be good to give an example

13:28:55 <annette_g> I think I would include it as metadata.

Annette Greiner: I think I would include it as metadata.

13:29:03 <fradulov> ... real-world examples of what is applied

... real-world examples of what is applied

13:29:09 <deirdrelee> ack me

Deirdre Lee: ack me

13:29:40 <fradulov> BernadetteLoscio: would like to have a complete description of a dataset at the end of the document

Bernadette Farias Loscio: would like to have a complete description of a dataset at the end of the document

13:30:26 <fradulov> ... but not saying which specific technology should be used

... but not saying which specific technology should be used

13:30:30 <fradulov> ... would be left to publishers

... would be left to publishers

13:30:54 <fradulov> deirdrelee: suggests to bring the discussion to the mailing list

Deirdre Lee: suggests to bring the discussion to the mailing list

13:31:33 <fradulov> BernadetteLoscio: will propose an example to have something concrete to discuss and will send a message to the group

Bernadette Farias Loscio: will propose an example to have something concrete to discuss and will send a message to the group

13:32:08 <fradulov> BernadetteLoscio: the other issue is Erik's message

Bernadette Farias Loscio: the other issue is Erik's message

13:32:14 <deirdrelee> topic: eric's proposal on feedback: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jul/0041.html

4. eric's proposal on feedback: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jul/0041.html

13:33:08 <fradulov> ... suggests maybe we can have some descriptions in the access section

... suggests maybe we can have some descriptions in the access section

13:33:13 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:33:55 <annette_g> we also have https://docs.google.com/a/lbl.gov/document/d/13q2CvZjMkjXrg7Pv7aTRuU5UL2J_-py09Vs_zJoaLso/edit?usp=sharing

Annette Greiner: we also have https://docs.google.com/a/lbl.gov/document/d/13q2CvZjMkjXrg7Pv7aTRuU5UL2J_-py09Vs_zJoaLso/edit?usp=sharing

13:34:07 <fradulov> ... made a proposal to work in the data access section

... made a proposal to work in the data access section

13:35:02 <deirdrelee> topic: data quality vocab

5. data quality vocab

13:35:18 <fradulov> riccardoAlbertoni: two new issues open

Riccardo Albertoni: two new issues open

13:35:29 <riccardoAlbertoni> issue- 204?

Riccardo Albertoni: issue- 204?

13:35:33 <deirdrelee> issue-201?

Deirdre Lee: ISSUE-201?

13:35:33 <trackbot> issue-201 -- Should we exploit predefined instances of oa:Motivation to further characterize the UserQualityFeedback purposes? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-201 -- Should we exploit predefined instances of oa:Motivation to further characterize the UserQualityFeedback purposes? -- open

13:35:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/201

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/201

13:35:33 <riccardoAlbertoni> issue-204?

Riccardo Albertoni: ISSUE-204?

13:35:34 <trackbot> issue-204 -- Introducing abstract classes and properties -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-204 -- Introducing abstract classes and properties -- raised

13:35:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/204

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/204

13:36:40 <fradulov> ... DQV is inspired by the Daq ontology

... DQV is inspired by the Daq ontology

13:37:00 <fradulov> ... daQ has defined abstract classes

... daQ has defined abstract classes

13:37:19 <fradulov> ... thinks the abstract mechanism is a bit complicated

... thinks the abstract mechanism is a bit complicated

13:37:35 <fradulov> ... the current DQV does not define dimensiones and categories as abstract classes

... the current DQV does not define dimensiones and categories as abstract classes

13:37:48 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:38:00 <fradulov> ... asks if anyone in the group is against the mentioned modelling choice

... asks if anyone in the group is against the mentioned modelling choice

13:38:06 <nandana> +q

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +q

13:38:13 <deirdrelee> ack nandana

Deirdre Lee: ack nandana

13:38:21 <fradulov> nandana: agrees with Ricardo

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: agrees with Ricardo

13:38:46 <fradulov> ... would like to hear Jeremy's opinion on the reason behind abstract classes

... would like to hear Jeremy's opinion on the reason behind abstract classes

13:39:14 <fradulov> riccardoAlbertoni: proposes to leave the issue open and to write to Jeremy to be sure that nothing is overlooked

Riccardo Albertoni: proposes to leave the issue open and to write to Jeremy to be sure that nothing is overlooked

13:39:50 <riccardoAlbertoni> can you hear  me ?

Riccardo Albertoni: can you hear me ?

13:40:24 <riccardoAlbertoni> let me try to reconennet

Riccardo Albertoni: let me try to reconennet

13:40:29 <annette_g> I cannot hear him; I can hear you

Annette Greiner: I cannot hear him; I can hear you

13:40:57 <riccardoAlbertoni> Ok yiyt is not working

Riccardo Albertoni: Ok yiyt is not working

13:41:13 <deirdrelee> issue-205?

Deirdre Lee: ISSUE-205?

13:41:13 <trackbot> issue-205 -- Representing dimensions and categories SKOS Concepts -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-205 -- Representing dimensions and categories SKOS Concepts -- open

13:41:13 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/205

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/205

13:41:47 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

13:42:31 <deirdrelee> ack annette_g

Deirdre Lee: ack annette_g

13:42:43 <riccardoAlbertoni> which is the number tjoin by phone

Riccardo Albertoni: which is the number tjoin by phone

13:42:44 <riccardoAlbertoni> P

Riccardo Albertoni: P

13:42:50 <riccardoAlbertoni> ?

Riccardo Albertoni: ?

13:43:06 <nandana> Zakim, code?

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: Zakim, code?

13:43:06 <Zakim> I have been told this is DWBP, WebEx: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9 or +1-617-324-0000 (US Toll Number) Access code: 645 329 153, Password

Zakim IRC Bot: I have been told this is DWBP, WebEx: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9 or +1-617-324-0000 (US Toll Number) Access code: 645 329 153, Password

13:43:09 <Zakim> ... dwbp. Host Key: 641444

Zakim IRC Bot: ... dwbp. Host Key: 641444

13:43:10 <deirdrelee> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page

Deirdre Lee: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page

13:43:51 <newtoncalegari> We do have the editor's draft link in the Wiki

Newton Calegari: We do have the editor's draft link in the Wiki

13:45:15 <fradulov> annette_g: suggests to improve the search results of the group on Google, the document that appears is not the latest version

Annette Greiner: suggests to improve the search results of the group on Google, the document that appears is not the latest version

13:47:59 <deirdrelee> automatically keep the date on the github docs updated http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

Deirdre Lee: automatically keep the date on the github docs updated http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

13:48:03 <annette_g> post-commit hook in git

Annette Greiner: post-commit hook in git

13:48:08 <newtoncalegari> "W3C Editor's Draft 18 May 2015"

Newton Calegari: "W3C Editor's Draft 18 May 2015"

13:49:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> issue-205?

Riccardo Albertoni: ISSUE-205?

13:49:21 <trackbot> issue-205 -- Representing dimensions and categories SKOS Concepts -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-205 -- Representing dimensions and categories SKOS Concepts -- open

13:49:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/205

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/205

13:49:43 <fradulov> riccardoAlbertoni: dimensions, metrics and categories are a hierarchy

Riccardo Albertoni: dimensions, metrics and categories are a hierarchy

13:50:04 <deirdrelee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+

13:50:14 <fradulov> ... asks about the introduction of skos:Concepts

... asks about the introduction of skos:Concepts

13:50:30 <deirdrelee> ack me

Deirdre Lee: ack me

13:50:43 <fradulov> deirdrelee: thinks that SKOS is a natural choice

Deirdre Lee: thinks that SKOS is a natural choice

13:51:55 <fradulov> riccardoAlbertoni: says that the solution could be to make dimension and category classes as subclasses of skos:Concept

Riccardo Albertoni: says that the solution could be to make dimension and category classes as subclasses of skos:Concept

13:52:02 <fradulov> deirdrelee: an example would be helpful

Deirdre Lee: an example would be helpful

13:52:26 <riccardoAlbertoni> issue-200?

Riccardo Albertoni: ISSUE-200?

13:52:26 <trackbot> issue-200 -- Can we align the quality dimension hints in DQV with the ones in ISO 25012? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-200 -- Can we align the quality dimension hints in DQV with the ones in ISO 25012? -- open

13:52:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/200

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/200

13:53:11 <fradulov> riccardoAlbertoni: aligning the dimensions in DQV to ISO25012 is a good idea

Riccardo Albertoni: aligning the dimensions in DQV to ISO25012 is a good idea

13:53:26 <fradulov> ... not expecting to provide normative hierarchy of dimensions

... not expecting to provide normative hierarchy of dimensions

13:53:42 <fradulov> ... but rather an example for users to then decide which solution to use

... but rather an example for users to then decide which solution to use

13:55:01 <deirdrelee> q?

Deirdre Lee: q?

13:55:42 <nandana> +q

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +q

13:55:44 <fradulov> ... proposes the two classifications (Zaveri and ISO) to be mentioned

... proposes the two classifications (Zaveri and ISO) to be mentioned

13:56:00 <fradulov> nandana: agrees with Ricardo

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: agrees with Ricardo

13:56:16 <annette_g> nice work, guys!

Annette Greiner: nice work, guys!

13:56:17 <nandana> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VMe--lhbiRGvQW1eWsYhUW2TeUBVxR3hzNskIPtSZoM/edit#gid=0

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VMe--lhbiRGvQW1eWsYhUW2TeUBVxR3hzNskIPtSZoM/edit#gid=0

13:56:39 <deirdrelee> ack me

Deirdre Lee: ack me

13:56:46 <deirdrelee> ack nandana

Deirdre Lee: ack nandana

13:56:49 <nandana> +q

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +q

13:56:52 <fradulov> deirdrelee: are there other communities to reach regarding quality dimension definitions?

Deirdre Lee: are there other communities to reach regarding quality dimension definitions?

13:56:52 <riccardoAlbertoni> q+

Riccardo Albertoni: q+

13:57:02 <deirdrelee> ack nandana

Deirdre Lee: ack nandana

13:57:37 <fradulov> nandana: all involved are from the Linked Data community, it would be good to include someone that is not from the same community

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: all involved are from the Linked Data community, it would be good to include someone that is not from the same community

13:58:48 <deirdrelee> ack riccardoAlbertoni

Deirdre Lee: ack riccardoAlbertoni

13:58:49 <fradulov> nandana: ISO is not about the LD, so it is a good comparison as well

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: ISO is not about the LD, so it is a good comparison as well

13:58:53 <hadleybeeman> zakim, close the queue

Hadley Beeman: zakim, close the queue

13:58:53 <Zakim> ok, hadleybeeman, the speaker queue is closed

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, hadleybeeman, the speaker queue is closed

13:59:18 <fradulov> riccardoAlbertoni: expecting new dimensions and measures to be defined over time

Riccardo Albertoni: expecting new dimensions and measures to be defined over time

13:59:31 <fradulov> ... suggests to avoid making normative classification of dimensions

... suggests to avoid making normative classification of dimensions

14:00:05 <fradulov> ... it's important to make anyone available to define dimensions and classifications

... it's important to make anyone available to define dimensions and classifications

14:00:34 <riccardoAlbertoni> thanks fradulov !!

Riccardo Albertoni: thanks fradulov !!

14:00:38 <nandana> +1 riccardoAlbertoni. I think the idea is to make it easy for some reader who doesn't want to make her own dimensions.

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +1 riccardoAlbertoni. I think the idea is to make it easy for some reader who doesn't want to make her own dimensions.

14:01:16 <Caroline> thank you, deirdrelee!

Caroline Burle: thank you, deirdrelee!

14:01:18 <Caroline> bye!

Caroline Burle: bye!

14:01:18 <newtoncalegari> bye!

Newton Calegari: bye!

14:01:20 <riccardoAlbertoni> bye !

Riccardo Albertoni: bye !

14:01:20 <laufer> bye all..

Carlos Laufer: bye all..

14:01:22 <nandana> bye :)

Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: bye :)

14:04:55 <newtoncalegari> RRSAgent, draft minutes

Newton Calegari: RRSAgent, draft minutes

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