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Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 09 October 2015

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20151009
Present
Peter Winstanley, Manuel Carrasco Benitez, Phil Archer, Riccardo Albertoni, Caroline Burle, Hadley Beeman, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya, Filip Radulovic, Antoine Isaac, Carlos Laufer
Chair
Hadley Beeman
Scribe
Unknown annette_g
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Minutes from http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-18 accepted link
  2. approve last week's minutes link
  3. accept minutes from F2F link
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12:54:20 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/10/09-dwbp-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/10/09-dwbp-irc

12:54:22 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 351

Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs 351

12:54:24 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP

Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be DWBP

12:54:24 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot

12:54:25 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:54:25 <trackbot> Date: 09 October 2015
12:54:36 <phila> zakim, code?

Phil Archer: zakim, code?

12:54:36 <Zakim> I have been told this is DWBP, WebEx: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9 or +1-617-324-0000 (US Toll Number) Access code: 645 329 153, Password

Zakim IRC Bot: I have been told this is DWBP, WebEx: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9 or +1-617-324-0000 (US Toll Number) Access code: 645 329 153, Password

12:54:39 <Zakim> ... dwbp. Host Key: 641444

Zakim IRC Bot: ... dwbp. Host Key: 641444

12:55:22 <PeterWinstanley> present+ PeterWinstanley

Peter Winstanley: present+ PeterWinstanley

13:00:26 <MTCarrasco> present+  MTCarrasco

(No events recorded for 5 minutes)

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: present+ MTCarrasco

13:00:31 <phila> present+ phila

Phil Archer: present+ phila

13:01:14 <phila> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20151009
13:01:21 <phila> chair: hadley
13:01:28 <hadleybeeman> Hello!

Hadley Beeman: Hello!

13:01:51 <hadleybeeman> Uh oh… the webex link is gone.

Hadley Beeman: Uh oh… the webex link is gone.

13:01:56 <phila> zakim, code?

Phil Archer: zakim, code?

13:01:56 <Zakim> I have been told this is DWBP, WebEx: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9 or +1-617-324-0000 (US Toll Number) Access code: 645 329 153, Password

Zakim IRC Bot: I have been told this is DWBP, WebEx: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9 or +1-617-324-0000 (US Toll Number) Access code: 645 329 153, Password

13:01:56 <Caroline_> hello!

Caroline Burle: hello!

13:01:59 <Zakim> ... dwbp. Host Key: 641444

Zakim IRC Bot: ... dwbp. Host Key: 641444

13:02:17 <riccardoAlbertoni> present+ riccardoAlbertoni

Riccardo Albertoni: present+ riccardoAlbertoni

13:02:27 <Caroline_> Present+ Caroline_

Caroline Burle: Present+ Caroline_

13:02:38 <phila> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

13:02:38 <Zakim> Present: PeterWinstanley, MTCarrasco, phila, riccardoAlbertoni, Caroline_
13:02:40 <Zakim> On IRC I see PeterWinstanley__, annette_g, riccardoAlbertoni, MTCarrasco, Caroline_, Zakim, RRSAgent, fradulov, nandana, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see PeterWinstanley__, annette_g, riccardoAlbertoni, MTCarrasco, Caroline_, Zakim, RRSAgent, fradulov, nandana, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

13:02:46 <riccardoAlbertoni> hi everyone

Riccardo Albertoni: hi everyone

13:03:19 <phila> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

13:03:19 <Zakim> Present: PeterWinstanley, MTCarrasco, phila, riccardoAlbertoni, Caroline_
13:03:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see PeterWinstanley__, annette_g, riccardoAlbertoni, MTCarrasco, Caroline_, Zakim, RRSAgent, fradulov, nandana, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see PeterWinstanley__, annette_g, riccardoAlbertoni, MTCarrasco, Caroline_, Zakim, RRSAgent, fradulov, nandana, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, trackbot

13:03:23 <hadleybeeman> present+ hadleybeeman

Scribe problem: the name 'hadleybeeman' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'hadleybeeman' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown hadleybeeman: present+ hadleybeeman

13:03:46 <nandana> present+ nandana

Scribe problem: the name 'nandana' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'nandana' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown nandana: present+ nandana

13:04:00 <fradulov> present+ fradulov

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Scribe problem: the name 'fradulov' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown fradulov: present+ fradulov

13:04:23 <annette_g> I'm not in to the webex yet. It's asking for a meeting, event, or session number?

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Scribe problem: the name 'annette_g' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown annette_g: I'm not in to the webex yet. It's asking for a meeting, event, or session number?

13:04:31 <PeterWinstanley__> present+ PeterWinstanley

Peter Winstanley: present+ PeterWinstanley

13:04:55 <hadleybeeman> annette_g: paste in the webex link

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Scribe problem: the name 'annette_g' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown annette_g: paste in the webex link [ Scribe Assist by Unknown hadleybeeman ]

13:05:04 <hadleybeeman> https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9

Scribe problem: the name 'hadleybeeman' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'hadleybeeman' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown hadleybeeman: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9

13:05:07 <annette_g> I did, same as ever

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Scribe problem: the name 'annette_g' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown annette_g: I did, same as ever

13:05:14 <hadleybeeman> how strange

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Scribe problem: the name 'hadleybeeman' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown hadleybeeman: how strange

13:05:24 <phila> zakim, code?

Phil Archer: zakim, code?

13:05:24 <Zakim> I have been told this is DWBP, WebEx: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9 or +1-617-324-0000 (US Toll Number) Access code: 645 329 153, Password

Zakim IRC Bot: I have been told this is DWBP, WebEx: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m2c0af451188e3c2177f8d56453c588e9 or +1-617-324-0000 (US Toll Number) Access code: 645 329 153, Password

13:05:26 <annette_g> Ah, yours works better

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Scribe problem: the name 'annette_g' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown annette_g: Ah, yours works better

13:05:28 <Zakim> ... dwbp. Host Key: 641444

Zakim IRC Bot: ... dwbp. Host Key: 641444

13:06:46 <annette_g> present + annette_g

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Scribe problem: the name 'annette_g' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown annette_g: present + annette_g

13:06:58 <annette_g> I can scribe

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Scribe problem: the name 'annette_g' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown annette_g: I can scribe

13:07:03 <hadleybeeman> scribe: annette_g

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(Scribe set to Unknown annette_g)

13:07:17 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-18

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Scribe problem: the name 'hadleybeeman' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown hadleybeeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-18

13:07:20 <antoine> present+ antoine

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Scribe problem: the name 'antoine' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown antoine: present+ antoine

13:07:27 <annette_g> PROPOSED: accept last week's minutes

PROPOSED: accept last week's minutes

13:07:31 <hadleybeeman> +0 (wasn't here)

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Scribe problem: the name 'hadleybeeman' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown hadleybeeman: +0 (wasn't here)

13:07:37 <Caroline_> +1

Caroline Burle: +1

13:07:39 <MTCarrasco> +1

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: +1

13:07:43 <annette_g> +1

Scribe problem: the name 'annette_g' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'annette_g' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

+1

13:07:44 <nandana> +1

Scribe problem: the name 'nandana' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'nandana' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown nandana: +1

13:07:48 <antoine> +1

Scribe problem: the name 'antoine' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'antoine' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown antoine: +1

13:07:48 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:07:48 <phila> +1

Phil Archer: +1

13:08:19 <fradulov> +1

Scribe problem: the name 'fradulov' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'fradulov' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown fradulov: +1

13:08:28 <phila> RESOLVED: Minutes from http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-18 accepted

RESOLVED: Minutes from http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-18 accepted

13:08:28 <annette_g> RESOLVED: approve last week's minutes

RESOLVED: approve last week's minutes

13:08:35 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-24

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Scribe problem: the name 'hadleybeeman' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown hadleybeeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-24

13:08:40 <laufer> present+ laufer

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Scribe problem: the name 'laufer' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown laufer: present+ laufer

13:08:58 <phila> That's harder - we talked for a long time!

Phil Archer: That's harder - we talked for a long time!

13:09:01 <annette_g> PROPOSED: accept minutes from F2F

PROPOSED: accept minutes from F2F

13:09:06 <laufer> +1 (delayed)

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Scribe problem: the name 'laufer' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown laufer: +1 (delayed)

13:09:12 <antoine> +1 I've just re-read them entirely, they're good :-)

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Scribe problem: the name 'antoine' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown antoine: +1 I've just re-read them entirely, they're good :-)

13:09:13 <MTCarrasco> 0

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: 0

13:09:14 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-25

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Scribe problem: the name 'hadleybeeman' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown hadleybeeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-09-25

13:09:17 <Caroline_> +1

Caroline Burle: +1

13:09:18 <PeterWinstanley__> +1

Peter Winstanley: +1

13:09:25 <riccardoAlbertoni> +1

Riccardo Albertoni: +1

13:09:26 <hadleybeeman> +0 (wasn't there :( )

Scribe problem: the name 'hadleybeeman' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Scribe problem: the name 'hadleybeeman' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown hadleybeeman: +0 (wasn't there :( )

13:09:26 <nandana> +1

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Scribe problem: the name 'nandana' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown nandana: +1

13:09:34 <fradulov> +0

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Scribe problem: the name 'fradulov' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown fradulov: +0

13:09:48 <annette_g> +1

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Scribe problem: the name 'annette_g' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

+1

13:09:50 <laufer> +1

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Scribe problem: the name 'laufer' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown laufer: +1

13:10:01 <antoine> +1

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Scribe problem: the name 'antoine' does not match any of the 8 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Peter Winstanley Manuel Carrasco Benitez Phil Archer Riccardo Albertoni Caroline Burle Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot

Unknown antoine: +1

13:10:03 <phila> +1 But I can see I need to clean those minutes up

Phil Archer: +1 But I can see I need to clean those minutes up

13:10:08 <annette_g> RESOLVED: accept minutes from F2F

RESOLVED: accept minutes from F2F

13:10:33 <adler1> gm

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Unknown adler1: gm

13:11:10 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  goes over the agenda

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Unknown hadleybeeman: goes over the agenda

13:11:19 <ericstephan> ericstephan present+

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Unknown ericstephan: ericstephan present+

13:11:28 <phila> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

13:11:28 <Zakim> Present: PeterWinstanley, MTCarrasco, phila, riccardoAlbertoni, Caroline_, hadleybeeman, nandana, fradulov, antoine, laufer
13:11:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see adler1, ericstephan, antoine, laufer, PeterWinstanley__, annette_g, riccardoAlbertoni, MTCarrasco, Caroline_, Zakim, RRSAgent, fradulov, nandana, phila, hadleybeeman,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see adler1, ericstephan, antoine, laufer, PeterWinstanley__, annette_g, riccardoAlbertoni, MTCarrasco, Caroline_, Zakim, RRSAgent, fradulov, nandana, phila, hadleybeeman,

13:11:30 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... rhiaro, trackbot

13:11:48 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  can you review where we are on the DUV, ericstephan?

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Hadley Beeman: can you review where we are on the DUV, ericstephan?

13:12:04 <annette_g> ericstephan:  we met to review and see if we can get a request for comments

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Unknown ericstephan: we met to review and see if we can get a request for comments

13:12:38 <phila> present+ Steve, Eric S, Annette, Riccardo

Phil Archer: present+ Steve, Eric S, Annette, Riccardo

13:12:40 <annette_g> we are developing ideas around DUV feedback and citation, trying to make them more clearly spelled out

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we are developing ideas around DUV feedback and citation, trying to make them more clearly spelled out

13:13:13 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  any questions?

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Hadley Beeman: any questions?

13:13:27 <annette_g> silence ensues

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silence ensues

13:13:51 <annette_g> Caroline_:  Newton and Bernadette send regrets

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Caroline Burle: Newton and Bernadette send regrets

13:13:56 <Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/F2F_S%C3%A3o_Paulo_-_Agenda_Proposal_DWBP

Caroline Burle: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/F2F_S%C3%A3o_Paulo_-_Agenda_Proposal_DWBP

13:14:10 <annette_g> It would be nice to close some of the last issues from the F2F

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It would be nice to close some of the last issues from the F2F

13:14:17 <Caroline_> Other Open Issues - To be discussed/closed before the F2F or if we have time during the F2F

Caroline Burle: Other Open Issues - To be discussed/closed before the F2F or if we have time during the F2F

13:14:23 <annette_g> the only ones we couldnt are the ones at the end of the list

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the only ones we couldnt are the ones at the end of the list

13:14:43 <phila> The meeting has moved on but I wanted to note the work at http://www.sparontologies.net/ which shows more organisational support for CITO etc.

Phil Archer: The meeting has moved on but I wanted to note the work at http://www.sparontologies.net/ which shows more organisational support for CITO etc.

13:14:53 <phila> issue-93?

Phil Archer: ISSUE-93?

13:14:53 <trackbot> issue-93 -- Free Open Data SLAs for Open Data publishing -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-93 -- Free Open Data SLAs for Open Data publishing -- open

13:14:53 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/93

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/93

13:14:54 <Caroline_> ISSUE-93: Free Open Data SLAs for Open Data publishing

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Unknown ISSUE-93: Free Open Data SLAs for Open Data publishing [ Scribe Assist by Caroline Burle ]

13:14:54 <trackbot> Notes added to ISSUE-93 Free Open Data SLAs for Open Data publishing.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Notes added to ISSUE-93 Free Open Data SLAs for Open Data publishing.

13:15:02 <annette_g> Caroline_:  let's see if we can close this issue.

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Caroline Burle: let's see if we can close this issue.

13:15:09 <ericstephan> thank you I look forward to seeing this @phila!

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Unknown ericstephan: thank you I look forward to seeing this @phila!

13:16:06 <adler1> q+

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Unknown adler1: q+

13:16:59 <annette_g> phila: in Sao Paolo, there was a lot of discussion around what an SLA is. It's a kind of pledge. It fits into all sorts of places. I think it's useful to have, but I have to do more thinking. We have to support making comments on the publisher rather than the data itself

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Phil Archer: in Sao Paolo, there was a lot of discussion around what an SLA is. It's a kind of pledge. It fits into all sorts of places. I think it's useful to have, but I have to do more thinking. We have to support making comments on the publisher rather than the data itself

13:17:03 <phila> ack adler1

Phil Archer: ack adler1

13:17:14 <hadleybeeman> Q?

Hadley Beeman: Q?

13:17:17 <phila> ack a

Phil Archer: ack a

13:17:41 <annette_g> adler1: at IBM we talk about a content level agreement, which is a little different from an SLA.

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Unknown adler1: at IBM we talk about a content level agreement, which is a little different from an SLA.

13:18:07 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  where does that leave you, Caroline?

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Hadley Beeman: where does that leave you, Caroline?

13:18:22 <annette_g> Caroline_:  not sure if we can close the issue. Phil?

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Caroline Burle: not sure if we can close the issue. Phil?

13:18:56 <annette_g> phila:  ODS certificates certify that the data was produced according to a pipeline, no comment on the quality itself. "Data produced in accordance with..."

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Phil Archer: ODI certificates certify that the data was produced according to a pipeline, no comment on the quality itself. "Data produced in accordance with..."

13:19:24 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

13:19:35 <annette_g> phila:  it's up to the DQV folks to decide to include it if it makes sense to them. In the BP doc, we can say it's useful to say that it's useful

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Phil Archer: it's up to the DQV folks to decide to include it if it makes sense to them. In the BP doc, we can say it's useful to say that it's useful

13:19:41 <adler1> agree

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Unknown adler1: agree

13:19:41 <phila> s/ODS/ODI/
13:19:51 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  does that close the issue?

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Hadley Beeman: does that close the issue?

13:20:29 <hadleybeeman> ack lau

Hadley Beeman: ack lau

13:20:31 <annette_g> Caroline_:  I think Antoine and Riccardo should weigh in

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Caroline Burle: I think Antoine and Riccardo should weigh in

13:21:48 <annette_g> laufer:  we have assertions about the quality of a thing, we have a vocab for that. We have intentions of things to be done about the process, and then we have an SLA, a commitment to do a thing in a certain way. These are two different things.

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Carlos Laufer: we have assertions about the quality of a thing, we have a vocab for that. We have intentions of things to be done about the process, and then we have an SLA, a commitment to do a thing in a certain way. These are two different things.

13:22:06 <riccardoAlbertoni> q+

Riccardo Albertoni: q+

13:22:07 <ericstephan> Here is an interesting vocab efforts that includes a vocabulary for SLA http://linked-usdl.org/  http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/usdl/

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Unknown ericstephan: Here is an interesting vocab efforts that includes a vocabulary for SLA http://linked-usdl.org/ http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/usdl/

13:22:17 <hadleybeeman> ack riccardo

Hadley Beeman: ack riccardo

13:22:53 <annette_g> riccardoAlbertoni:  we have an action on DQV to figure out in which terms we will address this in the vocab.

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Riccardo Albertoni: we have an action on DQV to figure out in which terms we will address this in the vocab.

13:22:56 <Caroline_> q+

Caroline Burle: q+

13:23:11 <hadleybeeman> ack caro

Hadley Beeman: ack caro

13:23:28 <annette_g> Caroline_:  maybe it can wait to see what riccardoAlbertoni and antoine decide.

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Caroline Burle: maybe it can wait to see what riccardoAlbertoni and antoine decide.

13:23:39 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  anyone against?

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Hadley Beeman: anyone against?

13:23:43 <annette_g> silence ensues

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silence ensues

13:23:51 <phila> action-203?

Phil Archer: ACTION-203?

13:23:51 <trackbot> action-203 -- Riccardo Albertoni to Add an example with an sla as quality policy, trying to use the same dimensions as metrics and annotations -- due 2015-10-01 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-203 -- Riccardo Albertoni to Add an example with an sla as quality policy, trying to use the same dimensions as metrics and annotations -- due 2015-10-01 -- OPEN

13:23:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/203

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/203

13:24:07 <antoine> there's also https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/199

Antoine Isaac: there's also https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/199

13:24:14 <annette_g> phila:  we have action 203 that can be closed and defer to the DQV action.

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Phil Archer: we have ACTION-203 that can be closed and defer to the DQV action.

13:24:47 <annette_g> Caroline_:  I think we can close the issue and create an action to decide how to implement in the BP doc.

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Caroline Burle: I think we can close the issue and create an action to decide how to implement in the BP doc.

13:25:20 <annette_g> ACTION: Caroline_ to check what DQV has done about SLAs.

ACTION: Caroline_ to check what DQV has done about SLAs.

13:25:20 <trackbot> Error finding 'Caroline_'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Error finding 'Caroline_'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/users>.

13:25:27 <phila> action: burle to check what DQV folks have done about issue-93

ACTION: burle to check what DQV folks have done about ISSUE-93

13:25:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-211 - Check what dqv folks have done about issue-93 [on Caroline Burle - due 2015-10-16].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-211 - Check what dqv folks have done about ISSUE-93 [on Caroline Burle - due 2015-10-16].

13:26:11 <phila> close issue-93

Phil Archer: close ISSUE-93

13:26:11 <trackbot> Closed issue-93.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-93.

13:26:16 <PeterWinstanley__> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2729758/  the 'Terminology Review Criteria' might be helpful in the discussion

Peter Winstanley: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2729758/ the 'Terminology Review Criteria' might be helpful in the discussion

13:26:32 <hadleybeeman> issue-94?

Hadley Beeman: ISSUE-94?

13:26:32 <trackbot> issue-94 -- Dataset versioning and dataset replication -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-94 -- Dataset versioning and dataset replication -- open

13:26:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/94

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/94

13:26:40 <annette_g> Caroline_:  next issue, data set versioning. can it be closed?

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Caroline Burle: next issue, data set versioning. can it be closed?

13:26:41 <Caroline_> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/94

Caroline Burle: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/94

13:27:45 <annette_g> phila:  this is pretty old, trying to recall the meaning of it

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Phil Archer: this is pretty old, trying to recall the meaning of it

13:28:31 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  quotes a note pointing out that it might be good to avoid tying ourselves to specific tools

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Hadley Beeman: quotes a note pointing out that it might be good to avoid tying ourselves to specific tools

13:28:38 <phila> q+ to talk about http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/bp/ec/

Phil Archer: q+ to talk about http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/bp/ec/

13:28:48 <hadleybeeman> I was looking at this: http://www.w3.org/mid/8CE0D584-8E19-4881-9C87-D0BB98F48A55%2540lbl.gov

Hadley Beeman: I was looking at this: http://www.w3.org/mid/8CE0D584-8E19-4881-9C87-D0BB98F48A55%2540lbl.gov

13:28:56 <phila> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

13:28:56 <Zakim> phila, you wanted to talk about http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/bp/ec/

Zakim IRC Bot: phila, you wanted to talk about http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/bp/ec/

13:29:35 <phila> -> http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/bp/ec/ Crowdsourcing BP

Phil Archer: -> http://www.w3.org/2013/share-psi/bp/ec/ Crowdsourcing BP

13:29:53 <annette_g> phila:  one issue in SharePSI is around crowdsourcing, saying it's a really good idea. It talks about using GitHub.

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Phil Archer: one issue in SharePSI is around crowdsourcing, saying it's a really good idea. It talks about using GitHub.

13:30:30 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

13:30:35 <annette_g> phila:  if this group is not happy about making a rec about policy stuff, we can at least know that SharePSI is covering it.

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Phil Archer: if this group is not happy about making a rec about policy stuff, we can at least know that SharePSI is covering it.

13:31:06 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  to me crowdsourcing is more about collection of data than publishing it. Glad that SharePSI is doing that.

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Hadley Beeman: to me crowdsourcing is more about collection of data than publishing it. Glad that SharePSI is doing that.

13:31:17 <annette_g> Caroline_:  still not sure if we can close this

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Caroline Burle: still not sure if we can close this

13:31:51 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: we can add a note to the issue

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Hadley Beeman: we can add a note to the issue

13:32:53 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  adds a note

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Hadley Beeman: adds a note

13:33:24 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  now what do we do with the issue? somebody needs to get back to Peter Hanacek.

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Hadley Beeman: now what do we do with the issue? somebody needs to get back to Peter Hanacek.

13:33:46 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  we have to be able to show that we've resolved all the issues.

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Hadley Beeman: we have to be able to show that we've resolved all the issues.

13:34:21 <annette_g> phila:  notes a way to contact Peter via a common project with Deirdre.

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Phil Archer: notes a way to contact Peter via a common project with Deirdre.

13:34:38 <phila> action: Deirdre to follow up on issue-94 with COMSODE project

ACTION: Deirdre to follow up on ISSUE-94 with COMSODE project

13:34:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-212 - Follow up on issue-94 with comsode project [on Deirdre Lee - due 2015-10-16].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-212 - Follow up on ISSUE-94 with comsode project [on Deirdre Lee - due 2015-10-16].

13:34:59 <annette_g> * phila, you rock on Zakim

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* phila, you rock on Zakim

13:35:11 <annette_g> Caroline_:  we can close this one

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Caroline Burle: we can close this one

13:35:18 <hadleybeeman> issue-148?

Hadley Beeman: ISSUE-148?

13:35:18 <trackbot> issue-148 -- Can we use the five star rating system as a BP document metric to describe Open Data instead of a path to LD? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-148 -- Can we use the five star rating system as a BP document metric to describe Open Data instead of a path to LD? -- open

13:35:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/148

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/148

13:36:51 <annette_g> ericstephan:  we were grappling with whether there is a way we can characterize open data. Let me dig through earlier meeting notes and look at it again next week.

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Unknown ericstephan: we were grappling with whether there is a way we can characterize open data. Let me dig through earlier meeting notes and look at it again next week.

13:37:15 <annette_g> Caroline_:  can we close it and reopen by email if needed?

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Caroline Burle: can we close it and reopen by email if needed?

13:37:18 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

13:37:32 <phila> Dee https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Mar/0102.html

Phil Archer: Dee https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Mar/0102.html

13:37:55 <annette_g> so what's the action??

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so what's the action??

13:38:36 <phila> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentifiers

Phil Archer: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentifiers

13:39:33 <annette_g> phila:  a big hole has been pointed out in the BP doc. in the section on identifiers, we say use persistent IDs and another one says you should assign URIs to datasets. We need something that says you should make use of URIs as identifiers *within* datasets

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Phil Archer: a big hole has been pointed out in the BP doc. in the section on identifiers, we say use persistent IDs and another one says you should assign URIs to datasets. We need something that says you should make use of URIs as identifiers *within* datasets

13:39:55 <annette_g> phila:  I'm hoping that will help address Eric Wilde's issue.

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Phil Archer: I'm hoping that will help address Eric Wilde's issue.

13:40:15 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  that can help us get away from the contentious discussion about linked data.

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Hadley Beeman: that can help us get away from the contentious discussion about linked data.

13:41:10 <annette_g> ACTION: ericstephan to look into issue 148 and restart the conversion or close the issue

ACTION: ericstephan to look into ISSUE-148 and restart the conversion or close the issue

13:41:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-213 - Look into issue 148 and restart the conversion or close the issue [on Eric Stephan - due 2015-10-16].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-213 - Look into ISSUE-148 and restart the conversion or close the issue [on Eric Stephan - due 2015-10-16].

13:41:21 <ericstephan> Yes I'll send out an email

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Unknown ericstephan: Yes I'll send out an email

13:41:34 <Caroline_> thank you, ericstephan!

Caroline Burle: thank you, ericstephan!

13:41:47 <annette_g> Caroline_:  issue-149

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Caroline Burle: ISSUE-149

13:41:54 <phila> issue-149?

Phil Archer: ISSUE-149?

13:41:54 <trackbot> issue-149 -- How to handle metadata that is embedded in the document? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-149 -- How to handle metadata that is embedded in the document? -- open

13:41:54 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/149

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/149

13:42:11 <phila> issue-150?

Phil Archer: ISSUE-150?

13:42:11 <trackbot> issue-150 -- Decide how examples are included in bp doc -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-150 -- Decide how examples are included in bp doc -- open

13:42:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/150

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/150

13:42:28 <annette_g> Caroline_:  the editors are open to discussion on this one.

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Caroline Burle: the editors are open to discussion on this one.

13:42:46 <annette_g> we'd like to get some ideas

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we'd like to get some ideas

13:42:55 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  what specific questions are you asking?

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Hadley Beeman: what specific questions are you asking?

13:43:27 <ericstephan> q+

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Unknown ericstephan: q+

13:43:28 <annette_g> Caroline_:  input about how the examples should be included in the BP doc. right now they're in a very simple form.

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Caroline Burle: input about how the examples should be included in the BP doc. right now they're in a very simple form.

13:43:39 <annette_g> … also, if you have examples to contribute, that would help.

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… also, if you have examples to contribute, that would help.

13:43:39 <hadleybeeman> ack phil

Hadley Beeman: ack phil

13:43:55 <annette_g> phila:  I don't think an example can be too simple

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Phil Archer: I don't think an example can be too simple

13:44:13 <hadleybeeman> q+ to talk about how people use examples in specs

Hadley Beeman: q+ to talk about how people use examples in specs

13:44:25 <annette_g> phila:  it shouldn't be too hard to talk about metadata that's embedded. It doesn't seem like a big issue.

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Phil Archer: it shouldn't be too hard to talk about metadata that's embedded. It doesn't seem like a big issue.

13:44:43 <hadleybeeman> ack eric

Hadley Beeman: ack eric

13:44:45 <annette_g> phila:  you can have more than one example for an issue that's complex

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Phil Archer: you can have more than one example for an issue that's complex

13:45:14 <annette_g> ericstephan: was thinking about going back to the use case doc to glean examples

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Unknown ericstephan: was thinking about going back to the use case doc to glean examples

13:45:26 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

13:45:52 <phila> ack h

Phil Archer: ack h

13:45:52 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, you wanted to talk about how people use examples in specs

Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, you wanted to talk about how people use examples in specs

13:46:03 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  makes sense to me. Phil taught me that most people when they look at a spec, they look at examples and pictures rather than reading the words.

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Hadley Beeman: makes sense to me. Phil taught me that most people when they look at a spec, they look at examples and pictures rather than reading the words.

13:46:14 <ericstephan> key point here about examples

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Unknown ericstephan: key point here about examples

13:46:28 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  they help people learn what they need. Keeping them simple is great.

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Hadley Beeman: they help people learn what they need. Keeping them simple is great.

13:46:44 <annette_g> Caroline_:  I agree 100%.

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Caroline Burle: I agree 100%.

13:46:49 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

13:47:10 <annette_g> Caroline_:  would anyone like to help us make examples, try to write about it as well?

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Caroline Burle: would anyone like to help us make examples, try to write about it as well?

13:47:12 <ericstephan> I can help write some that relate to the data usage vocab

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Unknown ericstephan: I can help write some that relate to the data usage vocab

13:47:17 <phila> The mind is willing but not this side of TPAC

Phil Archer: The mind is willing but not this side of TPAC

13:47:20 <ericstephan> q+

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Unknown ericstephan: q+

13:47:30 <hadleybeeman> ack eric

Hadley Beeman: ack eric

13:48:06 <annette_g> ericstephan:  in developing the DUV, that might help us tie things back to the BP doc.

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Unknown ericstephan: in developing the DUV, that might help us tie things back to the BP doc.

13:48:20 <annette_g> Caroline_:  we can close the issue.

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Caroline Burle: we can close the issue.

13:48:25 <ericstephan> maybe make an assignment table?

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Unknown ericstephan: maybe make an assignment table?

13:48:45 <annette_g> Caroline_:  not sure if we should make an action

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Caroline Burle: not sure if we should make an action

13:49:06 <annette_g> ericstephan:  we could make a table for people to fill in examples

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Unknown ericstephan: we could make a table for people to fill in examples

13:49:25 <newtoncalegari> action to create the assignment table to fill examples

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Unknown newtoncalegari: action to create the assignment table to fill examples

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13:50:00 <annette_g> ericstephan:  I'd be happy to help

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Unknown ericstephan: I'd be happy to help

13:50:46 <newtoncalegari> action newtoncalegari to create the assignment table for relate people to work on examples

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Unknown newtoncalegari: action newtoncalegari to create the assignment table for relate people to work on examples

13:50:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-214 - Create the assignment table for relate people to work on examples [on Newton Calegari - due 2015-10-16].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-214 - Create the assignment table for relate people to work on examples [on Newton Calegari - due 2015-10-16].

13:51:15 <hadleybeeman> close issue-150?

Hadley Beeman: close ISSUE-150?

13:51:15 <trackbot> Closed issue-150.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-150.

13:51:40 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

13:51:50 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  we are running short on time. do we want to spend time on open issues or talk about DQV?

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Hadley Beeman: we are running short on time. do we want to spend time on open issues or talk about DQV?

13:51:54 <hadleybeeman> ack antoine

Hadley Beeman: ack antoine

13:52:22 <annette_g> antoine:  I'd like to do some basic discussion about DQV instead of open issues

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Antoine Isaac: I'd like to do some basic discussion about DQV instead of open issues

13:52:48 <adler1> gotta drop

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Unknown adler1: gotta drop

13:53:04 <hadleybeeman> topic: Data Quality Vocab

1. Data Quality Vocab

13:53:16 <annette_g> antoine:  there are some issues from the F2F that maybe we can close.

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Antoine Isaac: there are some issues from the F2F that maybe we can close.

13:53:26 <hadleybeeman> issue-185?

Hadley Beeman: ISSUE-185?

13:53:26 <trackbot> issue-185 -- dqv:QualityAnnotation modeling issues -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-185 -- dqv:QualityAnnotation modeling issues -- open

13:53:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/185

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/185

13:54:16 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  did the issue come from you?

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Hadley Beeman: did the issue come from you?

13:54:19 <phila> That issue has a recorded resolution - that means it should probably be closed

Phil Archer: That issue has a recorded resolution - that means it should probably be closed

13:54:30 <annette_g> antoine: yes, driven by a specific modeling question

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Antoine Isaac: yes, driven by a specific modeling question

13:54:40 <hadleybeeman> close issue-185

Hadley Beeman: close ISSUE-185

13:54:40 <trackbot> Closed issue-185.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-185.

13:54:54 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: we have a recorded resolution on this

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Hadley Beeman: we have a recorded resolution on this

13:54:56 <hadleybeeman> issue-184?

Hadley Beeman: ISSUE-184?

13:54:56 <trackbot> issue-184 -- Is an dqv:ServiceLevelAgreement a kind of certificate, or a standard? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-184 -- Is an dqv:ServiceLevelAgreement a kind of certificate, or a standard? -- open

13:54:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/184

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/184

13:55:13 <annette_g> antoine: we have two resolutions for this one, and we opened a new issue

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Antoine Isaac: we have two resolutions for this one, and we opened a new issue

13:55:29 <phila> issue-199

Phil Archer: ISSUE-199

13:55:29 <trackbot> issue-199 -- Is dqv:QualityPolicy a subclass of dcterms:Standard? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-199 -- Is dqv:QualityPolicy a subclass of dcterms:Standard? -- open

13:55:29 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/199

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/199

13:55:39 <hadleybeeman> close issue-184

Hadley Beeman: close ISSUE-184

13:55:39 <trackbot> Closed issue-184.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-184.

13:55:44 <phila> So I'd say that 184 can be closed and handed to 199

Phil Archer: So I'd say that 184 can be closed and handed to 199

13:56:18 <annette_g> antoine: I was the one who raised this

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Antoine Isaac: I was the one who raised this

13:56:19 <phila> action-201?

Phil Archer: ACTION-201?

13:56:19 <trackbot> action-201 -- Antoine Isaac to Add note to dqv document seeking examples from external reviewers -- due 2015-10-01 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-201 -- Antoine Isaac to Add note to dqv document seeking examples from external reviewers -- due 2015-10-01 -- OPEN

13:56:19 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/201

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13:56:33 <antoine> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Sep/0093.html

Antoine Isaac: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Sep/0093.html

13:56:46 <hadleybeeman> closer action-201

Hadley Beeman: closer ACTION-201

13:56:49 <annette_g> antoine: that was an action on me, I sent an email to the list.

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Antoine Isaac: that was an action on me, I sent an email to the list.

13:56:51 <hadleybeeman> close action-201

Hadley Beeman: close ACTION-201

13:56:51 <trackbot> Closed action-201.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-201.

13:57:15 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/201

Antoine Isaac: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/201

13:57:44 <annette_g> antoine: new editorial issue Riccardo has raised about using instances of OA:motivation

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Antoine Isaac: new editorial issue Riccardo has raised about using instances of OA:motivation

13:58:06 <hadleybeeman> issue-201?

Hadley Beeman: ISSUE-201?

13:58:06 <trackbot> issue-201 -- Should we exploit predefined instances of oa:Motivation to further characterize the UserQualityFeedback purposes? -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-201 -- Should we exploit predefined instances of oa:Motivation to further characterize the UserQualityFeedback purposes? -- raised

13:58:06 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/201

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13:58:12 <annette_g> antoine: the action is currently only raised as an issue.

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Antoine Isaac: the action is currently only raised as an issue.

13:58:41 <annette_g> antoine: riccardoAlbertoni has put some text asking feedback from readers.

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Antoine Isaac: riccardoAlbertoni has put some text asking feedback from readers.

13:59:06 <antoine> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0146.html

Antoine Isaac: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0146.html

13:59:07 <annette_g> antoine:  we need to come back to it with whatever feedback we receive

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Antoine Isaac: we need to come back to it with whatever feedback we receive

14:00:08 <antoine> Relation between DQV, ISO 19115/19157 and GeoDCAT-AP

Antoine Isaac: Relation between DQV, ISO 19115/19157 and GeoDCAT-AP

14:00:08 <annette_g> antoine:  ISO and DQV, I'd like to not loose track of these things

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Antoine Isaac: ISO and DQV, I'd like to not loose track of these things

14:00:19 <hadleybeeman> issue: relation between DQV, ISO 19115/19157 and GeoDCAT-AP

ISSUE: relation between DQV, ISO 19115/19157 and GeoDCAT-AP

14:00:19 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-202 - Relation between dqv, iso 19115/19157 and geodcat-ap.  Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/202/edit>.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ISSUE-202 - Relation between dqv, iso 19115/19157 and geodcat-ap. Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/202/edit>.

14:00:57 <annette_g> antoine:  there was a lot of discussion on this, but we are out of time now.

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Antoine Isaac: there was a lot of discussion on this, but we are out of time now.

14:01:14 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  puts the email into the issue

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Hadley Beeman: puts the email into the issue

14:01:20 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: \a\n

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Hadley Beeman: \a\n

14:01:21 <annette_g> y

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y

14:01:27 <annette_g> any other comments?

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any other comments?

14:01:34 <annette_g> silence reigns

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silence reigns

14:01:41 <phila> Regrets for next Friday (moving house)

Phil Archer: Regrets for next Friday (moving house)

14:01:50 <annette_g> hadleybeeman: reviews next week's agenda

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Hadley Beeman: reviews next week's agenda

14:02:00 <phila> I'll try and have something to offer on the Erik W issues for next week

Phil Archer: I'll try and have something to offer on the Erik W issues for next week

14:02:19 <antoine> q+

Antoine Isaac: q+

14:02:24 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  if people want to suggest agenda items, feel free

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Hadley Beeman: if people want to suggest agenda items, feel free

14:02:26 <Caroline_> q+

Caroline Burle: q+

14:02:53 <annette_g> antoine: can you take care of carrying on nandana and phila's items?

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Antoine Isaac: can you take care of carrying on nandana and fadi's items?

14:02:56 <annette_g> hadleybeeman:  yep

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Hadley Beeman: yep

14:02:58 <hadleybeeman> ack antoine

Hadley Beeman: ack antoine

14:03:20 <annette_g> Caroline_:  let's keep talking about issues on email. editors will try to prioritize.

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Caroline Burle: let's keep talking about issues on email. editors will try to prioritize.

14:03:24 <MTCarrasco> bye

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: bye

14:03:29 <riccardoAlbertoni>  have a good weekend!

Riccardo Albertoni: have a good weekend!

14:03:29 <laufer> bye all...  nice to see you...

Carlos Laufer: bye all... nice to see you...

14:03:32 <annette_g> bye all!

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bye all!

14:03:38 <Caroline_> bye! Thank you!!

Caroline Burle: bye! Thank you!!

14:03:40 <antoine> s/phila/fadi
14:09:04 <phila> RRSAgent, make logs public

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Phil Archer: RRSAgent, make logs public

14:09:12 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes

Phil Archer: RRSAgent, draft minutes

14:09:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/10/09-dwbp-minutes.html phila

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2015/10/09-dwbp-minutes.html phila



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